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Ok, you confirmed it - politics sucks!

Posted By: mt on 2009-03-11
In Reply to: He can say whatever he wants about "line by line" but...sm - MT and worn out

No message really, just that politics sucks and their all crooked.


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Either one sucks. Politics at its worse.
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This sucks! I better get out of here...nm
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You know that just sucks!
I'm sorry but it does. They need to just make it legal and then be done with it. Everyone else can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned.

Jeeze- you love someone, you want to marry them, what is the big friggin deal!

As my mama used to say - "Mind your own dang business". Well she used worse words than dang, but sure you get the idea.
The word *confirmed* strikes me.
Thompson said he talked with three people who were present for that meeting and that they all confirmed that President Bush called the Constitution a g-d- piece of paper.

I believe Hastert confirmed this several times.
It's become a real witch hunt now. 
Wow - if I couldn't decide before this has really confirmed it for me.

We watched C-span so that we could be assured nothing would be cut out.  Then we went to MSNBC to see their comments and then FOX to hear their comments.  Sure enough MSNBC was filled with a bunch of sour grapes.  What were they saying about her speech?  Nothing.  They were just upset because she called the media on what they've been reporting about her and they didn't like it.  They want to keep bashing and putting her down and have nothing said back to them.  They are so biased it makes me sick.


This is my likes & dislikes about Sarah Palin.  I like that she is not from Washington.  I like that she has been governor of the state, has passed laws, has made Alaska a better state that works for the people.  I like that she got rid of all the wasteful things (fancy jet, personal chef, chauffer).  I like that she can stand tough when she needs to.  She's knows how to get things done and she's not afraid to go up against the "big boys".  I like that she firmly believes in the 2nd ammendment of the constitution, the right to bear arms, and I like the fact that she knows how to use arms.  I like that she cares about America more than she cares about herself.  I like that her husband owns a business and she has helped him work his commercial fishing business.  So I know she is not for more taxes.  I like that she took from the big oil companies and gave the money rightfully back to the people who deserved it (the Alaskan citizens).  I like that she is a mother, has kids in school, has been to the PTA. That means she is aware of the education system and I like that she got involved to make the schools a better place for all kids.  I like the fact that she and her husband decided to have a child knowing he would have down's syndrome and I like the fact that she doesn't wear it on her sleeve and when she talked about her baby tonight she said our newest addition, a beautiful baby boy (not a beautiful Down's syndrome baby).  I like the fact that her daughter is pregnant.  To me it shows she is as real of a person and her family is the same as most all other Americans and facing the same thing all other americans are.  I like the fact that she was not born into a wealthy family, she worked hard to get where she is at.  I like the fact that for all the snips and nasty comments the democrats said against her and John McCain last week she can dish it right back (and with facts! - which by the way is all the liberal media focused on tonight (how much she picked on the other side)).  I like the fact that I know she and her husband sit down at night after their kids go to bed and they talk about real issues (his business, their kids schooling, etc etc).  I think she is a wonderful, hard working person.  Very knowlegeable about issues (has to be to be a governor).  I like the fact that she does have more experience than Obama does, which because he is running for President he should have more experience then someone running for VP.  Tonight after her speech DH & I both said we need to move to Alaska and have someone like her as our governor.


What I don't like...maybe she's a little too "religious" for me and I've heard that she wants to teach creationalism in schools.  BUT (I wanted to make sure I put that in big letters...but) I can't confirm that and I'm not sure if that is a rumor put out by the liberals, so I really can't say I don't like that about her because I don't know if it's true.  Just keep religion out of politics and I'm happy with that.


So far I can't see anything I dislike about her (which is a far cry from 3 days ago when I couldn't stand her because all I was listening to was MSNBC and CNN).  Now I'm researching and reading more about her accomplishments.


I think she's a wonderful person and will make a fine VP.  Also I do have to say I've been learning more about JM over the past couple days and I have a lot more confidence and respect for him as our next president.  I loved R. Guliani's speech and Mike Huckabee's and the Governor of Hawaii (forget her name).  They all gave fine speeches.


So that's my opion.  To the one just blabbing about how our taxes are going to be raised, blah, blah, blah.  It's all scare tactics.  When the democrats are in is always when people pay more in taxes.  Government grows, jobs go overseas, America becomes less secure, military gets cut way back  Remember NAFTA because of Democrat Billy who shipped jobs overseas and people lost good jobs and homes.  Then he turned around and created these "false" jobs where people had to take jobs paying 1/2 of what they were getting paid but because they paid them so low he could create more jobs giving a "false" impression that he created all these jobs (these people still had to go on food stamps).  Remember how your taxes were raised because of Democrat Billy who jumped my tax bracket from 21% to 37% and even then at the end of the year we had to pay an additional $2500 cos we didn't pay enough to support all of his programs.  Remember Kosovo, Somalia, etc.  Remember how Democrat Billy gutted the military which made our country less safe, hence the first attack on the world trade centers.  Remember how Democrat Billy had the chance to capture OBL but he didn't.  Remember the lies.  Remember how Democrat Hillary was trying to socialize health care.  Some people may think Bush is "one fry short of a happy meal" but at least our taxes went down, and we had job security and our military was built up and I once again had faith in the country,  Sure the country is not perfect.  Sure President Bush has made some real "dufus" decisions and mistakes, but it's nothing compared to the mess the country was in the last time the Democrats were in office.


That is why I'm voting for McCain/Palin.  I've got my fire resistant suit on. 


The thing that sucks about this election

is that I think McCain is trying to be too polite for a coupld of reasons.  1) He has been said to have a temper problem and I think he has been trying to be nice to prove he can control his temper.  2)  This election is different in that we have two candidates from two different races and the race card is already being waved by some people.  I think McCain is trying to be nice so this card isn't thrown around more than it is now.  If McCain really hammered Obama on everything......they would be screaming racism like crazy.  JMO though.


I think it is time for McCain to get down to business and tear Obama a new butt.  Go at him and go at his hard and fast.  Point out things and corner him.  McCain has to stop being so polite.


China sucks. Too bad our country keeps on
They're gross polluters.

Asian countries are over-fishing the earth's oceans.

China's population keeps expanding by the billions.

Their human rights policies suck, and so do all their tainted/poisoned food products.

They eat dogs and cats. And they don't even have the common decency to kill them before they skin them alive.

They contribute to the poaching of endangered species by buying things made from them (Tigers, elephant tusks, etc.)

They might have been a great culture thousands of years ago, but their glory days are over. Now that country is just cruel and dishonest.
Cabinet is nominated by president, then confirmed by Senate
White House Staff is different.
She was in state politics at the time, not national politics......
how much foreign policy experience did Bill have when he went to the presidency having only been a governor? The same as Sarah Palin. Because he was concentrating on his job...the state of Arkansas (and Paula Jones and what was that stripper's name?). Sarah Palin was concentrating on the state of Alaska.

Good grief. lol. Why don't you poll all the governors in all the states in the union and ask them how much they think about foreign policy?
That's right. Unfortunately, that's politics.nm
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Now, this is politics.....for sure......

 


 


                                             


 


All politics aside...I do want to wish everyone a...
very happy Thanksgiving, and I hope you are all able to enjoy it with family and friends...and if some of us have to work, here's hoping they keep the leftovers warm.  Happy Thanksgiving!
Politics... LOL
I think it just depends on the person.. some people ACTUALLY dont give a crap about them... at all. which to me is totally foreign... that's ALMOST as bad as being the opposing side to me haha. Luckily my family (or at least the ones i actually spend time with, my immediate ones) we all feel exactly the same way, but even we can get loud and annoying while even agreeing with each other! haha. politics is one thing that I get completely heated about... i sometimes wish i didn't care, but i mean, it spreads to all aspects of my life ya know? DISCLAIMER: sorry about the punctuation, i NEVER use it when i am just relaxing. it does not reflec the kind of MT i am. haha
Politics
Not enough crackerjack on the shelf for this election. At least you get a prize.
Fun with Politics

theonion.com


Today Now!: How To Pretend You Give A S**t About The Election


There are so many funny ones at this site it was hard to decide on one!  You'll have to supply the 2 letters above which were refused.  What could they be?!


See what I mean? You can't keep it about politics..
you have to stay in your close-minded, one-sided arguements becasue you don't like to hear the truth. That's okay - you stay on your side and I'll stay on mine and we'll just agree to disagree. And about the bridge, I'll take it - I can donate the profit to the Cancer Society. Thanks so much!!!
MTs and Politics
I never realized how many MTs were *********************** conservative ********until I came to this political board.  When you advertise that you are voting for the McCain/Palin ticket, you might as well as raise your hand and say "I am *************
say anything politics...

People who think Governor Sarah Palin didn't handle some "gotcha" questions well in a couple of interviews show no interest in how she compares to the Democrats' Vice Presidential candidate, Senator Biden.


Joe Biden is much more of the kind of politician the mainstream media like. Not only is he a liberal's liberal, he answers questions far more glibly than Governor Palin— grossly inaccurately in many cases, but glibly.


Moreover, this is a long-standing pattern with Biden. When he was running for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination back in 1987, someone in the audience asked him what law school he attended and how well he did.


Flashing his special phony smile, Biden said, "I think I have a much higher IQ than you do." He added, "I went to law school on a full academic scholarship" and "ended up in the top half" of the class.


But Biden did not have a full academic scholarship. Newsweek reported: "He went on a half scholarship based on need. He didn't finish in the 'top half' of his class. He was 76th out of 85."


Add to Obama and Biden House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and you have all the ingredients for a historic meltdown. Let us not forget that the Roman Empire did decline and fall, blighting the lives of millions for centuries.


To find out more about Thomas Sowell and read features by other Creators Syndicate columnists and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate web page at www.creators.com. Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305. His Web site is www.tsowell.com.


 


All politics aside....

It is very sad that Obama's grandmother passed.


For what it is worth....I don't criticize him for not stopping his campaigning.  He did stop earlier to go and see her, and I feel like she would want him to continue.


At any rate, my prayers for his family in what has to be a very difficult time.


That's politics...

What does this have to do with politics?
I see absolutely nothing in this news story that has anything to do with politics. The only reason you posted this was to try to incite bigotry and hatred towards Muslims. Fortunately, your little plan didn't work and you didn't get the response you wanted.
What does this have to do with politics?
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What does this have to do with politics?
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Politics aside, I know exactly where...

...you're coming from, and it brings back a sad but very funny memory.


My mom died in 1982, and after the viewing, my cousin's husband's sister (no relation to me), whom I had never even met previously, came up to the minister, where my father and I were standing, and very seriously and sincerely thanked him for such a beautiful "urology."  My dad kicked my shoe a little bit, and all I could do was just immediately excuse myself because I knew if I looked at him, I wouldn't be able to NOT laugh.


Knowing my mother, she would have done the same thing -- kick my shoe a little bit -- as if to say, "Did you HEAR that?!"


I've always felt that humor truly does provide good medicine, and on what was undoubtedly one of the saddest days of my entire life, it injected itself in a most unlikely source and time in a way I'll never forget.


As far as Norm Crosby, I remember him well and will always relate to and appreciate his humor. 


Politics aside, I know exactly where...

...you're coming from, and it brings back a sad but very funny memory.


My mom died in 1982, and after the viewing, my cousin's husband's sister (no relation to me), whom I had never even met previously, came up to the minister, where my father and I were standing, and very seriously and sincerely thanked him for such a beautiful "urology."  My dad kicked my shoe a little bit, and all I could do was just immediately excuse myself because I knew if I looked at him, I wouldn't be able to NOT laugh.


Knowing my mother, she would have done the same thing -- kick my shoe a little bit -- as if to say, "Did you HEAR that?!" 


I've always felt that humor truly does provide good medicine, and on what was undoubtedly one of the saddest days of my entire life, it injected itself from a most unlikely source at a time and in a way I'll never forget.


As far as Norm Crosby, I remember him well and will always relate to and appreciate his humor. 


Don't know if this is really politics, but -

I am in a position to buy a new car (not going brand new, but 2008) and pay CASH for it.  After doing much research on the internet and deciding on the car I wanted, I then proceeded to find the "best" deals in a 150-mile area from my home.  Well, the 2nd best price actually came from the dealer that is only 20 miles from me, so I went there to talk to them.


Told them I was paying cash and asked if they could do a better deal to match the other dealership price about 50 miles away (mind you, this is a CHRYSLER dealership) if I wrote them a check and left with the car that day.  They said no, that the only way they made any money on cars was through financing and getting kickbacks so that the price they had was what I had to pay.


Now, if cars are not selling and people do not have any money to buy and banks are not financing right now, don't you think the smart thing would have been to match that other price and take my cash instead of letting me walk away?  That seems to me to be just greedy and just about shows you why the country is in the shape it is in. 


It seems as if they are saying if I can't make $100, I ain't gonna take the $90!!!


well, this is politics and it will always be like this!.
Otherwise we would only have 1 party.
I don't think this had anything to do with politics.
But he definitely was in need of some mental help. This was the same man that tried to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve board in 1981.

Sounds to me more like he was a paranoid, anti-semetic, anti-government,racist man who finally reached his breaking point. I think it's unfair to imply that even though he was part of what is classified as a hate group, that that automatically makes him right-wing.
Politics is bad enough with the mud
slinging between the two parties.  They just need to leave the kids out of this.  So Bristol Palin had premarital sex.  So what!  I did too.  Big whoop.  I was just lucky enough not to get pregnant.  We all make mistakes.  It is just cruel and mean to keep bashing the Palin family like this.  I really do feel bad for them.  I'd feel just as bad if this were Chelsea Clinton or one of Obama's two daughters.  It is just wrong.  Letterman was out of line.  Like I said before, there is a difference between poking fun and being downright hateful and mean.  Leave the kids out of this!!!!
posting politics

reality check... I don't usually post here on the political forum, I prefer a bigger board.  You seem to be a big fish in a small pond, whereas, I prefer to be a small fish in a big pond... fresher ideas and less bullying from the likes of big fish like you.


I dont believe in PUSHING my ideas on others.  I dont believe in killing our young people, I do NOT believe in George W. Bush.


Peace.


 


POLITICS NOT PERSONAL
I believe you are mistaken. It is almost impossible to carry on a political discussion without getting personal. Political alignments are based on personal beliefs. And as for you trials and tribulations, she said nothing about what you've gone through in your life with the exception of, you know nothing of persecution.
Business politics

You nailed it when you said business.  However, if a conservative had said the same thing you and Lurker just stated you would have disputed that.  Liberals swear up and down Murdoch is a conservative Republican, but the truth is Murdoch is all about Murdoch and what sells.  His politics is business.


This is bigger than politics....sm
A friend of mines posted this on another site and wants me to share the word. Her husband is on assignment in Iraq now.

As you all probably know I am a very proud wife of a Military Soldier. It is an honor, privelege and the toughest duty anyone woman can have. At times my fears get the best of me. And although I cannot imagine my life without my husband, I am in a marriage where his life is on the line daily and I have to remain strong not only for myself but for our 4 sons. This is going to really hit you emotionally and some of you may not even get through however you will see the purpose at the end. I live each day like its my last and this is the reason why.

Last week, while traveling to Chicago on business, I noticed a Marine sergeant traveling with a folded flag, but did not put two and two together. After we boarded our flight, I turned to the sergeant, who'd been invited to sit in First Class (across from me), and inquired if he was heading home.

No, he responded.


Heading out I asked?


No. I'm escorting a soldier home.


Going to pick him up?


No. He is with me right now. He was killed in Iraq ..

I'm taking him home to his family.



The realization of what he had been asked to do hit me like a punch to the gut. It was an honor for him. He told me that, although he didn't know the soldier, he had delivered the news of his passing to the soldier's family and felt as if he knew them after many co nversations in so few days. I turned back to him, extended my hand, and said, Thank you. Thank you for doing what you do so my family and I can do what we do.




Upon landing in Chicago the pilot stopped short of the gate and made the following announcement over the intercom.



Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to note that we have had the honor of having Sergeant Steeley of the United States Marine Corps join us on this flight. He is escorting a fallen comrade back home to his family. I ask that you please remain in your seats when we open the forward door to allow Sergeant Steeley to deplane and receive his fellow soldier. We will then turn off the seat belt sign.


Without a sound, all went as requested. I noticed the sergeant saluting the casket as it was brought off the plane, and his action made me realize that I am proud to be an American.


So here's a public Thank You to our military Men and
Women for what you do so we can live the way we do .

Red Fridays.

Very soon, you will see a great many people wearing Red every Friday. The reason? Americans who support our troops used to be called the silent majority. We are no longer silent, and are voicing our love for God, country and home in record breaking numbers. We are not organized, boisterous or overbearing.

Many Americans, like you, me and all our friends,
simply want to recognize that the vast majority of
Americasupports our troops. Our idea of showing
solidarity and support for our troops with dignity and respect starts this Friday -- and continues each and every Friday until the troops all come home, sending a deafening message that ... every red-blooded American who supports our men and women afar, will wear something red.

By word of mouth, press, TV -- let's make the United Stateson every Friday a sea of red much like a homecoming football game in the bleachers. If every one of us who loves this country will share this with acquaintances, coworkers, friends, and family, it will not be long before the USA is covered in RED and it will let our troops know the once silent majority is on their side more than ever, certainly more than the media lets on.

The first thing a soldier says when asked What can we do to make things better for you? is ..We need your support and your prayers. Let's get the word out and lead with class and dignity, by example, and wear something red every Friday.


WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!!
Politics of fear?
Intrigued by what is scaring you and why. A few questions. Politics of fear. Which party embodies and promotes this concept? Why? Whose agenda does it serve? Who benefits? More importantly, who doesn't? Visions of terrorists licking their chops with itchy trigger fingers? Where is this coming from? Media? Party rhetoric? Bush/Cheney/McCain? If you think they will attack "no matter who the president will be" then the politics of fear and its manipulation is working well on you and we are all doomed to repeat that anguish. So you fight fear with more fear and leave that weapon in the hands of a hot head? Does that scare you more or make you feel more safe? Do you want to base your vote on a surrender to fear?

Now, how about that other conference table vision? You fear the Obama cult? What is it that they are following? Hope? Vision? A different approach? What does the alternative have to offer? An alliance of diplomacy?

While doing your research, it might help you to go to the following link and read it in it's entirety, including all the links embedded under At a Glance. Would be very interested if you are still having those visions and feeling as frightened after your research.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/foreignpolicy/#diplomacy

Rove in politics
I think above all else Rove is loyal to the Republian party, above any particular candidate. I don't think McCain was his choice, but that won't stop him from trying to get him elected now that he is the nominee.

Now, say what you will about Rove. I personally think he is despicable, but the man knows politics and voting trends. He said McCain needed to pick Romney as VP to win, so it will be interesting to see whether or not that prediction was right (inferring that not picking Romney means not winning).
He is rising above the politics

“This is a time when we have to do away with our party politics and we have to act as Americans,” he said as fellow Republicans converged on their convention city to nominate him for the White House.


Wow, what a concept: Act as Americans. 


I think he's got something there.  I know, I know, your guy didn't think of that one first so it doesn't count.  I thought O was about the change?  Change your bashing into something constructive.  Now that would be refreshing.


 


Demoguttercratic politics...
true disciples of the faith.  Do you guys have a class you attend to learn nasty, or does it come natural?  Just wondering...
Identity Politics

The libs created this and now have no clue how to play the hand they dealt all these years.  All the conservatives were automatically racists because of this, that, or whatever.  I don't need anyone telling me what I have in my heart.  And for the record, I do have more than just white friends.


Frankly, I'm loving them squirm.


Who knows with Chicago politics.........sm
I had heard that the Rev. Jesse Jackson was interested in Obama's seat but I don't know if he was tied up in this particular fiasco or not.

I would imagine Obama might have something else for Ms. Jarr to do in his administration. Time will tell on that.
In is just a cycle in politics.....
before the democratic convention, during it, everyone was blown away by Obama, because he is so charismatic...it really did not matter much what he said. Right now, it is just that Sarah Palin is so different from your average politician. In fact, she is the exception to the rule. That is why people are fascinated with her right now. Conservatives are excited because she is a strong conservative woman who is politically astute, yet has not lost touch with the people she serves. She believes that governors, senators, representatives, Pres and VP all should serve with a servant's heart and remember who put them in office. That is completely different from the politics of Washington. She puts country first, as does her running mate. They both want Washington to be of the people again. Not of the lobbyist and special interests. To do the business of the people, not further political careers. It is supposed to be public service, and that is what they want to bring back. McCain laid it out brilliantly in the latter part of his acceptance speech. That is real change, and it is change I can believe in...

The widespread interest in Sarah Palin will dissipate somewhat when people know more about her. But what won't dissipate is how she has governed and how McCain, with her support, will make the changes in washington that need changing.
Gutter politics. Anything goes. Just when you think...
the bottom of the barrell is reached....they take a shovel and keep on digging.
Where are the politics in this post?
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And where are the politics (of truth) in yours?
by a big fat old windbag. Don't you get tired of always professing to know it ALL, all the time? I mean, don't you eventually just bore yourself to tears, like you're doing to everyone else on this board who can't write one sentence without you jumping in and trying to shoot it down? Talk about a case of 'little ___ syndrome'.
it's politics. deal with it.

Wow, that sure got your panties all in a wad, now didn't it. 


Wonder why    ?


"gotcha" politics at its best....sm
why is it nobody plays "gotcha" with the dem candidates?


Just keep it about the politics, not the posters.
If the personal attacks keep going, nobody will be left to disagree...then we'll have a pretty boring one-sided Politics board....nobody wants that:-)

Fight away, but please keep it about the issues and/or candidates and not about each other.
seems to have more to do with religion than politics nm
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So the post really is about Sam and nothing about politics?

Playground Politics
And there it is, ladies and gentlemen, the old 'I am rubber, you are glue' argument rears its childish head.
Chicago politics

It's no secret how corrupt Chicago politics are (& Illinois as a whole).  They have the highest tax in the nation--10.25%!  My sister lives there, and earns an excellent salary, yet gets taxed to death.  Chicago is also quite fond of nepotism as well.  We're talking dead voters and also taxes for all kinds of environmental stuff.  Let us now forget the state tax as well.


Totally militant politics!