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Never mind, the no name posts explain it. You're just here to take a DUMP on the libs...nm

Posted By: Democrat on 2005-09-30
In Reply to: I don't know why you would choose this fight anyway...sm - Democrat

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That would explain why the libs were single-handedly
the rise of the Beat Generation, the counter-culture revolution of the 60s, the success of the civil right's movement and the VietNam, Gulf War and Iraq anti-war movements, not to mention the fact that they have been champions of all sorts of dissenting opinions/movements. Advocating for Palestinian statehood comes to mind.
Dump the Prez. Dump politics. We need a king.
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instead of nm always, explain your one line posts.
nm
your nasty posts speak for your state of mind

And, unfortunately, most mentally ill do not realize they are ill. I hope you have a supportive family. Or at least a couple cats.


Apparently, you're not following this. Never mind.
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Of course it didn't in your mind...... you're an Obama
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you're posts aren't positive either
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I stand by both my posts...meanwhile, you're arguing with someone else
....argued with oldtimer's post, and she's for Obama.

Too funny, you just attack anyone that you think is putting Obama or Biden down.

Get a grip!
You're simply pathetic, you know it? Your posts
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This person comes over here takes a DUMP on us...sm
and you think someone is supposed to be chasing her down. I agree with GT, don't let the door knob hit ya.
Maybe it's time to dump the presidents and
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We're just trying to catch our breath after laughing over some of the blind right posts (and W. i
nm
Then explain his church and minister. Explain that to me. nm
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Posts were removed due to the nastiness. Play nice and posts won't get deleted.

I saw the posts for myself, no one "ran" to me. Note that all boards were reviewed for inappropriate posts.


And, of course, the libs never do that to anyone do they? sm

All libs, please read.
There are a number of trolls on here.  The best thing to do is not give in to the temptation to feed them.  If they are simply ignored, they will find somewhere else to go.  Get it?  I ask that you not respond to their posts.  It is even helpful to do a google and get the real definition of an internet troll and how to best deal with them.
and we don't have to be *tolerant* of libs
pushing their ideals down our throat or down our children's throats in public school either....
Oh, that's right, the libs are NEVER belittling...

you have had too much kool aid.


That's right, the libs never say anything inflammatory about anyone...nm
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Just out of curiosity, where do all you libs think (sm)

the GOP folks you think are dying away or leaving are going?  Do you honestly think they're moving to the Democrat party?  Really????  Don't you realize that over the course of history the GOP and Dems have always had course corrections in their parties?  You do remember that MLK was a republican in the 60s, right? 


I am proud to be a republican, but I know that my party is changing.  We don't have a solid front-runner. Palin (while I personally liked her) needs more experience before taking that high of an office.  Most of our most public figures are older white men. 


Obama got elected on style.  He's a smooth talker, acts cool, and was different.  A slightly higher majority of Americans (and trust me, the election was not a landslide, only about 10% difference which ain't much) voted him in.  I don't like him.  He's obnoxiously arrogant, and I don't like him apologizing for our country.  Yes, Bush was arrogant too, but it was a different kind of arrogance.  He knew he was the leader of the most powerful nation in the world and I believed he did what he felt was best for our country.  While you all hated his reasons, I trusted him. 


Obama, on the other hand, his arrogance is that he thinks he's better than the rest of us.  The attitude that comes across is one of we should just be happy to be in his presence.  He's book smart.  But his inexperience is obvious.  He's a puppet.  Just like you libs thought Chaney was pulling the strings, Obama is just the same.  It's obviously not Biden (good Lord, what an imbicile), but there are plenty of others behind the scenes pulling those wires. 


All I'm saying is that I'm just going to watch and wait. My party will rebound and the Dems will eventually implode as is going to happen because each party always does.  You're partying now after your so-called 8 years of hell, but I'm just waiting. 


I love it when the libs are wrong! NM

Libs cons. It's just an abbreviation. sm
We can help that their abbr. fits their party the best - cons. Nina may have convinced herself that she comes in peace just to debate, but there was no reason for her to blow up in response to your post here.
And the others are propaganda machines for libs...
to each his own, as you say.
Libs talking about themselves here, no doubt...sm
can you say....mud sling fest. all night long ????
The libs hate Ann Coulter because.....
She is thin, blonde, wears fur, and has a brain to go with her good looks. No fool that woman.
Right, funny to you, but hurts the libs
nm
You libs are as predictable as the tides. LOL nm
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The old double standards. Libs hate it. sm
no way PR is on the WH staff, but just keep on talking. You just look more foolish all the time.  Chavez has been accusing the US of trying to off him for a long time.  PR was just echoing that, but who really cares. 
Not in the real world of dems/libs who are
nm
Oh well. Looks like libs have fallen back into favor.
is how we stage our revolutions. This one is long overdue and while lamenting this cruel turn of events, you might want to ask yourself why all this is happening. Could it be that W, his cronies and right-wing fringers have overplayed their hand and the voters are fed up with lies, deception, misinformation, politics of fear, division and the culture war, and yet the McCain camp keeps right on keepin' on. When you do a poor job, you get fired. That's the way it works. Change is what they want and change is what they are going to get. We are getting ready to write a new chapter in our history that will move us far beyond that mentality and will thrust us onto the threshold of the post post-911 era. I can't wait to get started and thank God I have managed to live long enough to watch it all unfold.
Four libs against 1 conservative...wow....how biased can that show be...sm
...that show is a joke.
Do you know how silly the libs sound by blaming everything
that happened in the last eight years on Bush?


I predict, that Obama will not take responsibility for anything that happens in next two years at least, maybe four....it will all be Bush's fault in some way.


And those won't be my words. They will be Obama's words.


Wait and see.


How much confidence can you have in president who takes no personal responsibility, or a Congress that takes no personal responsibility in their own legislation, blaming Bush for their own bailout legislation that they wrote?


Dems always change the rules.


It's happening again, slowly and surely.



If you don't think libs hold the dems accountable
They are harsher in their criticisms than the conservatives.
Libs always attack messenger instead of message.
They forget that this is not Bush’s porkfest, it’s Obama’s, all trillion of it, and yes, there will be more.

They don’t want to be educated on the Bush tax cuts. Tax revenues increased between 2003-2007.

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8792/11-2007-MBR.htm


Go to the 'Receipts' table. This is a table showing how tax revenues increased between 2005-2007.

But I guess Democrats would say Dick Cheney sneaked into the CBO and changed the numbers.

How is it that Liberals claim to be able to read our minds? I would try to read a Liberal’s Mind, but I don’t like short stories, comic books, or things written in crayon. LMAO! HIC!"

Fox is the leader of the pack and it cheeses libs off.
CNN pays for ad time during O'Reilly's show. That just cracks me up.

Fox Rocks. Even CNN knows that. They're desperately trying to attract a few viewers by advertising during the Fox lineup.


You know how you hate it when conservatives paint libs with the same brush? sm
We don't like it either.
Sounds like you libs....can hardly wait for Monday revelations....
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Who put the libs on this board in charge of free speech?
Joe has the right of free speech too. He asked a simple question, which Obama freely answered outlining socialism 101, and what did Joe get for that? A background check! And you can hail free speech and be okay with that in the same breath? Your hypocrisy is showing...and showing...and showing.

And you keep trying, and unsucessfully, to deflect from the true point. Understandably, because your focus is the big "O", the truthgiver, the one who will save the world. LOL. Free speech indeed. You don't believe in free speech unless it benefits you and the big "O."

Nothing in my post said anything about free speech. It just tried (and in vain I understand)...to stay on point...Obama's ANSWER.
I know it's hard a concept for the dems/libs, but Rush says what he means.

He doesn't sugar coat.  He's got his problems, but he owns them.  He doesn't dance around them, sweep them under the carpet, double talk his way out of it.  I mean, we aren't going to wake up tomorrow and find out Rush has been hanging with terrorists, is a closet muslim, or the antichrist.


There's a certain honesty to Rush that some people like and others don't. 


She also posts regularly here. Who are you to say where she posts? nm
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You're entitled to your opinion. I guess it depends on what side of the spectrum you're on.nm
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Please explain to me what we are not
doing to protect ourselves here?  You just assume there's nothing in place here to protect us because you believe all the unsubstantiated liberal talking points that come out ever day.   Believe it or not part of protecting us here at home is making the world a more stable place.  We can't just hope they won't make the long journey over here like they did in the 1700 and 1800s.  Today, in just a few short hours they can walk off of any commercial airline or private plane.  We are in Iraq for a myriad of reasons including protecting our own boarders.  Why does this have to be explained over and over again to you?  A lot of liberals call conservatives narrow minded, but many of you have tunnel vision to a degree I've never seen before.
Let me explain how I can say that.

I agree with you that there were inciting posts from both political viewpoints on the conservative board, myself included.  However, I think what is being pointed out was a general trend of "anything goes" for the conservative posters and high deletion/banning rates for the liberals.  This has been apparent for a long time and complained about many, many times (usually complaints are deleted so they are virtually impossible to document at this point).  I personally was warned once for "picking on" Nan, when objectively, it really was more the other way around.  There is a sickness of spirit on the conservative board at times.  I was drawn into this and became "ill" also at times.  I am not proud of this.


As far as the moderator or administrator, she did post in the Christian board some time ago regarding her beliefs.  They were evangelical Christian, kind of extreme.  That, coupled with occasional comments on the political board in addition to deleting LOTS of liberal posts and actively supporting and not reigning in the Conservatives is, well, just common sense as to her political leanings. 


Explain please
I don't have ESP...
So please explain this:
If marriage is for procreation, and Mary and Joseph were married, why and how was Mary still supposedly a VIRGIN when Jesus was born?
Well, then perhaps you could explain to me
why Saddam's atrocities didn't seem to bother us in the 80s when we wanted his help against Iran?
This might help explain why.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/washington/07recruit.html?ex=1309924800&en=1be0e7d4e2aac8d3&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss


7, 2006



Hate Groups Are Infiltrating the Military, Group Asserts




A decade after the Pentagon declared a zero-tolerance policy for racist hate groups, recruiting shortfalls caused by the war in Iraq have allowed large numbers of neo-Nazis and skinhead extremists to infiltrate the military, according to a watchdog organization.


The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks racist and right-wing militia groups, estimated that the numbers could run into the thousands, citing interviews with Defense Department investigators and reports and postings on racist Web sites and magazines.


We've got Aryan Nations graffiti in Baghdad, the group quoted a Defense Department investigator as saying in a report to be posted today on its Web site, www.splcenter.org. That's a problem.


A Defense Department spokeswoman said officials there could not comment on the report because they had not yet seen it.


The center called on Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to appoint a task force to study the problem, declare a new zero tolerance policy and strictly enforce it.


The report said that neo-Nazi groups like the National Alliance, whose founder, William Pierce, wrote The Turner Diaries, the novel that was the inspiration and blueprint for Timothy J. McVeigh's bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building, sought to enroll followers in the Army to get training for a race war.


The groups are being abetted, the report said, by pressure on recruiters, particularly for the Army, to meet quotas that are more difficult to reach because of the growing unpopularity of the war in Iraq.


The report quotes Scott Barfield, a Defense Department investigator, saying, Recruiters are knowingly allowing neo-Nazis and white supremacists to join the armed forces, and commanders don't remove them from the military even after we positively identify them as extremists or gang members.


Mr. Barfield said Army recruiters struggled last year to meet goals. They don't want to make a big deal again about neo-Nazis in the military, he said, because then parents who are already worried about their kids signing up and dying in Iraq are going to be even more reluctant about their kids enlisting if they feel they'll be exposed to gangs and white supremacists.


The 1996 crackdown on extremists came after revelations that Mr. McVeigh had espoused far-right ideas when he was in the Army and recruited two fellow soldiers to aid his bomb plot. Those revelations were followed by a furor that developed when three white paratroopers were convicted of the random slaying of a black couple in order to win tattoos and 19 others were discharged for participating in neo-Nazi activities.


The defense secretary at the time, William Perry, said the rules were meant to leave no room for racist and extremist activities within the military. But the report said Mr. Barfield, who is based at Fort Lewis, Wash., had said that he had provided evidence on 320 extremists there in the past year, but that only two had been discharged. He also said there was an online network of neo-Nazis.


They're communicating with each other about weapons, about recruiting, about keeping their identities secret, about organizing within the military, he said. Several of these individuals have since been deployed to combat missions in Iraq.


The report cited accounts by neo-Nazis of their infiltration of the military, including a discussion on the white supremacist Web site Stormfront. There are others among you in the forces, one participant wrote. You are never alone.


An article in the National Alliance magazine Resistance urged skinheads to join the Army and insist on being assigned to light infantry units.


The Southern Poverty Law Center identified the author as Steven Barry, who it said was a former Special Forces officer who was the alliance's military unit coordinator.


Light infantry is your branch of choice because the coming race war and the ethnic cleansing to follow will be very much an infantryman's war, he wrote. It will be house-to-house, neighborhood-by-neighborhood until your town or city is cleared and the alien races are driven into the countryside where they can be hunted down and 'cleansed.'


He concluded: As a professional soldier, my goal is to fill the ranks of the United States Army with skinheads. As street brawlers, you will be useless in the coming race war. As trained infantrymen, you will join the ranks of the Aryan warrior brotherhood.


Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company


Like I said....we all only have to explain our
own decisions to God. Remember your argument here to me. It may come in handy.

God bless.
Someone explain this to me...

If you are a suspected terrorist or suspected terrorist sympathizer you can go to Gitmo or sent out of the country to a place where torture is A-OK for the rest of your life w/o being given a reason for the incarceration or access to our legal system, even if you are an American citizen but....if you are on a list of terror suspects, you can buy a gun just like everyone else.

Published on Saturday, May 5, 2007 by Associated Press
NRA: Don’t Ban Gun Sales to Suspected Terrorists
by Sam Hananel

WASHINGTON - The National Rifle Association is urging the Bush administration to withdraw its support of a bill that would prohibit suspected terrorists from buying firearms. Backed by the Justice Department, the measure would give the attorney general the discretion to block gun sales, licenses or permits to terror suspects.

In a letter this week to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, NRA executive director Chris Cox said the bill, offered last week by Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., “would allow arbitrary denial of Second Amendment rights based on mere ’suspicions’ of a terrorist threat.” 0506 07

“As many of our friends in law enforcement have rightly pointed out, the word ’suspect’ has no legal meaning, particularly when it comes to denying constitutional liberties,” Cox wrote.

In a letter supporting the measure, Acting Assistant Attorney General Richard Hertling said the bill would not automatically prevent a gun sale to a suspected terrorist. In some cases, federal agents may want to let a sale go forward to avoid compromising an ongoing investigation.

Hertling also notes there is a process to challenge denial of a sale.

Current law requires gun dealers to conduct a criminal background check and deny sales if a gun purchaser falls under a specified prohibition, including a felony conviction, domestic abuse conviction or illegal immigration. There is no legal basis to deny a sale if a purchaser is on a terror watch list.

“When I tell people that you can be on a terrorist watch list and still be allowed to buy as many guns as you want, they are shocked,” said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which supports Lautenberg’s bill.

In the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings, lawmakers are considering a number of measures to strengthen gun sale laws. The NRA, which usually opposes increased restrictions on firearms, is taking different positions depending on the proposal.

“Right now law enforcement carefully monitors all firearms sales to those on the terror watch list,” said NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam. “Injecting the attorney general into the process just politicizes it.”

A 2005 study by the Government Accountability Office found that 35 of 44 firearm purchase attempts over a five-month period made by known or suspected terrorists were approved by the federal law enforcement officials.

© 2007 The Associated Press.


Will someone please explain to me -
Why do you keep saying our vote does not count and that the next President has already been chosen? 
I for one, have too much to do, to try to explain it....sm
to you, because frankly, I'm getting so I don't care.

There's nothing to find out, and they're making stuff up, so until you have something substantial, I have work to do.


However, if you would have posted about the screaming witch woman from up north and her rag on her, I would have really busted a gut being upset.

As it is, I'm just letting it all go, because Gov. Palin is better than you, better than me, and better than the media.

She will rise above it all, and come out on top. Of this, I have no doubts whatsoever.


That's all I have to say on the matter, cuz I have too much to type for more here....