Gee, it's funny how you guys can go to page 11 to prove a point or hurl accusations.
Posted By: - on 2005-09-23
In Reply to: Just peeked in on the Conservative board, looking for some *nice debates* - Libby
The debate, actually several of them were with Lurker and are probably on page 2 or 3. The person you speak of whom you saw was not debating, she was trolling and causing trouble. THAT isn't debate, but maybe we have just solved the problem. You think it is debate. Well there you go!
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Funny, you never defended her accusations against me
When she accused me of having multiple personalities/monikers on this board. IMHO freedom of speech includes not having to speak to those you don't wish to. Obviously I am not the only one who feels this way.
Once again...you prove my point.
liberals are NOT about tolerance. There is nothing but INtolerance in your post...you, my friend, are a bigot. Only it is not a race, it is a belief system. "right wing rags" is NOT an example of tolerance of someone else's viewpoint. It is obvious for anyone who would care to, to see. Attack, attack, attack. If you are not like me, go away. I am not interested in another point of view,nor am I interested in debating any points.
You say equality, you say tolerance, you say no bigotry. Yet you do not tolerate opposition, you want to quell dissent, and you discriminate against conservatives.
Which leaves me with the impression that your lofty ideals are just that. Because you do NOT practice them. NOW I understand what the other liberal poster meant when they posted there are no true liberals in the Democratic party. Amen to that, poster, wherever you are!
You prove my point. Thank you. nm
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you prove my point so well
Hindsight is 20/20. If we would not have allowed millions of people to buy houses that could not afford them, we would not be here. If we would have decided that subprime loans were unstable and that a person should actually be required to be able to pay for what they want and be able to afford what their dream is, we would not be here. America has adopted the mentality somewhere along the way that equality shouldnt be just about race or religion but about everyone having the right to the same things in life. People have a false sense of entitlement. These people that have helped our ecomony fail are the ones who have been living in a manner they should not have been. This starts with the people who can work but dont. The people who feed off of the states and have children for a business but do nothing to give back to the economy. They are takers. It also goes to the CEOs and the loan officers and the banks and all the big guys who have decided that it was okay to make billions off of the people in our society who are sponges and are willing to take any handout given to them, even if it means failure down the road. They have made their fortunues based off of greed and lies. They built us a false ecomony. So if there are no jobs now and no credit to be had, you can thank them. Problem is Obama wants to give to the takers and make us pay, the exact people who have done the right things, lived the way they should within their means, and the very working people who build our ecomony. How is an new, strong economy going to be built off of welfare recipients who have never worked? What economic stimulation are they going to offer? It is simply crazy to me and I cannot see how people refuse to see this.
you guys are so funny
You conservatives crack me up..You are on the liberal board, reading liberal information and you just cant help yourself, you attack liberal posts on the liberal board..That is too funny. And that rabid dog *Rep* keeps posting on my posts, even though I told the person I will no longer read posts from *Rep*. You guys just cant stop it, can ya? I know times are scary for republicans right now and it is just eating away at you all. It is laughable.
You continue to prove my point. (nm)
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You continue to prove my point.
I guess we're going to have another 9/11 to prove our point
because your little mind doesn't even remember the first one. You guys need to give it up, because your lilly livered thought processes are losing. Nobody wants you all in charge that's why you keep LOSING ELECTIONS...that's because if you were in charge you would be hugging Muslim terrorists and telling them it's okay and that you understand them.
You can argue semantics of bills all day, but it doesn't make the fact of the dying liberal theology any less of a reality.
Just to prove my point, from Crooks and Liars website. sm
Joe Scarborough: Republicans want him to SHUT UP
On Joe's show tonight, he went off on Republicans that do not like him speaking out against this administration's handling of Katrina.
Joe: I'm getting lectured from Republicans in Oregon, California, upstate New York, Arizona telling me I need to back off the President, I need to back off of FEMA, I need to back off these state leaders. You and I are on the Gulf Coast- we know how these things are supposed to be run. This has nothing to do with politics...
Video-WMP
Video-QT
The Republicans are obviously worried that this Republican talk show host's point of view isn't following their talking points and is a real problem because he's not a Democrat saying them. Joe has been honest before (Schiavo not included) and is simply exposing their ineptitude that so many people are feeling right now.
Notice how I did't hand-pick text to prove a point.
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Mostly accusations
just because somebody perceives it was a scandal does not make it so...
false accusations
You know, back in the late 1990's, I belonged to a political group and there was one person who started off posting okay, as the hours went on, her posts grew more and more illogical, like how yours do. Well, when I finally befriended her, she confided she was an alcoholic and when she first sat down, she was okay, as she drank, her posts did not make sense. Kind of like your posts. I have told you over and over, I NEVER wished rotting in hell to anyone on any of these boards, I wish it still for Bush and all that got us into this never-ending war against *terrorism*. Then you state I called the three cohorts three stooges, nope, not me. The thing that cracks me up, is the proof is in the pudding. The posts are here for anyone to read and see that your accusations are false. So, why dont you just put that bottle down, its only gonna give you major organ damage in the long run. A nice cup of green tea can be just as relaxing.
Enough of the socialism accusations
Here's you link expanded.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
1. Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.
2. a: A system of society or group living in which there is no private property. b: A system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3. A stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.
Notice that socialism is predicated on the concept of collective/governmental ownership of private property. Here are a couple of links for you. Looks like Obama is pretty much into private ownership. The list below is of title to various economic stimulus plans. They pretty much seem to be centered around free enterprise concepts. Now show me your links where Obama has indicated abolishing private ownership and replacing it with government collective ownership, if you don't mind.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/
“I believe that America's free market has been the engine of America's great progress. It's created a prosperity that is the envy of the world. It's led to a standard of living unmatched in history. And it has provided great rewards to the innovators and risk-takers who have made America a beacon for science, and technology, and discovery. We are all in this together. From CEOs to shareholders, from financiers to factory workers, we all have a stake in each other's success because the more Americans prosper, the more America prospers.”— Barack Obama, New York, NY, September 17, 2007
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#home-ownership
Plan to Protect Homeownership and Crack Down on Mortgage Fraud.
Create a New FHA Housing Security Program
Create a Universal Mortgage Credit
Ensure More Accountability in the Subprime Mortgage Industry
Mandate Accurate Loan Disclosure
Create Fund to Help Homeowners Avoid Foreclosures
Close Bankruptcy Loophole for Mortgage Companies
Establish a $10 billion Foreclosure Prevention Fund
Provide $10 billion in Relief for State and Local Governments Hardest-Hit by the Housing Crisis to Prevent Cuts in Vital Services
Invest in our Next Generation Innovators and Job Creators
Double Funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership/Job creation
Invest In A Clean Energy Economy And Create 5 Million New Green Jobs
Create New Job Training Programs for Clean Technologies
Boost the Renewable Energy Sector and Create New Jobs
Provide Tax Relief for Small Businesses and Start Up Companies
Raise the Minimum Wage
Expand the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit
There are many more examples but I just got tired of cut and paste.
O has some bad friends. Not accusations,
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Their accusations as empty as their heads.
That was how they managed to cow the opposition on the other board, Reader - by initiating shocking personal attacks, maybe you recall that if you were there.
But I totally agree with you, you can't fend off a pack of snarling wolves with toy gun - predictable that that is what they WISH we would do . You can't be courteous to them because they see that as a sign of weakness and take it as the signal to go in for the kill. Then they call you hateful if you point out what a lawless and opportunistic group they really are.
Evidently these tiresome accusations
Ever get the feeling you are being tuned out? Boy cries wolf once too often?
Iran's meddling accusations....sm
I disagree TOTALLY with your suggestion how O should have reacted to the ongoing protests, I quote from your psot:
'Yes, it would have been better if he had just said ANYthing just a wee bit strong...hey Mahmoud...couldn't you just stop beating the crap out of protestors in front of the TV cameras? Bad form old boy. Makes you look bad.'
Bad tactic and bad advice.
Sounds like 'cowboy-jargon' to me.
BTW, read the accusations of the Iranian government, although Obama stayed passive and restraint:
'The Iranian government has directly accused the United States of meddling in the deepening crisis. A statement by state-run Press TV blamed Washington for "intolerable" interference.
The report, on Press TV, cited no evidence.'
Phoney outrage over baseless, debunked accusations
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CBS has taken the page down. Probably...
had a lot of complaints.
EVERY page, lol!
:)
Go to the top of the page for the ...
refundable language everyone has been looking for.
Looks like we were on exactly the same page! :-) nm
Second page...(sm)
about the 4th topic down starts under the subject of *Link to Comm...* I've done a lot worse than that...LOL
Down the page is an even more
upsetting one that I read. The Vets are fighting to keep a cross in memory of all who lost their lives on a piece of property that used to be federal land. It was traded for acreage that the vets owned.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Legal/Default.aspx?id=564946
This page alone looks like there are more conservative.sm
posts on here than liberal, if not the number would be pretty darn close.
page has been removed...wonder why?
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I'm on the page, I'm looking at the result
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx
OP said Likely voters 49/47. That's what it states. You can decide to pick and choose which ones you want, but drudge said of likely voters 49/47. That is what OP said. Also OP said "for anyone who believes in polls". The dems are all are so he!! bent on choosing only what benefits Obama. This poll still benefits Obama so what's the problem. Yes you can still site the other two which are not a true representation but they are 49/43 and 51/45. You are still only talking about a 6 point lead. That is not a heck of a large lead to claim victory. When there are still about 3 weeks to go.
Man I hope McCain wins then I'll come back and listen to you all whine. The race is not over yet. If Obama wins I will not be happy, but I will come on and admit I was wrong, but if McCain wins prepare for the other.
Oh ye of little faith. Go to the top of the page.
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says page could not be found???
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See new string top page one
pertaining to all this.
900 page bill
Hyperbole, anyone? Seriously, if the bill itself is 900 pages long, then how could the Republicans have added "thousands of pages of amendments" to it so it wouldn't pass? Unless you're talking Obama Math, of course....
Have you seen the neocon think tank's web page?sm
This is who supplies Bush with most of his ideas. Take a look at the PNAC's members list.
www.newamericancentury.org
Also, take a look at:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
Their plan is for super power and extensive wars. Lebanon is simply a pretext to invading Iran,just like they used 911 to invade Afghanistan (but really wanted to attack Iraq not for WMD but for their energy resources). Doing a little more research you will also find the USA Patriot Act was written before 9-11.
That is actually a political humor web page. sm
http://buckfush.com/
Ah....what page is if you can't refute, ridicule?
They employ that one as well. Often. lol.
Here is a link to a page regarding his take on the issues.
You can click on any item in this list and read his views. http://www.votenader.org/issues/
No, the virus didn't come from this page - it came
link you type in takes you to. So typing it in would make no difference. There is a LOT of malware out there, and it comes in all shapes, forms, and disguises.
It's on Fox News' front page
right now. That makes it true then, right?
The table appears way, way down on the page.
Please pay special attention to the years 1932 to 1981. Thanks.
What about Obama's 1 page medical
1200 pages? Why don't you want to see his?
Interesting two page article...
Obama Surfs Through.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/11/12/palin/
Here is a link to a tea party page.
http://newamericanteaparty.com/
I know he has nothing to prove to you....
but to the 48% of us who don't trust him, he does. I will believe it when I see it. There is nothing in his past to indicate he wants to wipe out party lines, unless that means bring us ALL into HIS light. His entire career has been hard left towing the party line. His votes have all been hard left toeing the party line. And now he wants us to believe that all disappears? He has undergone some miraculous change himself? I would feel better if he used the word "compromise" as much as he used the word "unite." All "unite" means to me is that he wants everyone to come to his side. His entire agenda is diametrically opposed to most of what I believe in. How is he going to "unite" people like him and people like me if he doesn't compromise?
Like I said...I am waiting to see what he does. He said himself he had to earn my trust. So far he is not doing so well. That could "change." Only time will tell.
BTW, this is not an attack. It is just my open and honest concerns about the POTUS. Concerns about any POTUS. I would have held McCain's feet to the fire too. He was certainly not my ideal candidate...but he beat the alternative. Now that the alternative has won...he has to prove himself to me and 48% of the country.
prove it.
Where is your proof that satan does not exist? Where is your proof that the Bible is a fairytale? Where is your proof that Jesus doesnt exist? Until you can show me some proof, this is just your opinion and doesnt really mean much or hold any water.
You would have to prove a ............. sm
genetic predisposition for this to be logical. Even if you did prove such a theory, the fact that a person has a particular gene does not necessarily mean that that gene will develop into a behavior.
Prove it
Yes he had to use Air Force 1 I think he and the Secret Service would look a little conspicuous on Continental, don't you? But he paid for everything else himself.
This is such a small, petty argument, I can't even believe you people are talking about it. Oh wait...yes I can....
Prove it
I have not seen one bit of proof that it was taxpayer money. Only Air Force 1 was a government expense and that could not be helped.
Where is your proof?
this is crazy, it brings me to another MT stars page
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7267.shtml
Just taking a page out of sam's lesson plan.
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The boyfriend's My Space page disappeared too. nm
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This started out as a three-page document....as of yesterday....sm
It was up to 103 pages long. The dems added everything but the kitchen sink, and we don't know the half of what they added, and tried to change around.
Wasn't that a front-page headline in the
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