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You can take the woman out of the trailer-park, but

Posted By: you can't take the trailer-park out of the woma on 2008-09-11
In Reply to: McSame and Old - Get Informed

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Trailer trash?
Unfortunately for you, my dear, your use of the expression "trailer trash" negates any of your statements as worthwhile.  It's rather comical how you rant about the evils of someone with ambition and goals in one sentence, and then in the next sentence insult  all those who live in a trailer park.   I guess I'm guilty of a little prejudice myself, as anyone who calls anyone "trailer trash"  I consider that person a "snob", and a much less desirable person than the one who lives in a trailer park.  It's a juvenile and over-used term and actually reveals a flaw in YOUR character.  
You know I did not mean people who live in a trailer
First off people who live in trailer's do not call them trailer's, they are mobile homes. I have friends who live in mobile home parks and they take offense when people say they live in trailers/trailer parks. They always shoot back, "this is a mobile home dear. The two are quite different". Trailer trash is a slang used for low class citizens, and they can live in any type of a dwelling, and everyone knows this. Calling someone trailer trash is not being a snob (I certainly do not have anything to be snobby about). It was just a more kind word than the one that describes what she really is. I also think being ambitious and talking about someone life being extinguished so you can just become president is two different things. That is not ambition. But I guess it's okay with you that one opponent gets their life extinguished so your "gal" gets in the White House. I just think its very disgusting that people think this is an okay way think and am ashamed our society has not progressed very far since the 50s and 60s. My other half said luckily it is a very small percentage of people who think this way so that is a good thing. Anyway...I can tell your a Clinton fan and think her behavior is acceptable. I on the other hand do not. And yes, I do have flaws to my character. It must be hard being so perfect, but one flaw I'm grateful to have (if you would call it a flaw) is I value the life of a human being and no election is worth what she and other people are thinking is okay.
You hit that one out of the park!
Good analysis of the situation.
do you just hate white trailer trash?
all poor people and people of other colors?
Just another walk in the park.
I simply transferred my post from a thread so long it was beginning to disappear and combined 2 responses in 1 when guess who appeared under one shot. Next time, look before you pounce...rule of the jungle, survival of the fittest and all that good stuff.

You, on the other hand, cannot bear to let a single chance pass you by when it comes to imposing your obnoxious comments where they don’t belong. Juvenile name calling...waste of time (WOT)...a new short cut for you to try to wrap you brain around. Besides, denial is your game, not mine.

Careful, your intolerance is showing, for the umpteenth million time. Zzzzzzzzzzz, so boring.

So, you want to take their park bench away from them and...
have them sit on the curbside?
You can put lipstick & a clean dress on trailer-trash,
;p
Oh honey, sorry I can't follow your trailer trashy talk..
your ilk are all alike!
Oh honey, I can't follow your trashy trailer talk..
you and yur ilk are all alike
it was 1973, Union Square Park in NYC..

as were all these Pro-Lifers kept back behind Bob's Barricade wooden horses....I was there, hundreds were there on 14th Street that day prior to Roe vs Wade being passed....


I was very young....and I remember having this thought....If they are SOOOO interested in what is going on in my and other's uteruses/uteri....why do they NOT take some responsibility for the orphaned/fostered/forgotten children left in this country?  Again, I had that thought in 1973....and 35 years have passed and I STILL have the same thought.......my politics never changed......I am that same person I was then, only more mature, somewhat wiser, and very thankful....and I HAVE taken responsibility for MANY children in this country as I adore children....always have...


wonder just how many prolifers have adopted or fostered children left in fostercare/orphanages in this country.....over the same 35-40 year time frame......


that's not to them, they are entitled to feel what they feel...even though I just reread my post and it could be interpreted that way (and sorry for that) -


just get out of our bodies......our bodies, ourselves....(and Our Bodies, Ourselves is a book read way back then too)...and try to think about kids already here, abandoned or given up with no mentoring.....there are thousands of them in the USA.


Peace to all.....


He's a walk in the park at a Sunday picnic
nm
my mamma played recorders in the park
I call it the scruffy generation, but we are tough bunch of people. Hard working. No handouts for us. We are not complainers.
I am biased.
And perhaps in a related story: Enron Witness Found Dead In Park
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5173228.stm

 

Enron witness found dead in park
A body found in north-east London has been identified as that of a banker who was questioned by the FBI about the Enron fraud case.

Police said they were treating the death in Chingford of Neil Coulbeck, who worked for the Royal Bank of Scotland until 2004, as unexplained.

He had been interviewed by the FBI as a potential witness.

Three ex-workers of RBS subsidiary NatWest are being extradited to the US on Thursday to face fraud charges.


The extradition has sparked a political row, with opposition parties and human rights groups claiming the treaty under which they are being sent to the US is one-sided as the Americans are yet to ratify it.

'Highly regarded'

Prime Minister Tony Blair has rejected calls to renegotiate the extradition terms.

Mr Coulbeck's body was found in a park near Newgate Street, Chingford, on Tuesday.

Mr Coulbeck's wife had reported him missing last Thursday. Police have yet to formally identify the body, which was removed from the parkland on Wednesday afternoon.







One day when this is all over I'm going to be coming home to my wife and children and some poor guy is not
David Bermingham
Former NatWest banker


Mr Coulbeck had worked at the Royal Bank of Scotland until 2004, most recently as head of group treasury, the bank confirmed.

Neil was highly regarded by his colleagues here in RBS and was a respected, capable and hard working member of our senior management team.

The fraud case centres on a NatWest transaction under which it sold off part of its Enron unit.

RBS said: There is no evidence that Mr Coulbeck was involved in the approval of the transaction under investigation.

RBS has co-operated fully with all the appropriate authorities and made them fully aware of all the relevant facts in our possession.

The FBI said it would not comment while the case was ongoing.

'Appalling'

One of the so-called NatWest three, David Bermingham, said he had been knocked sideways by the news of Mr Coulbeck's death.

It is awful, appalling. One day when this is all over I'm going to be coming home to my wife and children and some poor guy is not and my heart goes out to his wife and family, he said.

He described Mr Coulbeck as a superstar, a thoroughly decent, honest professional guy and a very experienced banker.



Mr Coulbeck was among NatWest staff who made witness statements about the extradition, Mr Bermingham, of Goring, Berkshire, said.

Neil's statement was no more than a page and a half saying who he was and his role, he said.

Fellow accused Giles Darby, speaking from his home in Lower Wraxall, Somerset, said he was absolutely shocked by the death.

It's an utter tragedy. I'm struggling to take it in, really.

Of course, my thoughts are now with Neil's family and friends.

In 2002, US prosecutors issued arrest warrants for the three men, accusing them of conspiring to defraud their employers and investors in energy giant Enron, which had collapsed a year earlier.

It is alleged that the three British bankers - Mr Bermingham, Gary Mulgrew and Mr Darby - advised their employer Greenwich NatWest to sell off its stake in an Enron unit at well below its market value.

MPs' protest

They then left the bank and purchased a $250,000 (£135,000) stake in the unit - which they sold on at a much higher price, making a profit of $7.3m (£3.9m).

They deny any wrongdoing.

Their extradition was debated by MPs in an emergency session of Commons on Wednesday.

After a three-hour debate they voted by a majority of 242 to adjourn the Commons early in symbolic protest at the government's extradition arrangements.

On Tuesday, peers had voted in favour of suspending extradition agreements with the US until the UK-US treated had been ratified there.



Robertson to build theme park in Israel; Jews unwilling to convert
Plans for Holy Land theme park on Galilee shore where Jesus fed the 5,000

· Evangelical groups and Israel on brink of deal
· Some Israelis fear motives of US Christian right

Conal Urquhart in Tel Aviv
Wednesday January 4, 2006

Guardian

The Israeli government is planning to give up a large slice of land to American Christian evangelicals to build a biblical theme park by the Sea of Galilee where Jesus is said to have walked on water and fed 5,000 with five loaves and two fish.

A consortium of Christian groups, led by the television evangelist Pat Robertson, is in negotiation with the Israeli ministry of tourism and a deal is expected in the coming months. The project is expected to bring up to 1 million extra tourists a year but an undeclared benefit will be the cementing of a political alliance between the Israeli rightwing and the American Christian right.

However, the alliance has not been welcomed by all Israelis, including some who fear the ultimate aim of the evangelicals is the conversion of the Jews to Christianity rather than support for Israel.

Jonathan Pulik, a spokesman for the Israeli ministry of tourism, said the Christian market was very important for Israel's tourism industry. We would like to give them more of a reason to come here. We would be willing to lease the land to them free of charge and they would finance the construction.

The site of the centre, covering nearly 50 hectares (125 acres) and provisionally called the Galilee World Heritage Park, would be north-east of the Mount of the Beatitudes where Jesus delivered the Sermon on the Mount, and Capernaum which was described as the town of Jesus in the Bible. It would feature a garden and nature park, an auditorium, a Holy Land exhibition, outdoor amphitheatres, information centre and a media studio.

The ministry of tourism estimates the total cost would be $48m (£28m). Mr Pulik also pointed out that the project would bring large numbers of jobs to the area. Mr Robertson said in a statement that he was fully cooperating with the project but no deal had been formalised. He said he was thrilled that there will be a place in the Galilee where evangelical Christians from all over the world can come to celebrate the actual place where Jesus Christ lived and taught.

The Sea of Galilee is more reminiscent of the Scottish Highlands than the Middle East, particularly in winter and spring when the hills are green. The existing Christian sites are picturesque and understated oases of calm and there is even a Church of Scotland hotel and church in Tiberias, the main town in the area.

A major part of the shore of the Sea of Galilee was Syrian until it was conquered by Israel in 1967. Syria and Israel are still officially in a state of war and Syria insists the return of the Golan Heights and the Galilee shore is a prerequisite for peace.

Uri Dagul, the project coordinator, said the land issues would be concluded within a few weeks and then the final details would be agreed between the Israeli government and the Christian communities which are primarily American evangelical churches.

The American Christian right, best known for television evangelism and its stars such as Mr Robertson and Jerry Falwell, has been among the strongest supporters of Israel in the US.

The primary reason is that according to the Old Testament, Israel was given to the Jews by God. Fundamentalist Christians believe that in order for Jesus to return, two preconditions are Jewish control of the land of Israel and the conversion of the Jews to Christianity.

Yossi Sarid, a former government minister and member of the Knesset, said he was wary of the friendship of the American Christian right and projects such as the Galilee centre. He said: I am not enthusiastic about this cooperation because I have no desire to be cannon fodder for the evangelists.

As a Jew, they believe I have to vanish before Jesus can make his second appearance. As I have no plans to convert, as an Israeli and a Jew, I find this a provocation. There is something sinister about their embrace.

Avraham Hirschson, the Israeli tourism minister, said: I'm not a theologian, I'm the minister of tourism, and I'm not interested in the politics of our tourists as long as they come here. They come here as tourists, and they're friends of Israel.

Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2006

LOL...I mean **woman**!

Mrs. M, are you a woman?
I'm kind of doubting this, based on Mrs. M's preoccupation with various women's looks.
Who was this woman?

An eagle also needs to land sooner or later. Barak is neither left or right. Yes, he does lean a bit to the left, but for years we've had Bush lean to the extreme right thanks to his righteous evangelical radicals. This scares me a lot more. Please read and enlighten yourselves. Those of you who are still undecided are to be pitied. This campaign has been going on for so long, if you still don't know who to vote for....I would say you have a hell of a problem. Take your blinders off, Falwell is dead and I wish Limbaugh was too. The American people have brainwashed themselves and they like it. There are other great countries in the world, not just the U.S. They are proud patriots also and believe their country is the best. So wake up, READ about history and other countries. I live in a country that I would bet hardly of you know, let alone the capital. The country is called Canada and the capital is Ottawa. I too am proud of my country and I think IT IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!  Stop listening to those stupid radio talk shows who are nearly all republican........get a life. Vote for Barack, my God you folks need a change!!!


Monique


 


that woman is a ...........sm
stupid, FUGLY, racist BIATCH!
So a woman has a right to

abort with no questions asked because it is her uterus and no one's business.  Yet you wish to take away the rights of people who don't believe in abortion and work in the medical field.  No job should require you to do something that you find unethical.  If you want to abort your child....fine....that is your decision and one that you will have to answer for and live with.  So many people are on here screaming about their rights and how dare their rights be taken away.  Forcing someone in the medical field to be involved in something they feel is unethical......isn't that taking away their rights.  They have a right to refuse.  There are other people in the medical field who would willingly perform an abortion....so why force those who find it unethical?  That is just wrong. 


A better woman?
OMG!  Do even know what a better woman is?   I will tell you - one who can say he** with that SOB rapist, I'm living my life my way and moving on!    You sound more angry than I do?   Have you lived your life to the fullest without being taken advantage of?  Are you happy?  Is it easier for you to point fingers and say what others should do?   I am a very happy person who believes bad things sometimes happen to good people.  This has nothing to do with being a better or stronger woman.  
American Woman
American Woman, Dont leave, Im the one *they*, whomever (I frankly dont care..smile) tried to ban..Im the one they reported like back in grade school..oooohhhh..gonna tell the teacher..Im still here and NO ONE is gonna get rid of me or my opinions or beliefs unless they ban me and then I will move onto another political board..Dont leave, American Woman..I enjoy your posts and think you are an intelligent person who shows she cares through her posts..We need that here..heck if you leave, I probably will end up leaving, so will Lurker, Observer and all the rest and then what will become of this board..Please stay..Ya know what I do when it gets too much, I spend a half hour or so on Bill Mahers board (they are so friendly)..What you post about is the truth in America, dont deny others of reading the truth that you post..Please stay.
Hey, American Woman!!
Glad to read ya!  Come back here, we all must maintain the liberal site, no matter what, ya know? I have  been posting at Bill Maher's site, GCT is my *handle*.  I usually go into the Current Events arena.  I posted a hi to you on Bill Maher's site about one week ago.  I didnt see your post, was focused on posts concerning crazy lady Barbara Bush mostly, LOL.  Tell ya what, put a clothing pin on ya nose and come back here.  I alternate between here and Bill Maher's site. 
To American Woman
Dont ya know when I get off this board, I feel like I need a shower after dealing with the attack conservatives?  It bugs the heck out of me at times..however, I enjoy reading what other democratic liberals are posting and knowing we are the future for America, the liberal people..There is no way the me-me, lock me behind a gated community, who cares about you, I got mine society will exist..It is not workable in an expanding world.  So, as much as sometimes the conservatives, for some reason or another cannot stay on their own board and bug the heck out of me, I check back here every once in a while..I wish you would too.  We need you here as a compassionate sane poster..I was on Bill Maher last night in Current Events, talking about jury duty, which I have to do in October..Blah!!
Hi American Woman!

Hi American Woman!  Come on back here regularly.  We have some really good liberal posters now.  Yes, Im in CA.  The fires are all around me but havent come to the desert yet (where I am).  They have been moving towards the ocean instead (opposite direction).  With a change of the wind, though, the fires could change direction, then they would come over the Sierra Nevada Mountains to get to the desert.  About two years ago a fire came up over the mountains and you could see it from my house and the air was thick with smoke and soot.  Was quite scary..but the firefighters were able to get it out.  Yup, CA, the land of mudslides, wildfires, earthquakes, torrential rains (when it does rain..smile).  So good to hear from ya..Come on back here.  The board isnt the same without ya. :o).


P.S. American Woman
I should have included this in my last nights post..thank you for thinking of me and praying for me and my family.  You are so kind.  :O)
gt: Where's American Woman??
I haven't read too far yet tonight but is she back? And don't know what you're referring to in terms of your family but please let us all know if there is anything we can do to help?
It's actually a woman speaking. sm
This is very significant because this was on Al-Jazeera TV and what she says is pretty chilling.  I clicked on it and it worked for me. I am sure you can find it somewhere else on the internet.  Just for the record, I am not so sure he is president material myself.  I dont doubt his leadership in the war on terror, but I am disappointed in other things.
Why would any self-respecting woman

vote for a man who calls his wife a "cu_t" and a trollope?


I don't get it. This is his wife- supposedly the one he loves. Apparently doesn't respect!


What does he believe about other women?


PS....all as a married woman, I might add.
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You can't speak for all of us. As a woman,
nm
What woman did he diss? sm
I'm being sincere here, I don't know who it was.  I know it wasn't HC because I thought she said she wouldn't consider VP.  But maybe it is her and she changed her mind.
I think it is a woman's right to choose.


IT has been debunked. The woman who...
said she was a member has recanted. She has always been registered republican. Her husband was a member several years ago.

Obama's pastor as recently as last year said "God dam* AMerica." Both Obama and his wife attended that church for 20 years.

Comparing the statements...and the person who made them...I would say there is no room to accuse Sarah Palin about her husband than to accuse Obama and his wife about their pastor/mentor/friend who married them and baptized both of their children.

Can we leave this nonissue now?
one intelligent woman
The fact that you can write that in such a classy way should make the libs choke on their words.

Nice job and don't let anyone ever silence your beliefs.

My favorite part of what you said was this "There is nothing wrong with nor to be ashamed about in the way we feel and we are as much entitled to that as liberals are to liberalism".

For the party that claims tolerance, they are the most intolerant people I encounter.

Happy Friday girl
hello? the statement that the woman
loves to fire people? pretty simple what i was responding to.
You silly woman

Where on earth do you get your so-called news?  Moveon, Kos, or DemocraticUnderground?


If you care to ignore the teachings of Saul Alinsky, what do you think about his "church" associations?


Bill O'Reilly will be doing "The Obama Chronicles" on his show this week (or however long it runs), starting with Wm Ayers & Bernadine Dohrn. 


If you're looking for documented accuracy, Rush Limbaugh is certified 98%-ish right.  I hear it so often that the way it's said escapes me, but the libs know it, too.  That's only one reason they hate him so much.  Of course, the first is that he's got over 20 million listeners.  Nobody can touch those numbers.  Incidentally, I'm one of them. 


Probably the first time he saw a woman

But she is an attractive woman

so that obviously makes her stupid and even though she has more experience than Barrack Obama......he has promised change and that is all they hear.  Hang a mannequin by a rope dressed like her and that is okay....just silly Halloween pranks.  Just don't do that to one looking like Obama because you will be charged and end up in jail.  Always double standards. 


You can't hang a black man because that is racist, but go ahead and hang a white woman because obviously that isn't sexist at all.  Makes me sick.


yes, I believe woman have a choice

i also believe that homosexual marriage will grow the economy in ways no one will ever imagine.  It's too bad you don't believe in change.  Women have for many rights why not the right to bear or not bear a child if she so sees fit.  No one knows everyone's circumstances.  When you stand before God and take those vows it means for better or for worse, not "if I feel like cheating I will." 


If anyone posted on here that their husband was cheating; everyone would say counseling or dump him!  Why not McCain????  How is he better?


I won't go into abortion because I feel a woman has a choice.  If you want backyard hacks killing young mothers in a nonclinical setting, go right ahead and try to have abortion illegalized.  Also, get ready to pay for the welfare... 


MAYBE it was just the heart of a much better woman!!
nm
This woman is not stable
She is calling Obama the president of death and Hitler.  Saying Planned Parenthood has some hidden agenda and that the public school system is basically set up to sway your child from God.  This isn't worth our time and she has many issues she needs to deal with besides being against abortion.  If she wants to send the red envelopes, let her.  Some of us know it won't do any good, but maybe being part of something is all this woman has.  Who knows?  I personally think we need to start an MT Envelope Project with money stuffed inside to help all of us struggling VR MTs!!  Pick my address first!  What do ya say??  HA HA!!!  Goodnight guys, have a good one! 
Where do babies come from? 1 man and 1 woman
I understand these relationships, but I don't think traditional marriage between a man and a woman should cover gays/lesbians.  They have civil unions in my state and now they want marriage.  Leave the tradition of marriage alone.
Marriage is for one man and one woman
If gays and lesbians want to show their commitment, then a civil union is for them.  Don't redefine something thousands of years old just because it's "politically correct."  I am so sick of it political correctness.  I understand civil unions so that G/L couples can have health insurance, etc., but don't change what marriage means to so many of the rest of us.  It is so much more than a legality and a commitment, it's about becoming one and having children, and continuing the tradition for generations.   
UGLY woman. Looks like an
Hence, the full-time makeup artist, who should get a medal for merely making her sufficiently presentable that she doesn't break more than a couple dozen cameras wherever she appears in public.
LOL! How did that woman get elected
nm
Please note that American Woman is not AG

Thanks Brunson for you objective views....it is refreshing.  You know how to respectfully post and carry on an adult conversation.


The only reason I am posting here is to state this even though it's blatantly obvious American Woman is not me. 


I read here, but I don't post here.  I might post my responses to posts here on the C board....but other than to clarify like I'm doing now I don't post here....I made a mistake on Friday posting here, but I got my boards mixed up.  Have a great day!


American Woman is most likely gt and Observor.

I second that American Woman. Don't leave.

You have added much to the liberal board.  Don't let them run you off. That's what they come here for.  Don't give them what they want.


American Woman - email sent
Hi American Woman.  I sent you an email.  Hope you get it.
And this woman is a professor of psychology. sm
It's a scary world we live in.  
The woman is a blatant racist. sm
Many in her own party have disowned her.  I don't expect this to go anywhere.  She has lost favor with the majority of her constituency and she is a truther.  I have no use for her.