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Learned how to deal with the frustrations of politics

Posted By: Kaydie on 2008-07-02
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I am so much calmer now these days since I learned how to deal with the frustrating day to day news of politics.  My solution - I now watch HBO, The Food Channel, BBC, Travel Channel, and any other channel that is not news related.  If I want news I will look at Drudge.  TV is just too overwhelming for me and all these so called "experts" commenting on the politics. 


So...you shouldn't be seeing any more stupid irate comments from me anymore.  I'll now just be a couch potato learning how to cook different foods and planning my vacation to all these far away places on the travel channel.  Oh yes, I forgot...while I speak in a british accent because I watch so much BBC.  HA HA 




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it's politics. deal with it.

Wow, that sure got your panties all in a wad, now didn't it. 


Wonder why    ?


you have no right to let your frustrations
out on people (democrats!)who post on this board, insulting them and being 'nasty.'

Don't deny it because you admitted it yourself in your post.

Is this also the reason why you constantly slander our President, Barack Obama?

If you feel like that, get off this forum and take a cold shower!
She was in state politics at the time, not national politics......
how much foreign policy experience did Bill have when he went to the presidency having only been a governor? The same as Sarah Palin. Because he was concentrating on his job...the state of Arkansas (and Paula Jones and what was that stripper's name?). Sarah Palin was concentrating on the state of Alaska.

Good grief. lol. Why don't you poll all the governors in all the states in the union and ask them how much they think about foreign policy?
You learned? Obviously not.


I have learned to do this
I now look at the subject line then look at who is posting the message. If its a poster that I don't agree with I don't even open the message. I just move on and it saves a lot of frustration. As for the poster named sam. In the beginning we were "butting heads". I was as much to blame for this, and I always remember what my grandfather used to tell me...not everyone will always agree on politics and religion and therefore just respect what the other person has to say and move on.

I've been reading the posts in the past and in all fairness sam does not do a lot of the original posts. It is other people, then when she gives her opinion (like we are all allowed to do), that's when people start in on her and then claim she's started it all when she didn't. There are even posts that have nothing to do with politics but trying to egg sam into a fight.

So my rule I try and keep is post something and if you don't like sams response just ignore it (don't open it) and ignore it. It sure saves on the nerves. Also, its not fair to ask for someone to be banned, especially when she is not abusive and insulting and just defending her opinion, just as I'm sure you wouldn't want someone asking you to be banned.

P.S. - Sam, it might just be easier for you to change your name. We do respect your right to post messages and answer and respond. I enjoy hearing your opinion on things. I know there are others like me that feel the same way as I've been reading some of the messages. BTW, because of things you have brought up, I have changed the way I look at some things (not everything but some things).

I know it's a political board and people on both sides get into "heated" discussions, but for me I try and not take any of it too seriously. We are all people with feelings and I'm much calmer when I let things go in one ear and out the other.
We learned it from you guys
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I have learned so much about the economy over...sm
the last week but it has only made me see how much more I don't know.  Pretty scary!  We are all at the mercy of those in Washington and on Wall Street.  Plenty of blame to go around but blame will not get us out of this mess.
thank you - I learned it from Obama -
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Not naturally, learned it from you guys.

You guys are very good teachers, and people generally do learn best by example, you know.


By the way I have another question.  That smut rag by Ann Coulter you enjoy so much....she refers to Bill Clinton as a horny hick.  Now does hick apply to ALL people from Arkansas, or all people with a working class background or just people from Arkansas with a working class background? 


The lesson I learned is that Sam has class...you are

What I learned today on C-span

(I hope the spacing comes out okay, apologies if not).  From C-span here are a couple comments.  One by a republican and one by a democrat.  It’s good to know that there are people (democrats & republicans alike) who realize this is a bad deal and are looking out for our best interest and not their own.


 


Rep. Michael Burgess – R. Texas 26th district


Speaker, I come to the floor today to talk about this 700 billion dollar bill that is in front of us.  I use the term bill advisedly because we have seen no bill.  We are here debating talking points on perhaps one of the largest fundamental change in our nation’s financial system in its history.  And house republicans have been cut out of the process.  Not only have we been cut out of the process, we have also been derided by the leadership of the democratic party and called unpatriotic for not participating.  Mr.  Speaker I have been thrown out of more meetings in this capital in the past 24 hours than I ever thought possible as a duly elected representative of 820,000 citizens of North Texas.  Mr. Speaker, politics is a full contact sport and I understand that, but it is a full contact sport in the light of day in the public arena.  Since we didn’t have hearings, since we didn’t have markups, lets at least put this legislation up on the internet for 24 hours.  That’s what Thomas was made for.  Lets do that and let the American people see what we have done in the dark of night.  After all, I have not gotten any more mail, any more emails on any other subject other than this one that is before us today.  Mr. Speaker I understand we are under martial law as declared by the speaker last night.  I think its ironic house republicans have not been needed for a single thing in this house to assure passage for the last 22 months.  And today we are going to be asked to vote for a bill for political cover because democrats are too weak to stand up to their speaker.  I yield back.


 


Rep. Marcy Kaptur – D. Ohio 9th District


Mr. Speaker, my message to the American people, don’t let congress seal this wall street deal.  High financial crimes have been committed.  Now congress is being asked to bail out the culprits and to do so at the expense of those who elected us to guard their interest the people of our country.  The normal legislative process that should accompany review of a monumental proposal to bail out wall street has been shelved, yes shelved.  Only a few insiders are doing the dealing.  Sounds like insider trading to me.  These criminals have so much political power they can shut down the normal legislative process of the highest law making body in this land.  All the committees that should be scanning every word of what is being negotiated are benched, and that means the American people are benched too.  We are constitutionally sworn to protect and defend this republic against ALL enemies foreign and domestic, and my friends there are enemies.  We are told we will have a trillion dollar bill to review soon and have less than 24 hours with no regular hearings to try to vote on this tar baby.  The people pushing this deal are the very same ones who are responsible for the implosion on wall street.  They were fraudulent then and they are fraudelent now.  We should say no to this deal.  I ask my colleagues to join us at 2:00 at HC8 of the capital to meet with some real experts who have done financial resolutions without putting financial burdeon on the taxpayer.  Please join us HC8 at 2 p.m.


 


94 democrats voted against this bill today.  That is more than half the democrats, yet they get in front of the camera and give their little speeches about how all democrats are for this and its all the republicans fault this didn’t pass.  Hello folks, do the math. 


Pelosi has shown how truly inexperienced, divisive and uncaring she.  She gets up there and her mouth just flaps with nothing of substance being said.  She is incompetent and should be fired.  All that came out of her flapping gums today was more bashing of the republicans and accusing them of what democrats have been doing for over 2 years now.  Why in the world would you give a speech putting all the blame on people and bash the other political side before a vote is even held.  Chalk it up to one more of the numerous reasons she is incompetent and needs to step down.  And if she doesn’t step down she should be physically removed.  Even the Deputy Minority Whip held up a copy of Pelosi’s floor speech at a press conference and said she had “failed to listen and lead” on the issue.


Then I heard Barney Frank talk.  He should be renamed Barney Baloney.  He stands and mocks the people who voted against the bill making fun of them.  As someone said he may be a funny and clever guy, but there is nothing funny about this situation.


Did anyone even notice today that every time Pelosi and Franks spoke the market dived.  When they stopped talking the market started going up.  They’d get in front of the camera again and the market started tanking again big time.  This happened about 3 or 4 times (I was watching it on a split screen).  At that point you would have thought the President would have called over and told them to shut up because they were tanking the market.


Kucinich (democrat) said the ones who caused this are the one who are giving us a line (Pelosi, Franks, Kerry, Dodd).   


Truth is this $700B is not enough.  This is a small part of what is needed.  Many people are saying it's more like close to a trillion.  After this they’ll say well we need this much more, then that much more, and before we know it we’re going to be paying more than just $10,500.


There are economists and educated people who are asking for a decent bill.  But do they consult them.  They are the ones with the knowledge and ideas to get us out of the mess.  No who do they get – Pelosi, Franks, Dodd, etc – the people who did this in the first place).


 


All I can see is both candidates are more interested in getting themselves elected than what is happening with the economy so don’t even try to say one is worse than the other.  I cannot say what Obama is saying because I’m not hearing anything from him except that he keeps saying it needs to be fixed, but I’m not hearing his specific viewpoints on the bill itself (and I'm not hearing McCain's specifics either).  Specifics would be good if I'm suppose to vote for one or the other in November.


You should have learned that in history class
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Interesting link - learned something new

I found a site that has an interesting interview with a historian.  He wrote....


"Especially in politics it is of the utmost importance to try to look behind the facade: who makes up the team of the presidential candidate? The future president of the United States of America is for a large part dependent on and being fed by his team of advisors and future cabinet members."


Below is a link with his interview.  Very interesting.  There are two parts to the video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MouUJNG8f2k&feature=related


 


Wow, you've learned a word from O'Reilly
  tells me you must watch.  Again, exactly what does Rush say that is wrong?  I'm waiting. 
It appears she learned a new big word there. Are we impressed?

You haven't learned a thing, Lurker. sm
Historically, Vietnam taught SOME of us, including the historians, and General Giap, who published his memoirs, that the antiwar movement in the United States EMBOLDENED and STRENGTHENED THE RESOLVE of the North Vietnamese when they were ready to surrender after Tet.  To some, that might be a history lesson worth remembering and not repeating, but I know you CHOOSE not to believe this. So be it. 
Just learned how Hillary is going to get Barack to lose

Hillary's supporters like General Wesley Clark and others are starting to come out now in full force making statements that are not favorable towards Barack.  Even though Clark's statements are true (just cos you are shot down in an aircraft doesn't mean your qualified to be President) but it doesn't help in getting your party elected to the white house.  I knew she was going to do it so that McCain would win and because he's so weak he'll only be in four years then she and Bill will run again in 4 years.  I just didn't know how she was planning it until I watched the news this a.m.  She is such a skum bag in my opinion.  The worry of having to listen to her again in 4 years is enough to put me through the roof again.


Not allowed. Pubs haven't learned
LOL
She could teach a class on it solely based on what she learned
from CONS here.  You people provide a wealth of knowledge.
Guess you've learned to live within your means?
x
Lessons Obama learned from stimulus bill

 


 


http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/17/obama.ahead/index.html?iref=nextin


He learned Islamic teachings "inside" the school..
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The deal is
just like the war, embryonic stell research has been so politicized that any kind of logical even-minded interpretation has flown right out the window. 
I think it is a very big deal -
I don't think it would be a very big deal at all if she were the one paying for it and not the RNC - I don't think that clothes and makeup and haircuts is where most people think their donations are going when they donate their money...

and I don't think it sends a very good message at this time when people are trying to figure out how to buy gas and food and pay their utilities that they are paying $150,000 a month for clothes for her to wear..

and they will be donated to charitable causes? Give me a break!
Here's the deal...sm

1.  What makes it so profitable for foreign oil companies is the tax cuts provided to them by our government.  I won't even bother arguing who did that as its pretty obvious.


2.  The US Department of Energy last time I checked was a page or two before the "funnies."


3. Within the same time (or probably less) that we could drill for more oil here in the US (which wouldn't even come close to producing the quantity we use, and would not stand a chance on the market due to taxes that are already in place) we could implement other sources of energy.  In the course of this we would be providing renewable energy, decrease the horrific environmental impact on the environment, and create new jobs. 


I also think this was a done deal
before the DNC. Remember how pelosi said SHE would take care of it (meaning the nominee) before the DNC? I had the feeling when HC conceded, it was because she was made a sweet deal by somebody.
OK, hon, this is the deal.
Hitler was an anti-Semite, granted. Using his Holocaust against the Jews as a historical parallel to illustrate the Palestinian Holocaust is not.

I do not wish to waste my time beating this dead horse with you, especially since your entire argument is founded on a false premise (a kind reference to what, in fact, is a filthy lie that seeks to dehumanize and trivialize genocidal slaughter). As long as you dismiss the occupation and "myth" and try to present a case that rewrites a distorted and warped history by assuming an exclusionary myopic perspective based on such an outrage (occupation denial), nothing you have to say holds any credibility and merits no further consideration or comment.

As long as the Israel perpetuates its own myth-based myth and believes it can justify state-sponsored terrorist apartheid occupation, it will doom itself to living in a parallel universe as a hated global pariah and its population will never see a moment of real peace or security.

that was quite a deal, eh? sm

Being conservative and pro-life (and never having given birth to boot), "freedom of speech" is something I want to see more often--certainly more than "racist!"  Talk about an over-played, lame-@ss word, ya know?


My only take on it is that, like Savage says, "I leave vengeance to God."  But you certainly have every right to say whatever you want, and I'm glad you said it without apology. 


What really ticked me off was when Greg Jarrett on Fox used the term for pro-lifers as "extremists."  Excuse me?  I have every right to be pro-life and hold anyone I elect to that same mindset.  So that makes me an extremist?  It escapes me if I'm also considered a religious extremist.


That frosts me far more than about any of the lame remarks like GJs, etc.


Here's the deal about prejudice. sm
Prejudice is prejudice.  I don't differentiate prejudice against overweight people any differently than I do prejudice for race.  The left seems to be able to do that with no problem.  Why, you would think they are all slender and well groomed.  However, the presence in their midst of people like Ted Kennedy, Jerry Nadler, Barney Franks, Linda Ronstadt, etc., etc., would prove differently. 
Gotta deal
It is time for her to put on her big girl panties and face 'em head on. Politicians get bashed. They get bashed before they are elected and after they are elected. If she can't deal with them now, how the heck is she going to do it as the VP or possibly the Pres?

I think she can handle herself, but who knows if we will ever find out.
I think the debate is a big deal
One of these guys is going to be elected president in the next 41 days. I want to hear them debate. This crisis is not going to get worse because a few hours are spent on a debate.
See my ad below for a great deal on
$700 billion delivers it right to your door!
The reason it has become a big deal . . .
this is a woman who is almost single handedly dividing this country into pro-American and anti-American.  (Can you say McCarthyism?)She who claims to be so patriotic and pro-America.  If she is so gosh-darned American, than why isn't she buying her clothes at Wal-Mart?  Can't get much more American than that!  She actually sees herself as some sort of grand presevationist of the great American ideal -- bullhockey!.  She is nothing but a power-crazed, hypocritical megalomaniac.  She gives us legitimate women a bad name and I am ashamed to share gender with her!
Sorry you have to deal with so many cooks
nm
They sure won't be able to deal with it if he loses.

A $2M victory party already.  If he loses what will he do?  Many news casters both left and right say he should not be so bold to think he already has won.  Nov 4th has not arrived yet.  I'm hearing more and more democrats are voting for McCain.  Polls are neck in neck (even though they don't mean squat), but they are all over the place.  And we do have to factor in the 11% who are undecided.  And factor in the people who are too afraid to publicly state they are not for Obama, yet when election time comes they feel more comfortable having someone in who has experience and knows what they are doing.  So what's going to happen if they do lose.  It IS a possibility after all.  Even Michelle Obama at a rally said do not listen to the polls it is a close race.


I don't think for one second that there will be riots.  I think that is a scare tactic being used by Obama supporters to put fear in Americans. "Vote for Obama or we'll riot".  Pulleese.  I know that if Obama wins there are a lot on the other side who will say the same.  Illegal elections, votes stolen, it goes both ways.


So, I just sit back, hope the next 9 days go by fast and will wait until late 11/4 or 11/5 if it takes that long to see who won. 


If Obama wins I will come back on the board and say "congratulations" but if he loses I will say "I told you so".  It's at the time when people get too cockie that things don't work out the way they hope them to.


Of course you don't understand the big deal.
You could have written the scripts. A lot of it is identical to what you post on this forum.
Was a deal made??? probably. sm
And no matter what deal was made or how or by who, bottom line is that the American people are going to get the brown end of the stick....AGAIN.
I have an awesome deal right now too (sm)

My husband is a firefighter so we have insurance through the city (BC/BS).  That's a relief all by itself!  However, the city has gone one step further for its employees.  They provide FOR FREE a clinic where you can go for the small stuff (cuts, colds, UTIs, etc).  They also provide city employees with FREE medicine so long as they carry it.  It has to be generic, but it's such a huge help.  What this service provides us:  For me:  lipid-lowering agent, happy pills, sleeping pills, and PPI.  For my husband:  Blood pressure medication and PPI.


They did this because it is actually cheaper for them in the long run to provide this service to their employees with health maintenance drugs, thereby reducing the added cost to the insurance from people not being able to afford this medication and ending up in the hospital which in the long run increases the cost of insurance.  I just hope they can continue to do this.


Geesh what is your deal?
I am laughing at this!  Out of all the nasty, mean, down right horrible posts on this board, you pick this one to get  your panties in a wad about?  I dont get it?  Abc posted that she could kill her baby in her tummy which is here opinion but what about that?  why not be upset over that?  is that cuz you agree with abortion and that is okay?  you're like on a witch hunt or something.
The only ones making a big deal are
the liberals trying to argue that everyone is prejudice against him and a racist. Conservatives and independents could care less. Conservatives and independents try to argue about issues. The liberals (most but not all) are the ones who turn it into a race issue.

We all know he's half white/half black and I think the one making the biggest deal out of him being the first black is he himself.
big flippin deal

Desperately grasping at straws to stir up some kind of controversy. 


 


no, here is the deal, the question was
did he give her a chance to answer the question or not? Yes he did. And since she did not, he looked it up for himself and gave us the the answer on tonight's show. She said her way of defending Sarah was by calling Bill-O a sexist during the campaign. SAY WHAT, how is that defending anyone?
Yes, I truly think we will get a worse deal...

...with universal healthcare than we have now.  If you want to screw something up royally, give it to the gummint to run. 


Good lord!  Look at Canada or the UK, who have socialized medicine.  You go into a Canadian clinic.  It's a walk-in system. They don't make appointments.  You take a number, which is 51.  Number fifty is called.  Then it's quitting time.  You get sent home to come back another day and try your luck again.  Need an MRI?  Take a number.  We'lll call you in 4-6 months - or you could go to the US for it.  Need bypass surgery?  We'll see about that.   


It will become a triage system:  You, sir, are 60 years old and overweight.  Your cholesterol is too high.  Why should we waste our precious resources on you when younger and more viable specimens are stacking up outside?  No, you may not have an angioplasty - at least not this decade.  NEXT! 


Socialized medicine is a pretty good deal if you're young and don't need a lot of services - not so very good when you reach an age when you actually do need them.


 


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what is the deal with the mob mentality...
is this gang up on old men day? And I say this with the utmost respect because I, for one, really like old men! Do you people have so little to say to actually bolster you stance on issues that all you can do to feel better is pick on one particular poster? Well, here you go--pick on me, too, if it will make you feel better about yourselves. I can, as I am sure TechSupport can, take it.
I just got my Dell, what a deal that was!
I have had Dells in the past, would have gone with them last year but I knew they had Vista, could not use with my platform and just recently learned you could still, for a price, have XP put on. Back to my story. Had always had really good machines from there, had put up with the language before, not as bad in years past like now. I got passed from pillar to post and back again ordering. I spoke with 1 person, completely unable to talk with them and told them I have to listen to different dialects each day in my job, not when I am ordering and told them wanted to speak to someone I can understand. I am older and don’t have time to play around. I placed order, delivery delayed and delayed and delayed. I thought it would never get here. Another delay and I was cancelling my order and it just showed up 1 day. I hope to get really good service, not from them because that just does not happen now, but from the machine itself. That was a chore to have to go through that and should never be that way. I was told about the delay that Dell could not get the parts needed for the computer??
No big deal. Everyone makes mistakes.
It's easy to do on this board sometimes.
I don't think the phone call to CBS was a big deal....sm
This call has nothing to do with politics but more of a favor to a friend. He used his influence to help a friend out. Looks like CBS owed him the money anyway. Friends help each other out this way all the time, no harm done IMHO.

Travelgate is a different story. Firing the people for not reason to appoint friends is cronyism.
Obama is the real deal! lol
I've watched every debate in the primaries and in the champaign, every interview on CNN, watched the interview after interview and heard from so many polical analysts most than I ever have in my life about an election this year. I have always been a Rep from the day I was born 46 years ago, but this is the first time in my life I am voting Dem for Obama. There is no question he is going to make more of a difference, and just maybe, our jobs could be saved and not outsourced by his tax break to companies who DO NOT outsource! Obama 08! =)
Here's the deal. This kind of rhetoric is exactly
and does absolutely nothing to advance the cause of your broken down party and the dirth of leadership you are currently experiencing. This kind of disconnect between your party and the rest of us is exactly what you should be spending your time trying to come to terms with.

Being a democrat, it is fine with me if you persist along these lines, since it would serve to ensure similar election results next time around, but for your own sakes, you guys really do need to GET A GRIP.
Yeah, and why do none of you make a big deal re:
nm
Well I really didn't think it was a huge deal
and you are the only person who freaked out about it.  Give it a rest!