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Who is "they" you refer to?

Posted By: nm on 2008-10-03
In Reply to: I heard - ld

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"they" know that there are

people who want to believe in great conspiracies and will.   They know there are informed voters who will dismiss scare tactics and innuendos and will.  "They" don't even bother with the first group - lost cause.


 


This is the "they"
I read your response and thought to myself she (or he) must think I watch a lot of X Files. HA HA HA. Okay, when I wrote that this morning my DH came out and told me "They were threatened that there would be martial law if they didn't vote for the bill". So, I got on the Internet cos I wanted to know who is the "they" - Bush? Pelosi? Franks?, who? I thought who in their insane mind would could come out and tell people vote or else there will be marshall law. So, on C-span there is a video clip of Rep. Brad Sherman. (You can access the same video from the link provided above by sm). He's a California democrat. He said "Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday that the sky would fall, the market would drop 2 or 3 thousand points the first day, a couple other thousand on the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no". He then said "That's what I call fear mongering". Now...I haven't been able to find out who exactly the "they" are (as in actual names), but this is what a democratic representative is saying.
Who are you referring to by "they" ?
I am also a Christian and don't condone any of it either and I think most people probably do not. "they" fear Muslims because all they know of Muslims is the small portion of them who are terrorists. They don't realize it is a peaceful religion. All of these things that were done in the name of religion over centuries were done by radicals one way or the other looking for an excuse. No one's God, not the God we Christians believe in, not the God Muslims believe in, condones killing and hatred. That is something we humans have done all by ourselves.
You talk about "Them" and "They"
You are the kind of person who is trying to divide this country with such unsubstantiated, ridiculously divisive statements.

Even your fellow Republicans are rallying behind PRESIDENT Obama.

I suggest you quit making ridiculous generalizations and start reading what YOUR president says instead of taking the word of lopsided, right-wing nut cases.

You do not make one credible statement in this entire diatribe. If you have so much "knowledge" of how he is screwing us over, please cite RELIABLE sources and facts.
Yeah...I thought his "they will call me if they need me"
comment really brought that point home. LOL.
[sigh...] I meant "they" went, not "then". nm
NM
The reason "they" have their houses paid off - sm
is that they worked hard, were frugal, did not use credit cards unless they could pay the balance each month, did not buy a car for everyone in the family, did not have a TV in every room, did not have cell phones, their kids did not have all the latest "toys", and, yes, "they" are eligible for Medicare because they EARNED it. And they did all this on salaries that were just enough to get by on. How do I know this? My parents are a shining example.
I really agree with you, but since "they" have not extended the hadn across the aisle,......sm
so to speak, I felt that SOMEONE has to, we have to get this thinking ingrained and replacing this old, worn-out, stupid arcaic partison bullying and namecalling, and SOMEONE has to be the bigger person...why not an old Democrat like me??? :-) but I truly believe what I am saying also, friend!
I refer you to what was said

previously by Sam:


"She was the mayor and her constituents were concerned about some questionable books in the library. In a meeting with the council she brought up that concern. According to that same Alaskan (Kilkenny, a Democrat, go figure), the same one who wrote the email cutting her to ribbons and one of the points was "She has hated me since 1992"....the first time she described the issue it was "I remember she brought up something about some books in the library but she never took it anywhere." Now, since she is running for VP, it has become "She tried to ban books!" Typical political crap. She was doing her job. Constituents brought her concerns and she brought those concerns to the council. "


I refer you to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state

Thomas Jefferson argued for the freedom you note, but also of secularity of state. Your god is your business and can occupy whatever part of *your* life you like, but it has no business in my face.


Help me find what you refer to...
I am trying to figure you what you meant by Beyond Belief. I went to the website and searched under Berlin speech but nothing came up. I am interested to know what you are trying to say. What did you read that gave you this reaction?
please refer to the post at the top...
I counted at least THREE refundable tax credits, including one which will eliminate federal taxes for low income families.


I am not the same poster to whom you refer.
If you smell anything, it would be "hypocrisy" not "hypocracy." Misspelled words are underlined in red for a reason!

By the way, the hateful, bitter, low-class spew on this board has been provided courtesy of the red-neck, Bible-thumping, bigoted, right-wing posters. They are the ones who have shown their true colors.
Linda, since I did not refer to you by name sm
I can only assume that you are including yourself in the group to which I referred, but I do think that those people know who they are, so as the old saying goes "if the shoe fits".  Personally, I don't feel any of your comments were hateful, so don't take it personally unless "the shoe fits". 
You refer to being nasty, yet you state...
"I could give a flying crap." Personally, I find that offensive and feel that you are a big part of the problem.
Please refer to mine and give me
relative to your double standard.
Please refer to LVMT post on neoconservatism

You will have to scroll down a bit to find it.  It kind of got lost in the debris of all the other posts.  I think it is a very valuable piece of information and addresses a topic that gets brought up frequently by the posters on the other board and is something I was unclear about until I read this.


Thanks for your research!!


I refer to minimum wage workers because...
This type of work normally paid minimum wage.  I, however, did not...
Our hatred? Please refer to post above by your compassionate left
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One does not refer to people as "Joe Six Pack" - it's disgusting!!!
nm
Refer to the post below where Bush has pretty much doubled the money
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Please refer me to any post where I referred to either the post...
or the poster as ignorant. And I certainly never sunk to the levels you did at the top of the post, against a man who is ill in a wheelchair. Pot calling the kettle black...?