Oh yeah, judge an entire party by a few bad apples.
Posted By: How typical.nm on 2008-11-12
In Reply to: The "family values" party? - sm
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Humor, in this case, seems to have skipped an entire political party.
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Yeah - not at all like the NY Times, which has had entire
When you get up tomorrow morning, look in the mirror and say "Today, I will try NOT to be a dope".
Yeah, and didn't Michelle just tell us to judge Obama on his actions? sm
They finally let her out of her box onto the Larry King show, and that's one of the things she said.
I don't like his actions, one little bit.
He's bamboozled millions of people.
Do You Like Apples?
Four separate recent polls have indicated that aproximately 20% of American people identify themselves as Republicans. The Republican Party has lost a fourth of its base over the last 25 years. Specter's switch highlighted the fact that people are walking away from the Republican Party.
How do you like them apples?
Apples and oranges. sm
That seems to be what our conversations always end up. We both look at the war in Iraq for a totally different viewpoint. It will never change and there is no use discussing any further because we have done it several times before. We will have to agree to disagree.
Apples and oranges....
Good grief. What is so insulting about proposing bilingual education for American children? You want better education. He wants better education. Where's the rub?
While I agree that the quality of education leaves a bit to be desired, I would look beyond the classroom to explain what is happening to the native tongue and why. Can you say electronic media? TV, DVDs, MP3, video games and the like (just for starters) hold much more sway with your kids than any teacher could ever hope to have. Virtual reality wins hands down.
Their future lies deeply embedded in a global community, like it or not. MTs compete with BILINGUAL, trilingual and multilingual populations in 3rd world countries for our jobs every single day. We aren't exactly coming in first in that race, to be sure.
Couldn't hurt to equip our children with the tools they are bound to need. Last time I checked, American pride won't pay the bills.
apples and oranges
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Apples and Oranges
The bailout for the auto industry was to save jobs. Healthcare reform is to save people. If the private insurance industry is a casualty of that, at least the unemployed will have healthcare while they look for another job.
Apples to oranges.....
Everyone may not be Christian or care for a tree, but EVERYONE is supposed to be an American, right? If not, go back to where you came from and live there with your mouth shut!
It isn't fair to pick out a few bad apples...
...and characterize a whole group based on them. And you're also right about Conservatives (loosely put) not always agreeing with one another, especially these days. Seems dissent among the ranks is breaking wide open.
But regardless of degree of badness of the apples in general - any group as a whole who supports Bush remains suspect as a whole because there is simply no reason left for an intelligent person to do so. Most who still do, do so because they aren't aware of the facts and aren't very good judges of character. Just my opinion, but I stand by it, and see more proof of it every day.
Apples meet oranges. (nm)
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Again, apples...meet oranges!
Unlike common garden-variety pedophiles, Priests are in positions of power within the church and take vows of celibacy. I am sure you are aware of the major upheaval in the Catholic Diocese because of the extensive number of cases where priests have sexually molested children. Exorbitant payouts have been made by the Catholic Diocese to the many children who are victims of Priests who are practicing pedophiles.
Apples...meet oranges! (nm)
:p
Another apples to oranges nonsequeter.
His daughters attend the school where kids of many high-profile official go. As we can see from the gusher of back pack reports and endless analyses of their first day at school yesterday, his daughters will be fodder for the paparazzi, not to mention targets of kidnapping and assassination. They have considerations that Joe and Josephine the Parents do not have.
There is nothing hypocritical about rejecting school vouchers programs which are unnecessary, undesirable and, in fact, DO undermine the public schools systems by diverting funds that can do more good for a larger number of children in public settings. He campaigned on this issue and the way he has responded to the issue is perfectly consistent with what he said before he election.
Don't you have better things to do with your time than a 24/7/365 witch hunt vigil?
Yes, but pears and apples are both fruit!
:)
You can't compare apples and oranges...
today, came from Bush' watch - including the sorry mess of our economy and our standing in the world theater.
Sorry you don't like the truth.
You are putting apples with oranges.,
this has nothing to do with that.
The saying, 'a few bad apples spoil the bunch' is true...sm
I think the loose recruiting tactics to beef of the military that is what is causing these chain of events. My question is how can America screen soldiers to prevent stuff like this?
And to take away their immunity is just as scary to me. There's no time like the present to start unhooking the training wheels.
you're mixing apples and beans, drug addiction
alcoholism and drug addition is nothing like religious fanaticism and/or religious extremism.....and/or genocide in Darfur and/or Kenya
he went to see Odinga not a month ago to try and broker peace there......and after he left Kenya, the genocide continued and continues thru now....
sand....head....ostrich.......
I am an independent....neither party is "my" party.
THis election cycle I believe the best man is a Republican. Do your research. John McCain warned about this in 2005, named Fannie and freddie by name, co-sponsored legislation to control them. Blocked by Democrats, led by Chris Dodd..same guy now trying to fix what he and the Dems broke. Chris Dodd, #1 on contributions list from fannie/freddie, followed closely by #2, your shining knight Mr. Obama. The chickens have come home to roost all right...or should I say the donkeys. :)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've said before that you're leaving, but you and your goons can't sta
There is no way you can do an entire
report by the point and click method.
That really isn't for you to judge. sm
This is a chat board. You people perceive lies in the slightly statement. You must have a really really low tolerance to differing viewpoints. I would say, having kept an eye on it, Suzie is probably the only one who has escaped being called a liar, but I remember a post that named her with some others as a liar, so I guess I am even wrong on that one. Wait...maybe I am a liar!
judge not lest
ye also twitch, snort, flinch and giggle.
Who are they to judge?
I won't accept criticism from countries that refuse rights for women, have lax child labor laws, and routinely torture and kill their own people for either religious or political reasons.
As far as I'm concerned, anyone associated with a terroist group has no human rights because they aren't human, IMHO.
Let's not take it on ourselves to judge
Non-Christians are not qualified to judge whether a Christian's faith is genuine, and Christians are strictly prohibited from doing so.
I think the entire country knows how old he is...
I think they use the picture of him in his uniform to underscore his military service...which I don't think hurts his cause but helps it, in this world we live in now.
As to his mind...that is kind of a cheap shot, don't you think? I haven't seen any evidence of an unsound mind. Obama is not "old" but take him away from a teleprompter or a planned statement and he stumbles and stutters with the best of them...just trying to be fair here.
Nobody said he was. You ignored the entire text
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Judge Roberts
Have you even bothered to take the time to notice that EVERY SINGLE POST ON THIS BOARD about Judge Roberts is a POSITIVE POST???
What planet are you from, anyway? Is your life so pathetic that the only pleasure you get is from stalking people on this board in the bizarre way you do and constantly put them down personally? Dang. You need a Happy Meal, dude.
judge roberts
To the conservatives who just have to frequent our liberal board..I have been told, conservatives, that you attribute posts questioning your beliefs or attacking you as coming from gt..THEY DO NOT COME FROM ME. I do not go onto your board as it is too disheartening to read the way you would like America to be and your continual attack on liberal sites and liberal news articles..So, get over me, I AM NOT THE ONE POSTING ON YOUR CONSERVATIVE BOARD..
Secondly, to my democratic friends, have any of you watched the John Roberts' confirmation hearings? I have been watching for two days now..In fact, right now they are in recess, so I thought..let me check out the MTStars political board..MSN news video site on the computer has live hearings and they are fascinating..I have to tell you, so far I kind of like Judge Roberts..My only hesitation is Bush recommended him..
If you judge O by his followers....
'nuff said.
I don't know....but I don't think it is our place to judge....
I knew girls in high school who did not want to ask their parents about birth control, intended to stay celibate, had the same boyfriend through school let hormones override their better judgment and got pregnant. Not their parents' fault. And as you said, the boy could have used a condom, and we don't know that he didn't, because we know the success rate for condoms is not that great. That we are even having this discussion to me is ludicrous...if Chelsea had become pregnant while Bill was in the White House I don't think Democrats would be attacking Bill and Hillary's parenting skills. I certainly would not have.
Way too quick to judge!
I was simply passing on a story, like the OP. I'm not Republican because my dad is. I'm a conservative and if those beliefs happen to go along with the Dem candidate, then that's who I'll vote for. The story was meant to show how people's idea of "spreading the wealth" can sound like a really good idea - everyone haveing an equal share - but when you get down to it, it goes against everything our country was founded on. The American Dream - come sign up to get your welfare check! No thanks!!!
Judge not does not mean go with the crowd
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Just assume and judge all you want. I AM
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Well, that judge is right legally
I mean, really, do we all here check the little box on our tax forms that gives extra money to whatever it is they're asking for? I try to keep up with all changes in the tax law looking for things that I can deduct.
Part of the shenanigans of the big companies, however, is that they can hire alchemist accountants who can turn lead into gold, finding ways to create deductions that is far different from the original intent when the deduction was entered into the tax code.
Are 4 months enough to judge O, especially in these
so difficult times?
It is said that the economy is already in a slight upswing and the unemployment rate went down bit.
I guess we have to give O at least 1 year to be able to judge his decisions and actions.
I'm sorry but for this judge to throw
out the tests for those firerighters who studied hard and earned those promotions and didn't get them merely because they were all white with one hispanic man. To me...that is racism right there. They didn't get the promotions because of their skin color. Had they been a more motley crew of races, they would have gotten those promotions. It is truly a sad day when hard work and studying doesn't benefit you because your skin color isn't that of a minority.
I'm all for equal rights between the races and all of these firefighters were given the same studying materials and the same amount of time to study. How can you take away those promotions from the people who studied hard and scored the highest merely because most of them are white?
This doesn't present a very good opinion of this judge so far to me. She also made a comment about how with her experience and her being a latino women, she could make better decisions than a white male. Racism? Hello? If a white man had said that he could make better decisions than a black man, woman, or latino.....OMG.....the race card would have been thrown out and that would have been the end of his career. Why is it that minorities are allowed to say racist things and be racist and that is okay, but the moment a white person says something remotely racist.......that is the end of that person's career. More double standards.
Prejudice: To pre-judge
without knowledge, based upon appearances.
Can't see how this has anything to do with how I feel about Obama. He has done and said quite enough for me to base an opinion on my knowledge of his actions. Find another word to sling around. Prejudice won't work. Neither will racism.
That is not even close to the entire transcription of what he said. nm
I believe O'Liely invented the entire
thing to help his pal John Gibson sell his book on this fictional topic.
After this *War on Christmas* was conjured up by these two, I believe that some people jumped on the *Happy Holidays* bandwagon simply because they're sick and tired of the religious right forcing their religion down everyone's throats for the past 5 years in the form of laws, supreme court nominees, FDA rulings, etc.
I think people of all religions are sick and tired of their religions being regarded as somehow *less* if they're not Christian (or even begin the *right kind* of Christian).
The other week, I made a contribution to a Salvation Army *pot* outside of a store I was visiting. The young man wished me a Merry Christmas, and I responded back with *Merry Christmas,* because I'm aware that the Salvation Army is a Christian organization. I would never dare to ASSUME that every stranger I encounter is Christian, and if I am the person initiating the *Happy* greeting, I use the phrase *Happy Holidays.* If I'm responding, I respond back with whatever they say to me first.
Yes, CHRISTMAS obviously is a Christian holiday first and foremost. But this holiday has also evolved into a secular one which includes Santa Claus and jingle bells, lights, tinsel and credit cards. It provokes people of ALL religions to act in a *Jesus-like* way: With kindness, charity, love and tolerance.
I believe that the Christmas *season* is so loved by ALL people that they are just unwilling to give it up to those who have proven to be so intolerant for the last 5 years. They want to feel included and validated, as well. It's ironic how some of the ones who claim to be the most *Christian* are unwilling to share their holiday with the rest of the country, and rather than being inclusive and welcoming of others under the umbrella of *Happy Holidays,* they instead choose, once again, to bully others. Must be the true meaning of the *bully pulpit.*
Merry Christmas to all Christians who celebrate Christmas.
Happy Holidays to others of all religions who just might enjoy the Jesus-LIKE feeling they get in their hearts during this time of the year. And as long as I initiate holiday wishes to strangers, I will be very respective, tolerant and inclusive of those who just might not be Christian, as I fondly remember the *good old days* when freedom of religion for ALL was not only *tolerated* but was unquestioned, welcomed and encouraged here in the United States of America. 
I agree the entire interview was not there.
And I truly don't understand why. I tried to quickly find the transcript of the entire interview, but I was unable to find it.
I wish they would have posted the entire interview because Sean and Newt argued and probably for the first time did not agree. If I remember correctly, there was even a jovial comment at the end about Newt being closer to Alan than Sean (or something to that effect). I don't remember the exact words. I did watch the entire interview, and I can tell you that Sean challenged Newt on points, but Newt still disagreed with him. The gist of what Newt said was that the President just needs to start being honest with the American people about things he does.
If I have more time later, I will search some more and see if I can find the entire interview in case you don't believe what I have told you after watching the entire interview.
I do agree, however, that the entire interview should have been there because I think his disagreement with Sean was much more interesting than his agreement with Alan.
That would certainly apply to the entire MTStars
(Thumbs up.)
Yes...this would be the liberal viewpoint of the entire...sm
Gov. Palin interview. Not surprising.
Charlie Gibson did perform his role for the left well, didn't he? Entrapment journalism at its best.
There is absolutely nothing in the entire mess this
Their greed, and the greed of those who so stalwartly support every move they make, is the root of most of the problems we face today.
I have read his entire plan
And I think it is still a national health care plan. Slice away all the pretty words and what are you left with? Government control. Sorry, no thanks.
I don't agree with the entire thing....
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You are missing the entire point. How sad. nm
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LOL you missed the entire point...
If saving innocent lives (abortion) is your goal, then MCBUSH is certainly *not* the lesser of two evils because he is CHOMPING at the bit to start MORE fake wars that kill MORE innocent people.
Or as I said before, does it only matter if the "innocent life" being killed is American...?
Are Americans really this stupid they can't see that all these FAKE WAR deplete our own treasury, kil people, and MAKE US MORE ENEMIES??
OR, DO WE have to be brought to our knees by the CIVILIZED portion of the world before we stand up to government that invades innocent countries with OUR money using OUR sons and daughters as cannon fodder?
If you base your perceptions of the entire
populace of our country from the postings on this forum, you need to get out more.
I'm sorry they said bad things about your candidate. It obviously hurt you deeply.
Ditto your entire 2 posts...
I agree wholeheartedly. This should not be a race issue, but unfortunately that's all it has become and thats too bad. I'd like to give Obama the benefit of the doubt that he may be able to do a decent job, but I'm afraid these next 4 years are gonna be just one race issue after another, not very productive for our country. Like the posters below, where's my check?
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