Looks like he is down one woman now that Carly Fiorina has disappeared. nm
Posted By: nm on 2008-09-18
In Reply to: I thought the same thing. - Chele
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It disappeared? I wonder how that happened.
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That's because it conveniently disappeared.
From the Associated Press:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iRxZox4GFoIweckPDP1oRhKBlHOwD94CDDM80
Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship
By BEN EVANS – 15 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist dictatorship.
"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."
Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.
"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."
Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado in which he called for expanding the nation's foreign service.
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
The Obama transition team declined to comment on Broun's remarks. But spokesman Tommy Vietor said Obama was referring in the speech to a proposal for a civilian reserve corps that could handle postwar reconstruction efforts such as rebuilding infrastructure — an idea endorsed by the Bush administration.
Broun said he believes Obama would move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national security force.
Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally.
"We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential of going down that road."
Here is article, it disappeared from the above post.
Before 9/11 the Federal Emergency Management Agency listed the three most likely catastrophic disasters facing America: a terrorist attack on New York, a major earthquake in San Francisco and a hurricane strike on New Orleans. The New Orleans hurricane scenario, The Houston Chronicle wrote in December 2001, may be the deadliest of all. It described a potential catastrophe very much like the one now happening.
So why were New Orleans and the nation so unprepared? After 9/11, hard questions were deferred in the name of national unity, then buried under a thick coat of whitewash. This time, we need accountability.
First question: Why have aid and security taken so long to arrive? Katrina hit five days ago - and it was already clear by last Friday that Katrina could do immense damage along the Gulf Coast. Yet the response you'd expect from an advanced country never happened. Thousands of Americans are dead or dying, not because they refused to evacuate, but because they were too poor or too sick to get out without help - and help wasn't provided. Many have yet to receive any help at all.
There will and should be many questions about the response of state and local governments; in particular, couldn't they have done more to help the poor and sick escape? But the evidence points, above all, to a stunning lack of both preparation and urgency in the federal government's response.
Even military resources in the right place weren't ordered into action. On Wednesday, said an editorial in The Sun Herald in Biloxi, Miss., reporters listening to horrific stories of death and survival at the Biloxi Junior High School shelter looked north across Irish Hill Road and saw Air Force personnel playing basketball and performing calisthenics. Playing basketball and performing calisthenics!
Maybe administration officials believed that the local National Guard could keep order and deliver relief. But many members of the National Guard and much of its equipment - including high-water vehicles - are in Iraq. The National Guard needs that equipment back home to support the homeland security mission, a Louisiana Guard officer told reporters several weeks ago.
Second question: Why wasn't more preventive action taken? After 2003 the Army Corps of Engineers sharply slowed its flood-control work, including work on sinking levees. The corps, an Editor and Publisher article says, citing a series of articles in The Times-Picayune in New Orleans, never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security - coming at the same time as federal tax cuts - was the reason for the strain.
In 2002 the corps' chief resigned, reportedly under threat of being fired, after he criticized the administration's proposed cuts in the corps' budget, including flood-control spending.
Third question: Did the Bush administration destroy FEMA's effectiveness? The administration has, by all accounts, treated the emergency management agency like an unwanted stepchild, leading to a mass exodus of experienced professionals.
Last year James Lee Witt, who won bipartisan praise for his leadership of the agency during the Clinton years, said at a Congressional hearing: I am extremely concerned that the ability of our nation to prepare for and respond to disasters has been sharply eroded. I hear from emergency managers, local and state leaders, and first responders nearly every day that the FEMA they knew and worked well with has now disappeared.
I don't think this is a simple tale of incompetence. The reason the military wasn't rushed in to help along the Gulf Coast is, I believe, the same reason nothing was done to stop looting after the fall of Baghdad. Flood control was neglected for the same reason our troops in Iraq didn't get adequate armor.
At a fundamental level, I'd argue, our current leaders just aren't serious about some of the essential functions of government. They like waging war, but they don't like providing security, rescuing those in need or spending on preventive measures. And they never, ever ask for shared sacrifice.
Yesterday Mr. Bush made an utterly fantastic claim: that nobody expected the breach of the levees. In fact, there had been repeated warnings about exactly that risk.
So America, once famous for its can-do attitude, now has a can't-do government that makes excuses instead of doing its job. And while it makes those excuses, Americans are dying.
© 2005 New York Times
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The middle class has already all but disappeared under...sm
republican rule. Based on earnings, we have a huge lower class, a very small middle class, and a tiny upper class that makes over 90% of the income in the US.
The boyfriend's My Space page disappeared too. nm
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It's funny how half of this thread just disappeared
Makes you wonder....
Huh? Even the reference disappeared! (Twilight Zone music plays). 1984. nm
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LOL...I mean **woman**!
Mrs. M, are you a woman?
I'm kind of doubting this, based on Mrs. M's preoccupation with various women's looks.
Who was this woman?
An eagle also needs to land sooner or later. Barak is neither left or right. Yes, he does lean a bit to the left, but for years we've had Bush lean to the extreme right thanks to his righteous evangelical radicals. This scares me a lot more. Please read and enlighten yourselves. Those of you who are still undecided are to be pitied. This campaign has been going on for so long, if you still don't know who to vote for....I would say you have a hell of a problem. Take your blinders off, Falwell is dead and I wish Limbaugh was too. The American people have brainwashed themselves and they like it. There are other great countries in the world, not just the U.S. They are proud patriots also and believe their country is the best. So wake up, READ about history and other countries. I live in a country that I would bet hardly of you know, let alone the capital. The country is called Canada and the capital is Ottawa. I too am proud of my country and I think IT IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD! Stop listening to those stupid radio talk shows who are nearly all republican........get a life. Vote for Barack, my God you folks need a change!!!
Monique
that woman is a ...........sm
stupid, FUGLY, racist BIATCH!
So a woman has a right to
abort with no questions asked because it is her uterus and no one's business. Yet you wish to take away the rights of people who don't believe in abortion and work in the medical field. No job should require you to do something that you find unethical. If you want to abort your child....fine....that is your decision and one that you will have to answer for and live with. So many people are on here screaming about their rights and how dare their rights be taken away. Forcing someone in the medical field to be involved in something they feel is unethical......isn't that taking away their rights. They have a right to refuse. There are other people in the medical field who would willingly perform an abortion....so why force those who find it unethical? That is just wrong.
A better woman?
OMG! Do even know what a better woman is? I will tell you - one who can say he** with that SOB rapist, I'm living my life my way and moving on! You sound more angry than I do? Have you lived your life to the fullest without being taken advantage of? Are you happy? Is it easier for you to point fingers and say what others should do? I am a very happy person who believes bad things sometimes happen to good people. This has nothing to do with being a better or stronger woman.
American Woman
American Woman, Dont leave, Im the one *they*, whomever (I frankly dont care..smile) tried to ban..Im the one they reported like back in grade school..oooohhhh..gonna tell the teacher..Im still here and NO ONE is gonna get rid of me or my opinions or beliefs unless they ban me and then I will move onto another political board..Dont leave, American Woman..I enjoy your posts and think you are an intelligent person who shows she cares through her posts..We need that here..heck if you leave, I probably will end up leaving, so will Lurker, Observer and all the rest and then what will become of this board..Please stay..Ya know what I do when it gets too much, I spend a half hour or so on Bill Mahers board (they are so friendly)..What you post about is the truth in America, dont deny others of reading the truth that you post..Please stay.
Hey, American Woman!!
Glad to read ya! Come back here, we all must maintain the liberal site, no matter what, ya know? I have been posting at Bill Maher's site, GCT is my *handle*. I usually go into the Current Events arena. I posted a hi to you on Bill Maher's site about one week ago. I didnt see your post, was focused on posts concerning crazy lady Barbara Bush mostly, LOL. Tell ya what, put a clothing pin on ya nose and come back here. I alternate between here and Bill Maher's site.
To American Woman
Dont ya know when I get off this board, I feel like I need a shower after dealing with the attack conservatives? It bugs the heck out of me at times..however, I enjoy reading what other democratic liberals are posting and knowing we are the future for America, the liberal people..There is no way the me-me, lock me behind a gated community, who cares about you, I got mine society will exist..It is not workable in an expanding world. So, as much as sometimes the conservatives, for some reason or another cannot stay on their own board and bug the heck out of me, I check back here every once in a while..I wish you would too. We need you here as a compassionate sane poster..I was on Bill Maher last night in Current Events, talking about jury duty, which I have to do in October..Blah!!
Hi American Woman!
Hi American Woman! Come on back here regularly. We have some really good liberal posters now. Yes, Im in CA. The fires are all around me but havent come to the desert yet (where I am). They have been moving towards the ocean instead (opposite direction). With a change of the wind, though, the fires could change direction, then they would come over the Sierra Nevada Mountains to get to the desert. About two years ago a fire came up over the mountains and you could see it from my house and the air was thick with smoke and soot. Was quite scary..but the firefighters were able to get it out. Yup, CA, the land of mudslides, wildfires, earthquakes, torrential rains (when it does rain..smile). So good to hear from ya..Come on back here. The board isnt the same without ya. :o).
P.S. American Woman
I should have included this in my last nights post..thank you for thinking of me and praying for me and my family. You are so kind. :O)
gt: Where's American Woman??
I haven't read too far yet tonight but is she back? And don't know what you're referring to in terms of your family but please let us all know if there is anything we can do to help?
It's actually a woman speaking. sm
This is very significant because this was on Al-Jazeera TV and what she says is pretty chilling. I clicked on it and it worked for me. I am sure you can find it somewhere else on the internet. Just for the record, I am not so sure he is president material myself. I dont doubt his leadership in the war on terror, but I am disappointed in other things.
Why would any self-respecting woman
vote for a man who calls his wife a "cu_t" and a trollope?
I don't get it. This is his wife- supposedly the one he loves. Apparently doesn't respect!
What does he believe about other women?
PS....all as a married woman, I might add.
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You can't speak for all of us. As a woman,
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What woman did he diss? sm
I'm being sincere here, I don't know who it was. I know it wasn't HC because I thought she said she wouldn't consider VP. But maybe it is her and she changed her mind.
I think it is a woman's right to choose.
IT has been debunked. The woman who...
said she was a member has recanted. She has always been registered republican. Her husband was a member several years ago.
Obama's pastor as recently as last year said "God dam* AMerica." Both Obama and his wife attended that church for 20 years.
Comparing the statements...and the person who made them...I would say there is no room to accuse Sarah Palin about her husband than to accuse Obama and his wife about their pastor/mentor/friend who married them and baptized both of their children.
Can we leave this nonissue now?
one intelligent woman
The fact that you can write that in such a classy way should make the libs choke on their words.
Nice job and don't let anyone ever silence your beliefs.
My favorite part of what you said was this "There is nothing wrong with nor to be ashamed about in the way we feel and we are as much entitled to that as liberals are to liberalism".
For the party that claims tolerance, they are the most intolerant people I encounter.
Happy Friday girl
hello? the statement that the woman
loves to fire people? pretty simple what i was responding to.
You silly woman
Where on earth do you get your so-called news? Moveon, Kos, or DemocraticUnderground?
If you care to ignore the teachings of Saul Alinsky, what do you think about his "church" associations?
Bill O'Reilly will be doing "The Obama Chronicles" on his show this week (or however long it runs), starting with Wm Ayers & Bernadine Dohrn.
If you're looking for documented accuracy, Rush Limbaugh is certified 98%-ish right. I hear it so often that the way it's said escapes me, but the libs know it, too. That's only one reason they hate him so much. Of course, the first is that he's got over 20 million listeners. Nobody can touch those numbers. Incidentally, I'm one of them.
Probably the first time he saw a woman
But she is an attractive woman
so that obviously makes her stupid and even though she has more experience than Barrack Obama......he has promised change and that is all they hear. Hang a mannequin by a rope dressed like her and that is okay....just silly Halloween pranks. Just don't do that to one looking like Obama because you will be charged and end up in jail. Always double standards.
You can't hang a black man because that is racist, but go ahead and hang a white woman because obviously that isn't sexist at all. Makes me sick.
yes, I believe woman have a choice
i also believe that homosexual marriage will grow the economy in ways no one will ever imagine. It's too bad you don't believe in change. Women have for many rights why not the right to bear or not bear a child if she so sees fit. No one knows everyone's circumstances. When you stand before God and take those vows it means for better or for worse, not "if I feel like cheating I will."
If anyone posted on here that their husband was cheating; everyone would say counseling or dump him! Why not McCain???? How is he better?
I won't go into abortion because I feel a woman has a choice. If you want backyard hacks killing young mothers in a nonclinical setting, go right ahead and try to have abortion illegalized. Also, get ready to pay for the welfare...
MAYBE it was just the heart of a much better woman!!
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This woman is not stable
She is calling Obama the president of death and Hitler. Saying Planned Parenthood has some hidden agenda and that the public school system is basically set up to sway your child from God. This isn't worth our time and she has many issues she needs to deal with besides being against abortion. If she wants to send the red envelopes, let her. Some of us know it won't do any good, but maybe being part of something is all this woman has. Who knows? I personally think we need to start an MT Envelope Project with money stuffed inside to help all of us struggling VR MTs!! Pick my address first! What do ya say?? HA HA!!! Goodnight guys, have a good one!
Where do babies come from? 1 man and 1 woman
I understand these relationships, but I don't think traditional marriage between a man and a woman should cover gays/lesbians. They have civil unions in my state and now they want marriage. Leave the tradition of marriage alone.
Marriage is for one man and one woman
If gays and lesbians want to show their commitment, then a civil union is for them. Don't redefine something thousands of years old just because it's "politically correct." I am so sick of it political correctness. I understand civil unions so that G/L couples can have health insurance, etc., but don't change what marriage means to so many of the rest of us. It is so much more than a legality and a commitment, it's about becoming one and having children, and continuing the tradition for generations.
UGLY woman. Looks like an
Hence, the full-time makeup artist, who should get a medal for merely making her sufficiently presentable that she doesn't break more than a couple dozen cameras wherever she appears in public.
LOL! How did that woman get elected
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Please note that American Woman is not AG
Thanks Brunson for you objective views....it is refreshing. You know how to respectfully post and carry on an adult conversation.
The only reason I am posting here is to state this even though it's blatantly obvious American Woman is not me.
I read here, but I don't post here. I might post my responses to posts here on the C board....but other than to clarify like I'm doing now I don't post here....I made a mistake on Friday posting here, but I got my boards mixed up. Have a great day!
American Woman is most likely gt and Observor.
I second that American Woman. Don't leave.
You have added much to the liberal board. Don't let them run you off. That's what they come here for. Don't give them what they want.
American Woman - email sent
Hi American Woman. I sent you an email. Hope you get it.
And this woman is a professor of psychology. sm
It's a scary world we live in.
The woman is a blatant racist. sm
Many in her own party have disowned her. I don't expect this to go anywhere. She has lost favor with the majority of her constituency and she is a truther. I have no use for her.
Just hold on here.....the woman was addicted....
addicts will do just about anything to get drugs. Murders are committed every day to get drugs. And it is not just the McCains who have pulled strings to avoid jail time. Although I need to research this before I talk much more about it.
Point being...this is not new in politics or any other walk of life. Are you saying she is somehow more responsible for her behavior while addicted than you would be or I would be, just because her husband is now running for President? And don't tell me if you had the means at your disposal to avoid jail and you were an addict that you would not use every one of them.
Are you holding her to the same standard you would hold yourself or a member of your family? If it were your mother or sister, and you had the means to help them avoid jail and get off the stuff, would you not do it?
What an unfair slam against this woman.
nm
debunked. The woman who said she was a member...
recanted. Sorry. Maybe you should have vetted your source a little better.
Debunked. Woman recanted....
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/
Which woman, which member? Your debunk
I saw no formal retraction from NYT. What I saw was an article entitled "Alaska Party Official Says..." To my read, party official is not the same as a member. Would be curious to see who NYT original sources were. Before dismissing this as a "nonissue," further scruitiny on this subject is in order. If you are so confident that your source is accurate, this should not bother you in the least.
You can take the woman out of the trailer-park, but
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Yer right. Get that woman a CPAP machine!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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