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It could be worse - you could be a politician!

Posted By: Zville MT on 2009-02-14
In Reply to: Someone help me quick, I think I am turning Republican!!!!.......psm - Cyndiee

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Are you a politician?
cuz that nonsense you just typed sounds like something ignorant a politician would say. 
Politician comments

This is one thread I can't help posting to.  First, I want to say that I absolutely hate the new p.c. term "clearly."  Clearly this, clearly that from news anchors, talk show hosts, you name it.


As for the comment by Michelle Obama, if she is proud of her country "for the first time" then she's running a little late in my opinion.  I've been a Democrat all my life but no more.  The color of the candidate's skin has nothing whatsoever to do with anything, I don't care if he is pea green with orange stripes.  Obama scares the bejeezers out of me!!  Read about him and listen to him and learn.  I'll not be voting for him.  I would not have voted for Hillary.  Why?  Doesn't matter if she's a woman or not.  I have no respect for her.  I certainly don't admire her for standing by her man.


As for McCain, his stupid comment I think speaks for itself and doesn't show a lot of intelligence.  Secondly, he is too old.  While I admire his military service, I think if we like the condition of our country now, we'll enjoy more of the same and worse under his leadership.


Listen to both politicians.  They both want to give amnesty to illegal aliens and I am dead set against it.  Reagan (and I'm no fan of his either) tried that and now we have at least twice as many to deal with as we did then.  It is purely political, get the votes whereever they can. 


Then there's the matter of our country being sold off to foreign investors one piece at a time and the huge national debt to China.  What happens when they call in their mortgage?  Will they demand, California, Texas and maybe Alaska or will they just take over the whole danged country?


As for voting in this election?????  I probably will  just stay home for the first time since I've been old enough to vote.  We don't even have a candidate to vote for that is the lesser of the evils in my opinion.  I think the last good leader we had was Harry Truman, "walk softly and carry a big stick."


me too -- being VP doesn't take a politician,
it requires a person with judgment, intelligence, ethics, knowledge about many things, decision-making ability, courage, fortitude, a core morality, etc. She has all these, plus many first-hand experiences and management skills that will help her relate to the ordinary person/person's plight. Yes, many of us have these qualities, at least in part, but she seems to have a double-dose and also the ability to generate excitement and enthusiasm, and is articulate as well. and SHE has been brought into this position based upon her achievements and abilities, unlike you or I, for whatever reasons. She is far from 'just another woman' candidate. I like her a lot. Of course, time will tell as we progress through the election process, but i am fully expecting her to knock Biden's socks off in a debate. I think many of you nay-sayers ought to take another good hard look and see, just see if this McCain/Palin ticket isn't the REAL ticket for change in Washington -- 2 people who in their own right have bucked the system in favor of doing what they see as fit for the people they serve. It's definitely not our ordinary ticket, while Obama has shown himself to be just another politican who has never politically gone against his party or status quo, and changes his tune with the wind of opinion...
Then you need to put every politician in the same boat
They all have said conflicting things. Every one of them on both sides. Again that's why I say she has done nothing. But maybe I should have said she has done nothing that the other candidates haven't done.
Every politician should be required...
To take one year of American history and one year of world history before ever being allowed to run for any kind of public office. Then maybe they wouldn't keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again.
I am not happy with any politician

who misuses taxpayer dollars whether it is for sex or whatever the reason may be.  I personally feel that our government is trying to tax us to death while they continue to do nothing but spend and, IMO, that is misusing taxpayer dollars as well. 


If Ensign misused taxpayer dollars....nail him.  If Sanford did....nail him.  You seem willing to give Clinton a free pass just because he didn't penetrate Lewinsky with his own pecker.  Nevermind that he lied under oath.  As for Edwards, his wife was supposed to have been dying from cancer when he diddled another woman.  That is his own personal business but you can't get much lower than that. 


When it comes to pubs with some of you people, they can't sneeze wrong without some of you guys picking them apart.  You went after Palin because her daughter had premarital sex and got knocked up.  I'm sure none of you had sex before marriage either, huh?  Here we have President Obama breaking campaign promise after campaign promise and all you can say in defense is that we are getting our news only from Fox News or you instantly assume we are pubs.  Not all of us are pubs and many of us get our news from many news sources and not just Fox. 


Funny how Barney Frank can screw us over with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and hire a guy he was getting sexual favors from (could be the reason why Frank refuses to get dentures) and that was all fine and he still (for some God awful reason) holds the position that he has.


You will never find a politician that does not "misspeak."
For what is worth, this seemed to be more of a "family story" that he probably heard as a kid.
jealous of a politician? that's funny
a political choice rather than her being chosen on her own merits. She's only the VP b/c she has a vajay jay...
He would make a good politician.
He's flip-flopping already!!!
Well, I don't trust any politician anymore
It seems they're only out to rip us off. As soon as I heard of this "buying" votes, the idea of the O  coming so quick from nothing to president elect and was from Illinois gave me the idea that he bought his seat. I've been watching the news and maybe that's what they do in Illinois without realizing it's wrong. After all, there have been so many politicians from there that have been indicted for political crimes, I'm thinking that it's a natural way of doing "business" there. Even the governor  doesn't think he did anything wrong. Are they a different country and we don't know it?
Hey just me....I agree with you both....and one decent politician....sm
that I can name appears to be Bobby Jindal, republican governor of Louisiana.


What I find so interesting, is that there are lists and lists of corrupt Republican politicians and they are always run out on a rail, even when sometimes the corruption is made up, and yet the stigma remains, and they still resign.... and yet you are very hard to put to find a democrat corruption list.

Why?

Probably because when a democrat is corrupt, they usually stay in office, and no one prosecutes them, and they think they've done no wrong, even when it's the same thing that their rep counterparts have done. At least Louisiana has finally outsted Wm Jefferson, the dem with thousands of dollars in his freezer. Then there's the guy who had a relationship with his male page, another dem, can't remember his name. There are few other dems that have come to justice and have resigned, but the rest of them remain in office, business as usual.

It's too bad that any corrupt politician, republican or democrat or independent, seem to think they're above the law...until they're caught at it.....and even then, as I said, the dems, with the liberal media being enablers, tend to side step any wrong doing.

I wish sam was around. She could name them off in her sleep. My husband can also name them off, but I get so disgusted I stop listening. If the rest of the country doesn't care that their politicians are corrupt, and keep electing them, what can you do?

Here's a couple lists I found, but that's all I could find on a quick search, and they are from 2006 and 2007. Notice the dems on the lists....

http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2007

http://www.judicialwatch.org/6091.shtml





Sounds like the perfect politician to me -- too bad

So right you are. All a politician has to say is check in the mail...
and the voters line up behind them, while those who put their life on the line everyday for us get short shrift. Let O give all those homeless a check, maybe then I won't see so many of them with their ridiculous signs on the street corners any more. Meanwhile, DH and I will get taxed more for our hard work. Again I say, what a country!
What a concept, a politician who come to the Senate.....sm
with tons of experience in screwing people....and is not ashamed to record it!! I say she is uniquely qualified for the politics! IMHO
Another Politician Doesn't Pay Taxes.......

Top 5 Reasons it Sucks to Be Sarah Palin



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Over the past week, a fresh new trove of Sarah Palin stories has been offered up to the American people, making plain, once again, that meteoric fame often comes with a hefty pricetag. In the five months since she was plucked from relative obscurity to become John McCain's running mate, Palin has resided on the very sharp blade of a double-edged sword. With her pit bull campaign role, delivering the harshest lines of attack against Barack Obama, Palin quickly became a woman that you loved, or loved to hate. Well, that hasn't changed. But a few recent developments, as magnified by the ever-present media magnifying glass, are making Palin's glass feel a little more half-empty.

1. Back taxes. From the Anchorage Daily News, comes word that Sarah Palin must pay back income taxes on upwards of $17,000 in per diem expenses (meals, lodging, etc.) that she charged to the state of Alaska while living in her own Wasilla home. No exact word on how much the Governor will have to fork over. On the bright side, the ADN article goes on to say that it seems like nobody in Alaska politics, Democrats included, really pays their taxes properly (following a national trend).

2. New enemies. The Washington Post details Palin's awkward reunion with state legislators:


A number of factors seem to have contributed to the bumpy homecoming: a residual anger among Democrats for the attack-dog role Palin assumed in the McCain campaign, lingering resentment from Republicans for the part she may have played in McCain's defeat and a suspicion crossing party lines that the concerns of Alaska, at a time of economic crisis, will now be secondary to her future in national politics.


3. Lack of privacy. Just as Hollywood movie stars, while giving interviews, often complain that they have no privacy, so too must the Palin family grapple with the simultaneous lure and repulsion of flashing cameras. This week, Bristol Palin decided she wanted to relay lots of personal details to Greta van Susteren about the birth of her son, and her feelings on how sexual abstinence is not "realistic" for teenagers. And the governor herself, interviewed by People magazine and in a new biography disclosed that she'd hid the news that she was pregnant with her son Trig from her own family until the final weeks before his birth. (Tommy has more).

4. Stimulus. She hates the stimulus bill, and will build new roads to prove it. Before President Obama signed the stimulus bill into law, Palin declared that he should veto it. Why? It contained too much wasteful spending. Well, that seems like an odd criticism given that Palin is now proposing to build a road to Nome that will cost an estimated $4 million per mile.

5. Ashley Judd and Planned Parenthood. Governor Palin is a potent symbol, and, like Hillary Clinton before her, she has become a sure fire way to raise money and attention for groups or individuals who staunchly disagree with her views. Consider the attention she has brought to the practice of aerial hunting, and the cash she continues to raise for Planned Parenthood.


I would take Bush any day over this fake politician.
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Not as scary as a career politician with ties...
to all kinds of questionable characters, who has zero executive experience, showed up to vote present the majority of the time therefore not having to make a decision...can't vote present in the oval office. She has more experience than he does...fact is fact. And she is not running for pres...HE is. He is in the chair day one. SCARY indeed.
Oprah calls O "The One". The man is a politician,
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Rahm Emanual: Pit Bull Politician

From Fortune, CNN Money.


http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/06/news/newsmakers/emanuel_easton.fortune/?postversion=2008110613


Son of a terrorist link below


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel


Corporate greed, politician back-scratching,

This is even WORSE!

You obviously can't come up with anything other than the religious right's OPINION of Phil Donahue.  I won't waste my time reading any more of your so-called *proof.* 


Believe it or not, just because you IMAGINE something to be true doesn't make it so.


This is how they know Phil Donahue and others on their hit list are athiests (copied from their site):


Most of the time, you can tell what a person believes by their lifestyle and the words that come from their mouth. An atheist has a hard time believing in anything other than his/her own reason. Reason is something that was given to man to be able to deduce solutions to problems. It is also able to make us feel like gods when we place more value on our own knowledge than what is told in the Bible.

There is hope for atheists, for God is drawing all people to Christ. Will they listen? Every atheist who has died now knows the truth and is no longer an atheists; famous or otherwise.


And this would be worse than
a president that thinks God choose him to be president to facilitate Armageddon?
we have put up with worse, think
kennedy family. In fact, there is a lot they never told us in school about almost all of them. I don't know the whole story on mccain, but I do know he is the only one running with any sense of military. Obama says he will consult with his wife and grandmother, McCain says the generals. as far as addiction, they are very clever at hiding things from their families. I have known several through the years with alcohol problems, same thing. Betty Ford Clinic. How come nobody cares about sporting figures or hollywood stars or singers? and yes, some of them do end up in politics before you go there. The truth is, the whole world is jaded and traditional values don't mean anything anymore, or at least it seems that way. I want to see a politician I CAN trust, who can take the hard road when he has to, and I think he will have to. I also take note of the fact that no democracy has much staying power after the morales have gone, when debauchery is the norm, and everybody grows tolerant, then you will soon see a lost nation.
Nothing worse than......
being blackmailed by someone to get our votes.........
which is worse . . . .
being called bitter or being called a redneck?
which is worse? .....sm
....the person doing the name calling.



None of it sticks, because it isn't true, and just reflects back on the poor judgment and character of those trying their darnest to be upsetting.


Worse
I heard last night that many of the forclosures are on loans made to illegal aliens because our government passed a law that something or other, I wasn't aware before, that had to give so many loans to them.  So I say again, what I've said all along, our government allowing unbridled illegal immigration was going to, and now has bankrupted us.  They take free medical care, free education, ALL the freebies and still want more.  RIDICULOUS!!!!
Well, I for one don't know anyone who is worse off now than
4 or 5 years ago. Sure, we have taken a hit in the market, but the market always comes back, and that isn't our main source of investment anyway. In our circle of friends, who make between 75K to 500K a year, we don't know anyone who has not been able to make a house payment, CC payment, can't afford to send their kids to college, etc. Speaking for DH and I, we have never been late on any payment, never had an NSF, never over spent our CC limit. Not everyone is in dire financial straits. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who are in our situation who have planned for the future instead of living for today only. It is not uncommon or unheard of for people to be living within their means. I guess O considers us rich at 250K a year; wait until he decides that he needs to lower that figure to get the money he will need for all his "social programs" he wants to institute.
Joy is worse!
Joy is arrogant and nasty. Barbara Walters is getting pretty bad too. It may be because I agree with Elizabeth most of the time that I like her, but I cannot even stand the sound of Joy's voice, and those lovely faces she makes are great! I like Sherry, even though I usually don't agree with what she says.
No. Will most likely be much worse now with all
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I'm the same - its getting worse and worse
Purposely hiding his relationships? The first thing I thought of was treason.
It's even worse than that!
They don't vote themselves a raise - it's automatically built in so that someone has to introduce legislation and then have enough backers to stop the raise! That hasn't happened in eight years! Wouldn't you just love to have a $4,700 raise come January? I'd be happy with just half of that, considering I haven't had a raise in, well, ever!!!

Here's what I don't understand - why is it that we elect these people, basically hiring them, to work for us. Every time an election rolls around, all the policitians can talk about is how they work for us. Why is it that when one of them screws up, like Blago for instance, we, the employers of these people, can't fire them? Why is it that the government then has to get involved to "impeach" them, even as they sit in office and continue signing bills into legislature? We should be able to sign a petition basically firing that politician and kicking him/her out to the curb, right then and there. I know that then creates the position that there is no one filling that job - so the idea still needs some work, but I just don't understand why we have the "power" to employ someone, but not the power to get rid of them when they're not doing their job. You and I can't get away with that!

I saw the thing about the furniture being thrown out as well and yes, that just burned me up. Why couldn't they have donated that furniture to a homeless shelter or a Salvation Army? And why is it that when new senators and reps come in, they get to change their whole office - even paint! I liked the idea that another poster had about keeping all the politicians in their own states, a little closer to home, so they could see how their decisions affect the people who employ them.

I think I need to take a break from this board - I'm gonna get carpal tunnel from here, not from working! LOL!!!
I don't think it's any worse than..(sm)
most other commercials out there.  It's a proven fact that sex sells.  As far as healthy relationships, I would much rather my daughter have a healthy *relationship* with broccoli than something that comes with the risks of disease and pregnancy....ROFL.....LONG LIVE THE VEGGIES...
I would say that's no worse than...(sm)
than the famous AMA and Reagan's venture call the HMO.
How do you know it is worse? We should do nothing?
let the market take care of itself? We are living that way of thinking right now.
It will only get worse...
But goodness will always prevail. Nothing good about same-sex sexual relationships.
You mean it could get worse?
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This is worse than sad. This is delusional.
It's the anti-American pathos of the left that leads to brain rot.  I've seen it happen before. First they start calling everyone a liar, then they say they are hateful, then comes the Christian bashing and labeling.  Next, brain fluid will start to leak onto the keyboard, but they won't notice because their mind is gone, I tell you, GONE.
It's no worse than what has been done on our board. sm
We just don't whine about it.
Sorry, the link looks worse than it is.
 Just right click the square box and open link. Sorry.
and will get worse if Obama and big gov't take over.
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Biden is much worse. I think the guy has
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And even worse, 2 heartbeats away...
God forbid, Nancy Pelosi.
I have certainly been called worse.
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I hope so too, but just when you think it can't get any worse
It is disgusting to see that the poster who replied to the ugly post above actually thinks that frail, elderly, living, breathing Americans who take their citizenship seriously enough to barely make it to the early polls and back home again should be DISREGARDED if they die. What is that? With any luck, they both are sterile.
Did you ever think things could get worse in this
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You are in an even worse position than I am...
at least my mortgage is a fixed rate mortgage with a reasonable interest rate - not as low as what is being offered to those who are defaulting, but not too bad in the grand scheme of things. So--good luck to you!!!
Could be worse. There is talk that...
California is actually going to give IOUs to state employees instead of paychecks. Now, that is rough! But you can bet that if the state employee owes taxes this year, they will not be permitted to send one in.
Yes, I truly think we will get a worse deal...

...with universal healthcare than we have now.  If you want to screw something up royally, give it to the gummint to run. 


Good lord!  Look at Canada or the UK, who have socialized medicine.  You go into a Canadian clinic.  It's a walk-in system. They don't make appointments.  You take a number, which is 51.  Number fifty is called.  Then it's quitting time.  You get sent home to come back another day and try your luck again.  Need an MRI?  Take a number.  We'lll call you in 4-6 months - or you could go to the US for it.  Need bypass surgery?  We'll see about that.   


It will become a triage system:  You, sir, are 60 years old and overweight.  Your cholesterol is too high.  Why should we waste our precious resources on you when younger and more viable specimens are stacking up outside?  No, you may not have an angioplasty - at least not this decade.  NEXT! 


Socialized medicine is a pretty good deal if you're young and don't need a lot of services - not so very good when you reach an age when you actually do need them.


 


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OH NO!!!! He's much worse than a socialist....
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Well you know if there is a worse outcome
from this, the O lovers will never admit that the messiah had anything to do with it. Then it will be all the Navy Seals fault. They will throw the seals under the bus while they continue to praise their lord.