Okie dokie. Then I apologize to gourdpainter. Was...
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Okie dokie. sm
Must be doing your research on the star planet nebula or something, because Hillary's health fiasco was well written about on both sides. As far as conservativism dying out, I don't recall I said I was a conservative. As usual, you make assumptions because I would just really like you to stop posting untruths/bad information. You talk along the "One World Order" line. You had best be careful what you wish for.
Okie dokie. I am just reminded of the old phrase...
be careful what you ask for. But I do have a question...Obama has said forcefully that if he ends Iraq the war will go on in Afghanistan...so you are still going to have a war. Where the war is makes the difference? We are still going to be spending billions. The fact that it will be in Afghanistan and not Iraq makes the difference?
We are getting ready to spend billions bailing out the mess that Democrats created. No, Republicans have actually been bringing this mess up, screaming warnings about it, and the only thing this Democratic congress has done was pass a housing bill this time that further encouraged giving out those bad loans. Republicans were against it, but the Dems have the majority. Soooo...here we are. I do blame one Republican, George Bush, for signing it. He should have vetoed it.
How you can ignore something that huge and trust the fox to run the chicken house...I will be the first to say...I certainly do not understand it. But your vote is YOURS, and you should use it however you wish to.
okie dokie....I will be the lone ranger optimist once again...
I can only hope you are wrong and I am right. As you say...only time will tell.
Okie dokie. We agree to disagree. Someone should speak for the babies...
and I would be one of those. Because I think they deserve a shot at life just like you do. You don't. Your prerogative.
Well, mine is definitely Okie. Never lost it.
Guess I haven't been gone long enough to lose it. I think NE Oklahoma/NW Arkansas accents pretty similar. So we probably do. I say "coke," (the Okie all purpose word for Coke, Pepsi, DP, lol) these folks up here say "soda." Drives me nuts. Soda is made by Arm & Hammer. LOL. The very FIRST thing I do when I get back to my old home town is get a chicken-fried steak, mashed potatoes and white gravy. These people up here don't even know what white gravy is. lol. Traveling for a few years has been real educational though. Still...ready to go home. :)
Okie doke - point taken on that one.
I still say that no matter what channel you watch, the opinion shows (and none of them are really news shows, only opinion) make you think about what's going on, regardless of whether you agree or disagree.
And I guess since Beck was kissing Bush's but all those years, it's a good think Olberman was around to kick it! =) All depends on whose ox is being gored.
Okie doke - point taken on that one.
I still say that no matter what channel you watch, the opinion shows (and none of them are really news shows, only opinion) make you think about what's going on, regardless of whether you agree or disagree.
And I guess since Beck was kissing Bush's but all those years, it's a good think Olberman was around to kick it! =) All depends on whose ox is being gored.
Okay, then I apologize. sm
I was just going from past experience. Merry Christmas!
Sorry, CG. I apologize....
I was just curious as to why you posted that, but none of my business, as Lucy pointed out. So...sorry. Ignore my post.
And I do apologize....sm
I assumed that your original post was about manmade global warming, since it was from a liberal media site, that didn't bring up the article.
You are correct. Global warming exists. Naturally occuring global warming. NASA is correct on this also.
Al Gore/ala an Inconvenient Truth, is not correct. No facts back him up.
No need to for you to apologize at all.
I totally read that with a "tone of voice" that you certainly did not intend. The fault is totally mine.
Have a great evening. :)
No need to apologize...(sm)
we all get frustrated on here from time to time. As far as Obama picking pubs for positions, there's the sec of defense, Robert Gates, and Lahood for transportation, and I think a few others. Someone said something about the pubs being picked are just token pubs, but I think if he is just going for token picks, it wouldn't be for sec of defense. I think this pick said a lot about Obama and his intentions.
I really do hope that he does listen to pubs as well as dems. As a poster mentioned earlier, there are good ideas in both parties. I'm not trying to paint a rosy picture here, but we really need to find some kind of common ground, and I think (whether successful or not) Obama is trying to create that kind of environment.
BTW, I like Rachel Maddow much better too. She isn't as blatant as Olberman, but she is a little sarcastic. LOL. I picked Olberman's video because it showed Obama going to the dinner as I was counting on someone to say that it didn't happen because it wasn't in conservative news. While I do think Olberman is funny at times, I mostly just go with the quotes and video he presents and kind of tune the commentary out.
Noone said the UN should apologize...nm
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Oh yes they do want UN to apologize.
North Korea threatened Wednesday to conduct nuclear and missile tests unless the U.N. apologizes for criticizing its April 5 rocket launch, dramatically raising its stake in the worsening standoff over its atomic programs.
Pyongyang's Foreign Ministry said in a statement the country "will be compelled to take additional self-defensive measures" unless the U.N. Security Council apologizes immediately. "The measures will include nuclear tests and test-firings of intercontinental ballistic missiles."
Apologize For What?
Barack Obama: 'arrogant US has been dismissive' to allies
President Barack Obama has offered an apology for the Bush era, declaring that America had shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive towards its allies.
His speech in Strasbourg went further than any United States president in history in criticising his own countrys action while standing on foreign soil........
Our European 'arrogance' in alphabetical order
SEE IMAGE BELOW:
If I added correctly the count is 104,366 dead and we have to watch any American elected leader who apologizes to Europe and the Middle East that our country is "arrogant"!
No need to apologize. It's
...crankiness that comes from watching the country being torn down piece by piece by the Monster in the White House.
On checking, it was not you and I apologize.
It was someone else below. So sorry.
Again, I apologize, Moderator.
Thank you for deleting the offensive word; thereby letting me know that it was inappropriate. I will be more careful in the future. Thank you for your patience and understanding!
sorry for overreacting.....I do apologize.
I just don't understand why where I presently live or the fact my husband is career military...why you think that has anything to do with what I post. There are Democrats in the military and there are Democrats in small towns who see things like you apparently see them....you don't think so? I also said I am not from Pennsylvania, I just happen to live there now because that is where the career has us at this point. Your life is polar opposite..meaning what? You live in a city, not close to anyone in the military....? What things about your life make your view of politics different than mine? And why do you think my life has to do with how I feel about politics? Just trying to learn here, not be confrontational.
Then I humbly apologize, had the same sig as you
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If it was not you, then I deeply apologize.
Must have been a different Shelly. I am sure that there is more than one. Have a good day!
I apologize for the confusion.
Please see my other post in response to yours. 
It was professional to apologize..
what are you missing here? They both explained they WAY they meant to say something. This is long over. Geez, it isn't that confusing!
Right on! Obama would rather apologize for his
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I'd be delighted to apologize to Democrat.
Could someone just please tell me why one is necessary and how my name wound up in your post?
Or are you just so blinded by your hatred of me that you can't see straight any more when reading these boards?
You poor dear. You should really see about getting rid of that hatred. It will eat you alive. 
I certainly apologize for the dear part.
It's part of my southern culture. I have never known anyone to have a problem with it. I am so very sorry to hear that the deaths of 20,000 men means nothing to you. Debated ad nauseum? I have seen no debate about this. There is no debate because it is true. The fact that the North Vietnamese say it is true should count for something, but I know how blinded some people can be. Have a nice day.
I apologize if I misinterpreted your post...
and I did not mean to be insulting. But...unless democratic platform principles have changed and now include redistribution of wealth, I do know the difference. Redistribution of wealth is socialist bordering on Marxist, and Obama has already said he was going to do it, in the form of the government taking the profits of a business and redistributing that money to people who did nothing to earn it. That is a dangerous precedent and starts headlong down the slippery slope of far left socialism. That has nothing to do with a kinder, gentler America taking care of each other.
Also...with all ue respect...social programs have run amok in this country and the main thing they have done is destroy ambition and the will to better oneself, ideals that made this country great. That hard work can move you up in the world...and it can.
And it has gotten to the point that the middle tax has been taxed into the "poor" class, trying to pay for all the social programs. I looked at the list of what Obama says he will do. If he does do those things, he will have to raise taxes, and not just on people who make $250,000 a year or more. And if you think about it logically...many of the small businesses in this country are at that income threshold. But just because you make $250,000 on paper does not mean you get home with that. The "rich" in this country already pay over 90% of all income taxes that go into the government. Seriously...don't you think that is enough? I am by no means rich, but I think that is enough. Obama is a Democrat, but he is also a socialist. Look at his history, who he has associated with throughout his adult life who share the same mode of thinking. Socialism never works. Invariably ends in dictatorship. Any time the government gets in the business of taking away something from the private sector saying it is going to redistribute to people who did not earn it...it leads to dictatorship. Cuba is a good example...Venezuela another one.
Believe me, I know all Democrats are not socialists. And I know advocating social programs is not the same thing as advocating socialism. However, what Obama says he is going to do IS socialism, far left socialism. The fact that he is a Democrat has nothing to do with his socialist tendencies. He is a socialist who also happens to be a Democrat.
I apologize,,,,I should not have invoked the SP issue...
i am sorry.
Sometimes you have to put pieces together to get a picture. That is why I suggested first, finding out what Marxist theory is. And then start looking at that thread throughout Obama's life. Until I started going to the internet and researching, I had no idea. I had seen the name Alinsky in some of the stuff about his community organizing, but it did not click with me. When I went to the internet and started looking...there is a lot of information there. Shying away from opinion and he said she said, and just looking at facts...and then looking at the way the marxist theory is woven into his whole hope and change thing, the redistribution of wealth...and then to have Alinsky's son say he learned well from his father...
All I can say is, I am an Independent too, and if this was John McCain or Hillary Clinton (come to find out she was one of his students too) or Sarah Palin or anyone else...it would give me pause.
We are not talking about a senate seat where there is not much power to implement change...we are talking about the President of the United States with a majority democratic congress.
Everything I read in the article I posted at the top just makes sense. It all falls into place.
Definitely enough for this Independent to sit up and take notice. No one else has to if they do not want to. I am continuing to research.
Of course. I apologize. It is the nature of the left...
to ridicule. Part of the DNC DNA. What WAS I thinking.
It is easier to forgive someone when they apologize first......nm
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You should all apologize to Sarah and Bristol Palin....
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/dailykos-rumors-debunked-here-is-sarah-palin-pregnancy-photo-on-feb-10th-2008/
geezzzz, people.
I thought with the posts it would be obvious...so I apologize.
But Nancy Pelosi is not going to remove the people from their posts. Dodd and Frank should both be removed. They have not learned a thing from this; they tried to put an earmark for ACORN in the first draft of the bill. They have learned nothing. And no one seems to care. I just don't get it. Absolutely do not get it. The democratic congress will not police themselves, and their party will not police them either. I don't understand it. I don't understand how democrats on this board demanded accountability from republicans on every issue, from the Bush administration, and are absolutely unwilling to hold democrats reponsible when they are. Explain to me why that is. I would love to know why that is.
Why should Obama apologize for Franks or Dodd? He is not...sm
their keeper. John Glenn and John McCain did not receive a formal reprimand but were judged to have "poor judgement" with their naive support quashing an investigation of the doings of Charles Keating in the 1980's whose financial doings eventually caused the savings and loan crisis just 2 years later. $180 billion that time, probably more with inflation than now. Bill Clinton dug us out of that hole, and here we are again.
As I said above, come back to this same board and apologize when he does a great job!
Geesh! Give the guy a chance already before you knock him!
Did you ever hear dubya apologize for the crooks and...
incompetent morons he hired? NO. Heck, he wanted to appoint Harriet Myers to the supreme court. Talk about STUPID. Heckuva job brownie. Outing CIA agent. Scooter Libby. Jack Abramoff and his dastardly deeds - need I add to the list? Choke on that Kool-Aid, PLEASE!
Nope, you won't hear dubya apologize,
but that's all in the past, as are the crooks and incompetent morons Clinton surrounded himself with for eight years - no apologies there either, by the way. We're talking about Obama now and he's already appointed one tax evader and tried to appoint another, and he's only been in office two weeks! No Kool-Aid needed to see those whoppers!
I need to apologize for any posts I made tonight
I'm so tired of trying to make a living but betwen the state and federal government taking it all away when we get finally get near the top of things I really, really get nasty sometimes. My grandchildren and great-grandchildren will be paying for what we could not stop; i.e., stimuls, TARP, and everything else coming down the pike, and I don't think any of it is right. I feel our country is down the tubes and there is no getting out of it. I hope I am wrong, but between the state and federal government and what they are creating, they will take, or try to take, everything we all worked hard to achieve. Big Brother has come to the USA even if it did take more than 25 years. You all know this country is going down but what, really, is anyone doing to stop it? Not much, because we are not a unified body, and unless we do band together and try, we are doomed. JMHO
Disclaimer: I will not apoligize for any answers I post because I feel they were not out of line.
I've been reading up on your illness. I apologize. I realize now how truly ill you all are. I wi
pray for your souls. Seriously. I'm not laughing, and I'm not joking because I truly feel sorry for you. I won't answer you any more because that seems to only make you sicker.
Religious Addiction: a mental illness with deadly social consequences.
by TrysDan Roberts
I do believe there is a Great Spirit responsible for the creation of the universe, but unfortunately, there have been those who have been the victims of the exploitation of this higher power.
When George W. Bush and the Christian Reich took control of the most powerful country in the world, The United States of America, a very dangerous virus began spreading throughout the country.
The virus: Christian Fascism.
This lethal threat to democracy is now infecting the world, ie...the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
To understand the Right Wing Zealots, it is important to acquire an understanding of what it means to be a religious addict. The following identifies important signs of religious addiction:
SYMPTOMS OF RELIGIOUS ADDICTION as written by Paschal Baute
Paschal Baute is a co-founder and facilitator of the Spiritual Growth Network of Kentucky. He is an organizational psychologist working with leadership and team development and personnel screening. His business web page will be found at www.paschalbaute.com
Inability to think, doubt, or question religious information and/or authority
Black-and-white, good/bad, either/or simplistic thinking: one way or the other
Shame-based belief that you aren't good enough or you aren't doing it right
Magical thinking that God will fix you/ do it all, without serious work on your part
Scrupulosity: rigid obsessive adherence to rules, codes of ethics, or guidelines
Uncompromising judgmental attitudes: readiness to find fault or evil out there
Compulsive or obsessive praying, going to church or crusades, quoting scripture
Unrealistic financial contributions
Believing that sex is dirty; believing our bodies or physical pleasures are evil
Compulsive overeating and/or excessive fasting
Conflict and argumentation with science, medicine, and education
Progressive detachment from the real work, isolation and breakdown of relationships
Psychosomatic illness: back pains, sleeplessness, headaches, hypertension
Manipulating scripture or texts, feeling specially chosen, claiming to receive special messages from God
Maintaining a religious high, trance-like state, keeping a happy face (or the belief that one should...) (1.) © Paschal Baute 1993
Condensed 'Characteristics of a Religious Addictive System.' Dr. Thomas Edgington is the principle author and contributed 90% of the following:
God is seen as impersonal and vindictive: members tend to have a grace- deficit theology. (Their religion and experience are based totally on fear, not on relief.)
Emphasis on theological correctness to the neglect of relationships and of loving others.
Demonstrates a spiritual arrogance [considers those from outside as less spiritual].
You will hear comments like I pride myself on my humility.
Majors on minor theological issues and ignores or minimizes major ones.
Scripture is said to be of primary importance, but in reality it is the leader's interpretation of Scripture that has primary importance.
Traditions often overrule Biblical truth.
Scripture is often misquoted, used out of context, or is degraded to the level of trite, pat answers in order to prove a point or to exact obedience to a system.
Intellectual development is limited to what fits the system; we think the way we do because we are right; the thoughts and opinions of others are not considered.
Dogmatism is common: the point under discussion is often explained by the quotation of a Bible verse, again, usually out of context.
Members attempt to impose their personal opinions upon outsiders or upon those still within the system but under suspicion.
There is a lack of objective accountability: leadership is accountable to itself ONLY. [Often explains why the religious fear and despise psychology... fear of exposure by outsider]
Leadership is viewed as infallible and beyond reproach.
Undue/over-emphasis upon submission to authority.
Expression of certain emotions, particularly anger, is seen as unspiritual.
Low self image, hyperactive conscience, undue guilt, and an inability to forgive, either others or oneself is very common.
Communication often centers around theological issues; personal issues are rarely discussed. When they are, two phenomena find expression: shredding people,setting up and knocking down straw men.
Interpersonal intimacy is often lacking.
Poor ability to relate to hurting people; offers pat answers instead of demonstrating loving care (2.)
Religious Addiction preys on the Weak and Vulnerable
After reading and processing the above characteristics of a religious addict, it is very to easy to find incidents of religious addictions since George W. Bush took power:
A while ago, I was watching the news stories about the Ten Commandments Monument being removed from a Government building in the United States. As I watched the protests, I thought how twisted right wing Christian zealots are; the way they whined and moaned lying on the ground reminded me of a religious addicted cult. There is so much hate and mental defects within the Christian Coalition. It is scary.
It is important for all countries to separate government from Organized Religion. Christian Right Wing Organized Religion is a very dangerous political institution. They have decided how people should live and those choosing a different way of life are viewed as deviant or enemies.
When looking at two men, George W. Bush and Mel Gibson, it is easy to see how dangerous Religious addiction can be to the rest of the population. Both these men are recovered drug addicts and drunks. What lead to their recovery was replacing their chemical addictions with Christian addiction. Like a cult, Christian Extremists target people when they are at their weakest; both men have weak minds which made them easy prey. They should not be respected, but looked at as very weak little creatures.
As President of the United States, the mentally feeble man, George W. Bush, has been given the power to flex his religious addicted muscles: supported challenging affirmative action, proposal to ban gay marriage, increase funding to religious groups that help alcoholics and drug addicts recover, invading and taking over Iraq, funding the promotion marriage (push women in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant, eh Georgie?)
The Christian Right seeks to oppress those who don't conform to their way of life. In order for society to evolve, Right Wing Religion must be kept out of positions of political power.
Religious addicted Mel Gibson is now a right wing fundamentalist. He believes he knows God personally, and has a whole lot of money, giving him the power to push his beliefs on the rest of us. There is nothing more dangerous than a rich right wing fundamentalist. About Mel Gibson's movie, The Passion of the Christ, Movie Reviewers and News Commentators did not have the courage to give Mel Gibson's movie a real review. It is probably like during the invasion of Iraq; people who spoke against it were intimidated, and the media was very biased toward the bullies.
Religious addiction is a serious mental illness in our society. Religious addicts, when given power, have the ability to do some serious damage to the world and its species.
Religious Addiction: a mental illness with deadly social consequences.
Endnotes:
1. Paschal Baute, Symptons of Religious Addiction http://www.lexpages.com/SGN/paschal/religious_addiction.html
2. Dr. Thomas Edgington, Characteristics of a Religious Addictive System. Nimbus.org http://www.nimbus.org/Academics/ReligiousAddiction.html
BIBLIOGRAPHY
Symptons of Religious Addiction by Paschal Baute
http://www.lexpages.com/SGN/paschal/religious_addiction.html
Retrieved April, 1st 2004
Characteristics of a Religious Addictive System. Nimbus.org
http://www.nimbus.org/Academics/ReligiousAddiction.html
Retrieved April, 1st 2004
Copyright 2004 © TrysDan Roberts
gourdpainter...
We just finished a study of Revelation at our church. In the part you were talking about, "one man rising to lead them" it also says he will be diverse from the rest. He will be well liked, and many people will come to believe he is a "messiah".
Read this site just for face value, and just tell me if it doesn't make you cringe, just a bit.
http://www.theprophecies.com/antichrist.html
I pray that we do get our hiney's raptured right out of here before everything really goes down.
Oh please, gourdpainter.
Are you insinuating that Christianity is the only religion that believes in basic human values? Do you really think that anyone who is not a Christian automatically condones raping, killing, stealing, lying, or anything like it? We all have rights in this country, even minorities!
So okay, put it under gourdpainter
I'll stand by what I say. LOL
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Gourdpainter!
This man and the running mate he has chosen (which I bet now he is regretting) scare me to death. I have never in my life witnessed so much lying, hypocrisy and lack of integrity that these two people have have shown. Anyone watching his face as he speaks would have to see the glaringly clear dishonesty of this man!
Gourdpainter, why do you believe that?
I am just wondering why you feel so sure that McCain is going to win...
I don't know, gourdpainter.............sm
why Wright is not being talked about in the political circles. My initial thought is the difference between him and Ayers or the others is that he calls himself a preacher/reverend. While I definitely agree with you as far as Wright's political statements from the pulpit, maybe it is that McCain and Palin have not jumped on him because they were made from a pulpit and they view that as "protected" in some way??? In other words, they as politicians are not supposed to bring God into politics, so maybe this is an off limits kind of subject.
I notice you keep stating that you don't want Palin as president. GP, she is not running for president; McCain is. And while the chance exists that he could die in office (not necessarily of evil intentions but rather due to age) and Palin could step into the presidency, I would rather have her there than Obama/Biden any day. I can assure you that Obama will be the final ruination of this country if he is elected.
I'm sorry you can't sleep at night. Maybe you need to rethink your vote and vote for McCain. I've noticed others on this board who have said they can sleep at night now knowing that they are voting for McCain. ;o)
Gourdpainter
Sorry I didn't answer! It was farrier day at my moms so I've been gone all afternoon.
I respect your opinion, and I understand where you are coming from. Honestly at this point all we can do is pray. There is just to much stuff I've seen of O that rubs me the wrong way. I just believe voting for Mccain is the lesser of two evils. Yes, it may be the same. But I'd rather endure 4 more years of the same and pray during those four years for a godly candidate to come about than to risk voting for someone who we really do not know about. That's just a big issue I have. We really still do not know who Obama is. We know who he is portrayed as, but there has not been enough time for us to know who he truly is and what he truly believes in.
This is my other big worry...if, God forbid, Obama gets assassinated, and Biden dies or whatever (his health isn't much better than Mccain's I'm pretty sure) then we have Pelosi. THAT is frightening. I would take Palin over Pelosi any day. And Biden could possibly misspeak his way right into a nuclear war. Of course I know your view on Palin so we won't go there... :)
Your right, Mccain is not a godly candidate. If the reason he left his wife is true, it's despicable. But you know what, he's apologized. And I'm sure he has asked forgiveness. We all do things we are not proud of. Obama lies until he is backed into a corner (such as Rev Wright) and then when he finally can't back up anymore he then says "oh I condemn what he said." Not good enough to me. I don't care what the man says, he did not sit in that church for almost 500 Sundays and never once hear Wright preach hate. Straight up, he lied. He has been saturated with this hate. Yes, I believe he will bring change. While we don't know if he is a terrorist, I firmly believe he is anti-American. I believe he wants to bring about a "New America". While we have things wrong with this country, we are still a great country when you get down to the nitty gritty and I don't think every facet of American life needs to be changed. I think that is what he believes. He has his head in the clouds. Just look at how he is now saying "ohh don't get too excited". Why did he promise all that at the beginning? To get the votes. To get people to decide on him, because you know the majority of people aren't going to change their minds now.
He's promising you more days off from school and more vending machines in the halls knowing he can't give them to you. He has people following him now like lemmings on a cliff.
Also, I feel like there are a lot of big red flags coming up from the Bible. I feel like we are going to be face to face with Jesus and he's going to say "I TRIED TO WARN YOU!"
I understand what you mean though, about God not telling you. Sometimes I wish he would just make me a neon sign :). Just make sure you sit still and listen, because if you're like me sometimes he may be shouting at you and you just can't hear him.
I encourage you to definitely take some time to yourself and just sit and talk with Him, and see what he puts on your heart.
I understand the appeal of Obama, I really do. As a 22-year-old college student, I feel like one of a few of my age group that isn't voting for him. I really liked him at first, but the more and more I read about his association with Wright, his view of the "typical white woman", his view on abortion, etc., I just feel like he is not the man who is going to lead our country back to God, and ultimately, that is what we need. Like I said, Mccain probably won't either, but I fear with Obama there may not be a chance to elect another Christian president. I fear that he will go as far as to quiet our preachers and to limit what we can say as Christians. If he doesn't personally, the democratic congress will, and I don't believe he will say no to them. That's one thing I like about Mccain, you know he will say no if need be. I just think Obama owes to many people. He didn't make it up the ladder this quick without a lot of help.
Well, it's back to work for me. Take it easy!
I think gourdpainter has.
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i, gourdpainter...
I asked this question already a while back and nobody answered it.
So I guess, it must have something do to with the 'uterus', perhaps?
LOL !
Another invention of the Republicans to proof that they are right?
Thank you, gourdpainter.
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Oh, gourdpainter....sm
I know for a fact, that you yourself usually possess what my grandpa used to call, "good ol' fashioned horse sense."
It just amazes me that you don't recognize it in someone else.
Your mind is already made up, so I don't think I can explain it to you.
Gourdpainter...........sm
And all the other nay-sayers.
About the post below concerning the audio interview with Obama on the energy issue, did you even listen to the audio that was presented?
Not only did I listen to it, I went to the source web site and listened. Here is the link if you want to check it out further. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=32228
The entire interview was about 48 minutes long. It was Obama answering questions from several journalists on a number of issues. He was first questioned about energy at about 25:15 in the tape. The issue that was brought up in the post below that you called 'Horsefeathers' was discussed at about 40:30. I encourage you go listen for yourself and hear the words from the horse's mouth.
Other issues discussed along with the time markers for each discussion were:
Health care 10:38
Securities Industry 20:00
Iraq 29:18
Environment 39:55
Racial issues 42:24 (And this was a listener/reader question)
Voting system in the caucuses (sp): 46:09
Obama is, without doubt, a very intelligent man and eloquent speaker, but I fear he may be far too intelligent, possibly to the point that he cannot be reigned in if necessary, and that in combination with a Democratic House, Senate and Judiciary branch makes him a very dangerous man.
Wow Gourdpainter
you really opened the floodgates - LOL!
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