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He doesn't sugar coat. He's got his problems, but he owns them. He doesn't dance around them, sweep them under the carpet, double talk his way out of it. I mean, we aren't going to wake up tomorrow and find out Rush has been hanging with terrorists, is a closet muslim, or the antichrist.

for his hateful words. Israel now refuses to do business with him because of his bizarre remarks about Sharon.

Needless to say, I was very happy to see this.

Israel pulls plug on Pat Robertson deal
Officials angry over evangelical leader's comments about Sharon's stroke

JERUSALEM - Israel won't do business with Pat Robertson after the evangelical leader suggested Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's massive stroke was divine punishment, a tourism official said Wednesday, putting into doubt plans to develop a large Christian tourism center in northern Israel.

Avi Hartuv, spokesman for Israel's tourism minister, said officials are furious with Robertson's suggestion that the stroke was retribution for Sharon's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip last summer. We can't accept this kind of statement, Hartuv said.

Robertson is leading a group of evangelicals who have pledged to raise $50 million to build the Christian Heritage Center in Israel's northern Galilee region, where tradition says Jesus lived and taught.

Under a tentative agreement, Robertson's group was to put up the funding, while Israel would provide land and infrastructure. Israeli officials believe the project will generate tens of millions of tourism dollars.

But the project now is in question in light of Robertson's comments, said Hartuv.

We will not do business with him, only with other evangelicals who don't back these comments, Hartuv said. We will do business with other evangelical leaders, friends of Israel, but not with him.

A day after Sharon's stroke on Jan. 4, Robertson suggested the prime minister was being punished for dividing God's land, a reference to the August pullout from the Gaza Strip and four West Bank settlements.

God considers this land to be his, Robertson said on his TV program The 700 Club. You read the Bible and he says 'This is my land,' and for any prime minister of Israel who decides he is going to carve it up and give it away, God says, 'No, this is mine.'

Robertson's comments also drew condemnation from other Christian leaders and even U.S. President George W. Bush.

The ministry's decision was first reported in Wednesday's edition of The Jerusalem Post.

Christian center planned near Galilee
Robertson's Christian Heritage Center was to be tucked away in 35 acres of rolling Galilee hills, near key Christian sites such as Capernaum, the Mount of the Beatitudes, where tradition says Jesus delivered the Sermon of the Mount, and Tabgha -- on the shores of the Sea of Galilee -- where Christians believe Jesus performed the miracle of the loaves and fish.

The project underlines how ties have strengthened in recent years between Israel and evangelical Christian groups that support the Jewish state.

Israel was considering leasing the land to the Christians for free. Tourism Minister Avraham Hirschson predicted it would annually draw up to 1 million pilgrims who would spend $1.5 billion in Israel and support about 40,000 jobs.

Hirschson, however, is one of Sharon's biggest supporters, and a member of the centrist Kadima party recently founded by the prime minister.

Hartuv left the door open to continuing the project, but only with people who don't back Robertson's statements.

We want to see who in the group supports his (Robertson's) statements. Those who support the statements cannot do business with us. Those that publicly support Ariel Sharon's recovery ... are welcome to do business with us, Hartuv said. We have to check this very, very carefully.

people are 2 different things. Blaming either party will get us nowhere. The situation is upon us and the blame game is only holding up the resolution.

Holding people accountable may help to prevent a similar situation in the future. Holding someone accountable means owning up to their part in the problem and making retribution to fix the problem. If someone went along with this and gained financially from it, then that person should be accountable - own up and pay up. If someone went along with this and gained politically, then that person should be accountable - own up and give up (your position).

I took serious offense to your comment because you didn't say it was directed to the politicians on the hill. You said as a general statement to all dems.

the GOP folks you think are dying away or leaving are going? Do you honestly think they're moving to the Democrat party? Really???? Don't you realize that over the course of history the GOP and Dems have always had course corrections in their parties? You do remember that MLK was a republican in the 60s, right?

I am proud to be a republican, but I know that my party is changing. We don't have a solid front-runner. Palin (while I personally liked her) needs more experience before taking that high of an office. Most of our most public figures are older white men.

Obama got elected on style. He's a smooth talker, acts cool, and was different. A slightly higher majority of Americans (and trust me, the election was not a landslide, only about 10% difference which ain't much) voted him in. I don't like him. He's obnoxiously arrogant, and I don't like him apologizing for our country. Yes, Bush was arrogant too, but it was a different kind of arrogance. He knew he was the leader of the most powerful nation in the world and I believed he did what he felt was best for our country. While you all hated his reasons, I trusted him.

Obama, on the other hand, his arrogance is that he thinks he's better than the rest of us. The attitude that comes across is one of we should just be happy to be in his presence. He's book smart. But his inexperience is obvious. He's a puppet. Just like you libs thought Chaney was pulling the strings, Obama is just the same. It's obviously not Biden (good Lord, what an imbicile), but there are plenty of others behind the scenes pulling those wires.

All I'm saying is that I'm just going to watch and wait. My party will rebound and the Dems will eventually implode as is going to happen because each party always does. You're partying now after your so-called 8 years of hell, but I'm just waiting.

This is/was a good board with some good folks. PERHAPS she just hadn't seen these posts.....maybe....hope that's the case.

Otherwise, I agree that it's probably time to boycott this board. I have long been aware of the definite bias of the powers that be. But I still hold out hope for fairness in the long run. And I was banned on the conservative board for calling someone stupid!!!! (which I shouldn't have, I admit).

The bottom is starting to drop out of this thing. I am positive the media (who are angry already about the phony "bias" attack by McCain) will NOT let SP's silence go unnoted.

First and foremost, please express my personal appreciation to your husband for his service to this country. By no means would I EVER ridicule a military person. They have served and DIED for the freedom we have and they continue to do so. I say the war in Iraq is ridiculous and that is my personal opinion. I think it was wrong from the getgo and I think it is WRONG to put our service men and woman in harm's way with many of them sacrificing their lives needlessly. There has never been peace in the middle east and there never will be (IMO) all the way back to biblical times.

Bush's "excuse" for the war was to capture or kill bin Laden wasn't it? So why has that not been done? Because, again in my opinion, the war is not against terrorism but about the wealthy oil barons.

AND, I pray for you and your husband. You too are making a great sacrifice and, again, your husband is serving his country and for that he deserves and gets from me the utmost respect whether or not I happen to agree with the politicians who sent him to war. May he be safe and soon return to you.

CLINTON put a lot of those people in government spots. I think he called it Affirmative Action.

I worked for a patent attorney back then and after Clinton got in, half the patent office were, (how can I say it without being branded a racist?) Indian, Pakistani, and a mix of other races. My attorney would be furious when they would return a patent for an error, and he would have to do a 15 page brief on why there was NO error.

Why are all the gas stations and motels now owned, or mostly owned, by other races? Where does the money come from?

There is a large VRAJ temple (sic) a few miles from my house. No one could afford to buy the property when it went up for sale because they wanted close to $1M for it. People from all over the world come there, yet a white person is not allowed to step 1 foot on their property or they will be arrested.