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Joe Biden

Posted By: Horski on 2008-09-13
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So why no conversation on Joe Biden?


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Joe Biden-Hunter Biden..so much for change

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/08/hunter-biden-joe-biden-anthony-lotito.php


Go Obama/Biden! I don't like it and will VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN!

Obama has shown great judgment in the people who surround him.  He picked a great VP choice, and his wife is impeccable as a helpmate and is a fantastic role model for the American children.   


Biden
I think it is a good choice. Biden's a decent guy and fills in the foreign policy gap that Obama has. I think it was a tough spot for Obama to find a VP. He picks someone like Biden who is experienced and has military/foreign policy behind him and he gets criticized for being establishment and not keeping with his "change" message. He picks an outsider change person and he gets criticized for having no experience or military/foreign policy behind him. He picks Hillary and half the Democrats love him for it and get energized, while the other half of Democrats are angry at him and let down, and ALL of the Republicans are happy and energized to support their candidate whom to this point most have had a hard time getting excited about. It will be very interesting to see if McCain picks Romney or not. I think it would help him in some ways and really hurt him in others. I'm looking forward to the VP debate - Biden against anyone! Sure to be fun.
You mean like when Biden said...
Obama wasn't qualified for the job and now he is? LIke that kind of talking about both sides of mouth??
More on Biden...
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2008/08/biden_familys_lobbyist_financi.html
did Biden just really say this
"reduce not just the interest but reduce the principle." Okay, so we worked out butts off for years to keep up with our mortgage on a house we could afford and they are going to basically going to give it to the people who didn't????? Why am I not in a Million dollar home that the government is going to give me 'cuz I can't pay for it?????
Thank you, Biden still out did her, tho...
and you would think with 36 yrs experience as a Senator he would know better, especially about the responsibilities of the VP.
Biden

I hope that anyone who hasn't seen this interview will click on the link and view it.  Biden answered each of her questions fully and completely.


I personally believe that Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert will have a field day with this one!  The questions reminded me of one of Colbert's "Better Know a District" segments. 


Biden
He was in Evansville, Indiana at 8:30 this morning.
Biden........
Biden has a lot of experience, especially in foreign policy, but as a speaker he is too impulsive and he seems to have a temper, sometimes.
But still a great choice as running mate for Obama.
Biden was right about this...
...VP Biden told CNN that former VP D*ck Cheney is "dead wrong" in denouncing the White House's national security policies.

"The last administration left us in a weaker posture than we've been any time since World War II: less regarded in the world, stretched more thinly than we ever have been in the past, two wars under way, virtually no respect in entire parts of the world."
Joe Biden knows what he is doing?
HA!  That is a laugh! 
That's Obama bin Biden
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what? said about biden by a white.
where do you get racism out of that?
My problem with Biden was
something I heard a few days ago about his being one of the first to tighten up on bankruptcy laws which might be fine except for the fact one son just out of law school just happened to be working for a credit card conglomerate.
Obama/Biden looking better and better.
I guess we're all human, but still.... 
if obama/biden

were for preemptive war, suspension of habeas corpus, torture, and no oversight of corporations resulting in Halliburton, Enron, and banking industry scandals, I would not consider voting for them, no matter how compelling their personal stories or charming they may be. That is why I vote democrat.


 


DO we want to examine Joe Biden's...
"the presidency does not lend itself to on-the-job training" to "Barack Obama is ready for the job." ? ALL politicians are going to have those "words out of their own mouths" contradicting "words out of their own mouths." It is the nature of the beast.
Biden prefaces his

remarks with his fondness for JMC as a person and honors his service.  He does NOT think his policies are right for the country.   Big difference.


 


Palin/Biden
I don't know, I heard Obama denounce bringing the kids into the politics and he seemed pretty forceful and pretty snarly himself.  My opinion is the kids ought to be off limits but when the candidates (both of them) trot them out, that takes the "hands off" out of play for me.  They can't have it both ways.  If they really care about the kids, leave them out of the spotlight TOTALLY.  Although I admit the little girl licking her hand and smoothing the baby's hair was pretty endearing..............BUT fairplay, don't show that and then say that it isn't fair to talk about the unwed daughter's pregnancy....so leave her off the camera, don't trot in the boyfriend to participate too.  Ridiculous!
Biden was right, but, of course, now he suddenly
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Biden Caught In A Lie

Biden caught in a lie





This really couldn’t have come at a worse time for Joe Biden. Speaking on Fox and Friends, Sen. Biden, the Democrat VP nominee denied reports from ABC news that if elected, he planned on pursuing criminal charges against the Bush Administration.



“That’s not true. I don’t know where that report’s coming from,” Biden told Fox & Friends.


Here you go Joe. See if this jogs your memory just a bit.



Poor old Joe. I expect the “Dump Biden” movement to pick up steam in the next few days.


h/t FreeRepublic


Biden and Clinton

Anyone else read the article where Biden says Hilary Clinton might have been a better choice as a VP than him?  How true.  Hilary doesn't scare me nearly as much as Obama does!


Joe Biden? LOL -the scariest of them all.
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Joe Biden and MBNA...
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDU4OTdhMTFhN2YwZTY3MmMzNGFhYzc3ODdhOTA0ZjQ=
Biden is good at saying what he

really means at times and then having to backtrack.  Just like what he said about Obama's experience until he was picked #2 and now Obama is experienced.  LOL.  Or how about when Biden criticized an ad the Obama campaign released stating,"I thought that was terrible by the way" and "if I'd have had anything to do with it, we never would have done it."  Now he is saying it is okay because McCain's campaign ads are just as bad and therefore McCain has no reason to complain about Obama's ads.  LOL! 


I seriously wonder what Obama was thinking when he picked Biden.  I bet they cringe every time he is interviewed.


Biden is much worse. I think the guy has
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Obama + Biden....sm
oreos with no milk....








less than nothing there
Who said I was for Biden -- I just don't happen to
trying to start an argument on this board.  I don't like the woman.  Do I have to like her to vote for McCain?  Some would say yes, since if elected she will probably be Pres in a year or 2 when McCain kills over.  She's probably the biggest turnoff to me in McCain's whole campaign.  Why couldn't he have picked someone else -- like Hillary?
Biden 's quote
Or, to quote JOE BIDEN:
"I think he CAN be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."

I do not agree with Biden's statement. It is not clear to me what motivated Biden to say this after Obama chose him as running mate.
And Biden said this some time ago.



but whoa, what about Biden
guaranteeing that we would have a "crisis" in the first 6 months of an Obama presidency -- as the enemy would definitely test him -- and as frosting on the cake, biden then saying, "it may not look like we will be handling it right", but "we will!" Good grief. If you care about the safety of Americans, you better vote McCain/Palin.
Just a guess, but I think that Biden because of ...sm
his position in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee may have already known about the news that came out today about AQ when he gave his opinion on this subject.
Biden will when he makes his run for
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Again, Biden handled EVERY

question asked of him.


Tell me WHICH question he didn't answer.


Oh, that's right.


You can't. 


Well, Biden is against abortion.

I think a woman should have a right to choose no matter what the circumstance.  And all of you saying you want to pay more taxes for these children born out of wedlock like Palin's daughter, then you're being hypocritical.  You either want to pay more for these programs or you don't. 


Just because someone wants to adopt a child doesn't mean they are good parents. 


FYI to poster in this thread; STDs do take lives.  AIDS kills.  If the doctor doesn't treat the patient and educate them on safety especially homosexuals, an STD will take a life. 


Where in the world is Biden?

All three are out campaining - Obama, McCain & Palin.  And they are campaining hard.  All 3 of them.  So where in the world is Biden and why is he not out campaigning?  The last I saw they had him stuck in a plane by himself somewhere probably on his way back to his mansion to keep his mouth shut.  Another person who is not out anymore is Richardson.  Haven't seen him since he slipped and let it known that Obama keeps lowering his idea of rich.


So c'mon, where are they hiden Biden?


Biden is even less qualified.......sm
the only thing he can say without screwing it up is "HI! I'm Joe Biden!!!"


You like Biden then? Gee! He constantly
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How do you know that is what Biden was talking about?
Even Obama didn't say that was what he was talking about.
Then again, how man of us really listen to Joe Biden??? .....sm
He may have great foreign policy experience and lots of years in the Senate, but this man, nice as he might be, has hoof and mouth disease. I hold my breath every time he opens his mouth, he spouts off all the time without thinking...dangerous!
I can just see Biden's answer...
"Hmm, let's give half the money to Delaware and the other half to Chicago!  Wow, that was easy!"
Joe Biden is a moron.
It still amazes me how people attacked Sarah Palin like they did and Joe Biden is a complete moron.  Talk about Joe getting a free pass while people literally tried to destroy Palin, her family, etc.  I'm surprised Obama is letting Joe talk to anyone really. 
Update for you regarding Biden.sm

U.S. Senator Joseph Biden, Jr.

United States Senate:
Six-term Sen. Joseph Biden, Jr. of Delaware was first elected to the U.S. Senate in 1972 when 29 years old, the youngest U.S. senator in modern history.
In January 2007, Biden declared his candidacy for the presidency, but dropped out of the race on January 3, 2008. On August 23, 2008, Barack
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Joe Biden

United States Senate:

Six-term Sen. Joseph Biden, Jr. of Delaware was first elected to the U.S. Senate in 1972 when 29 years old, the youngest U.S. senator in modern history.
In January 2007, Biden declared his candidacy for the presidency, but dropped out of the race on January 3, 2008. On August 23, 2008, Barack Obama named Biden to be his vice presidential running mate.

Biden, Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in the 110th Congress (2007-08), is a gifted negotiator who has helped shape U.S. security and foreign relations policies for decades. He's a moderate Democrat who often bridges the bipartisan gap.

I would hardly call this 'kissing butt' qualities.




Only if you want to say Obama Biden Laden
Which I don't know where the Laden comes in. I don't see the similarity unless you want to see it. You need to get Osama Bin Laden out of your minds and grasp reality. Barack Obama and Joe Biden are two great men in politics. Osama? He's been out of my mind ever since Benazir Bhutto said she knew who had killed Bin Laden (then she was assissinated).
Around here we call him Osama bin Biden
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this is in regards to Obama choosing biden for VP

it's not original but it is fitting.


this is in regards to Obama choosing biden for VP, Huckabee said


"it's like going to Baskin Robbins and picking vanilla" LOL


I love it. The man who supposedly is about change, doesn't select a VP that's anything different than any of the other demos out there.


My main problem with Biden now is that....
not only did he lie (whether during the primaries or now, take your pick), but when he threw his friend, John McCain, under the bus in such a hateful, public manner, for the sake of politics...any integrity I thought he might have had went right under the bus with McCain. He may say he is blue collar anddown to earth, but the blue collardown to earth people i know and were raised with DO NOT throw friends under the bus.

Frankly, I believe that Bill and Hill and Joe Biden too were tellng the truth during the primaries...Obama isn't ready to be President. What did Biden say..."The presidency doesn't lend itself to on-the-job training..." and the things Hillary said too numerous to mention. And now, all of a sudden, they do a complete 180 and he's the man for the job. Honestly, how can ANYone believe ANY of them? Obama threw Wright under the bus, Biden through McCain under the bus...no holds barred by golly. And the thing is...that this is the BIG one...all of his followers do believe it. Or they don't believe it and they don't care. I tend toward the first...because they are like adoring throngs chasing a rock star. Amazing.

I am just wondering what all our world leaders who have a so-called bad image of us, are going to think of the hollywood production number tonight? How will any of them be able to take him remotely seriously? How is he going to be able to sit down and have a conversation with Ahmadinejad or Medvedev? Is he going to take Biden to all his meetings? I am not trying to bash Obama...it is a legitimate concern.
So this is you NOT bashing Obama/Biden?
Joe Biden told the truth about his "old friend," John McWayne. He also has a right, if not a mandate from the party, to take issue with failed policies and to define exactly how a McCain coronation would be nothing more than 4 more years of the same old poop.
Whether or not their "friendship" survives the battleground of election politics not a burning concern. The nominee needs to be loyal to the cause of the party. Joe Biden most definitely is that. Once and for all, for some it's all about personal attack politics, but for most of us, it is about issues, issues, issues. BTW, the bus analogy is getting a bit tired by now. It's value was spent long ago during the Rev. Wright rampage.

That snipe about adoring throngs is typical Fox News reporting replay, designed to misconstrue, mislead and spin the reality of the moment. Fact is that Obama has attained celebrity status, not only among his supporters, but all over the globe (85% approval rating in France for example), because those "followers" recognize the charisma that arises out of such personal characteristics as sincerity, honesty, credibility, integrity, intelligence, determination to succeed against all odds, perseverance, courage, compassion, imagination and vision, to name a few. John McCain has about as much charisma as a weather-worn doormat. They also identify with the simplicity of his message of hope, dissatisfaction with the status quo and change.

On the question of inexperience. Let's put this in a little perspective. Obama: 4 years state-level Illinois senate, 4 years US Senator. To say he has "no experience" in foreign policy affairs would require overlooking the fact that those 4 years were war on terrorism years. He at least knows the ropes. In comparison let's begin with the 2 best examples of inexperienced presidents. These guys managed to leave behind them legacies as the most brilliant and inspired leaders in our nation's history. To further illustrate the point, there are a few more examples cited.
1. JFK: Despite 6 years in the Massachusetts House of Representatives and 7 years as a US senator, he was relentlessly dogged by his own party's elders for being the new kid on the block, based primarily on his youth. When placed in context, his credentials become fairly impressive, to say the least, considering he had achieved 13 years of experience by the age of 46 (one year younger than Obama), when he was sworn in as president. Like Obama, Kennedy's rising star was launched at age 40, when he became a first term US Senator who later entered the presidential race after an electrifying convention speech in 1956. The cronies did not take him very seriously at first. When challenged by his party's colleagues on this issue, he replied, “Experience,” he said, “is like taillights on a boat which illuminate where we have been when we should be focusing on where we should be going.”
2. Abraham Lincoln, perhaps the most inexperienced of them all and a political late-bloomer, was elected president at age 52 after 2 short years as a US Senator from Illinois. This beginner managed to make one of the most significant contributions to the progressive advancement of American values that, to this day we continue to elaborate.
3. GW Bush had no experience beyond one 4-year term of state level politics as governor. The mockery he made of "representing" the best interests of Texans is well documented. His failures in virtually every business venture he ever tried and his silver spoon sense of heritage was the stuff of legend in the Lone Star State. He was a horrible governor. His tenure as president has been an utter disaster.
4. Bill Clinton had a little more on the state level, but no federal level experience. At least his state-level experience reflected well on him in that regard: 2 years as Arkansas Attorney General (1977-1979), and 11 years total as Governor (1979-1981 and 1983-1992). Must have been doing something right for his constituents, since they kept bringing him back, just like they did when he served 2 terms as a rookie pres.
5. Ronald Reagan. Lots of on-screen acting experience in Hollywood, 8 years as a Governor, none whatsoever on the federal level. Want to dish about the rock star/"celebrity" candidate? Guess not. California, home of Hollywood, is entitled. They have another celebrity governor who, like Reagan, won that office without any prior political experience whatsoever.
6. Jimmy Carter. Three years in the Georgia State House of Representatives and 4 years as Governor. No federal experience.

Does not seem to have been much of a REAL issue in the past…probably still isn't. That "so-called" bad image of the US among world leaders is justified and well deserved. Fact remains that, while others before him had their hand in this erosion of US standing, George Bush's contribution in this regard is unmatched in recent times. Piece of work, that guy. Denying this will not make it any less true. Don't waste your time speculating on how well received Obama will be tonight or how seriously he will be taken. For most of us, including, Ahmadinejad or Medvedev, we are drop dead serious about the direction the our country is going and will be looking way, far beyond spineless, impotent personal attacks and examining the question of how many among us and across the globe share his vision of the future….same questions the republicans will have to face, at long last, next week.

Biden also said that Barack Obama was not...
ready to be President. I believe his words were: "THe Presidency does not lend itself to on-the-job training." Not what he is saying now. Let's be real about this.
I saw Biden in an interview this morning....
he got realll agitated when confronted about an issue they really did not want to break. Talking to a reporter and he almost got loud. They are not on the run, but they are definitely concerned. The debates will be verrryyyy interesting.

To Biden's credit, though, he was almost snarly to the press for sexism and attacking Palin's family. Much more forceful about it than Obama. Good for him!
Really...143 days. I agree with Joe Biden.
"The job does not lend itself to on-the-job training."