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Nothing's good enough for Palin haters...nm

Posted By: . on 2008-09-23
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The HATERS as you put it seem to be you
believe what you believe must be horrible people and then you start the name calling. Need to point that little finger at yourself.
So sad to see all the haters on this board!
I wonder if anyone would come on here and apologize if Obama actually does an awesome job?! Probably not, they are all about the negativity and the hating! I am VERY happy though! Good for everyone!
Haters? I am independent, but have seen
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You stirred the Bush haters.....
and I do mean Bush haters. I have never seen so many people focused on hating one person. It is pretty darn scary. I am not a Democrat, but I do not agree with everything Bush has done by a long shot. I vote for the man (or woman) who most closely follows my values and I feel would be best for the country as a whole. So far there are no Democrats I could vote for in good conscience..too many fundamental differences. I could have voted for Zell Miller and would have if I lived in his state. I am looking for something different, not something falling on rote party lines. Think I found that in Fred Thompson. He says some very important things, one being unity...if this country cannot unite again, we will not stand strong. No other candidate is talking about unity. He is talking about federalism...putting more power back in the states where it belongs constitutionally and in every other way. That is the best way to really know "the will of the people," as the important law changes at the state level are put to an actual vote of the people. What a concept. He also says that 5 or 6 judges should not legislate from the bench and shove laws down the throats of the entire country, which is as UNconstitutional as it can be. He also believes in true religious freedom (which means not painting a target on Christians and everything Christian as the ACLU is so fond of doing). We have gone from freedom OF religion to freedom FROM religion, and that, my friend, is at the core of the problems this country faces today. Okay, off my soapbox. :-)
Bad news for the Christian haters....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420001,00.html


Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are both Catholics.  Although Joe Biden dances around the choice issue, he does say he follows the teachings of his church and believes that life begins at conception.


Good for you, Joe.


The HATERS use their religion as an excuse,
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I reckon if you took the IQ of all you haters on this forum,
and added them all together, you wouldn't even get to 20!!  Very amusing . . . . . .
I reckin' if you took the IQs of all you haters on this forum, sm
and added them all together, you wouldn't even get to 20!!  Very amusing . . . . . .
I'd like to see some of the bleeding heart Bush haters sm
stick flowers in the Islamic terrorist's guns.  They would certainly get a chance.  They will kill them first. 
Might as well not waste time talking to the haters.
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Obama Haters will hate this post.
Remember Rush I-hope-he-fails Limbaugh?

All they want is fodder to support their ridiculous claims. They don't want to hear that he is actually succeeding better than expected.
Waste 101- Hannity haters, do not read

Although I'm not a big fan of Hannity, he had a countdown last night. I'd like to know how does landscaping certain hotels, buildings, etc. contribute to jobs? What happened to the infrastructure spending for roads and bridges that was to create jobs...even though those jobs would be temporary, some projects would have given a year or two of work. It still seems like these jobs are "once and done" jobs.


Even Microsoft gets a bridge across a highway so the workers have easier access to their other building across the highway. Why, since he's #2(?) in Forbes, couldn't he pay for it himself?


Hopefully, this list will be on line soon. It's not there yet.


The total for the 101 stimulus spending was $1,234,631,672. The good news is at least we know where some of the stimulus/omnibus money is going.


What? None of you Christian haters are making a lick of sense

and Zauber her name is L-i-b-b-y...


 


Sadly, the haters started to hate him way before he even took office....sm
I have mixed views here, but I found it amazing, as I read this board around election time, and then shortly thereafter, that all the Bushwackers and Right Wingers were already condemning and DOOMING the Obama administration....way before the man even took the oath of office! Now George had 8+ years to do good for this country, to help the economy, the reach out to the poor, to upgrade the educational system, and what did his administration do? Let's see, instead of getting Bin Ladin, we spend billions and billions, and thousands of precious lives, on a war with Iraq for those infamous invisible WMDs which no one could find, and which was reported to the President ahead of time. We have made most of the world hate us for our arrogance and stupidity. He let Wall Street run amok and watched the country go down in ashes....stop bashing Obama, no he is not God, he is not perfect, he has faults, he will make mistakes inevitably (and I am not fond of several things in the stimulus bill), but by God give him a chance, he has barely been in office a MONTH versus 8 excruciating, embarrassing years with the Bush gang, support him as our American President, and stop DOOMING his administration before he even gets a chance. Sorry, off my worn-out soap box now!
Sarah Palin fans are as whack as Palin.
Even John McCain's top adviser referred to Sarah Palin as a whack job.
Vote McCain and Palin! -oh and why does Palin
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Palin over Biden any day. Make fun of Palin all you
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Sarah Palin makes Sarah Palin look stupid!
The Democrats did not make Sarah Palin look stupid. Sarah Palin does a fine job of looking stupid without help from anyone. All she has to do is open her mouth!
Good post....truth doesn't always sound good
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Good for you! Most people would not recognize good...sm
character if it hit them over the head, just sheep who follow along without thinking for themselves, believing the political pundit spitting out garbage.
Good post - good research (sm)
History does repeat itself at times. I had forgotten about the 50s and Russia.

Very scary times we live in and so many new enemies. This is definitely not a scare tactic but a very clear warning. You can't ignore facts, they are there.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
rasberries
Good point, good post. Thanks.

Palin might not have taken it anywhere
but it is not her job to seek taking books off shelves, period.  And you don't know if this is "political crap" or not because the media has not been permitted to ask her any questions.  Once voters get these answers, then they will have the necessary information with which to make a decision as to whether or not this is who we/they want in office.  I, for one, am not going to skew her with a pitchfork or defend her as I have no information with which to do so, either way.  I need answers to these questions that have been floating out there. Questions and answers are very important in our form of government called democracy which is for the people, of the people and by the people.  Freedom comes with a gigantic amount of responsibility, is not to be taken lightly, and is very fragile.
and Palin

accused Hillary of whining when she protested.  Talk about unity among women.


 


What Palin said is exactly right....
we haven't fought Iraqis since Baghdad fell. We have been fighting the insurgency "Al Qaeda In Iraq" since then. And if I am not mistaken, AL Qaeda was responsible for 9-11.

It appears there are others than Sarah Palin who are "clueless."

Sarah Palin is not running for President. Obama is. ANd he has been running for 18 months. If he had done an interview 3 weeks into it, he would have done no better than she did, and probably worse.

lol.
Why would Palin do this? sm

She banned reporters from her 1st meeting with world leaders.  Only allowed access to photographers and a television crew.  I'm just curious as to if anybody read as to why.


 


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080923/ap_on_el_pr/palin_leaders


Now if only Palin would say....
for the love of Pete.....LOL!  I say that all the time and get teased horribly for it. 
Palin

Palin has many shady contacts also: 


She has backed the Alaska Independence Party.  Its platform calls for the defense of "states rights," to "seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution." Basically, the AIP wants a vote on secession. The AIP says that Gov. Sarah Palin used to be a member of the party. Earlier this year, Palin recorded a welcoming address to the AIP's convention.


Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she was once a member of their party, which, since the 1970s, has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States.

And while McCain's motto -- as seen in a new TV ad -- is "Country First," the AIP's motto is the exact opposite -- "Alaska First -- Alaska Always."


In an interview of extremists Mark Chryson and Steve Stoll helped launch Palin’s political career in Alaska, and in return had influence over policy. “Her door was open,” says Chryson — and still is.


So, this is group is just one of her past supporters.  They helped her get where she is today.  And dont even get me started on McCain.


Palin
Just dont try to marry into her family and then divorce because then she will come after you with all her power that the VP will give her.  Talk about abuse of power!  They they flat out refuse to testify?  I didnt know anyone had that right. 
Palin
Because SHE wanted to be there.
What exactly is it about Palin you don't like?
I like the fact that Mccain chose her after only meeting her once or twice. If he had chosen someone he has known for 20 years or so or someone he is buddies with, everyone would have jumped on him for choosing a friend.

And please don't get on about how she talks, etc., (not just saying this to you gourdpainter, to everyone) how many people have actually looked past how she talks and what she has named her children to what her stance is on the issues?

You can make fun of her for saying seeing Russia from Alaska is foreign policy experience (she WAS joking!) but then Obama turned around and said there are 57 states... they all make gaffes.

I think that she is a strong woman and she has a good moral base. Yes, her daughter got pregnant, but really, did you all listen to your moms on everything? I know when I was a teenager I went to parties, drank, smoked, even though my mommy told me not too. You can tell your children everything, but believe me, they aren't going to listen to you! Not until they hit about 22 and go "oh crap, mom and dad WERE RIGHT!"

The fact that she brought her Down syndrome child into the world just shows how much love she has. It's nice to see her husband is so active in the raising of their children. I know quite a few dads who aren't. It goes to show she will have a good support group if she becomes VP.

As for her experience, we obviously need to throw the experience argument out this election since Biden and Mccain are about equal and Obama and Palin are about equal.

Also, everyone keeps talking about how they want change and don't want the same old politicians in the white house but then they want to harp on Palin and say "oh she was governor of Alaska, what does she know??" I think it would be refreshing to have someone that isn't from a big city and hasn't been in the Senate. I mean Biden has been there for what, ever? And so has Mccain. So maybe by having this "small town girl" to check him on some things will be good.

I think people just need to get off her case. Dems, if SNL was making fun of Obama every week, you would be furious, and a lot of people would claim racism, etc. I think it is sickening that ANY of our candidates have been reduced to a comedy routine in which they are portrayed in such a bad light. Regardless of what we think of them, our leaders need to be respected. If we can't respect them, then we need to vote them out.

I'm sorry, but if no one can admit that the liberal media has been very biased this election, they have been living under a rock. Even comedy shows, like SNL, Daily show, Colbert, etc have been very left sided. There is no longer any unbiased news. And then because maybe one or two sources go against the grain and lean right they are considered a poor source. That is totally unfair. We are supposed to believe everything the liberal news says, but not what the conservative news says? C'mon. You have to know by now when you watch the news NO MATTER WHO IS REPORTING you need to take it with a grain of salt!

Once again, this is no longer an election. It is a popularity contest. Sad.



Okay...first of all Palin can't
fart without the media reporting about it.  LOL!  I just do not see where you guys say she was being all sneaky.  Did she steal the money from the RNC?  NO....they gave it to her to buy clothes.  Do you want a receipt of every thing the RNC has spent and who they have spent it on because if that is the case, we can request that of the DNC because I'm sure they have similar things they have paid for.  At least Palin didn't say that the clothes were just in her closet like Obama said about Ayers just living in his neighborhood.  I don't see where Palin has tried to hide anything and when it came out....she was honest about it.  That is more than I can say for Mr. Obama who says he never heard Rev. Wright preach any message of hate in the 20 years he attended that church which is all I've ever heard out of Wright's mouth when he has been interviewed on TV.
Q&A re Palin

> > Question: What is America 's first line of missile
> > interceptor defense that protects the entire United States ?
> >
> > Answer: 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard.
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> >
> > Question: What is the ONLY National Guard unit on
> > permanent active duty?
> >
> > Answer: 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard
> >
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> >
> > Question: Who is the Commander in Chief of the 49th Missile
> > Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard?
> >
> > Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
> >
> >
> >
> > Question: What U.S. governor is routinely briefed on
> > highly classified military issues, homeland security, and
> > counter terrorism?
> >
> > Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
> >
> >
> >
> > Question: What U.S. governor has a higher classified
> > security rating than either candidate of the Democrat Party?
> > Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
> >
> >
> > According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain
> > in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used
> > to keeping secrets. She can be entrusted with our national
> > security, because she already is.
> >
> > Now you know too, please, pass it on!
> >
> > ?
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> > Commander....
> >
> > 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard
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Go Palin ----NOT!
http://alaskareport.com/news98/x61620_rape_palin.htm
Maybe neither she nor Palin consider her to be in ...
"a fix." What if your daughter chose life? Gonna send her to Alaska to Palin?
What I see Palin as....

is an absolute insult to women in this country.  She was simply put on the ticket to try to get Hillary supporters, and seemingly was okay with that.  Women have worked just as hard as any other minority in this country for equality.  Regardless of that, she ran on a ticket that did not support equal wages for equal work (check out McCain's record), was against choice when it came to abortion, would like to overturn R v Wade, and every time she opens her mouth ignorance abounds. 


No, I don't want her to succeed because I would hate for any other country to think she is actually a portrayal of women in this country.  She is an absolute joke.


Palin fun...(sm)

Point and click on everything -- several times (especially animals behind doors)


http://www.palinaspresident.us/


ROFL


Me Too -Go McCain and Palin!
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Palin does have brains.

She could not have gotten where she is today without having brains especially since she started in the PTA and moved up.  She didn't have mommy or daddy in politics bringing her name up every chance they got.  She is a very admirable women, IMHO.  I would be very proud to have her as VP.  A woman who can raise 5 kids and be a governor......that is just remarkable.  I admire the way she still had her youngest son even though the doctors told her he would have Down syndrome.  She isn't afraid to stand up for what she believes.  She is more of a real person to me.  She hunts, she is a hockey mom.  She is no b!mbo.  And lastly....she is a beautiful woman and I'm not just speaking about her outer appearance.  She cares.  She is for the people.  I think McCain made a great choice when he picked her.


Go McCain and Palin 2008!!! 


Everyone is talking about Palin? NOT.
McCain's self-destructive stunt sucked the air out of nothing. The big speech is still resonating for those 84,000 who filled the seats of the Mile High stadium and the 38,000,000 TV viewing audience. We have all noticed the deafening silence from the McCain camp on the 19 points Obama raised in the big speech, which comes as no surprise since we are used to seeing republicans run in the opposite direction as fast as their feet can carry them when confronted with any sort of intellectual challenge. If you, your party and McCain want to make jokes instead of taking the real issues seriously, you will just be digging yourselves in deeper and deeper. In fact, let me loan you the shovel.

Just because you choose to wimp out in the face of intelligent dialogue on the very grave issues that our nation face, some of which have been raised in these posts, does not mean they have disappeared. It just means that they do not exist to you. All of the articulate posts that have appeared today have been ignored by the stupefied and responded to by the informed. The DNC does not have to tell PUMA anything, but the attitude behind such a comment is just another example of the misguided, miscalculated notions McCain employed when he made his VP selection. Then again, the republicans have always been a smug bunch who have a tendency to underestimate their opposition.

These are grown women (PUMA) who have minds of their own and have the sense to be just as insulted as the rest of our gender who are not supporting a party who will outsource their jobs 'til the cows come home, kill any initiatives that guarantee fair/equal pay for equal work, treat women like political cattle, use them as tokens to pump life into a dead campaign and select a woman who would submit herself to this blatant and transparent exploitation….all for the sake of a policy that would attempt to wrestle free choice away from women to control their own bodies and reproductive functions and cram right-wing Christian dogma down their throats.

Hillary supporters and women with brains don't take kindly to these policies, anymore than they subscribe to the NeoCon positions of the republicans' latest hand-picked celebrity. The hypocrisy is breath-taking. McCain has gambled away his experience card and his celebrity card and played the gender card, all the while accusing the Obama camp of playing the race card….a political stunt that is already backfiring right in his face, and we are only 36 hours into the aftermath.

Sarah Palin
Sarah Palin has just announced her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant and will be marrying the baby's father!
What I LIKE about Palin .... flame away

I like the fact that she is NOT a Washingtonian ..... Obama took a big hit with me - all that talk about change and then he picks Biden -- who has been in Washington most of his life, who does the Democrat double talk better than most!


I like the fact that she stands up for what she believes in and fights the big boys when necessary.


I like the fact she is a normal person .... sure, they have some money but .... she has problems and is dealing with them.   Her husband is blue collar worker, and to me that is a plus. 


Do I think she is ready to be VP?   I have to do more thinking and soul searching about that ...


Be honest about it -- they both chose their running mates based on what they hoped would help them win the most votes ... not who they really wanted or thought was most qualified!! 


I wanted a McCain/Lieberman ticket myself.


BUT.......  she does NOT deserve the crap she is taking.  That is what is wrong with politics in this country. 


The people who COULD do the best job -- WON'T EVEN RUN. They won't subject themselves to the BS they have to endure .....


JMHO .. I will be watching, reading and listening over the next few months.  Tough decisions to be made!


Go McCAIN and PALIN!
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Then we would be as well off with Palin as with Obama...
in fact, better. He doesn't have any foreign policy experience either...nor any executive experience...has never run anything in his life. He is a rookie on all levels. She has made executive decisions. She ran a state with a big state budget. She made executive decisions every day. Obama has made zero. She is already ahead of him. So...what was your point again?
Does this bother you about Palin?
The first time she applied for a passport was in 2007.

Palin/Biden
I don't know, I heard Obama denounce bringing the kids into the politics and he seemed pretty forceful and pretty snarly himself.  My opinion is the kids ought to be off limits but when the candidates (both of them) trot them out, that takes the "hands off" out of play for me.  They can't have it both ways.  If they really care about the kids, leave them out of the spotlight TOTALLY.  Although I admit the little girl licking her hand and smoothing the baby's hair was pretty endearing..............BUT fairplay, don't show that and then say that it isn't fair to talk about the unwed daughter's pregnancy....so leave her off the camera, don't trot in the boyfriend to participate too.  Ridiculous!
Palin family...

They looked great to me.  Cindy McCain reached for the child, it wasn't handed off to her.  Bristol looked anything but terrified.  She looked proud of her mother.  And well she should be.  She is running for VP of the United States.  I thought it was especially sweet with the little girl licked her hand to smooth down the baby's cowlick.  Circus freaks are the last words I would use to describe this family.


 


Palin not stonewalling....

In response to Palin’s statement that she had nothing to hide, in August 2008 the Alaska Legislature hired Steve Branchflower to investigate Palin and her staff for possible abuse of power surrounding the dismissal, though lawmakers acknowledge that Monegan and other commissioners serve at will, meaning they can be fired by Palin at any time.”[52] The investigation is being overseen by Democratic State Senator Hollis French, who says that the Palin administration has been cooperating and thus subpoenas are unnecessary.[53] The Palin administration itself was the first to release an audiotape of Bailey making inquiries about the status of the Wooten investigation.[50][54]


Sarah Palin was asking because

the voters were concerned about the language in some of them and felt it inappropriate for their children.  This was to help keep bad language away from children.  Not get rid of them because a certain race, nationality, etc. wrote them.  The Nazis burned books written by Jews.  This is entirely different. 


As for my supposed untruth about Obama being Muslim at one time:


Obama's Kenyan birth father: In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.


Obama's Indonesian family: His stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."


The Catholic school: Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press reports that "documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim" while at a Catholic school during first through third grades. Kim Barker of the Chicago Tribune confirms that Obama was "listed as a Muslim on the registration form for the Catholic school."


Koran class: In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies, thereby revealing he was a Muslim, for Indonesian students in his day attended religious classes according to their faith.


Mosque attendance: Obama's half-sister recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events." Watson learned from childhood friends that "Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." Barker found that "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." One Indonesia friend, Zulfin Adi, states that Obama "was Muslim. He went to the mosque. I remember him wearing a sarong" (a garment associated with Muslims).


This along with his association with sketchy people including Ayers and his 20-year attendance to a church that promotes hates messages.....I feel I am justly right to be concerned about Obama and have reason to not trust him one iota.


I am not even religious. I like Palin because she is
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