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Please refer me to any post where I referred to either the post...

Posted By: sam on 2008-08-29
In Reply to: you first? - valuevoter

or the poster as ignorant. And I certainly never sunk to the levels you did at the top of the post, against a man who is ill in a wheelchair. Pot calling the kettle black...?


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please refer to the post at the top...
I counted at least THREE refundable tax credits, including one which will eliminate federal taxes for low income families.


Please refer to LVMT post on neoconservatism

You will have to scroll down a bit to find it.  It kind of got lost in the debris of all the other posts.  I think it is a very valuable piece of information and addresses a topic that gets brought up frequently by the posters on the other board and is something I was unclear about until I read this.


Thanks for your research!!


Our hatred? Please refer to post above by your compassionate left
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Refer to the post below where Bush has pretty much doubled the money
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P.S. Please scroll down after reading above post. Washington Post article included.

Reprinted in Boston Globe.  Sorry!


I wrote: I second JTBB's post, 'watcher's post is misinformed crap...sm
pYou have also to read what's posted 'inside' the message.
Oops, meant to post this under the loose trolls post...
I'm going to keep ignoring these troll posts.  It's kind of fun, actually, just pretend you don't see them.
Post the direct link. I don't see the post you're referring to.
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The post I quoted was the entire post. It was not taken out of context. sm
I imagine there are as many emotions and thoughts going on with our troops as possible and each does not feel the same as the other, which is obvious by the posts here. 
Sorry gourdpainter, my other post should have been under the wacky Pakistan post (nm)
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Why did you post this? Republicans have been asked NOT to post here..Bye Bye.
Why did you post this?  Happy Thanksgiving is enough but to be so happy we have a republican president?  Why did you post that?  I would like to remind you, you are on the liberal board.  Are you trying to start trouble?  If so, let me know and I will report you immediately.  No, Im not happy we have a republican president, a warmonger chickenhawk president.  Does that answer your question?  Now, go back to the republican board.  We dont want you here and actually the moderator and administrator have asked republicans not to post here..Bye..bye..
Forgot to post a link in 1st post. Sorry.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/money/tax/article1996735.ece
I re-read your post, and I stand by my post.
You are twisting his words by saying that he wants to make friends with terrorists. That is not what he said.
Ya gotta understand the rules. We have to post on this board only. They can post on any board they

The above post explains a lot about everything else you post!
Your revelation about being married to a career Army guy explains why your views are skewed so drastically to the far right! I thought it had to do with small-town Pennsylvania, but now I truly understand where you are coming from. Thank you for explaining that us. We will read your posts in a completely different light now that we know the truth.
If you want to post something on the subject, post

objective views. This is a one-sided publication that asks for donations to keep it going. Nothing I read in there posts anything against any democrats, just republicans. It is not a fair-minded reporting.


I like to read both sides of the aisle but this publication spews hatred for anything not democratic in order to sell books.  To those who can't see both sides, this blog, or publication as they like to state, is just up their aisle. I shake my head at one-sided news. Taken from their web site:


"Indeed, a founding idea of the Consortium for Independent Journalism was that a major investment was needed in journalistic endeavors committed to honestly informing the American people about important events, no matter what the political and economic pressures.


While we are proud of the journalistic contribution that this Web site has made over the past decade – and while we are deeply grateful to our readers whose contributions have kept us afloat – we also must admit that we have not made the case well enough that this mission is a vital one.


Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His new book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.' "


I second your post and 'watcher's post
is misinformed crap.
I think it's referred to sm

 hypocrisy biting you in the butt!!


This is the *new girlfriend* referred to...
in above post:

Bill and Belinda’s excellent adventure



But Clinton’s new, er, friendship isn’t helping his wife’s presidential aims, writes eric reguly

As potential girlfriends go, Belinda Stronach would rank as a true catch. She is single, youngish (she just turned 40), attractive, wealthy, impeccably well-connected and politically ambitious - glamorous in every respect. Two years ago, Time magazine listed her as one of the 100 most powerful people on the planet. The tabloids cut to the chase: they called her the blonde bombshell or Bubba's blonde.

Bubba, of course, is Bill Clinton. He has been photographed with Stronach (right) several times. The sightings seem to be getting more frequent, leading to press speculation that their relationship has moved beyond official friendship - the description used by Stronach's PR people - to true romance. Poor Hillary Clinton. In the run-up to her presidential campaign, the last thing the New York senator needs is lurid stories about her skirt-chasing husband.

Two years ago, the woman Canadians refer to as Belinda quit both her job as CEO of the C$10 billion Magna International auto parts empire (created by her father, Frank Stronach) and her then husband - Norwegian speed-skating champion Johann Koss - for politics.

She was elected in a Conservative riding (constituency) just north of Toronto. More important, despite supporting abortion rights, gun control and same-sex marriages, she ran for leadership of the Conservatives - but lost to the right-winger Stephen Harper.
A year later she crossed the floor to join the governing Liberal party and was rewarded with a minor cabinet post. Alas, in January 2006, after barely six months in government for Belinda, the Liberals lost power. Belinda, though, held on to her seat and, less than two years after seeking to lead the Tories, found herself considering running for the Liberal leadership. But in April, after sizing up the competitors, including former Observer columnist and BBC presenter Michael Ignatieff, she dropped out of the race.

Clinton may not care too much. An acquaintance of Belinda's says: Bill was always more interested in her money than her breasts. Still, you can't help but wonder if his ultimate fantasy revolved around Hillary in the White House and Belinda running Canada: Which G8 leader should I visit this weekend?

pick there if anyone interested...

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=2&subID=578&p=3





That wasn't the story to which I referred
If you check you will find numerous stories of teachers AND students being told they couldn't wear a cross around their neck.

This story to which you refer says nothing about jewelry.

My post was a direct answer to the direct post...
of Democrat. It was not a blank open-ended statement. And dial it back a notch...it is certainly your right to protest anything any time you want to. Just like it is my right to protest you protesting while men and women are still in harm's way, because you are in effect aiding the enemy. Apparently the Viet Nam experience taught you nothing. Americans protesting in the streets heartened the enemy and when they were about to surrender decided not to, based a lot upon what was happening in the American streets. I believe that the protesting in that war prolonged the war and cost more American lives. Hanoi Jane should have been tried for treason. That being said...lessons were not learned and the protestors are doing the exact same thing now. Exercising the very right bought for them by shedding of American military blood. And I still say common courtesy should keep people out of the streets and off the TV until the military are home safe. But it just proves the same thing to me over and over...the selfISHhness of the protestors vs. the selfLESSness of the military. They continue to put it all on the line for your right to protest anything you want to protest...it is up to YOU to decide where and when that is appropriate, and it is up to you to take the heat for same. It is up to me and others like me (in my opinion) to apply that heat. Go ahead and do whatever your conscience or lack thereof moves you to do. But do not expect those of a different mind not to protest the protest.
I am the poster who referred the optruth.org websit
Your post seems to do nothing other than try bait or begin an argument. This seems to quite prevalent these days in our country, with the Rebublicans saying and Dems each saying silly, outrageous things that provoke the other side and prompt diatribes, apologies, insults, etc., etc.,...

The news cycle then follows these "discourses" and waits to see what the other side will say to whatever loony statement was originated... case in point, Karl Rove says that liberals wanted to give therapy to the terrorists, or some such nonsense, and the Dems predictably jump all over his case.. The result being that intelligent or sensible solutions to the problems our country is facing seem to get lost in the shuffle of what passes for "dialogue." Don't worry, the Dems say dumb things too.

My question to you is, did you visit optruth.org? Whether you are for or against the war, did you find the information enlightening? Do you feel the soldiers are telling the truth? There is a whole lot of information out there that indicates that this war is wrong!!

Contrary to your statement, I don't believe liberals are a "pack of wolves" any more than conservatives are, nor do I feel I am an extremist.
I never referred to Clinton as a serial rapist...
what I did post was from personal knowledge of the woman who accused him of rape...just one woman, never branded the man a serial rapist. It did not come from a right wing blog...and Dick Morris, when he was asked the question and answered if it was anything it was date rape, he didn't jump out of the bushes with a knife was at that time working for Clinton...hardly a far right individual. As I stated ad nauseam, I know Juanita Broaddrick personally and I believe her. That is what I also posted. I also said he had been *accused.* I also know why it was not pursued further. Want to talk about Vince Foster?
Yeah, there's a reason people like him are referred to as s/m
"fringe".  I am so embarrassed that Gingrey groveled at his feet (being from Georgia and all), which shows you how many fringers are in this state (NOT ME!!).  I'm like you BB, just a lonely blue dot in a big red state!  GET ME OUT!!!
Yeah, O's plan was referred to today as a "fraud"
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I refer you to what was said

previously by Sam:


"She was the mayor and her constituents were concerned about some questionable books in the library. In a meeting with the council she brought up that concern. According to that same Alaskan (Kilkenny, a Democrat, go figure), the same one who wrote the email cutting her to ribbons and one of the points was "She has hated me since 1992"....the first time she described the issue it was "I remember she brought up something about some books in the library but she never took it anywhere." Now, since she is running for VP, it has become "She tried to ban books!" Typical political crap. She was doing her job. Constituents brought her concerns and she brought those concerns to the council. "


I refer you to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state

Thomas Jefferson argued for the freedom you note, but also of secularity of state. Your god is your business and can occupy whatever part of *your* life you like, but it has no business in my face.


Help me find what you refer to...
I am trying to figure you what you meant by Beyond Belief. I went to the website and searched under Berlin speech but nothing came up. I am interested to know what you are trying to say. What did you read that gave you this reaction?
Who is "they" you refer to?
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I am not the same poster to whom you refer.
If you smell anything, it would be "hypocrisy" not "hypocracy." Misspelled words are underlined in red for a reason!

By the way, the hateful, bitter, low-class spew on this board has been provided courtesy of the red-neck, Bible-thumping, bigoted, right-wing posters. They are the ones who have shown their true colors.
Linda, since I did not refer to you by name sm
I can only assume that you are including yourself in the group to which I referred, but I do think that those people know who they are, so as the old saying goes "if the shoe fits".  Personally, I don't feel any of your comments were hateful, so don't take it personally unless "the shoe fits". 
You refer to being nasty, yet you state...
"I could give a flying crap." Personally, I find that offensive and feel that you are a big part of the problem.
Please refer to mine and give me
relative to your double standard.
I refer to minimum wage workers because...
This type of work normally paid minimum wage.  I, however, did not...
One does not refer to people as "Joe Six Pack" - it's disgusting!!!
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Thanks for the post. I think I will look up that

article.


And thanks for pointing out all the other "results" of his administration that, as you say, benefit nobody but the rich and/or the corporations or, as he himself once publicly bragged, "his base."


I know for a fact that when he ran for President in 2000, I told every single person I knew that if he becomes President, we're going to go to war with Iraq.  (Nobody's gonna treat his daddy like Saddam did and get away with it.)


I didn't have a crystal ball.  I had common sense and a good memory from the Gulf War when his father was President and how he didn't "finish the job." Seems a lot of other Americans forgot about that.


I really enjoyed reading your post and all the facts you raised that I failed to raise in mine.  Thanks for the mention of the LA Times article.  I'm going to try to look that up on the web.


I know they don't. I said that in my post. NM
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Actually, that post is right on. sm
You sound like a total lunatic, out of control and full of hatred.  You sound like someone who could do just what "vs" says.  You had best take a look at your behavior.  YOUR posts are the ones who should be reported.  You are one frightening person. 
Re your post

From your post:


"Did you read Mein Kampf?  Would that be good enough evidence for you, because he wrote about it in there."


Wrote about what?  That the Jews were socialists?


This is an entirely different post.
Really wasn't directed to you anyhow.
your post is just sad

I'm actually feeling sad for you right now gt.  You obviously don't know what Christianity is about.  Pat Robertson does not speak for me, and I don't endorse what he said.  I'm sorry you are so bitter and hate filled that you would wish anyone to burn in hell.  There are some evil people in this world but my first wish for them is that they find Christ and turn from their evil ways with His help.  I too hope one day you find Christ, gt, and quit letting misguided Christians and Christian leaders keep you from HIM.  Their blunders are not worth your eternal soul.


thank you for your post
What a great post, so heartfelt and I thank you for it. 
Yes I do. see my post below. nm
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The post.

You think there is only one patriot here?  Get a trip on your sour shrivled heart and try not to speak.


Whoops! I made a mistake.  My bad.


This is the post where the NEOCON tells the LIBERAL not to speak ON HER OWN BOARD!


They can't show a post of a liberal telling Army Mom not to speak because it doesn't exist. 


Where did you get that from my post?
Really?  I did?  Where do you read that in my post?  I talk about taking care of the middle class and that the rich really dont give a darn about the middle class.  I talk about a friend who is quite smug and out of touch with real America.  No where do I mention anything about Kerry or Kennedy.
please post
I would appreciate it if you could post statements from Black Americans that they are okay with Bennetts comments.
What does that have to do with gt's post
I said if we had posted something like that we would have been castigated.  You're just proving that point.  I'm not in a pissing contest with you...really
And another *right-on* post!

I agree with every single word you said.  America is becoming a very scary place indeed.  I believe, as you do, that there are people who are eagerly awaiting the *Rapture* and indeed believe they have the *inside track* to heaven.  Unfortunately, it look as if this country might actually suffer from their self-fulfilled prophecy if it continues going backwards in time under Bush's completely inept leadership.


Please keep posting.  I really enjoy reading your posts. 


Thanks very much for your post.

It makes me feel a lot better to hear someone say they're against this.  When express outrage at my posting about the issue, instead of expressing outrage about the issue itself, it truly makes me wonder.


I honestly do not recall any threads on the conservative board about this issue.  All I recall is total silence (or attacks) when the issue is mentioned.


I also wasn't trying to imply that the crime of child molestation is more prevalent in one political party or another.  Obviously, that's irrelevant, and I have a hard time even associating a criminal like that with any political views one way or the other.


It's just that this seems to be a no-brainer, an issue on which virtually everyone can agree, yet the right seems to be eerily quiet when this topic comes up.


Thank you for this post!
Thanks for this post!!  I heard about it somewhere but in the chaos that has become my life lately, I probably would have completely forgotten about it..so glad you submitted this..
Please see my post to you above.
I made a mistake and posted my reply in the wrong place.  Sorry.