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Every politician should be required...

Posted By: Zville MT on 2009-02-14
In Reply to: Apparently, the Chinese are upset with us. sm - LVMT

To take one year of American history and one year of world history before ever being allowed to run for any kind of public office. Then maybe they wouldn't keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again.


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look up def of required
The last time I knew "required" meant mandatory.  And that WAS right off of is website, that is until people, that are not cloudy over O, started complaining about the "required" word and they changed it.  But he is trying to get away with it.  Talk to me in a year and tell me how you feel then.  If I am wrong, I will admit it.  Will you?
I didn't know anyone was required to
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No one should ever be required to say a pledge to anyone or anything.
Pledges are personal choices. Being forced to recite one is the opposite of freedom.
Every child in every classroom has the right to refuse to pledge.
required to hate??
What Christian religion is that - mine sure does not require me to hate. Mine teaches me to love. And yes, it is quite possible to hate the sin and love the sinner. That is what God does every day. Ask anyone who has ever loved a drug addict, an abuser, someone who lied, someone who shoplifted something, etc., etc., etc. You can hate their behavior but still love the person. And of course it is judging to say something is disgusting. that is your opinion, not everyone else's. Thus, it is a judgment, not a fact. Have you yourself never sinned in any way? Did you expect people to them hate you because they may have hated what you did? Of are you above everyone else?
Gonzales not required to take oath??
That just beats all. Why even have him testify if he is not required to tell the truth UNDER OATH? Not too hard to figure out where this is all coming from - reminds one of the way Bush visited with the 9/11 commission but refused to be put under oath.

The question is, and always has been - why is this administration so terrified of telling the truth?

The word is that Rove is threatening to withdraw all Republican funding and support from any Republican senator or representative who fails to fall in line with the administration's ambition of unbridled above-the-law autonomy. If they so much as make a peep about protecting the Constitution rather than dear leader, they're dead in the water. It's kind of pathetic watching them all sweat and stutter and grovel, heh - might even be entertaining if it wasn't such an important issue.

No effort required. Just one finger.
(And that would be the middle one, of course.)
Why not? The basic minimum that should be required. nm
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Whistleblowers on this were required to monitor
their spouses, for starters, and also conversations of Doctors without Borders and Red Cross personnel (aid workers). The conversations were recorded. Legally speaking, this falls under the category of search and seizure and requires a warrant showing just cause. If that sounds familiar, it should, since right to privacy and protections against unreasonable search and seizure are encoded in the Constitution. There are a number of privacy issues that come into play available to illustrate what a slimey, slippery slope this can be. Suffice to say that what we have here is a government agency behaving as voyeurs, abusing their power, thumbing their noses at the law and violating the constitutional rights of Americans serving our country. I am grappling for an explanation that justifies such offensive behavior. Eqally as disturbing is the notion that that some Americas with entrenched post-911 Patriot Act mentality accept this as status quo.
If they wear red, white and blue, they are not REQUIRED to
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FYI. Joe the unlicensed required to be licensed in Ohio.
Joe the unlicensed's 15 minutes has raised the ire of Tom Joseph, business manager for Local 50 of the United Association of Plumbers, Steamfitters, and Service Mechanics of Ohio, who claimed that Joe didn’t undergo any apprenticeship training. "When you have guys going out there with no training whatsoever, it’s a little disreputable to start with," Mr. Joseph said. "We’re the real Joe the Plumber." "This individual has got no schooling, no licenses, he’s never been to a training program, union or nonunion, in the United States of America," Mr. Joseph said. Working for a licensed plumber does not quite cut it.

Wondering if your husband has read Obama's plan for small business, for example the Making Work Pay tax credit (not a rate cut, a direct tax credit)? There is a lot of information there under issues and subheading economics. There is a section there on small business. Not a good idea to buy into the spreading the wealth mantra without that information.

The exposure of Joe the Plumber as a sham makes one raise the question of his autheticity and the possibility of his being a McCain campaign plant at that rally. The bigger picture on this is that Joe himself is being exploited by McCain's campaign (currently not something he is enjoying, having lost his privacy) in their assertions that they will look after the interests of the working class. Flies in the face of the fact that McCain himself has not even spoken the phrase middle class out of his own mouth. The "welfare" rhetoric characterizing spread the wealth as socialism sounds a bit hostile toward the middle class...the economic class of most small business owners he claims to be so concerned about.
REQUIRED IN ORDER TO GET THE COLLEGE CREDIT! NM
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When originally posted on the web site, it said it was required ..
I have seen the images before and after ...

you can bet my kid will do it if there is a tax credit ...

but hey -- guess what? He does stuff anyway without being forced or bribed ...
required and mandatory if you want the $4000 for college - nm
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Are you a politician?
cuz that nonsense you just typed sounds like something ignorant a politician would say. 
Politician comments

This is one thread I can't help posting to.  First, I want to say that I absolutely hate the new p.c. term "clearly."  Clearly this, clearly that from news anchors, talk show hosts, you name it.


As for the comment by Michelle Obama, if she is proud of her country "for the first time" then she's running a little late in my opinion.  I've been a Democrat all my life but no more.  The color of the candidate's skin has nothing whatsoever to do with anything, I don't care if he is pea green with orange stripes.  Obama scares the bejeezers out of me!!  Read about him and listen to him and learn.  I'll not be voting for him.  I would not have voted for Hillary.  Why?  Doesn't matter if she's a woman or not.  I have no respect for her.  I certainly don't admire her for standing by her man.


As for McCain, his stupid comment I think speaks for itself and doesn't show a lot of intelligence.  Secondly, he is too old.  While I admire his military service, I think if we like the condition of our country now, we'll enjoy more of the same and worse under his leadership.


Listen to both politicians.  They both want to give amnesty to illegal aliens and I am dead set against it.  Reagan (and I'm no fan of his either) tried that and now we have at least twice as many to deal with as we did then.  It is purely political, get the votes whereever they can. 


Then there's the matter of our country being sold off to foreign investors one piece at a time and the huge national debt to China.  What happens when they call in their mortgage?  Will they demand, California, Texas and maybe Alaska or will they just take over the whole danged country?


As for voting in this election?????  I probably will  just stay home for the first time since I've been old enough to vote.  We don't even have a candidate to vote for that is the lesser of the evils in my opinion.  I think the last good leader we had was Harry Truman, "walk softly and carry a big stick."


me too -- being VP doesn't take a politician,
it requires a person with judgment, intelligence, ethics, knowledge about many things, decision-making ability, courage, fortitude, a core morality, etc. She has all these, plus many first-hand experiences and management skills that will help her relate to the ordinary person/person's plight. Yes, many of us have these qualities, at least in part, but she seems to have a double-dose and also the ability to generate excitement and enthusiasm, and is articulate as well. and SHE has been brought into this position based upon her achievements and abilities, unlike you or I, for whatever reasons. She is far from 'just another woman' candidate. I like her a lot. Of course, time will tell as we progress through the election process, but i am fully expecting her to knock Biden's socks off in a debate. I think many of you nay-sayers ought to take another good hard look and see, just see if this McCain/Palin ticket isn't the REAL ticket for change in Washington -- 2 people who in their own right have bucked the system in favor of doing what they see as fit for the people they serve. It's definitely not our ordinary ticket, while Obama has shown himself to be just another politican who has never politically gone against his party or status quo, and changes his tune with the wind of opinion...
Then you need to put every politician in the same boat
They all have said conflicting things. Every one of them on both sides. Again that's why I say she has done nothing. But maybe I should have said she has done nothing that the other candidates haven't done.
It could be worse - you could be a politician!
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I am not happy with any politician

who misuses taxpayer dollars whether it is for sex or whatever the reason may be.  I personally feel that our government is trying to tax us to death while they continue to do nothing but spend and, IMO, that is misusing taxpayer dollars as well. 


If Ensign misused taxpayer dollars....nail him.  If Sanford did....nail him.  You seem willing to give Clinton a free pass just because he didn't penetrate Lewinsky with his own pecker.  Nevermind that he lied under oath.  As for Edwards, his wife was supposed to have been dying from cancer when he diddled another woman.  That is his own personal business but you can't get much lower than that. 


When it comes to pubs with some of you people, they can't sneeze wrong without some of you guys picking them apart.  You went after Palin because her daughter had premarital sex and got knocked up.  I'm sure none of you had sex before marriage either, huh?  Here we have President Obama breaking campaign promise after campaign promise and all you can say in defense is that we are getting our news only from Fox News or you instantly assume we are pubs.  Not all of us are pubs and many of us get our news from many news sources and not just Fox. 


Funny how Barney Frank can screw us over with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and hire a guy he was getting sexual favors from (could be the reason why Frank refuses to get dentures) and that was all fine and he still (for some God awful reason) holds the position that he has.


You will never find a politician that does not "misspeak."
For what is worth, this seemed to be more of a "family story" that he probably heard as a kid.
jealous of a politician? that's funny
a political choice rather than her being chosen on her own merits. She's only the VP b/c she has a vajay jay...
He would make a good politician.
He's flip-flopping already!!!
Well, I don't trust any politician anymore
It seems they're only out to rip us off. As soon as I heard of this "buying" votes, the idea of the O  coming so quick from nothing to president elect and was from Illinois gave me the idea that he bought his seat. I've been watching the news and maybe that's what they do in Illinois without realizing it's wrong. After all, there have been so many politicians from there that have been indicted for political crimes, I'm thinking that it's a natural way of doing "business" there. Even the governor  doesn't think he did anything wrong. Are they a different country and we don't know it?
Hey just me....I agree with you both....and one decent politician....sm
that I can name appears to be Bobby Jindal, republican governor of Louisiana.


What I find so interesting, is that there are lists and lists of corrupt Republican politicians and they are always run out on a rail, even when sometimes the corruption is made up, and yet the stigma remains, and they still resign.... and yet you are very hard to put to find a democrat corruption list.

Why?

Probably because when a democrat is corrupt, they usually stay in office, and no one prosecutes them, and they think they've done no wrong, even when it's the same thing that their rep counterparts have done. At least Louisiana has finally outsted Wm Jefferson, the dem with thousands of dollars in his freezer. Then there's the guy who had a relationship with his male page, another dem, can't remember his name. There are few other dems that have come to justice and have resigned, but the rest of them remain in office, business as usual.

It's too bad that any corrupt politician, republican or democrat or independent, seem to think they're above the law...until they're caught at it.....and even then, as I said, the dems, with the liberal media being enablers, tend to side step any wrong doing.

I wish sam was around. She could name them off in her sleep. My husband can also name them off, but I get so disgusted I stop listening. If the rest of the country doesn't care that their politicians are corrupt, and keep electing them, what can you do?

Here's a couple lists I found, but that's all I could find on a quick search, and they are from 2006 and 2007. Notice the dems on the lists....

http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2007

http://www.judicialwatch.org/6091.shtml





Sounds like the perfect politician to me -- too bad

So right you are. All a politician has to say is check in the mail...
and the voters line up behind them, while those who put their life on the line everyday for us get short shrift. Let O give all those homeless a check, maybe then I won't see so many of them with their ridiculous signs on the street corners any more. Meanwhile, DH and I will get taxed more for our hard work. Again I say, what a country!
What a concept, a politician who come to the Senate.....sm
with tons of experience in screwing people....and is not ashamed to record it!! I say she is uniquely qualified for the politics! IMHO
Another Politician Doesn't Pay Taxes.......

Top 5 Reasons it Sucks to Be Sarah Palin



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Over the past week, a fresh new trove of Sarah Palin stories has been offered up to the American people, making plain, once again, that meteoric fame often comes with a hefty pricetag. In the five months since she was plucked from relative obscurity to become John McCain's running mate, Palin has resided on the very sharp blade of a double-edged sword. With her pit bull campaign role, delivering the harshest lines of attack against Barack Obama, Palin quickly became a woman that you loved, or loved to hate. Well, that hasn't changed. But a few recent developments, as magnified by the ever-present media magnifying glass, are making Palin's glass feel a little more half-empty.

1. Back taxes. From the Anchorage Daily News, comes word that Sarah Palin must pay back income taxes on upwards of $17,000 in per diem expenses (meals, lodging, etc.) that she charged to the state of Alaska while living in her own Wasilla home. No exact word on how much the Governor will have to fork over. On the bright side, the ADN article goes on to say that it seems like nobody in Alaska politics, Democrats included, really pays their taxes properly (following a national trend).

2. New enemies. The Washington Post details Palin's awkward reunion with state legislators:


A number of factors seem to have contributed to the bumpy homecoming: a residual anger among Democrats for the attack-dog role Palin assumed in the McCain campaign, lingering resentment from Republicans for the part she may have played in McCain's defeat and a suspicion crossing party lines that the concerns of Alaska, at a time of economic crisis, will now be secondary to her future in national politics.


3. Lack of privacy. Just as Hollywood movie stars, while giving interviews, often complain that they have no privacy, so too must the Palin family grapple with the simultaneous lure and repulsion of flashing cameras. This week, Bristol Palin decided she wanted to relay lots of personal details to Greta van Susteren about the birth of her son, and her feelings on how sexual abstinence is not "realistic" for teenagers. And the governor herself, interviewed by People magazine and in a new biography disclosed that she'd hid the news that she was pregnant with her son Trig from her own family until the final weeks before his birth. (Tommy has more).

4. Stimulus. She hates the stimulus bill, and will build new roads to prove it. Before President Obama signed the stimulus bill into law, Palin declared that he should veto it. Why? It contained too much wasteful spending. Well, that seems like an odd criticism given that Palin is now proposing to build a road to Nome that will cost an estimated $4 million per mile.

5. Ashley Judd and Planned Parenthood. Governor Palin is a potent symbol, and, like Hillary Clinton before her, she has become a sure fire way to raise money and attention for groups or individuals who staunchly disagree with her views. Consider the attention she has brought to the practice of aerial hunting, and the cash she continues to raise for Planned Parenthood.


I would take Bush any day over this fake politician.
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Not as scary as a career politician with ties...
to all kinds of questionable characters, who has zero executive experience, showed up to vote present the majority of the time therefore not having to make a decision...can't vote present in the oval office. She has more experience than he does...fact is fact. And she is not running for pres...HE is. He is in the chair day one. SCARY indeed.
Oprah calls O "The One". The man is a politician,
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Rahm Emanual: Pit Bull Politician

From Fortune, CNN Money.


http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/06/news/newsmakers/emanuel_easton.fortune/?postversion=2008110613


Son of a terrorist link below


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel


Corporate greed, politician back-scratching,