Putting together job programs in order to get people back to work....sm
Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-01-28
In Reply to: Groan: What can I say? It's disgusting - Backwards typist
able to perhaps save their homes and families, able to pay taxes, which will in turn pay for social programs, support the infrastructure, and then when folk are back to work they will feel secure in perhaps purchasing again, which will help businesses....FDR did it, it takes time, it is not a quick fix, it won't make Obama into Merlin, it took 8 LONG YEARS to get into this bottomless pit, can we give this administration at least a year or two to try to get things moving upward again? I may not support every social program included therein, but work is being done, adn will continue. I used to cross the desert on occasion when I lived in CA, and I am starting to see vultures on the side of the road again circling and not even waiting to pounce and pull apart the government. Why? Just my opion.
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In our area, all the "Handicapable" work programs are
subsidized through the state or private donors. The state is broke. They have already announced this is one of the areas of the budget that will be eliminated, along with the subsidized housing programs that provide the same people with independent or assisted living residences. The private corporate donors in our area are announcing layoffs by the thousands and have cut way back on community donations.
We won. We're back to work now....(NM)
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Other addicted Americans aren't putting people in jail or ripping apart families for drug crimes.
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Will post back later tonight after work. nm
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Roberts did some pro bono work for gay rights back in 1992. Good for him.
I think its the one glimmer of hope the fact that he at least had the decency to stand up for gays rights to lease an apartment and other civil liberties.
What I continue to find ironic is how the conservatives could see this as a possible negative "ideology" for their party.
We have to work to get rid of people like NP.
She hates anybody and everybody, especially pubs. She's trying to take over. Right now, it's a big struggle betwen a couple of dems and I don't know why people can't see this. She's only part of the government but for some reason, everybody cow-tows (?) to her. Why? What is she holding over them? Who made her God? Why does she think her word is the gospel truth? Why, since before the election, is she so outspoken?
I can't stand the woman and the more she tries to take over, the more I hate her. Sorry dems, but I think she is full of hate and I think she is going to try to take down O and anyone who doesn't follow her. This is just my opinion. If not trying to take down O, then she is pushing for something else. I can't put my finger on it, but she's not on the up and up.
I think maybe there is something in her background that she thinks it will be found out unless she keeps up this tirade (sp). Hoepfully, it will be found before she totally wrecks this country.
It was never meant to work with people like you. (nm)
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I'm saying that a lot of people are not paying taxes now that work -
they owe taxes, but the EIC is enough to wipe out that amount they owe already. It would be the same with the credit he is proposing. He is not saying that only certain people are getting that credit. It is just going to be enough to wipe out what some people owe. Say a person owed $800 and he gave her $1000 - she would get $200 back. But say a person owed $1800 and he gave her $1000, she would then owe only $800.
That's why I say you are just trying to argue - you know what it means... it will do the same thing it does now, only it will cover a larger number of people than it does now.
Taking revenge, killing other people, does this bring your friend back to life?..nm
There has to be another way!
He also said that some of programs...
need to be stripped and he is well aware of that. Don't forget, he didn't write this all by his lonesome - it was written in the House. He does not want it ditched altogether for fear of the consequences of starting from scratch - WE DON'T HAVE TIME. BUT, the pubs could give a rats about those of us in limbo - they'd rather engage in partisan infighting. If the morons would quit fighting - get to work and strip the garbage - present us with a job creation only bill - we'd be in business. But, cooperation is impossible - as evidenced by the hate posted all over this board.
cut what federal programs??
So the Federal govt is gonna cut back in entitlement programs to fund the rebuilding of NO? Not gonna cease his tax cuts for the rich, just gonna cut back on programs for.....the disadvantaged, of course, the ones whose voices will not be heard..Whose fault was NO? Bush and his administration. I say Bush should donate some of his millions to the rebuilding of NO, let some of the unfortunate ones camp on his 1700 acres that he boasts about..He got us into this awful mess. His speech the other night was a joke..Just another press moment, trying to pull on Americans heart strings but it aint working, LOL..**Long live equality**..Three more years? Oh gee, can we survive? What will be the next catastrophe under this fool? 9/11, Iraq and now NO..**America where are you**?
The programs in the stimulus...nm
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The History Channel programs are
often very factual. I watch it a lot.
I would love to see the John Adams program but I gave up HBO. They didn't seem to have very good programming for a long time, movie-wise, and a lot of the series were on too late for me, so I gave HBO up (after 15 years).
govt job programs/CETA
My first real job some 30 years ago was a CETA job. That was Comprehensive Employment and Training Act. This was doing medical transcription for a county health department. I worked as a CETA employee for a year, they trained me and paid me, and I have worked in transcription for 30 years, of course moving on to hospital stuff. Made big bucks for quite a few years and now here I am, strangely enough, I think back to the same money I made all those years ago. You've got to keep your sense of humor.
Ronnie Reagan, the man who cut all the programs for mentally ill and sm
that is when you started seeing all the homeless people on the streets. During his reign of terror. A horrible president.
we already have schools and programs to feed our hungry
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Yea but he didn't have to pre-empt my favorite programs
Judge Joe and Judge Alex. They were gonna be pretty good today. Guess I'll have to wait for re-runs. LOL
This is not social programs......this is HUGE government
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Why shouldnt gov fund religious programs?
I should be able to get some funding just like everyone else if I have a religious program. I mean we fund abortion here in the US and abroad. We fund wars, we fund all kinds of CRAP so why NOT religion? Isnt it supposed to be equal and fair? Why is it the religious people of this world, namely the Christians get the short end of the stick?
Here's some info on the 'shovel ready' programs.
Read this morning in our paper that the majority of the stimulus money coming to our great state of Ohio is going to go not to construction projects (like it was supposed to, hence the term 'shovel ready'), but to study construction projects.
I get that maybe we just shouldn't throw money to whatever pothole comes first and that there has to be some sort of order, but the reasoning behind this 'study' given by Gov. Strickland was that it was totally within the parameters of the stimulus and "we're putting engineers and planners to work."
I'm sure that will be greatly appreciated by those construction workers three years from now - after they've lost their homes, cars, equipment, business, etc.
I wish I could explain it, but I just don't get it either.
God d*mn America is ok then? As long as you have good church programs? (nm)
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Correct....or the 3.5 trillion dollar social programs
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Tax cuts, progressive tax system, social programs
are as American as apple pie and these same policies and initiatives can be found puncuating the pages of our history from the day of our country's inception.
You do not understand Marxism or socialism, or you would be a lot more exercised by the current redistribution of wealth that takes your tax dollars and moves them upward to an elite ruling class that represses and undermines the middle class at the drop of a hat. State ownership of banks, lending institutions and direct personal property "buy outs" (as proposed by McCain certainly smack of Marxism and are not exactly what you could call traditional American values.
employer based-programs subsidize insurance...
not just make it available--and therein lies my problem.
And govt shouldn't fund religious programs....
schools, facilities, etc.
Programs the conservatives make a life long mission
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Not as much as putting out an ad from your campaign...
with stamp of approval on it. That says more, in my opinion.
As far as Jewish people...Sarah Palin is going to the protest but on by Jewish leaders protesting Ahmadinejad addressing the UN...so McCain's campaign is supporting Jewish people there in a very public way. That also says a lot.
that's putting it lightly
Putting lipstick on a pig is like saying there's more than a hair's difference between a socialist and a communist. At least a few of us around here get it. Why they refuse to believe that the company one keeps is relevant is beyond me. If I showed up to dinner with Charles Manson or similar, gee, what would that say about me?
The Dems are so used to having govt make decisions for them from cradle to grave. No thanks, BHO, I'm a big girl and can make my own decisions. Frankly, I can't afford those decisions of his, nor can any of the rest of the country.
Have you noticed that this place mirrors the far-left loons like HuffPo, Kos, & moveon? I'm not talking generic Dems. I'm talking Michael Moore, Babs Streisand, etc. Unbelievable!
if he was putting country first, he would have
pick a more qualified VP candidate. That pick was to help him with the base. In the whole country, he believed she was the MOST qualified? Lieberman was his personal choice. But Lieberman certainly would not have gotten him the Christian vote.
Why are u putting blame elsewhere.
I hate to say it, but could be because he is black or arab african.
Well gee - excuuuuuze US, for not putting it
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how about for putting this country in sm
the worst economic mess it has ever seen and doing it in a matter of less than 5 months? That would be a great start!
But then I guess folks with your mentality can't see the obvious.
You are putting that out of context, Democrat. SM
In fact, the conversation was very polite and respectful at all times. Wow, how two people can remember things so differently. Says a lot.
Great post!! Thanks for putting this up. nm
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I don't call that putting down her country....she
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Perhaps when putting yourself out as an immigration law expert,
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Scary is putting it mildly.
My 16-year-old is NO WAY going to a barrack to learn civil defense or civil service. I do not mind community service, she does that now, but no way in heck is she going to a barrack for 3-4 months.
I did not ask for this stupid crazy change. I want my ole United States back. It was not perfect, but this has gone too far. Rahm is nothing but scum between my toes and to think of a creation of his Marxist youth corps is %^&&*(*.
The next you know, we are all going to have to get "THE MARK" SOON ON YOUR FOREHEAD OR HAND AREA which we all know is the 666. LOOK OUT COUNTRY HERE IT COMES, YOUR NEW CHANGE. Yes I can, yes I can, yes I can. What for? CHANGE. What kind of change? Heck if we know.
Will never last. Obama is putting us in debt we may
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This administration is putting USA security in
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You are putting apples with oranges.,
this has nothing to do with that.
You're putting words in her post.sm
Take it at face value.
PLEASE. I did not say *a lot*. Stop putting words in my mouth! nm
It is all OUR business because we are putting our country's welfare in this...sm
governor/mother/grandmother's hands.
She will eventually have to face those questions of how she can perform such an important job and tend to the needs of her daughter, her daughter's baby and her own baby.
Putting her political ambitions above Bistol
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McCain sounds like he is putting his country first...sm
And Obama probably wishes he would have thought of it first.
I just saw Obama on TV just now, and he sounds rather childish about the whole thing, making accusations. Poor Obama.
He lost out on this one, and now he just plain looks bad. Not very presidential at all, I'm afraid.
It is called putting aside partisan politics for the
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Getting serious means putting blame where it belongs.
Bush Sr., Clinton and Bush Jr. All of them had a hand in bringing this country to its knees.
Of course its going to take a long time to get our country out of this mess. This is not instantaneous, and the messes go way back to before Bush Jr. even got in the office. So with that said, it is time to stop blaming past presidents and start looking to the future. Yeah, it would be nice if magic could be spun. But it can't. Going back to Obama's campaign slogan "hope". We have to hope he can pull us out or at least get us started back on the right track. Truth is, he's not off to a good start.
So, time to put down to kool-aid and get a cup of coffee and come back to reality here with the rest of us.
Oh, sure, baby steps.. like putting us trillions
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They're always putting out this sort of thing, actually.
...just round-file it.
In no particular order.
*Jobs. I want to know what they are going to do about all the jobs going overseas and the companies the send them, etc.
*Healthcare. This is huge to me.
*National security. To me this also includes a cleanup of our image abroad. I would like to possibly go to a different country at some point and I would love to not have everyone hate me as soon as I open my mouth. People can say all they want about "I don't care what people think of us." But, you should - it is a matter of security. Also, I believe it would be more beneficial to have more friends in case the time came that we needed it.
*Immigration/illegal immigrants.
*It is important to me to keep Roe v. Wade. Not because I support abortion so, because I don't but I hate to think of what would happen if it was not legal. I do not necessarily support funding for it though.
These are a few important ones to me right now.
You must be doing the same in order to
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