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Here is a link to a page regarding his take on the issues.
You can click on any item in this list and read his views. http://www.votenader.org/issues/
Here is a link to a tea party page.
http://newamericanteaparty.com/
sorry the link didn't work - its on MSN front page today
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29697096
I did, and found what I remembered, that's why I posted the link. nm
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Hi, Your llink did not show up, only 'page not found.' so I post my link inside...sm
NewsWorld newsIran
Tehran braces for crackdown as protesters vow to defy KhameneiSupreme leader warns Mousavi supporters against bloodshed
guardian.co.uk, Friday 19 June 2009
Iran's opposition faces a critical test of resolve and the country an uncertain future tomorrow after the Islamic regime's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a blunt warning to those involved in mass protests over last week's "stolen" presidential election that they would "bear the responsibility" for any bloodshed.
Khamenei rejected accusations of fraud in the poll, confirmed the incumbent, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, as the winner, and gave no ground to the millions of Iranians demanding their votes back.
Mir Hossein Mousavi, who claims he beat Ahmadinejad in the race, was said by an ally to have no plans for unauthorised rallies tomorrow following the warning, but supporters vowed to go on protesting.
Fears grew tonight of an intensifying crackdown on media and opposition activists. Students at the fine arts faculty of Tehran University – where scores of students were injured and some reported killed after raids by security forces earlier this week – announced an indefinite sit-in starting tomorrow.
Khamenei's closely watched speech at prayers at Tehran University could hardly have been tougher. It had been hoped he might adopt a more conciliatory tone that would help defuse the gathering crisis, the worst in Iran's 30-year post-revolutionary history. But he warned: "If there is any bloodshed, the leaders of the protests will be held directly responsible. The result of the election comes from the ballot box, not from the street. Today the Iranian nation needs calm."
Tens of thousands of worshippers cheered as he told them: "It is your victory. They cannot manipulate it."
Mousavi, a moderate former prime minister whose "green" movement scared the regime with the support it was attracting, ignored a call to attend the prayer meeting and now faces a dilemma over his next step. Ignoring Khamenei's message risks bloodshed on a far larger scale than the eight people killed last week. Accepting it means surrender to the regime.
The reformist cleric Mehdi Karroubi, another candidate for the presidency, added to the pressure tonight by also calling for the election to be annulled. "Accept the Iranian nation's will by cancelling the vote and guarantee the establishment's survival," he urged.
Khamenei attacked opponents at home but also lambasted Iran's enemies abroad in hardline remarks that bode ill for any opening to the US, where Barack Obama is seeking talks to tackle worries over Iran's nuclear ambitions.
Britain was attacked as "the most evil", but the US, Israel and "Zionist-controlled" media were also abused, as was Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state. "The enemies are targeting the Islamic establishment's legitimacy by questioning the election and its authenticity before and after [the vote]," said Khamenei.
The speech underlined the sense of profound crisis, since the supreme leader usually only speaks in public at the end of Ramadan and on the anniversary of the 1979 revolution.
Analysts and commentators were dismayed by its implications. Sadegh Saba, chief analyst for BBC Persian TV, said: "Mousavi wants the protests to continue but Khamenei is saying if they do there might be bloodshed – and it will be on your hands."
Issa Saharkhiz, a Tehran-based pro-reformist commentator, said Khamenei's speech had transformed the crisis from a conflict over the election result into a trial of his own political authority, which was now being openly questioned. "Now the issue is that the supreme leader's sense of justice, management and competence is under question," he told Deutsche Welle. "The leadership of the country cannot be left in the hands of such a person, who for the sake of preserving himself and his own power, threatens people with mass murder."
Crucially, Khamenei ruled out any cheating in the election, apparently dashing hopes that a partial recount ordered by the guardian council, a supervisory body of senior clerics, will mitigate the crisis.
Khamenei's call for Mousavi and Karroubi to confine their protests to legal avenues prompted mockery. "This means that Imam Hossein [the third most revered figure in Shia Islam], instead of making a last stand at Karbala, [should have] pursued his grievances through the legal process," one blogger said on the Farsi blogsite Balatarin.
Balatarin was flooded with messages voicing outrage at Khamenei's warning that opposition leaders would be held responsible for further unrest and bloodshed. One correspondent wrote: "Mr Khamenei, the direct responsibility for any damage to people's lives or property from now on lies with you."
In Washington, the House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly to condemn Tehran's crackdown on demonstrators. It was the strongest message yet to Iran.
Thanks for link (just now getting back here). No message.
This was a great link and fun to do - see message
My #1 match is Chuck Baldwin (constitution party) 55.32% Hooray! Good to know I really am an independent. My second match was McCain at 44.68%, then Bob Barr (Libertarian)at 40.43%. Next was Ralph Nader, then Obama. Loved it, glad to know that Socialism is way down on my list.
Oops - forgot the link in my last message - sm
Here it is...
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/BG928.cfm
I meant to post this link in the original message
Really connects the dots
http://patterico.com/2008/09/25/the-annenberg-foundationobamafactcheckbrady-center-connection/
Each one opens
Click the black titles. That takes you to Thursday's (today's) articles. Go half-way down to see the stories from Wednesday, which are the Catholic ones. Next to those are the stories from Tuesday.
WorldNetDaily is very reputable and can always be checked for accuracy. It looks like only 1 or 2 other people even know about it around here.
You can tell as soon as she opens her mouth
I can already see through McCain's tricks. He will play the "too harsh on the little lady" game when it comes to anything to do with Palin. I say he disrespects women because of he didn't care enough to pick a qualified candidate, just selected one he throught may rouse the dems. If he really had respect for women, he would have picked a much, much better woman than Sarah Palin, one who has much more experience and one who "takes care of things at home first."
Obama is articulate; McCain is the same; are you not seeing that?
I hope it opens up the way for.........sm
discussion of the ISSUES rather than the candidates. Like gourdpainter says, I went straight to the horse's mouth.....though I doubt my friend would appreciate me referring to her as a horse! LOL
Every time he opens his big yap...
the market responds. Oh, and he put that bozo Biden in charge of overseeing the stimulus implementation. This is getting GOOD!
Biden is such an bonehead. He is definitely cringe worthy everytime he opens his mouth. nm
PP
CBS has taken the page down. Probably...
had a lot of complaints.
EVERY page, lol!
:)
Go to the top of the page for the ...
refundable language everyone has been looking for.
Looks like we were on exactly the same page! :-) nm
Second page...(sm)
about the 4th topic down starts under the subject of *Link to Comm...* I've done a lot worse than that...LOL
Down the page is an even more
upsetting one that I read. The Vets are fighting to keep a cross in memory of all who lost their lives on a piece of property that used to be federal land. It was traded for acreage that the vets owned.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Legal/Default.aspx?id=564946
This page alone looks like there are more conservative.sm
posts on here than liberal, if not the number would be pretty darn close.
page has been removed...wonder why?
nm
I'm on the page, I'm looking at the result
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx
OP said Likely voters 49/47. That's what it states. You can decide to pick and choose which ones you want, but drudge said of likely voters 49/47. That is what OP said. Also OP said "for anyone who believes in polls". The dems are all are so he!! bent on choosing only what benefits Obama. This poll still benefits Obama so what's the problem. Yes you can still site the other two which are not a true representation but they are 49/43 and 51/45. You are still only talking about a 6 point lead. That is not a heck of a large lead to claim victory. When there are still about 3 weeks to go.
Man I hope McCain wins then I'll come back and listen to you all whine. The race is not over yet. If Obama wins I will not be happy, but I will come on and admit I was wrong, but if McCain wins prepare for the other.
Oh ye of little faith. Go to the top of the page.
nm
See new string top page one
pertaining to all this.
900 page bill
Hyperbole, anyone? Seriously, if the bill itself is 900 pages long, then how could the Republicans have added "thousands of pages of amendments" to it so it wouldn't pass? Unless you're talking Obama Math, of course....
Have you seen the neocon think tank's web page?sm
This is who supplies Bush with most of his ideas. Take a look at the PNAC's members list.
www.newamericancentury.org
Also, take a look at:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
Their plan is for super power and extensive wars. Lebanon is simply a pretext to invading Iran,just like they used 911 to invade Afghanistan (but really wanted to attack Iraq not for WMD but for their energy resources). Doing a little more research you will also find the USA Patriot Act was written before 9-11.
That is actually a political humor web page. sm
http://buckfush.com/
Ah....what page is if you can't refute, ridicule?
They employ that one as well. Often. lol.
No, the virus didn't come from this page - it came
link you type in takes you to. So typing it in would make no difference. There is a LOT of malware out there, and it comes in all shapes, forms, and disguises.
It's on Fox News' front page
right now. That makes it true then, right?
The table appears way, way down on the page.
Please pay special attention to the years 1932 to 1981. Thanks.
What about Obama's 1 page medical
1200 pages? Why don't you want to see his?
Interesting two page article...
Obama Surfs Through.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/11/12/palin/
post the link only, not the whole article and the link. See rules for posting.
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this is crazy, it brings me to another MT stars page
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7267.shtml
Just taking a page out of sam's lesson plan.
nm
The boyfriend's My Space page disappeared too. nm
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This started out as a three-page document....as of yesterday....sm
It was up to 103 pages long. The dems added everything but the kitchen sink, and we don't know the half of what they added, and tried to change around.
Wasn't that a front-page headline in the
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I guess nobody would agree to print a blank page. (NT)
:-)
Hate to break this to you, but the male page thing....
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nice... i think im gonna post it on my myspace page!
this election is soooo important!
If y'all have a lot of time to read a 450 page report,
check this out. It has some interesting info: Part 1 is a synopsis and most interesting is pages 8,9,10, and 11. I got as far as Pt. 3 and there is a table of contents on the first few pages to explain everything that is in that part of the report.
"Vol. 1, Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq's WMD."
http://www.foia.cia.gov/search.asp?pageNumber=1&freqReqRecord=undefined&refinedText=undefined&freqSearchText=undefined&txtSearch=911&exactPhrase=undefined&allWords=undefined&anyWords=undefined&withoutWords=undefined&documentNumber=undefined&startCreatedMonth=&startCreatedDay=&startCreatedYear=&endCreatedMonth=&endCreatedDay=&endCreatedYear=0&startReleasedMonth=&startReleasedDay=&startReleasedYear=&endReleasedMonth=&endReleasedDay=&endReleasedYear=0&sortOrder=DESC
The Sweet Jesus I Hate Bill O'Reilly page sm
is a great idea. O'Reilly, Hannity, Coulter, and Malkin are at the top of my list for rabid vermin. There are some other great links there too, some funny.
Administrator: Someone is filling our board with drug ad posts on page 3.
Hmm - none on the conservative board. Extreme Right wing conspiracy?
Gee, it's funny how you guys can go to page 11 to prove a point or hurl accusations.
The debate, actually several of them were with Lurker and are probably on page 2 or 3. The person you speak of whom you saw was not debating, she was trolling and causing trouble. THAT isn't debate, but maybe we have just solved the problem. You think it is debate. Well there you go!
What I found so far
I see where Perle and Rice take exception to some of his statements, but that's all I could find. And I guess that would expected as they do have to protect themselves. Also, it's very hard to find opinions that do not have a noticeable right or left slant. If anyone out there has suggestions on middle-of-the-road, non-politically-sided information sites please let me know.
My point was how many people have to step forward and report that the White House manipulated the truth before it gets addressed? How many can you dismiss as saying they had a book to sell, or they were protecting their careers, etc.? At what point does some of what they are saying (Clark, Tenet, Powell to name a few) become believable?
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