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My hubby and I feel that

Posted By: Chele on 2008-09-30
In Reply to: To those who are in foreclosure.... - weekendwarrior

we shouldn't just be handing money out to these banks to bail them out for their misdeeds and we shouldn't be bailing out people who were financially irresponsible.  I truly don't know what the answer is here, but how is it fair to bail out crooks on wall street and/or people who have overextended themselves?  The people we should be helping are the ones who were responsible with their money and finanaces and are now suffering because of crooks and low lifes who weren't responsible.  Those are the ones who deserve help.  The other ones made their beds.  Let them lie in it.


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Here's to your hubby
challenges that lay ahead in reaching our destination and restoring the greatness of our nation, block by block, brick by brick. Cannot think of a better path to take than one of "community enrichment." Good luck to him and I'll just bet he will rise to the challenge and be the one who grasps the brass ring. Please keep us posted.
hubby always had his sm
in fixed funds.  People over the years made fun of him.  Now is the one laughing.  He has more in his retirement than any of them after the crash.  Doesn't pay to make fun of others.
Hubby says (and I believe him) that

he saw this coming. That a friend of ours who hoarded his money all these years will be going to the grocery store with a wheelbarrow full of cash just to buy a loaf of bread.


He also said that his father told him back in the late 50s that there would be a depression like you never saw, bigger than ཙ and worse. I'm beginning to believe it.


I'm starting to wonder about those 2. LOL


Your hubby is one of the lucky ones
My father didn't get his and neither did I.
Hubby and I both lost $5K. Not much

if it would have been 6-digits, but it wasn't. We moved our money to the Money Market IRAs. That stopped the fall, and I've been hoping to get back into something soon, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.


We knew we didn't have enough to retire on, but were hoping it would be higher than it is now. Mine was doing great until November. His was really a flat line and I was planning on rolling his over to the company I am with last September.


Some people are destined to make money, others are destined to work their butts off to survive.  I know friends that....everything they touch, turns into money, while we work twice as hard and everything we touch, turns to dust.  Oh, well.  That's the breaks.


If her hubby worked an outside job
or paid into the system, she could collect half of his SS.
Hubby and I heard different versions (sm)

Each household should get $275,000 to pay their mortgages, save, buy what they need, pay off credit cards, save, etc., but ONLY those who are really in need.


I heard each adult would get  $297,500 and $127,000 would go straight back to the treasury (taxes), and the rest for mortgages, credit cards, cars, homes, etc., etc., etc. It would get the economy going, get everyone out of debt (maybe), get the car companies working again, the banks working again, etc. etc. The difference between this one and the above one is that a 2-person household would get $595,000.


Both the above plans would only cost between $37 million to $50 million, instead of $700 billion.


Now, I don't know about the rest of you, but I could go for that. Hubby doesn't want that much, says he doesn't need it (ha!) but we have hardly any retirement so it would really come in handy. Plus we have been living in a basement because we couldn't afford to finish building our house. I think he forgot about the house.In reality, I'd be happy with $100,000.


In reality, why hasn't anyone brought these plans up to the powers that be?????? Could it be because we're only the little guy?


 


 


Hubby's father told him we would

see a depression in our lifetime that would be 10 times worse than the great depression. This was back in the ླྀs. My husband always hung on to that statement and believes this is it. It's coming and there is nothing that will stop it. That's why we have been buying extra canned and dried goods when possible. We always made sausage and smoked a lot of pork but of course, we can't have animals here because of zoning, so we buy from a local farmer.


I know how to make bread and butter and have plenty of flour stored, but butter is going to be another issue since we don't have a cow and the last dairy farmer went out of business 10 years ago.


 


Not wearing any special, but my hubby
wants to bring a cooler with some cold ones in it in case there is a long line. LOL
That's what I said to my hubby When Bush and Cheney..
...decided that we should go to war in Iraq, even when AL Qaeda was in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Decided that there were WMDs in Iraq, despite being told by an impartial panel (United Nations) that there were no such things.

We knew right then and there that this country was in deep trouble. We had an arrogant excuse of a president, who was bound and determined to follow his own agenda (or daddy's)no matter what the American people wanted.

I know how you feel, but this problem is NOTHING compared to the mess that the last administration left us in!
in the same boat! If hubby loses sm
job we are in a world of hurt. Have no bills but house and utilities, ins etc, no car payment but he has to have his job.

I have family and friends all over the place retired from the big 3 auto companies and are all worried about their pensions. Am originally from Michigan and it has kind of turned into a ghost town up there. Very sad. Never thought I would see the day when the auto companies would be in so much trouble. The auto companies have put a lot of food on a lot of folks table!
Moved hubby's 6 weeks ago. Mine only last week. (nm)

More Congressional Corruption - Feinstein Funnels $$ to Hubby

Paste the link into your browser or click the link at the bottom of this post:


http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/21/senate-husbands-firm-cashes-in-on-crisis/


and I feel like makin *du du duu du du duu* feel like maaa-k-in love to YOU!
ARGH!!


You feel someone should be forced to do something they feel is wrong? sm
Sounds like communism to me.
I only lost $1000 so far-Hubby lost $2000 in a week (sm)

so, I called his financial advisor yesterday and told him to put hubby in a "safe" plan. It's now in a money market fund that is part of his IRA.


I have no choice. I have to stay where I am. I have no "safe" available. Neither of us will be able to retire on what is now in our 401Ks and you're not the only one. We couldn't buy a car with Both our 401Ks, let alone live on it.


We are late starters for retirement  not until our late 40s funds (most of our employers did not offer pensions). We are now of the first retirement tier and although we own our home outright, if we live until we are 90, there is no way we can live off retirement 401Ks or SS.


My husband's father told him back in the 50s that we would experience something like what is happening today and stated it would be worse than the ཙ crash. It is sure starting to look that way, but we will survive some way, I hope.


We need to pray for the people on SS now that cannot survive. I, for one, would love to help them, but can't help ourselves at this moment.


 


I do not feel sorry for the 'terrorists', I feel
sorry for those who are (or soon were) held there and are innocent.
I feel ya..

I just have to try and stay positive.  I dont want THEM to win.


 


JUST KIDDING!!!


Hey, why don't you tell us how you really feel?
nm
Tell us how you really feel
I think you need to use about 1,000 more ugly adjectives to make your point...
Feel the same way...
....I learn a lot on this board.  Let's give the administrator a chance???  Otherwise IGNORE the trolls, even though it is really really hard!
LOL I feel the same way!
I am intrigued with his eloquence, not to mention his intelligence and complete command of law knowledge. Yeah, I know he's been studying and practicing, but he seems pretty sincere.

I'm just worried about the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. He is a conservative and if Bush nominates another conservative, well...

One of my concerns is the abortion issue. I am personally against abortion, but I am pro-choice. It scares me to think what would happen if Roe V Wade was overturned. Illegal abortions, girls and nonwealthy women dying. Of course, we would definitely see a rise in D&C's for the rich and connected.
I feel sorry for him, too.
He was always one of my favorites.  He still is.  He was *conned* just like the rest of the world.  I can understand why he resigned.  Being a man of such honesty and integrity, I hope he doesn't beat himself up too much personally about it.  I don't believe he intentionally meant to lie.  He was merely another victim of the current administration. 
I feel the same way. sm
I have issues with much of President Bush's policy, most espeically immigration and big spending.  I don't see that President Bush supports the true conservative mindset.  I do support him, however, because he does uphold many other conservative values including abortion and I am 100% behind the war against Islamic terrorists.
Many feel it is necessary
I am not the only one who feels protesting is necessary, as you well know.

It is nice to spout opinions about what YOU think are the consequences of protesting, but there is no facts to back this up and is pure speculation, which I continue to see quite a bit of.


No need to feel sorry!! nm
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Im sorry you feel that way,
however, theres nothing superficial about the content in the video. Pets already have these type of chips implanted in them. Tracking chips. This is very REAL.

These chips are around NOW. As seen on on the video, a family has already volunteered to have these v chipis implanted. Theses chips will be more sophisticated than the ones placed in pets. Medical information, banking information, everything about you will be in this chip. At first it may be voluntary but before long these will be mandatory, to to buy or sell or do anything. Sure sounds like Revelation to me. End Times.

For those who have Christ's Salvation, they will be taken up with him in the clouds when he comes back. It's the ones left behind that will suffer this and many other great tribulations. Things are happening all around us that are in the book of REVELATIONS. Wars and rumors of war. Famine, Floods, Natural Disasters everytime you turn around. Rampant homosexuality, Abortions, pornography kids killing kids, gang violence, sexuality strewn everywhere and many other things on the news. This world is full of evil. Satans playground. Not to mention the economy and the shape it's in. People are losing their homes, jobs. There focus is on material things. Charge it now, worry about it later. It's all catching up. Yes, I believe we are in End Times. I do respect your opinion though. I will respectfully agree to disagree.

God Bless.
Lisa
Feel Ya
I really feel you.  I was in the credit union one day recently and actually talked to a woman I know who was there to process an application for a credit card because of that idiotic commercial.
"I feel so alone..."

Sorry you feel that way.
Sorry you can't let people live their own lives without feeling the need to determine that a woman "must have a baby no matter what". I guess you would rather see a child raised in poverty, be hungry, live with abusive parents, be a punching bag if the parents take their frustation out on the child, feel unloved, and unwanted. After all.. the person who got pregnant as someone so delicately put it "needs to deal with it and be responsible". Sure it's responsible to bring a child into a horrible horrible home just so the mother can "suffer the consequences" that she accidentally got pregnant. Never mind the condom broke or her birth control pills didn't work, or she was raped, or it was found that the child would be severely crippled or retarded and would never ever have any hopes of having a normal or decent life, or any of the other numerous reasons someone may have gotten pregnant. But by god they better have that child and pay for their mistake.

We are all entitled to our opinions, but when it comes to another woman deciding with her doctor the best course of action for her future and the future of a baby (who is not even developed yet and cannot feel pain or think) that's where I draw the line and it then is not my business and if it happens to me it is nobody elses business - and that is my opinion!

We don't need to watch any abortion films. We all know the process and what happens. If the baby has developed it's a horrible horrible thing. There is no denying that. At the same time it's quick. Making a child suffer for life (60, 70 & 80 years or more) your okay with that??? I say let the child be born into the Kingdom of Heaven where the child will not have to suffer the consequence of a horrible life on earth but feel the love forever our our creator.
Isn't that odd? I feel the same way about...
true believers of BO/JB.
Sorry you feel that way.......
One doesn't have to be "religous" to feel abortion is murder. Believe it or not, there are "nonbelievers" out there who believe abortion is murder. Some are so condemning of those that believe it is murder because a lot of them have had or know of someone who have had an abortion and have those feelings/issues to deal with.

And the "crutch" you refer to, which I believe would be God, isn't a bad thing, ya know. Maybe you should try it!!!!!!
I wonder about this too. I feel really bad for...sm
the soldiers that have had their tours of duty extended up to 12 months and when they get home for a few months, get sent back again. How long can this keep up. So many of them are National Guard who have real jobs and families back home. It is just not fair that the burden is shared by so few.
I feel the same way as you do.
DH told me there is some site that tells who voted for it and against it.

The whole lot of them needs to be fired!!!! Especially starting with the ones you mentioned.

The dems are sitting there patting themselves on the back for getting this to pass when they are the ones who put the crisis in hand.

Both Obama and McCain voted for it. I'm disgussed with both of them. I'm voting for the constitution party this election. It's about time we put the country back on the right track.

It is true though. We have no control. We are supposed to, but it seems like the people are just placing themselves in the position of office. Pelosi? Give me a break. She's been in there how long and she's still doing a sh!tty job. Frank? Pulleease. And Dodd? He's probably the worse. No wonder why Connecticut (my home state) wants him to remain in Washington, they don't want him in Connecticut.

Politicians in DC, corrupt to the max, liars to the bone.


Most of what you say is exactly how I feel. I too...sm
have a hard time about the Rev. Wright's church and his sermons. I would really like for Obama to explain this further, but I have a feeling that his handlers are afraid that this would inject race into the campaign and are not addressing it. This, however, is not a deal breaker for me because I do not believe religion should be an issue and plan on voting for Obama. More positives for me than negatives.
This is how I feel.....sm
The last 6 years, people have been buying what they cannot afford. Our children learn from us and sad to say, but they want everything now and charge what they can't afford because that's what they learned from their parents. My 2 sons have gotten things just like others (cell phones, new clothes, etc.), but I made sure that they waited until they could appreciate what was given to them. Most college kids want Obama for president because they want change NOW. My son goes to Hofstra Law and says he will vote for Obama because Obama understands the younger generation. We had quite a debate going on here...but like I told my son "when Obama can't and won't even try to prove that he was born in the United States, that there is something definitely wrong here". Like my mother said on her dying bed 6 years ago "there are going to be a lot of changes in this world". People were living the high life while my family just made it month by month. My mother also said that day "the people higher on the ladder will fall harder than the people who actually worked for their money and appreciated every dollar" I'm glad that I didn't give in and buy a beamer just because I wanted one. It's time that the people who wanted everything NOW and went out and charged and borrowed, pay the piper. It sucks, but I guess I will be paying for the people who lived so lavishingly the past 6 years.
I am sorry that you feel this way. NM
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I would feel the same about it either way.
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Here's how they feel. (sm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

They do have plenty of courage. It is many in the general public who do not. That is the point. The military and their families are fighting this war, while the rest of the country lives as though there is no war at all.
thank you for that :-) I feel the same (nm)
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All I can say is that I feel sorry for you.... sm
I guess, out of the goodness of our Democratic hearts, we will have to drag you kicking and screaming with us to a new and better world. No hard feelings!
I mean feel sorry for Just the Big Bad.nm
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All I can say is that I feel sorry for you.... nm
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Wow - thanks - you said everything I feel
And you haven't been bashed yet? Now that's surprising.
I feel sorry for you and the way you think.
I made an honest assessment, as I don't post here often.

You just don't care to hear the truth about yourself.



I don't believe that. I just feel being over
here arguing about this whole thing will make some people lash out with words. But I would like for others to be respectful of our leaders we send to their country.

At least I don't think that is the majority of the way people feel. And I did not vote for the man. I was against this particular war and felt he went after the wrong people. Yet, I still wanted him to be respected.

Oh don't feel sorry for me....

 and please don't pray for me either you self-rightous weirdo!


So? Even if you feel this way, it is okay
nm
You have every right to feel that way

as, obviously, it reflects your political bent.


I feel the same way.
This contracts should never have been in place in the first place, but what right does government have to take it away now? 
Oh WOW.....I feel so much better now!!!
now that the government is offering emotional support for our tough economic times..................THAT THEY CAUSED!!!!!