Linda, since I did not refer to you by name sm
Posted By: In defense of JTBB on 2009-06-24
In Reply to: having read your response to my - linda
I can only assume that you are including yourself in the group to which I referred, but I do think that those people know who they are, so as the old saying goes "if the shoe fits". Personally, I don't feel any of your comments were hateful, so don't take it personally unless "the shoe fits".
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Linda, try again, I just got in.
That is weird.
You can't be serious, Linda.
This is one of the all-time most absurd posts I have seen on any forum. You win first prize hands down!
To Linda:
Please, PLEASE visit Snopes, and you will see that this whole thing is false, false, false!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
Linda: Fair enough. sm
I did not even realize that I "tagged" into your post. I was just trying to defend someone who I have only witnessed being intelligent and trying to have vigorous discussions on very divisive subjects and MOST people on this forum do nothing but attack with derogatory comments instead of acting like rational adults. By all means, I do apologize, as I did not intend to direct my post to you personally, otherwise I would have quoted some of your comments had I found them to be as equally offensive and ugly, although it did seem to me that you were in agreement with the others' assessment of JTBB. Indeed, you seem to be one of those few "rational adults" and, again, please forgive my indignation towards those that are not.
To Marmann, Linda and others - see information
Please, PLEASE do not always think snopes is correct. They have been wrong on many occasions. Just type in "has snopes ever been wrong" in Google and many links come up to show they have been wrong. Snopes is run by Barbara and David Mikkelson, a California couple who met through an folklore urban newsgroup. And there is no credible sources whatsoever on snopes to prove that this is false. And being from California who are huge Obama supporters...well how convenient they just happen to have this website and can put up information without credible sources and everyone believes them???
To others - If there was "nothing" to this story, Barack would not have been ordered by one of the supreme court justices to submit his original birth certificate which he never did. The phony birth certificate that the Annenberg foundation (P.S. the Annenberg foundation is a staunch supporter of Obama) claims is his birth certificate has too many flaws on it.
I know a lot of Obama supporters are trying to push this under the carpet and pretend it never happened and try to debunk anyone trying to search for the truth.
The truth is that the actual birth certificate was never submitted. And like one of the posters said below "Obama has not shown it. He does not have it and the hospital has no record of birth certificate" the copy they have I do believe will prove he was born in Kenya. If he had it and it was valid he would show it, not have it legally hidden away so that NOBODY can view it. Brother! Talk about sending out red flags. Anyone with any sense can see there is something very wrong with this. If he was legal he would have shown the real certificate a long time ago and proved the "so called rumors" to be false. But because he hasn't anyone with any sense has got to wonder why. Why isn't he showing the true certificate? Why did the DNC give him a pass without checking it out? Who is backing him? Why was he legally allowed to secure the certificate? Too many why's.
But to have the supreme court involved. They don't take "bogus" cases, so there must be something valid to the claim that it will show he was born in Kenya to an American woman and African father and became an Indonesia citizen (and we don't know if he ever applied for US Citizenship).
We will soon find out (I hope). If he does not provide proof then everything he does as a president will mean nothing because it will all be invalid.
Linda C. - -- stop emailing me personally with posts...sm
You need to read my post again. I said....a person that commented on Obama's video...a person commenting on the Youtube site....said a nasty word about a different poster....I in no way said that Obama said that word.......you really need to read what people say before you reply.....
And STOP emailing me personally. It's a shame you accuse me of saying something false here, when you didn't even take the time to fully comprehend what I posted.
Linda's comment emailed to me:
This is probably the way things get started, falsely that is. I have watched the youtube you were speaking of and where in the world did he supposedly say something that was x-rated? It is a shame that any and all that people try to say about him just does not work, your's being 1 of those. Linda
I agree, Linda...time will tell. Polls kinda take a pulse...
they can change so quickly.
As far as Hillary supporters, the hard-line vote Democrat or die group will vote for Obama. It is the ones who are angry at the DNC and Howard Dean...those are the ones who might be persuaded. But even if they are not, those independents and undecideds seem to really like her.
We will see how it goes...but it IS exciting, isn't it? She is definitely not Washington politics as usual and that is SO refreshing!
Dear Linda C in George -- don't send me any more personal emails...sm
post your comments on the board, please. Maybe other want to see your comments. Thank you. By the way, my entire post was from an online newspaper; none of it was my personal thoughts on the subject, aside from the Subject line above.
Email from Linda C in George:
I think it is a good thing for the University to cancel- you have seen the hatred put forth by McCain supporters- unreal- with almost a gang like trend to them. Oh, just 1 question- you wrote in your post this invitation was extended several months ago, like in February- strange that the people who invited him at that time did not KNOW who he was, right, even as late as 02/2008- but I guess Obama knew when he served on the Republican based board with him. You make contradictions in your statements but I get the jest. There are plenty of other states (mine included, Georgia) that have turned blue and I am looking for a total landslide for Obama.
I refer you to what was said
previously by Sam:
"She was the mayor and her constituents were concerned about some questionable books in the library. In a meeting with the council she brought up that concern. According to that same Alaskan (Kilkenny, a Democrat, go figure), the same one who wrote the email cutting her to ribbons and one of the points was "She has hated me since 1992"....the first time she described the issue it was "I remember she brought up something about some books in the library but she never took it anywhere." Now, since she is running for VP, it has become "She tried to ban books!" Typical political crap. She was doing her job. Constituents brought her concerns and she brought those concerns to the council. "
I refer you to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state
Thomas Jefferson argued for the freedom you note, but also of secularity of state. Your god is your business and can occupy whatever part of *your* life you like, but it has no business in my face.
Help me find what you refer to...
I am trying to figure you what you meant by Beyond Belief. I went to the website and searched under Berlin speech but nothing came up. I am interested to know what you are trying to say. What did you read that gave you this reaction?
Who is "they" you refer to?
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please refer to the post at the top...
I counted at least THREE refundable tax credits, including one which will eliminate federal taxes for low income families.
I am not the same poster to whom you refer.
If you smell anything, it would be "hypocrisy" not "hypocracy." Misspelled words are underlined in red for a reason!
By the way, the hateful, bitter, low-class spew on this board has been provided courtesy of the red-neck, Bible-thumping, bigoted, right-wing posters. They are the ones who have shown their true colors.
You refer to being nasty, yet you state...
"I could give a flying crap." Personally, I find that offensive and feel that you are a big part of the problem.
Please refer to mine and give me
relative to your double standard.
Please refer to LVMT post on neoconservatism
You will have to scroll down a bit to find it. It kind of got lost in the debris of all the other posts. I think it is a very valuable piece of information and addresses a topic that gets brought up frequently by the posters on the other board and is something I was unclear about until I read this.
Thanks for your research!!
I refer to minimum wage workers because...
This type of work normally paid minimum wage. I, however, did not...
Our hatred? Please refer to post above by your compassionate left
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One does not refer to people as "Joe Six Pack" - it's disgusting!!!
nm
Refer to the post below where Bush has pretty much doubled the money
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Please refer me to any post where I referred to either the post...
or the poster as ignorant. And I certainly never sunk to the levels you did at the top of the post, against a man who is ill in a wheelchair. Pot calling the kettle black...?
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