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Please refer to LVMT post on neoconservatism

Posted By: Teddy on 2007-02-01
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You will have to scroll down a bit to find it.  It kind of got lost in the debris of all the other posts.  I think it is a very valuable piece of information and addresses a topic that gets brought up frequently by the posters on the other board and is something I was unclear about until I read this.


Thanks for your research!!




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please refer to the post at the top...
I counted at least THREE refundable tax credits, including one which will eliminate federal taxes for low income families.


Please refer me to any post where I referred to either the post...
or the poster as ignorant. And I certainly never sunk to the levels you did at the top of the post, against a man who is ill in a wheelchair. Pot calling the kettle black...?
Our hatred? Please refer to post above by your compassionate left
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Refer to the post below where Bush has pretty much doubled the money
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Neoconservatism, per Ron Paul.
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr0710033.htm
I refer you to what was said

previously by Sam:


"She was the mayor and her constituents were concerned about some questionable books in the library. In a meeting with the council she brought up that concern. According to that same Alaskan (Kilkenny, a Democrat, go figure), the same one who wrote the email cutting her to ribbons and one of the points was "She has hated me since 1992"....the first time she described the issue it was "I remember she brought up something about some books in the library but she never took it anywhere." Now, since she is running for VP, it has become "She tried to ban books!" Typical political crap. She was doing her job. Constituents brought her concerns and she brought those concerns to the council. "


I refer you to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state

Thomas Jefferson argued for the freedom you note, but also of secularity of state. Your god is your business and can occupy whatever part of *your* life you like, but it has no business in my face.


Help me find what you refer to...
I am trying to figure you what you meant by Beyond Belief. I went to the website and searched under Berlin speech but nothing came up. I am interested to know what you are trying to say. What did you read that gave you this reaction?
Who is "they" you refer to?
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I am not the same poster to whom you refer.
If you smell anything, it would be "hypocrisy" not "hypocracy." Misspelled words are underlined in red for a reason!

By the way, the hateful, bitter, low-class spew on this board has been provided courtesy of the red-neck, Bible-thumping, bigoted, right-wing posters. They are the ones who have shown their true colors.
Linda, since I did not refer to you by name sm
I can only assume that you are including yourself in the group to which I referred, but I do think that those people know who they are, so as the old saying goes "if the shoe fits".  Personally, I don't feel any of your comments were hateful, so don't take it personally unless "the shoe fits". 
To LVMT

I just saw this for the first time today.  If you haven't seen it, I'd definitely recommend it because I think you might find it interesting.


http://freepressinternational.com/FPI/nfblog/mit-engineer-breaks-down-wtc-controlled-demolition


LOL! Thanks, LVMT.
I had missed that one.  Amazing.  Seven guys who study the BIBLE and don't have enough money between them to buy a Happy Meal.  Softball team would be a start, no?  LOL!
You refer to being nasty, yet you state...
"I could give a flying crap." Personally, I find that offensive and feel that you are a big part of the problem.
Please refer to mine and give me
relative to your double standard.
Thanks for the link, LVMT;
alone in wondering about the timing of all of this....just like when the terror alerts disappeared after the election. Fear in all its forms(including eternal damnation) has always been useful in pacifying/controlling/manipulating the masses, no?
Worked for me; thanks, LVMT

Thanks for the link, LVMT (nm)
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I refer to minimum wage workers because...
This type of work normally paid minimum wage.  I, however, did not...
Thanks for the nice words, LVMT.

But do yourself a favor.  Don't say anything nice to me or about me on this board.  If you do, you will be immediately hated and attacked, as well.  I don't want to see anyone else have to deal with their crap.  Life is just too short and they are just sooooooooooo not worth it.


Link is missing LVMT...nm

Hope you get up to speed soon LVMT... nm

Good luck, LVMT
All jobs take a while to get used to.  I'm sure you'll do very well in a very short time.  Hope you come back soon.
Look LVMT, you look up all the little definitions you want. You are still wrong. sm
Very very wrong.  Christopher Hitchens is hardly a neoconservative.  Neither am I and neither are most of the other conservative posters here. 
I'm sorry LVMT........ credit should have gone to you for posting! My bad! nm
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One does not refer to people as "Joe Six Pack" - it's disgusting!!!
nm
Thanks, LVMT; yup, propaganda is the word, alright.
You just wonder how much more damage will be done before more people see through it.
Oh so true, LVMT. Love the way you put that...El Duce the Moose!

Just had to let you know you gave me a big laugh which we all need these days.  Also, since I'm on here, you are also exactly right about Colbert.  As in the movie A Few Good Men,  they can't handle the truth!  It is what it is! 


I agree. Great article. Thanks, LVMT for posting it.
To m:  LOL.  No problem.  It's very easy to do on this board. 
LVMT, I love it! Forgot how good that scene was! nm...
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It worked for me. It worked for LVMT. Must be something wrong with US, right?
From your attitude on this board, though, it's unlikely you would enjoy it anyway.
P.S. Please scroll down after reading above post. Washington Post article included.

Reprinted in Boston Globe.  Sorry!


I wrote: I second JTBB's post, 'watcher's post is misinformed crap...sm
pYou have also to read what's posted 'inside' the message.
Oops, meant to post this under the loose trolls post...
I'm going to keep ignoring these troll posts.  It's kind of fun, actually, just pretend you don't see them.
Post the direct link. I don't see the post you're referring to.
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The post I quoted was the entire post. It was not taken out of context. sm
I imagine there are as many emotions and thoughts going on with our troops as possible and each does not feel the same as the other, which is obvious by the posts here. 
Sorry gourdpainter, my other post should have been under the wacky Pakistan post (nm)
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Why did you post this? Republicans have been asked NOT to post here..Bye Bye.
Why did you post this?  Happy Thanksgiving is enough but to be so happy we have a republican president?  Why did you post that?  I would like to remind you, you are on the liberal board.  Are you trying to start trouble?  If so, let me know and I will report you immediately.  No, Im not happy we have a republican president, a warmonger chickenhawk president.  Does that answer your question?  Now, go back to the republican board.  We dont want you here and actually the moderator and administrator have asked republicans not to post here..Bye..bye..
Forgot to post a link in 1st post. Sorry.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/money/tax/article1996735.ece
I re-read your post, and I stand by my post.
You are twisting his words by saying that he wants to make friends with terrorists. That is not what he said.
Ya gotta understand the rules. We have to post on this board only. They can post on any board they

The above post explains a lot about everything else you post!
Your revelation about being married to a career Army guy explains why your views are skewed so drastically to the far right! I thought it had to do with small-town Pennsylvania, but now I truly understand where you are coming from. Thank you for explaining that us. We will read your posts in a completely different light now that we know the truth.
If you want to post something on the subject, post

objective views. This is a one-sided publication that asks for donations to keep it going. Nothing I read in there posts anything against any democrats, just republicans. It is not a fair-minded reporting.


I like to read both sides of the aisle but this publication spews hatred for anything not democratic in order to sell books.  To those who can't see both sides, this blog, or publication as they like to state, is just up their aisle. I shake my head at one-sided news. Taken from their web site:


"Indeed, a founding idea of the Consortium for Independent Journalism was that a major investment was needed in journalistic endeavors committed to honestly informing the American people about important events, no matter what the political and economic pressures.


While we are proud of the journalistic contribution that this Web site has made over the past decade – and while we are deeply grateful to our readers whose contributions have kept us afloat – we also must admit that we have not made the case well enough that this mission is a vital one.


Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His new book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.' "


I second your post and 'watcher's post
is misinformed crap.
My post was a direct answer to the direct post...
of Democrat. It was not a blank open-ended statement. And dial it back a notch...it is certainly your right to protest anything any time you want to. Just like it is my right to protest you protesting while men and women are still in harm's way, because you are in effect aiding the enemy. Apparently the Viet Nam experience taught you nothing. Americans protesting in the streets heartened the enemy and when they were about to surrender decided not to, based a lot upon what was happening in the American streets. I believe that the protesting in that war prolonged the war and cost more American lives. Hanoi Jane should have been tried for treason. That being said...lessons were not learned and the protestors are doing the exact same thing now. Exercising the very right bought for them by shedding of American military blood. And I still say common courtesy should keep people out of the streets and off the TV until the military are home safe. But it just proves the same thing to me over and over...the selfISHhness of the protestors vs. the selfLESSness of the military. They continue to put it all on the line for your right to protest anything you want to protest...it is up to YOU to decide where and when that is appropriate, and it is up to you to take the heat for same. It is up to me and others like me (in my opinion) to apply that heat. Go ahead and do whatever your conscience or lack thereof moves you to do. But do not expect those of a different mind not to protest the protest.
Thanks for the post. I think I will look up that

article.


And thanks for pointing out all the other "results" of his administration that, as you say, benefit nobody but the rich and/or the corporations or, as he himself once publicly bragged, "his base."


I know for a fact that when he ran for President in 2000, I told every single person I knew that if he becomes President, we're going to go to war with Iraq.  (Nobody's gonna treat his daddy like Saddam did and get away with it.)


I didn't have a crystal ball.  I had common sense and a good memory from the Gulf War when his father was President and how he didn't "finish the job." Seems a lot of other Americans forgot about that.


I really enjoyed reading your post and all the facts you raised that I failed to raise in mine.  Thanks for the mention of the LA Times article.  I'm going to try to look that up on the web.


I know they don't. I said that in my post. NM
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Actually, that post is right on. sm
You sound like a total lunatic, out of control and full of hatred.  You sound like someone who could do just what "vs" says.  You had best take a look at your behavior.  YOUR posts are the ones who should be reported.  You are one frightening person. 
Re your post

From your post:


"Did you read Mein Kampf?  Would that be good enough evidence for you, because he wrote about it in there."


Wrote about what?  That the Jews were socialists?


This is an entirely different post.
Really wasn't directed to you anyhow.
your post is just sad

I'm actually feeling sad for you right now gt.  You obviously don't know what Christianity is about.  Pat Robertson does not speak for me, and I don't endorse what he said.  I'm sorry you are so bitter and hate filled that you would wish anyone to burn in hell.  There are some evil people in this world but my first wish for them is that they find Christ and turn from their evil ways with His help.  I too hope one day you find Christ, gt, and quit letting misguided Christians and Christian leaders keep you from HIM.  Their blunders are not worth your eternal soul.