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The boyfriend's My Space page disappeared too. nm

Posted By: oldtimer on 2008-09-09
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No fight. Just looking for space and issues.
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Can't find the space. Our threads get buried
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My mom's boyfriend used to take me

to the local high school where they had a firing range and taught me to shoot all calibers of handguns. I couldn't handle the 44 Magnum, though. Too heavy.


Anyway, he did it because DH was going to be away for 3 months and he thought I might need protection. I was a good shot, too. Hit the bull's eye quite a few times. I took all the targets home and taped them to my windows and doors with a little sign "This may happen to you if you enter without permission." Never had a problem.


I wish he would have willed me a handgun, or else given me one. I really liked the snubnose 38. I want to get one, but can't afford it. . . .and by the way, I WOULD use it if necessary. Better them than me.


It disappeared? I wonder how that happened.
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That's because it conveniently disappeared.

From the Associated Press:


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iRxZox4GFoIweckPDP1oRhKBlHOwD94CDDM80


Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship



WASHINGTON (AP) — A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist dictatorship.


"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."


Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.


"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."


Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado in which he called for expanding the nation's foreign service.


"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."


The Obama transition team declined to comment on Broun's remarks. But spokesman Tommy Vietor said Obama was referring in the speech to a proposal for a civilian reserve corps that could handle postwar reconstruction efforts such as rebuilding infrastructure — an idea endorsed by the Bush administration.


Broun said he believes Obama would move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national security force.


Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally.


"We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential of going down that road."


I know. It's heartbreaking. My ex-boyfriend's...

son was born with Agent Orange.  He's extremely mentally challenged and has a severe cleft palate.  He is the sweetest boy with the biggest heart, and I'm very grateful for having had the privilege of knowing him.


Vietnam vets got treated very badly by America on many fronts.  At least, hopefully Americans have learned a lesson by separating the politics of the war from the soldiers themselves.  Any time I meet a "Nam vet," the first thing I say is, "Welcome home."  Just those two words bring tears to their eyes frequently.


We've (I hope) gotten smarter and realize these soldiers are putting their lives on the line for us, and it's the Commander-in-Chief who is ultimately to blame (or praise) for the orders given to these soldiers.


Here is article, it disappeared from the above post.
Before 9/11 the Federal Emergency Management Agency listed the three most likely catastrophic disasters facing America: a terrorist attack on New York, a major earthquake in San Francisco and a hurricane strike on New Orleans. The New Orleans hurricane scenario, The Houston Chronicle wrote in December 2001, may be the deadliest of all. It described a potential catastrophe very much like the one now happening.
So why were New Orleans and the nation so unprepared? After 9/11, hard questions were deferred in the name of national unity, then buried under a thick coat of whitewash. This time, we need accountability.

First question: Why have aid and security taken so long to arrive? Katrina hit five days ago - and it was already clear by last Friday that Katrina could do immense damage along the Gulf Coast. Yet the response you'd expect from an advanced country never happened. Thousands of Americans are dead or dying, not because they refused to evacuate, but because they were too poor or too sick to get out without help - and help wasn't provided. Many have yet to receive any help at all.

There will and should be many questions about the response of state and local governments; in particular, couldn't they have done more to help the poor and sick escape? But the evidence points, above all, to a stunning lack of both preparation and urgency in the federal government's response.

Even military resources in the right place weren't ordered into action. On Wednesday, said an editorial in The Sun Herald in Biloxi, Miss., reporters listening to horrific stories of death and survival at the Biloxi Junior High School shelter looked north across Irish Hill Road and saw Air Force personnel playing basketball and performing calisthenics. Playing basketball and performing calisthenics!

Maybe administration officials believed that the local National Guard could keep order and deliver relief. But many members of the National Guard and much of its equipment - including high-water vehicles - are in Iraq. The National Guard needs that equipment back home to support the homeland security mission, a Louisiana Guard officer told reporters several weeks ago.

Second question: Why wasn't more preventive action taken? After 2003 the Army Corps of Engineers sharply slowed its flood-control work, including work on sinking levees. The corps, an Editor and Publisher article says, citing a series of articles in The Times-Picayune in New Orleans, never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security - coming at the same time as federal tax cuts - was the reason for the strain.

In 2002 the corps' chief resigned, reportedly under threat of being fired, after he criticized the administration's proposed cuts in the corps' budget, including flood-control spending.

Third question: Did the Bush administration destroy FEMA's effectiveness? The administration has, by all accounts, treated the emergency management agency like an unwanted stepchild, leading to a mass exodus of experienced professionals.

Last year James Lee Witt, who won bipartisan praise for his leadership of the agency during the Clinton years, said at a Congressional hearing: I am extremely concerned that the ability of our nation to prepare for and respond to disasters has been sharply eroded. I hear from emergency managers, local and state leaders, and first responders nearly every day that the FEMA they knew and worked well with has now disappeared.

I don't think this is a simple tale of incompetence. The reason the military wasn't rushed in to help along the Gulf Coast is, I believe, the same reason nothing was done to stop looting after the fall of Baghdad. Flood control was neglected for the same reason our troops in Iraq didn't get adequate armor.

At a fundamental level, I'd argue, our current leaders just aren't serious about some of the essential functions of government. They like waging war, but they don't like providing security, rescuing those in need or spending on preventive measures. And they never, ever ask for shared sacrifice.

Yesterday Mr. Bush made an utterly fantastic claim: that nobody expected the breach of the levees. In fact, there had been repeated warnings about exactly that risk.

So America, once famous for its can-do attitude, now has a can't-do government that makes excuses instead of doing its job. And while it makes those excuses, Americans are dying.

© 2005 New York Times

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The middle class has already all but disappeared under...sm
republican rule. Based on earnings, we have a huge lower class, a very small middle class, and a tiny upper class that makes over 90% of the income in the US.
No boyfriend sleepovers for parents in Michigan...sm
Dad Pans Girlfriend Sleepover Ban

DETROIT, Dec. 22, 2005










 (AP / CBS)


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This antiquated law allows the state to unconstitutionally interfere with a parent's relationship with his or her children.




Kary Moss, executive director, ACLU of Michigan



(AP) A divorced father will fight a ruling that keeps his girlfriend away from their Michigan home when his children visit overnight, the state chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union said Wednesday.

The ACLU said it would appeal to the state Supreme Court on behalf of Christian Muller, whose ex-wife sought the court order based on an 1838 state law that makes lewd and lascivious cohabitation a crime. Michigan is one of only seven states with such a law on the books, the ACLU said.

This antiquated law allows the state to unconstitutionally interfere with a parent's relationship with his or her children, said Kary Moss, executive director of the ACLU of Michigan.

Muller shares legal custody of his two daughters, ages 5 and 7, with his former wife, Nicolette Muller.

Oakland County Judge Daniel Patrick O'Brien ordered that both parents be prohibited from having overnight visitation with their children when they have unrelated overnight guests of the opposite sex.

The latest appeal argues that the Court of Appeals decision conflicts with its prior rulings and with the Child Custody Act of 1970, and relies on an unconstitutional statute — the 1838 state law.

Elizabeth Silverman, an attorney who had represented Nicolette Muller, said Wednesday her services had not been retained for the latest appeal.

A home telephone number could not be found for Nicolette Muller, who lives in southeastern Michigan.

I feel sorry for her poor boyfriend - how do you spell
Her poor daughter probably wouldn't be in the preggers predicament if mamma had taught her about birth control instead of 'abstinence'.
Looks like he is down one woman now that Carly Fiorina has disappeared. nm
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It's funny how half of this thread just disappeared
Makes you wonder....
The boyfriend never graduated high school.
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Aww dang it! I looove polar bears. My boyfriend will fix that too! nm
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Three months after birth of baby Trip, SP's daughter and boyfriend kaput!
Now did anyone see that coming or is that just something out of the blue? My goodness, would have never believed that. They really seemed like good heads on their shoulders, graduates, college bound, career-minded, responsible. Really shocking to me.
Huh? Even the reference disappeared! (Twilight Zone music plays). 1984. nm
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CBS has taken the page down. Probably...
had a lot of complaints.
EVERY page, lol!
:)
Go to the top of the page for the ...
refundable language everyone has been looking for.
Looks like we were on exactly the same page! :-) nm

Second page...(sm)
about the 4th topic down starts under the subject of *Link to Comm...*  I've done a lot worse than that...LOL
Down the page is an even more

upsetting one that I read. The Vets are fighting to keep a cross in memory of all who lost their lives on a piece of property that used to be federal land. It was traded for acreage that the vets owned.


 


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Legal/Default.aspx?id=564946


This page alone looks like there are more conservative.sm
posts on here than liberal, if not the number would be pretty darn close.
page has been removed...wonder why?
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I'm on the page, I'm looking at the result
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

OP said Likely voters 49/47. That's what it states. You can decide to pick and choose which ones you want, but drudge said of likely voters 49/47. That is what OP said. Also OP said "for anyone who believes in polls". The dems are all are so he!! bent on choosing only what benefits Obama. This poll still benefits Obama so what's the problem. Yes you can still site the other two which are not a true representation but they are 49/43 and 51/45. You are still only talking about a 6 point lead. That is not a heck of a large lead to claim victory. When there are still about 3 weeks to go.

Man I hope McCain wins then I'll come back and listen to you all whine. The race is not over yet. If Obama wins I will not be happy, but I will come on and admit I was wrong, but if McCain wins prepare for the other.
Oh ye of little faith. Go to the top of the page.
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says page could not be found???
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See new string top page one
pertaining to all this.
900 page bill

Hyperbole, anyone? Seriously, if the bill itself is 900 pages long, then how could the Republicans have added "thousands of pages of amendments" to it so it wouldn't pass? Unless you're talking Obama Math, of course....


Have you seen the neocon think tank's web page?sm
This is who supplies Bush with most of his ideas. Take a look at the PNAC's members list.
www.newamericancentury.org

Also, take a look at:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Their plan is for super power and extensive wars. Lebanon is simply a pretext to invading Iran,just like they used 911 to invade Afghanistan (but really wanted to attack Iraq not for WMD but for their energy resources). Doing a little more research you will also find the USA Patriot Act was written before 9-11.
That is actually a political humor web page. sm
http://buckfush.com/
Ah....what page is if you can't refute, ridicule?
They employ that one as well. Often. lol.
Here is a link to a page regarding his take on the issues.
You can click on any item in this list and read his views. http://www.votenader.org/issues/
No, the virus didn't come from this page - it came
link you type in takes you to. So typing it in would make no difference. There is a LOT of malware out there, and it comes in all shapes, forms, and disguises.
It's on Fox News' front page
right now. That makes it true then, right?
The table appears way, way down on the page.
Please pay special attention to the years 1932 to 1981. Thanks.
What about Obama's 1 page medical
1200 pages? Why don't you want to see his?
Interesting two page article...

Obama Surfs Through.


http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/11/12/palin/


Here is a link to a tea party page.
http://newamericanteaparty.com/
this is crazy, it brings me to another MT stars page
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7267.shtml
Just taking a page out of sam's lesson plan.
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This started out as a three-page document....as of yesterday....sm
It was up to 103 pages long. The dems added everything but the kitchen sink, and we don't know the half of what they added, and tried to change around.


Wasn't that a front-page headline in the
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I guess nobody would agree to print a blank page. (NT)
:-)
Hate to break this to you, but the male page thing....
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nice... i think im gonna post it on my myspace page!
this election is soooo important!
Link opens to a message that says the page cannot be found.
Do you have another link to this page?
If y'all have a lot of time to read a 450 page report,

check this out. It has some interesting info: Part 1 is a synopsis and most interesting is pages 8,9,10, and 11. I got as far as Pt. 3 and there is a table of contents on the first few pages to explain everything that is in that part of the report.


"Vol. 1, Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq's WMD."


http://www.foia.cia.gov/search.asp?pageNumber=1&freqReqRecord=undefined&refinedText=undefined&freqSearchText=undefined&txtSearch=911&exactPhrase=undefined&allWords=undefined&anyWords=undefined&withoutWords=undefined&documentNumber=undefined&startCreatedMonth=&startCreatedDay=&startCreatedYear=&endCreatedMonth=&endCreatedDay=&endCreatedYear=0&startReleasedMonth=&startReleasedDay=&startReleasedYear=&endReleasedMonth=&endReleasedDay=&endReleasedYear=0&sortOrder=DESC


The Sweet Jesus I Hate Bill O'Reilly page sm
is a great idea. O'Reilly, Hannity, Coulter, and Malkin are at the top of my list for rabid vermin. There are some other great links there too, some funny.
Administrator: Someone is filling our board with drug ad posts on page 3.
Hmm - none on the conservative board.  Extreme Right wing conspiracy?