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I believe O'Liely invented the entire

Posted By: OP on 2005-12-15
In Reply to: Of course, it's not a priority - see message - Starcat

thing to help his pal John Gibson sell his book on this fictional topic.


After this *War on Christmas* was conjured up by these two, I believe that some people jumped on the *Happy Holidays* bandwagon simply because they're sick and tired of the religious right forcing their religion down everyone's throats for the past 5 years in the form of laws, supreme court nominees, FDA rulings, etc.


I think people of all religions are sick and tired of their religions being regarded as somehow *less* if they're not Christian (or even begin the *right kind* of Christian). 


The other week, I made a contribution to a Salvation Army *pot* outside of a store I was visiting.  The young man wished me a Merry Christmas, and I responded back with *Merry Christmas,* because I'm aware that the Salvation Army is a Christian organization.  I would never dare to ASSUME that every stranger I encounter is Christian, and if I am the person initiating the *Happy* greeting, I use the phrase *Happy Holidays.*  If I'm responding, I respond back with whatever they say to me first.


Yes, CHRISTMAS obviously is a Christian holiday first and foremost.  But this holiday has also evolved into a secular one which includes Santa Claus and jingle bells, lights, tinsel and credit cards.  It provokes people of ALL religions to act in a *Jesus-like* way:  With kindness, charity, love and tolerance.  


I believe that the Christmas *season* is so loved by ALL people that they are just unwilling to give it up to those who have proven to be so intolerant for the last 5 years.  They want to feel included and validated, as well.  It's ironic how some of the ones who claim to be the most *Christian* are unwilling to share their holiday with the rest of the country, and rather than being inclusive and welcoming of others under the umbrella of *Happy Holidays,* they instead choose, once again, to bully others.  Must be the true meaning of the *bully pulpit.*


Merry Christmas to all Christians who celebrate Christmas.


Happy Holidays to others of all religions who just might enjoy the Jesus-LIKE feeling they get in their hearts during this time of the year.  And as long as I initiate holiday wishes to strangers, I will be very respective, tolerant and inclusive of those who just might not be Christian, as I fondly remember the *good old days* when freedom of religion for ALL was not only *tolerated* but was unquestioned, welcomed and encouraged here in the United States of America.




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O'Liely at it again - now that's
Not once, but twice...hey, if it ain't happening, let's just make it up!!! And then people parrot everything this guy says?! Good grief!


Saginaw Township On The O'Reilly Factor Radio Program

(TV5) -- A Mid-Michigan Township makes national news but there's a problem, local officials say the whole thing was made up.

Bill O'Reilly is making the claim that Saginaw Township officials banned residents from wearing red and green during the holiday season. Local officials say he's dead wrong.

Syndicated controversial talk show host Bill O’Reilly said on his radio show:

“In Saginaw , Michigan , the township opposes red and green clothing…on Anyone, In Saginaw Township they basically said anybody, we don’t want you wearing red or green. I would dress up from head to toe in red to green if I were in Saginaw Michigan .”

-- Bill O’Reilly

WNEM TV-5 Talked to Saginaw Township supervisor Tim Braun who says O’Reilly’s comments are flat out not true. Braun goes on to say the township hall has red and green Christmas lights adorning the building at night.

On December 12th the Fox News Channel which broadcasts O’Reilly’s Cable TV show “The O’Reilly Factor” told TV5 it was a radio issue and had nothing to do with the Fox News Channel. TV5 is contacting O’Reilly’s radio producers for their side of the story.




'Red & Green Clothing Ban'
False Rumor

December 12, 2005

On Friday, December 9, on the Fox News Channel's The O'Reilly Factor, with Bill O'Reilly and guest Jim Pinkerton, Fox News analyst, it was falsely reported in a segment entitled More Victories for Christmas, that ...

.....In Plano, Texas, a school told students they couldn't wear red and green because they are Christmas colors.......

Due to the number of e-mails, inquiries and phone calls to Plano ISD regarding students wearing red and green, Superintendent of Schools Dr. Doug Otto has posted this communication to assure the school community that this rumor is not true.

The school district does not restrict students or staff from wearing certain color clothes during holiday times or any other school days, noted Dr. Otto, who said that the school district's attorney has requested that Mr. O'Reilly retract the statement.

Dr. Otto said that attorneys have requested of Mr. O'Reilly that, in the future, he ask his fact checkers to do a more thorough job of confirming the facts before he airs them. It would be our hope that you would engage in fair and balanced reporting of this nationally recognized school district in the future, wrote PISD's attorney.
Okay, now Rush/O'Liely/Colter didn't say it,
so you won't believe it, but read this:
The guy is a friend of Cheney's, for Pete's sake.


From the December 2005 Idaho Observer:

President confirms Constitution status in angry outburst

It’s just a g-d piece of paper, President Bush reportedly exclaimed in reference to the U.S. Constitution.

The alleged comment came last month during a meeting with congressional leaders who were cautioning President Bush about implementing some of the more controversial provisions of the new-improved Patriot Act and was reported by Capitol Hill Blue editor Doug Thompson. Capitol Hill Blue publishes the dirt coming from secretly disgruntled sources inside the Bush administration. The president’s dramatic mood swings, substance abuse issues and profane language are commonly reported.

Thompson is hard to discredit. He has been a D.C. journalist for over 40 years and is known to have eyes and ears everywhere.

President Bush even commented that Dick Cheney is one of his best friends because he doesn’t read about their private conversations in the press the next day.

The truth is that President Bush is right, in a practical sense: The Constitution is just a piece of paper that was superceded by the 14th Amendment and replaced by U.S. Code. However, blatant irreverence for that sacred document is unbecoming of a president.

See full story below

Did President Bush really say that?

If you will notice, President Bush no longer (if he ever did) carries himself as the commander-in-chief of the world’s most formidable military leader of the free world and president of the United States. For the last couple months he acts like he’s running for office. His administration is sinking in a quagmire of corruption and its capacity for fiscal irresponsibility and diplomatic arrogance seems to reach new highs (or lows) with each passing day. His job is no longer steering our nation through this difficult time, but to convince the American people that the times are not difficult and everything is going according to some secret plan that he and his cronies are working. And then this: Did he really refer to the Constitution as a g-d piece of paper? As many who have considered the possibility since the story broke in Capitol Hill Blue Dec. 9, 2005, we believe that he did say it. Even if he didn’t, he acts that way. And, in all honesty, it’s true—just as true as the statement, It’s just a g-d book when a soulless psychopath describes the Bible.

by Pastor Chuck Baldwin

Internet news site Capitol Hill Blue’s founder Doug Thompson wrote in his column on December 9 that in a private meeting with congressional leaders, President G.W. Bush was urged to take caution in implementing his new Patriot Act because it would potentially alienate conservatives. According to Thompson, the president retorted by saying, I don’t give a g-d-, I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way!

During that same meeting, Thompson quotes an aide as telling Mr. Bush, There is a valid case that the provisions in this law [the Patriot Act] undermine the Constitution. Thompson quotes the president as screaming back, Stop throwing the Constitution in my face. It’s just a g-d- piece of paper!

Thompson said he talked with three people who were present for that meeting and that they all confirmed that President Bush called the Constitution a g-d- piece of paper.

Please understand, Thompson is a career journalist. To my knowledge, his news site only produces credible news. For the sake of this column, therefore, let’s deal with the possibility that what Thompson wrote was truthfully told him by people who were in attendance at that meeting (No, Thompson did not name those persons).

Before going further, let’s acknowledge that Doug Thompson is not a fan of President Bush. In fact, he is an outspoken critic of the president. But then again, it seems to me that he is an outspoken critic of most politicians. In my opinion, that’s not all bad. But that’s not the point. All that matters is the truthfulness of the report. If it’s not true, Thompson must bear responsibility.

However, what if it is true? What if President Bush actually said the things Thompson said he said? In that case, every American must bear responsibility!

If President Bush said the things Thompson accuses him of saying, it is monumentally important! It reveals a side of G.W. Bush that has been heretofore hidden from the public, a side of the president that should cause all true Christians and all lovers of liberty deep consternation!

If G.W. Bush said the things he is quoted as saying, it means that our President is not only the worst kind of liar but also a very clear and present threat to freedom!

Remember that President Bush twice put his hand on a Holy Bible and took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. Such an oath carries with it the most sacred of intentions and the most serious of consequences.

It is one thing for a president to proceed upon the conviction that his actions are constitutionally justified even though he is criticized for those convictions; it is another thing altogether for a president to feel in his heart and to verbalize with his lips that the very document which he swore an oath to uphold is nothing more than a g-d- piece of paper.

Americans must understand that the only reason (humanly speaking) that this country has been able to maintain a 200 plus year legacy of liberty and individual freedom is due to our respectful adherence (at least in principle) to the U.S. Constitution. To quote Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, I don’t have to prove that the Constitution is perfect; I just have to prove that it’s better than anything else. Amen.

The Constitution is better than anything else! It is the most magnificent governing document ever written by man! Along with our Christian heritage and common English language, the Constitution has formed the glue which has held our republic together. Rightly did Daniel Webster say, The hand that destroys the Constitution rends our Union asunder forever.

If President Bush truly believes the Constitution is just a g-d- piece of paper, he is capable of any attack against it.

Yet, there is another revelation contained in President Bush’s remarks, if they be true: his repeated blasphemy of God’s name.

It has been long known that G.W. Bush is a prolific swearer. That much we know is true. One former congressman told me of hearing Bush repeatedly use the f word. Most Christians would not want their children using that or any other swear word, but probably don’t mind too much (sadly) that their president, even one who professes to be a Christian, would use profanity. But what about repeatedly using God’s name in vain? Is that insignificant?

To many people, swearing is nothing more than everyday communication. However, using God’s name in vain is more than vulgar talking: it is blasphemy!

The Holy Scriptures are very clear on this point. The Third Commandment is emphatic: Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. Furthermore, Psalms 139:20 states, Thine enemies take thy name in vain.

We need to get something settled: George W. Bush (or any other U.S. President or Congressman) is not above the Constitution or the Word of God! And while we are at it, let’s settle something else: those conservative Christians who would allow G.W. Bush (or anyone else) to trample our Constitution and our Biblical values have become idolaters in their own hearts by giving to man (any man) the kind of preeminence that only the Bible and the U.S. Constitution deserve!

Did President Bush really say the things Doug Thompson quotes him as saying? I sincerely hope not. And if he did not, Mr. Thompson certainly owes his readers and the president an apology. However, if it proves to be true, will conservative Christians admit that everything they were led to believe about G.W. Bush was a lie, because indeed it would be?!

© 2005 Chuck Baldwin - All Rights Reserved

Chuck Baldwin is Founder-Pastor of Crossroads Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida. In 1985 the church was recognized by President Ronald Reagan for its unusual growth and influence.

Dr. Baldwin is the host of a lively, hard-hitting syndicated radio talk show on the Genesis Communications Network called, Chuck Baldwin Live This is a daily, one hour long call-in show in which Dr. Baldwin addresses current event topics from a conservative Christian point of view. Pastor Baldwin writes weekly articles on the internet www.ChuckBaldwinLive.com and newspapers.

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There is no way you can do an entire
report by the point and click method.
I think the entire country knows how old he is...
I think they use the picture of him in his uniform to underscore his military service...which I don't think hurts his cause but helps it, in this world we live in now.

As to his mind...that is kind of a cheap shot, don't you think? I haven't seen any evidence of an unsound mind. Obama is not "old" but take him away from a teleprompter or a planned statement and he stumbles and stutters with the best of them...just trying to be fair here.
Nobody said he was. You ignored the entire text
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That is not even close to the entire transcription of what he said. nm

I agree the entire interview was not there.

And I truly don't understand why.  I tried to quickly find the transcript of the entire interview, but I was unable to find it.


I wish they would have posted the entire interview because Sean and Newt argued and probably for the first time did not agree.  If I remember correctly, there was even a jovial comment at the end about Newt being closer to Alan than Sean (or something to that effect).  I don't remember the exact words.  I did watch the entire interview, and I can tell you that Sean challenged Newt on points, but Newt still disagreed with him.  The gist of what Newt said was that the President just needs to start being honest with the American people about things he does. 


If I have more time later, I will search some more and see if I can find the entire interview in case you don't believe what I have told you after watching the entire interview.


I do agree, however, that the entire interview should have been there because I think his disagreement with Sean was much more interesting than his agreement with Alan.


That would certainly apply to the entire MTStars
(Thumbs up.)
Yes...this would be the liberal viewpoint of the entire...sm
Gov. Palin interview. Not surprising.

Charlie Gibson did perform his role for the left well, didn't he? Entrapment journalism at its best.




There is absolutely nothing in the entire mess this
Their greed, and the greed of those who so stalwartly support every move they make, is the root of most of the problems we face today.
I have read his entire plan
And I think it is still a national health care plan. Slice away all the pretty words and what are you left with? Government control. Sorry, no thanks.
I don't agree with the entire thing....
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You are missing the entire point. How sad. nm
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LOL you missed the entire point...
If saving innocent lives (abortion) is your goal, then MCBUSH is certainly *not* the lesser of two evils because he is CHOMPING at the bit to start MORE fake wars that kill MORE innocent people.

Or as I said before, does it only matter if the "innocent life" being killed is American...?


Are Americans really this stupid they can't see that all these FAKE WAR deplete our own treasury, kil people, and MAKE US MORE ENEMIES??

OR, DO WE have to be brought to our knees by the CIVILIZED portion of the world before we stand up to government that invades innocent countries with OUR money using OUR sons and daughters as cannon fodder?

If you base your perceptions of the entire
populace of our country from the postings on this forum, you need to get out more.

I'm sorry they said bad things about your candidate. It obviously hurt you deeply.
Ditto your entire 2 posts...
I agree wholeheartedly. This should not be a race issue, but unfortunately that's all it has become and thats too bad. I'd like to give Obama the benefit of the doubt that he may be able to do a decent job, but I'm afraid these next 4 years are gonna be just one race issue after another, not very productive for our country. Like the posters below, where's my check?
Wrong! If you had seen the entire video, you ....sm
would have seen that Queen Elizabeth had first put her arm around Michelle Obama. You all are a bunch of crazy people. Obama is doing a terrific job, just what we elected him to do. I feel sorry for you.
Yeah - not at all like the NY Times, which has had entire
When you get up tomorrow morning, look in the mirror and say "Today, I will try NOT to be a dope".
I read that entire article and I still didn't see where it said sm

U.S. military was protecting the Hezbollah supporters. Am I really missing it?


We need to vote as if our entire future depends on it,
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Why would Obama bring his entire family
they were all just there as recently as August 7th? Michelle was an effective, seamless stand-in on the trail. Stop and think for a minute. Malia is 10 and Natasha is 7. That would make them both school age. They visited their GM 2-1/2 months ago when, although her health was frail, she was in much better shape, now that she has broken her hip and just been released from the hospital, is "gravely ill" and believed to be near the end.

A couple of things to consider. As responsible parents, it seems to me that the Obamas have all they can say grace over just trying to maintain some sense of normalcy during a heated and often hateful political campaign. Children of this age do their best when their normal routines are maintained. What makes no sense to me is the idea that they should return to Hawaii to see their GM after her health has deteriorated considerably, is weak and probably not looking that good. Personally, I would want to protect my children from seeing that, especially if it meant preserving a final memory of their grandmother during the happier days of a family vacation, rather than a deathbed scene.

I do not see anything "weird" in their decision not to take their children out of school in the middle of the week, put them on a 10-hour 4250 mile flight for a 1-day jet-lagged stay and a final farewell, and then turn them right back around again for a second 10 hour 4250 mile trip.

There is a distinct possibility that in the next 10 days, these children's lives are going to be changed forever, should they become the first children. They will be negotiating the glare of the media and in another 2 months, could be making a move from Chicago to DC into the White House. Hopefully, they will not have to be dealing with the death of their grandmother in the middle of all that.
You obviously failed to read the entire link.
to back up her claims. I don't need to research this further. I was a 40+ grown-up when the confirmation hearings were held and I remember them vividly, since it was one of the most blatent miscarriages of justice I have witnessed first-hand in my entire life. I was a bit more naive back then but now, of course, I understand completely how the Bushes operate and how this could have happened under their watch.
Not an iota of truth in this entire post, except
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You're obviously one who has missed his entire point
nm
gt read an entire thread before you start spouting off

it would save a lot of that foot taste in your mouth and egg on your face.


I never said that the transcript was not Rush's words.  What I said was a bunch of bunk and lies was the columnist's comments about Rush and I stand by that.   and for your information just because something is posted on the internet does not make it factual or true.  Do I really have to point that out to you?


Oh, and BTW I don't agree with Pat Robertson's remarks.  I am Christian, but I think Pat R. needs to shut up and retire.  He definitely does not speak for all Christians, but again, Cindy Sheehan has said the equivalent about Bush except in much, much more vulgar and hateful language.


It's really too bad you didn't take the time to read the entire transcript
of what William Bennett said, Democrat.  But I am not surprised.
I heard it to on the radio, the entire dialogue. He has been taken totally
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Get real, I read the entire article. Bush had NOTHING to do with it!
My gosh, the lengths you will go to.  Shame on you!  Obviously, German would not give him up, as Democrat says.  Next you will post that Bush is responsible for orginal sin.   And you would believe it, too!
The cost of S-CHIP for an entire year equals

Iraq = $333 million per day.  S-CHIP = $19 million per day.  Hmm, if we can "find" money for one, don't you think we can find money for the other.  Again, I ask, "What would Jesus do?"  What would the leaders of any religion recommend?  I think they would recommend taking care of our most innocent souls.


The cigarette tax would go a long way in covering the program, but I think our government could come up with money to fund the rest.


Post if you find the entire Wright sermon1
That was a very interesting article. I've read a number of articles on Huffington Post - I think tends towards liberal but - to me - seems like fair and informative info!

If anyone comes across a transcript of Pastor Wright's entire sermon, I would definitely be interested in reading it and seeing all the Sound Bites in context! Please post if you do. As we know from our work, context means everything.




Oh yeah, judge an entire party by a few bad apples.
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I posted the entire article, but I MUST be LYING! LOL! Link inside. sm
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/8/30/230457.shtml
That's the trouble with liberals, they think the entire world is shades of gray.
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This carries no weight without the name of the publication and the entire article with byline.
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Humor, in this case, seems to have skipped an entire political party.
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You haven't said an intelligent unpetulant thing in your entire post.
I see that you feel it necessary to point out a typographical error as a means of communication.  It isn't. One need only read this one page to get an idea of who you are. You are an angry, petulant, conspiracy theorist whose main job seems to be guard dog for this board so that not one cogent thought from anyone other than yourself and a very small group of yes men gets through.  You have succeeded.  You present to the world the exact picture of everything that is wrong with your party today and I thank you immensely for that.  I could not have exposed you any better had I tried. 
Governing a very small population is different from being VP of an entire country...still no compari
sorry...baby with special needs should come first. I know if I had a special needs baby I would stop working for a while to care for that baby. The baby needs special care, it's not a baby you can just dump on just anybody.
This poster's hatred for your president has coloured their entire world view!
It's obvious there is no amount of reasoning or cajoling that will bring them 'round.  I realised that immediately.  But they are sad for me..I had a fine chuckle on that one. 
How predictable that I read an entire thread and am capable of forming an independent conclusion?
that's quite predictable.  You're obviously not one of those people.
The post I quoted was the entire post. It was not taken out of context. sm
I imagine there are as many emotions and thoughts going on with our troops as possible and each does not feel the same as the other, which is obvious by the posts here.