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PLEASE. I did not say *a lot*. Stop putting words in my mouth! nm

Posted By: sm on 2006-03-15
In Reply to: I don't remember there being *a lot* of dems for Clinton's impeachment...sm - Democrat




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I answered you, sam. You are putting words in Obama's mouth
show me where O said he would give rebates to people w/o income and show me where he said they would get a tax break. This question has been answered already. Read the previous post BEFORE you throw out another dodge to my still unanswered question about progressive tax system being socialist, the rebate and your outlandish claims about what you think Obama said.
Yup, Biden has a hard time speaking without putting a foot in his mouth.
He's like that crazy family member everyone has that they always try to keep under wraps.
You're putting words in her post.sm
Take it at face value.
I did not put words in your mouth....
if you are pro choice, and if you had to vote on the issue you would vote for it I assume...that means you support abortion. That is the plain and simple fact. There is no law now which states when an abortion has to occur. They can do it any time they get good and ready, beyond three months.

My dear kam, my "religion" does not tell me that a baby has a soul before it is born, my sense of morality and my heart tell me that. And just because you say a baby does not have a soul before it is born, that also does not make it so. If I am going to err, I most certainly would want to err on the side of the child. But that is just me.

Yes, I want state to state decisions to be made. That is what democracy is about. You hawk about choice, choice, choice. Every American should have the right to vote on this question. You want to allow a woman a choice to kill her baby, you don't want to allow me a choice to vote on the matter. Talk about hypocritical. Sheesh.

As you have stated ad nauseam, if a woman wants an abortion, she is going to get one, and I don't think having to travel to another state is going to stop her. Might be a little inconvenient, but I am sure those as liberal pro-choicers could set up buses, etc., to haul those women who want to have their babies killed to wherever they are killing babies.

You say you are not pro abortion...that must mean on some level personally you think it is wrong. That comes from your personal sense of morality, and since you are obviously not a "religious" person it does not come from God (although I do not believe that, but that is neither here nor there and not a discussion for this board). There are many people who are pro life who are not, as you say, "religious." They just believe that killing babies is wrong. The National Right to Life Committee is comprised of many non-"religious" people as well as "religious people." Believe it or not, there are people out there who just believe killing babies is wrong.

As to the SCHIP thing...that has nothing to do with the moral right or wrong of abortion. Why are you so concerned about health care of those children, and not concerned about the millions aborted every year? 98% of which have nothing to do with the health of the mother, rape, or incest? Why not limit abortion to rape, incest, or life of mother in danger? Why use it as a form of birth control? Because that is what 98% of abortions are. And if that is okay with you, so be it. I have a right to be against it, just as you have a right to be for it.

And, by the way, I also have a right to my "religion." Guaranteed by the Constitution of these United States of America. Just like life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...there is no proviso "unless you are an inconvenient fetus, then all bets are off."

Have a nice day.
Not what i said at all...please do not put words in my mouth...
I have to say that now that Obama has said to pull out all the troops immediately would not be the thing to do, I feel slightly better about him in that respect. However, to say he would sit down with Admadinejad without any constraints...that worries me. And also what worries me is that in a nuclear proliferation talk when talking about getting rid of your weapons and Ahmadinejad..or Medvedev says basically "you first," he might actually do it.

Third...nuclear nonproliferation will only work if all sides agree. Russia will never give up its nukes. Ahmadinejad will never give up his nukes, certainly of his own free will he won't. Israel cannot give up their nukes..to do so would be suicide. If we give ours up...suicide. And I don't think Obama gets that. Sorry, I just don't. Not a slam..my opinion. And I have to vote on what I think and feel based on all I know...not what any party tells me I should do.
Words from his mouth were

in the context of coal being the dirtiest kind of energy and how all energy providers will need to obey guidelines regarding clean air and greenhouse gases, including coal providers.


His "words" were as follow:


"This notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion.  We have to figure out how to use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon, how can we sequester that carbon and capture it.  If we can't, we will still be working on alternatives."


He said that if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it, that he thinks that is the right approach.


However, if the coal industry wants to continue as is without any changes, they can still build a plant, but it will bankrupt them to do so if they cannot or will not meet the standards that comply with clean air and greenhouse gases.


Clean air, what an evil plan!


But go ahead, spin it, flip it, and toss it around until it's upside down and carries the complete opposite meaning of the original true statement. 


Once again, I refer you to the link I posted previously, where the United Mine Workers of America endorse Obama's plan and reveal how McCain twisted it.


If the United Mine Workers of America are okay with his plan, then so am I.


Was referring to words out of her own mouth
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Okay, so words from his mouth aren't true?

 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMwBbl6RoIs&NR=1


Nice mouth. You kiss your mother with that mouth? sm
No, and please try and comprehend what I am saying, gt broke the truce when she attacked me.  Can you comprehend that?  I was staying off your board until I saw that gt actually attacked me in a thread that ended up in a truce with another poster.  You are really really not a nice person.  I will pray for you.
Those types of words are unnecessary and actually ARE racist words. sm
Those types of phrases are offensive and are intended to be offensive. This election should not be about race. If it is about race for you, then you are probably one of the ignorant people using those words. Very rude!!
I will not stop trying to stop the slaughter of the unborn in this country...
I never said you were a stupid wretch. What I said was, if you can watch that video below and not feel something, your heart must be seared over. If you can watch that video and advocate what you advocate, yes, I'm sorry, I find that cold. I am entitled to my opinion and all your ranting and name calling and belitting is not going to change that. Someone needs to speak for the child. You certainly aren't allowing it any rights, including the right to live. You are okay with that, I'm not.
You're right....words are just words...so are Obama's...
...and don't/won't mean anything to many people, myself included.

He is no MLK.

It is a historic moment, of that I have no doubt. And yes, he has come far.

However, one still needs to have strength of character to back the words up for true meaning, and he is sadly lacking in that area.


Not as much as putting out an ad from your campaign...
with stamp of approval on it. That says more, in my opinion.

As far as Jewish people...Sarah Palin is going to the protest but on by Jewish leaders protesting Ahmadinejad addressing the UN...so McCain's campaign is supporting Jewish people there in a very public way. That also says a lot.
that's putting it lightly

Putting lipstick on a pig is like saying there's more than a hair's difference between a socialist and a communist.  At least a few of us around here get it.  Why they refuse to believe that the company one keeps is relevant is beyond me.  If I showed up to dinner with Charles Manson or similar, gee, what would that say about me? 


The Dems are so used to having govt make decisions for them from cradle to grave.  No thanks, BHO, I'm a big girl and can make my own decisions.  Frankly, I can't afford those decisions of his, nor can any of the rest of the country.


Have you noticed that this place mirrors the far-left loons like HuffPo, Kos, & moveon?  I'm not talking generic Dems.  I'm talking Michael Moore, Babs Streisand, etc.  Unbelievable! 


 


if he was putting country first, he would have
pick a more qualified VP candidate. That pick was to help him with the base. In the whole country, he believed she was the MOST qualified? Lieberman was his personal choice. But Lieberman certainly would not have gotten him the Christian vote.
Why are u putting blame elsewhere.
I hate to say it, but could be because he is black or arab african.
Well gee - excuuuuuze US, for not putting it
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how about for putting this country in sm
the worst economic mess it has ever seen and doing it in a matter of less than 5 months? That would be a great start!

But then I guess folks with your mentality can't see the obvious.
You are putting that out of context, Democrat. SM

In fact, the conversation was very polite and respectful at all times. Wow, how two people can remember things so differently.  Says a lot.


Great post!! Thanks for putting this up. nm
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I don't call that putting down her country....she
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Perhaps when putting yourself out as an immigration law expert,
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Scary is putting it mildly.

My 16-year-old is NO WAY going to a barrack to learn civil defense or civil service.  I do not mind community service, she does that now, but no way in heck is she going to a barrack for 3-4 months. 


I did not ask for this stupid crazy change.  I want my ole United States back.  It was not perfect, but this has gone too far.  Rahm is nothing but scum between my toes and to think of a creation of his Marxist youth corps is %^&&*(*. 


The next you know, we are all going to have to get "THE MARK" SOON ON YOUR FOREHEAD OR HAND AREA which we all know is the 666.  LOOK OUT COUNTRY HERE IT COMES, YOUR NEW CHANGE.  Yes I can, yes I can, yes I can.  What for?  CHANGE.  What kind of change?  Heck if we know.


Will never last. Obama is putting us in debt we may
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This administration is putting USA security in
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You are putting apples with oranges.,
this has nothing to do with that.
It is all OUR business because we are putting our country's welfare in this...sm
governor/mother/grandmother's hands.

She will eventually have to face those questions of how she can perform such an important job and tend to the needs of her daughter, her daughter's baby and her own baby.
Putting her political ambitions above Bistol
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McCain sounds like he is putting his country first...sm
And Obama probably wishes he would have thought of it first.


I just saw Obama on TV just now, and he sounds rather childish about the whole thing, making accusations. Poor Obama.


He lost out on this one, and now he just plain looks bad. Not very presidential at all, I'm afraid.









It is called putting aside partisan politics for the
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Getting serious means putting blame where it belongs.
Bush Sr., Clinton and Bush Jr. All of them had a hand in bringing this country to its knees.

Of course its going to take a long time to get our country out of this mess. This is not instantaneous, and the messes go way back to before Bush Jr. even got in the office. So with that said, it is time to stop blaming past presidents and start looking to the future. Yeah, it would be nice if magic could be spun. But it can't. Going back to Obama's campaign slogan "hope". We have to hope he can pull us out or at least get us started back on the right track. Truth is, he's not off to a good start.

So, time to put down to kool-aid and get a cup of coffee and come back to reality here with the rest of us.
Oh, sure, baby steps.. like putting us trillions
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They're always putting out this sort of thing, actually.
...just round-file it.
Nothing but words hon, and we know how Obama's words
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Police putting names of activists on terrorist lists. sm
Dissent is patriotic. I wonder how many people are on these lists. It's creepy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/07/AR2008100703245_pf.html
Putting together job programs in order to get people back to work....sm
able to perhaps save their homes and families, able to pay taxes, which will in turn pay for social programs, support the infrastructure, and then when folk are back to work they will feel secure in perhaps purchasing again, which will help businesses....FDR did it, it takes time, it is not a quick fix, it won't make Obama into Merlin, it took 8 LONG YEARS to get into this bottomless pit, can we give this administration at least a year or two to try to get things moving upward again? I may not support every social program included therein, but work is being done, adn will continue. I used to cross the desert on occasion when I lived in CA, and I am starting to see vultures on the side of the road again circling and not even waiting to pounce and pull apart the government. Why? Just my opion.
Also, because we are white middle class and have a house, we are putting kids through college, ever
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What I do not like is what comes out of her mouth; otherwise she is
is quite pretty to look. Frankly, though, I have never liked real aggressive women like that - had too many in my life cause me too much grief and misery. They shoot their mouths off and then rely on their male partners to take care of the dirty work that needs to be done.

I especially have a negative feeling toward people in general who use their religion to gain power and money.
@$$ 2 mouth is not OK
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Tell me - do you eat with that mouth? nm
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And has the mouth to match....sm

Shut your mouth......Or Else
http://www.newsweek.com/id/158107
You can tell as soon as she opens her mouth

I can already see through McCain's tricks.  He will play the "too harsh on the little lady" game when it comes to anything to do with Palin.  I say he disrespects women because of he didn't care enough to pick a qualified candidate, just selected one he throught may rouse the dems.  If he really had respect for women, he would have picked a much, much better woman than Sarah Palin, one who has much more experience and one who "takes care of things at home first." 


Obama is articulate; McCain is the same; are you not seeing that? 


All he has do to is open his mouth....
and stick his size 13 in it. But I don't see you criticizing him. Franklin Roosevelt on TV after crash in 29...only it was Hoover and no TV at that time. Oh I think that ad is terrible. But it's your ad. We did that? Yes, you did that. Well, then we should take it down. Read my lips, NO CLEAN COAL. Obama is FOR clean coal technology.

Still waiting for your critique of Biden.
Nah, we have to hold our mouth in a
different position in that case. Must have been something else.
Out of Richardson's mouth too (nm)
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You must also believe every word out of his mouth, too...nm

Potty mouth? LOL.....

bit mouth frog?
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Right from the mouth of an Obot.
Helloooo...try John McCain (sorry, if you don't even know his name I think you need to do a bit of reading up on him). The candidates where McCain and Palin, Obama and Biden. Show a little respect for all of them. You know the same respect you demand for OLiar, oops I mean Obama. What associations? Please site some sources. Delusion is for the Obots who spin in circles drinking the Kool-Aid not even knowing what issues he supports or is against.
Amazing, a large, successful company with a heart and soul, putting America first?? Congrats to Int
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