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They're always putting out this sort of thing, actually.

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This sort of thing is not subject to Presidential trickery of that sort. nm
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You're putting words in her post.sm
Take it at face value.

You're right about one thing

People had better smarten up but I doubt that's likely to happen.

So we don't have socialism now. What exactly do we have? Our government (Democrats AND Republicans) support more illegal immigration and rewarding the criminal illegals with citizenship, never mind what the people want. Didn't they both support the huge bail-out? BOTH parties. How many of the people supported that? What good is it going to do? None. Now aren't they saying that we'll have to wait and see if it works and more bail-outs may be necessary.

So will someone tell me just exactly what kind of government it is we have now? The Republicans had rule for the past few years. Very recently both dubya and McCain...didn't they say the "economy was fundamentally sound?" LIES??? Youbetcha.

How any sheep can follow either of these parties to the slaughter is far beyond me. And sheep is what most Americans are. I'm tempted to say that those who enthusiastically support EITHER candidate deserve what they get. The problem is, I, myself, don't particularly want to go along for the ride.

You're right about one thing...(sm)
there will be 2 parties, but the current religious right wingnuts won't be one of them. There were only 3 moderate pubs left in the senate. With Specter moving to the dem side, there are only 2, and they vote more like independents. What does that leave the GOP with? The religious rightwing nutjobs...and yes, they (you) are losing ground on a daily basis.

Well, you're right about one thing....(sm)

He doesn't call himself a republican. He calls himself a "conservative traditionalist." What does that mean?

Definition:

Traditionalist conservatism, also known as "traditionalism," is a political philosophy that developed in the United States. It tends to emphasize cultural renewal and is characterized by an adherence to the principles of prescription (law), custom (law), social order, hierarchy, faith, the natural family, ordered liberty, and tradition. It may be said to have affinities with reactionary thought, and some adherents of this movement perhaps embrace that label, defying the stigma that has attached to it in Western culture since the Enlightenment.

Traditionalist conservatism emerged after World War II in the writings of a group of university professors (labeled the "New Conservatives" by the popular press of the time) who rejected the notions of individualism, liberalism, modernity, and social progress^[1] and revived interest in what T. S. Eliot referred to as "the permanent things" (those perennial institutions that ground society: the church, the family, the state, community life, etc.).

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In other words, far right republican. And no, he doesn't defend "anybody." He is notorious for promoting the far right's agenda and has been for years. Believe me, he's not laying off of Sotomayor because he doesn't want to discriminate. He's laying off of her because he knows it will hurt his party.

You're right - the whole SP thing is the 'pubicans
tactics for distracting the public so that they won't notice that by voting for Sarah (and oh, yes.... JM goes along with the package as a 'token' presidential figure), they'll be voting themselves another 4 years of economic misery, and world instability. If that happens, then the US deserves whatever nastiness is waiting around the next corner.

For one thing, that you're not informed

of the truth (which I posted below) and are spreading the "mandatory" myth, which inflames and upsets people.

Obama's programs are inclusive and designed for those who choose to participate for the good of the country, to bring us closer together. If you want no part of that, then, that's your choice, and though I personally think it's sad, it's probably for the best. Either way, it's your CHOICE and is NOT MANDATORY.

The thing is you're not giving him
I agree, we were brutally raped by the last adminstration and I am also wary, but for crying out loud, you are making these statements after less than a week in office. You can't justify that by saying you're "keeping an eye" on the government? If that statement is true, then you have to give the man a REASONABLE amount of time to implement his agenda. The engine hasn't even cooled down on the moving trucks yet. Don't be unrealistic, you lose credibility that way.

You're right about one thing, Patty.
Your mental disease is downright UGLY!!

Yes, you're right. It's the kindest thing to do.
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You're stuck on pub thing aren't you.... not
prefer to think for myself unlike you who obviously needs someone to do it for ya. I don't care for government, let alone more of it.

"we" did the right thing....no, you're wrong there.....a lot of
people, mostly young, were bamboozled.

"We" did not do the righ thing...

Unless you like total government control, and social medicine, and social economics.....etc......

We may never recover from President Obama and his "change", at least not in my lifetime.

I did not vote for him. I wish him well, but his choices as he is leading up to his inauguration do not bode well for our country on a whole, especially our children and grandchildren, who will be left to foot the bill, and have less rights than we do now.

Libs refuse to call it socialism.

But that's what we're putting into office.

Bush opened the door a crack.

Obama intends to play on our fears and take full advantage of them.

The barn door is wide open, and the winner take all (Obama). "Never let a good crisis go to waste" as his team has recently stated.

He has, and will, take full advantage of our fears, as even he, Obama, was the fear monger today.

Maybe when all your rights are gone, when govt has total control over your healthcare, your mortgage, your loans, your 401K, (and other things I can't even imagine as of yet unveiled b....maybe then, you will understand what is happening right under your nose, and finally see what you have lost.

ROFL! I guess the same thing you're doing.

Have you noticed that your neck hurts from shaking your head a lot???

I think you are saying the same thing. No need to argue when you're making the same point...nm
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sort of
If an abortion is survived and the child "takes breath," then yes, I believe G-d has given a soul to that child.

As for Obama's vote in that matter, there is a lot more too it than you are posting. I have researched the bill, the votes, etc. I certainly don't believe he was condoning murder with this bill.

I sort of agree with you, but I think.....sm
that we won't necessarily be a third-world country, but rather a non-existant country. He is always talking so much the Europeans and how we should be so much more like them, and like you said, it seems he wants to be the president of the UN... I wouldn't doubt his trip over there had something to do with putting the wheels in motion for the US to join the European Union. JMHO of course.

I don't disagree with a lot of what he says as far as helping others, etc., but I can't afford to pay more taxes! We are in that middle ground where we're not poor enough to pay no taxes or get any of the freebies, yet make just enough to pay so many taxes we can't afford to do anything other than pay our bills with what's left.

I'd love to help the homeless, the infirm, the disabled, but I simply can't afford to do much more than volunteer a little time now and then and put a few coins in a fundraising can, but if Mr. Obama gets his way, I'll have to take away from mine to give to them anyway.

I'm so sick and tired of seeing friends and acquaintances who have little or no job, get food stamps and free babysitters for ''respite'' time for themselves, get free medical and dental care and TAKE HUGE VACATIONS that I could scream!! I work full time plus and my husband is self-employed working 24/7 too and we can't afford to take a vacation. We can't afford to get sick or need medication. I need new glasses badly right now, but I simply can't afford it. There are people in our area who are on all the programs and go and get into fights in bars and get their glasses broken and go to the eye doctor the next day and just get new ones. I just don't think it's fair.

But I also think that that is the plan... get us all to start believing that our lives will be easier if we let the government take care of us (and it would be!), but once we're all on the dole, watch out... because then that's when the free things will stop and you'll be sorry.

I'm not saying I favor one candidate over an other right now, I'm still waiting for the debates. I'm not anxious to hear what they can ''do for me'' but rather what they are going to do to help me help myself. I've run out of ways to make my money go any further. We don't live fancy, never have. We don't go out but maybe once or twice a year to dinner, never to a movie or club. Our home is old and plain and almost paid for and we have no other debt. We have worked very hard over the last 28 years to get to where we are today and I feel like the rug is being pulled out from under us. I just want to vote for whoever is not going to take away what I have worked so hard for.

my point exactly - well sort of
Why HC & JM dropped it? - I have no idea. We do know that BO and HC had private meetings, so who knows what went on there. I'm sure she was told to drop it (by the people funding BO) and offered a high ranking position, but we will never really know. JM - probably dropped it because if he pushed it they would have found that he too was not of legal standing to run for the position. But he was so weak and in no way had any of the funding that BO did and therefore was totally destroyed by BO. The party should have been smarter and picked somebody better, but then again GW's presidency (even though decisions are controlled by congress and the COB and the President is only a talking head) was such a failure I don't think any decent republican even had a chance at winning.

The media dropped it plain and simple. The MM is an organized propaganda tool. (Do you wonder why they don't report on 80% of the top stories going on). Maybe once or twice over the holiday weekend did they report on the situation in India. Even then it was given only a few moments. Then they had to go back to reporting about the Hollywood crowd and prisons in America, etc. Also, this is a very hot topic, and people who have been trying to get to the bottom of the issue have been met with death threats and have had to change their name. One guy even found a dead rabbit hanging on his porch and his auto destroyed with a warning to stop his investigation. Therefore, with all the violent tempers, this is one story no media is going to touch. That's why we have to hear (read) about it on the internet.

As for people posting articles. As with any of these sites here if people think an article is worthwhile to post they should be able to post. If it's just someone ranting on an on and giving nonsense opinions that's one thing, but these articles are written by journalist, lawyers, and people who have been following issues closely. When people post articles about food shortages, or Canada going crazy in their elections, or mad cow disease or any of other numerous articles not related to BO, they are never met with the same response of "your article is not credible". It is only when an article is posted of what's happening with Barky that people will say its not credible and then cite a pro-Obama site.

Posting an article we want to has nothing to do with proving we are MTs or not being allowed to post to this forum. It is an article we find of interest. If some don't like it, then read it and as they say "move on", but to come back and say that the articles are not credible sources but theirs are, well that's were it just gets too silly.

This is the sort of person
who should be put in front of "our boys" should there ever be an attach on our soil!

Right. It's sort of hidden, but we will ALL
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Why, to facilitate and sort of

ORGANIZE the whole volunteer process, you know? I'm sure there'll be lots of green stuff to learn, like how to rat out your dumb, stubborn parents for using the wrong kind of light bulbs. How to spot non-organic produce. We'll love it. It'll be great. You'll see! Soon we'll wonder how we ever got along without it.

And in the words of Ronald Reagan (yeah, another dead guy...everybody get over it, OK?) 'A government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever know on this earth.'

Wow...that is sort of confusing.
I guess if I were gay and had a partner, I'd just swap rings on my own and throw a party. The love two people have between each other means more than a legal piece of paper, IMO. I wouldn't travel to another state to get married just to go back home and it not mean anything legally. As often as people get divorced, you gotta wonder if straight people really get marriage.

A poll of a sort........... sm

What, in your opinion, originally defined right behavior from wrong behavior?

This not only applies to the discussion below but also any wrong behavior such as stealing, murder, rape, or any one of the other blights on the face of mankind. Please explain your answer citing whatever source of information supports your argument.

So you have to be some sort of HUMANITARIAN to be nominated.

That explains Bush's exclusion on that list. How embarrassed and ashamed should America be to see the leader of another, presumably poorer country try to provide humanitarian aid to Americans because our own president believes humanitarian aid begins with oil companies and ends with those intent on eliminating American freedom?

I wonder if he views our president as an oppressor and if he plans to invade and occupy our country to save us from Bush and to spread his superior form of government to the United States.

Sorry. I was just being silly. No credible leader in the world would ever do anything like THAT.....WOULD HE????

Sort of like Confederacy currency?

The economic summit was held behind closed doors. The politicians on both sides are probably gleefully aware that the American people are so busy blaming Democrats/Republicans they can't take time to see what is really going on. BOTH parties are to blame. I expect Bush made a deal behind closed doors and he'll pass it off to Obama who will continue. My opinion is we are no longer a free nation, we just haven't been informed of the new rules yet. He who has the gold rules and the foreign nations certainly have the gold. I don't personally expect Obama to make any great change, I just hope he will change some things that he can which might actually benefit the middle class but I honestly doubt it. WE, the "sheeple" have let this great country get in this condition and WE are going to have to fix it...if it isn't too late. I expect our forefathers are turning in their graves because of how we've squandered the freedom they fought and died to give us.

I take back what I said sort of - see message
I keep reading more and more websites that say the Wetland project in SF IS in the bill. I've been trying to find a link that will give word for word what is in the stimulus plan but I can't find anything. Since you said it's not in the plan can you give me a link that shows what exactly is in the plan?

your reply is sort of cute....nm
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This was meant to be a sort of black humor!! nm
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I'm just sort of in shock. I'm not even going to post a link. nm
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I guess I would say more center because I have sort of walked (sm)
the line between democrat and republican all along, so that would be more along with my thinking. I guess as far as what I would want to lose to get more to the center, I would have to say that I would want partial-birth or late term abortions to be illegal unless it was a threat to the mother's life. I would want unwanted babies who are born alive to have human rights to receive appropriate medical care. The other issue I have with O is his associations, but of course that has nothing to do with whether he is farther right or left, so I guess abortion is my only right/left issue.

The Post (sort of) issued an apology.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Sharpton_Post_editor_insulting_public_with_0219.html

Ironically (LOL), when I read some posts on this board denying this is blatant racism by the Post, the mental image I get is this (hoping it prints):

Hear

You have to check and double check every single thing they say. They're not capable of telling t
truth about anything. It's getting very boring and tedious to read their crap. Why won't they stay on their own board like they tell us to do?

Sounds like a fine man voting his conscience, sort of like
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Not as much as putting out an ad from your campaign...
with stamp of approval on it. That says more, in my opinion.

As far as Jewish people...Sarah Palin is going to the protest but on by Jewish leaders protesting Ahmadinejad addressing the UN...so McCain's campaign is supporting Jewish people there in a very public way. That also says a lot.

that's putting it lightly

Putting lipstick on a pig is like saying there's more than a hair's difference between a socialist and a communist. At least a few of us around here get it. Why they refuse to believe that the company one keeps is relevant is beyond me. If I showed up to dinner with Charles Manson or similar, gee, what would that say about me?

The Dems are so used to having govt make decisions for them from cradle to grave. No thanks, BHO, I'm a big girl and can make my own decisions. Frankly, I can't afford those decisions of his, nor can any of the rest of the country.

Have you noticed that this place mirrors the far-left loons like HuffPo, Kos, & moveon? I'm not talking generic Dems. I'm talking Michael Moore, Babs Streisand, etc. Unbelievable!

if he was putting country first, he would have
pick a more qualified VP candidate. That pick was to help him with the base. In the whole country, he believed she was the MOST qualified? Lieberman was his personal choice. But Lieberman certainly would not have gotten him the Christian vote.

Why are u putting blame elsewhere.
I hate to say it, but could be because he is black or arab african.

Well gee - excuuuuuze US, for not putting it
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how about for putting this country in sm
the worst economic mess it has ever seen and doing it in a matter of less than 5 months? That would be a great start!

But then I guess folks with your mentality can't see the obvious.

Bush was sort of in national guard but never showed for the physical... that counts? Cheney was nev
duh?? ya'll?

You are putting that out of context, Democrat. SM

In fact, the conversation was very polite and respectful at all times. Wow, how two people can remember things so differently. Says a lot.

Great post!! Thanks for putting this up. nm
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I don't call that putting down her country....she
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Perhaps when putting yourself out as an immigration law expert,
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Scary is putting it mildly.

My 16-year-old is NO WAY going to a barrack to learn civil defense or civil service. I do not mind community service, she does that now, but no way in heck is she going to a barrack for 3-4 months.

I did not ask for this stupid crazy change. I want my ole United States back. It was not perfect, but this has gone too far. Rahm is nothing but scum between my toes and to think of a creation of his Marxist youth corps is %^&&*(*.

The next you know, we are all going to have to get "THE MARK" SOON ON YOUR FOREHEAD OR HAND AREA which we all know is the 666. LOOK OUT COUNTRY HERE IT COMES, YOUR NEW CHANGE. Yes I can, yes I can, yes I can. What for? CHANGE. What kind of change? Heck if we know.

Will never last. Obama is putting us in debt we may
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This administration is putting USA security in
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You are putting apples with oranges.,
this has nothing to do with that.

PLEASE. I did not say *a lot*. Stop putting words in my mouth! nm

It is all OUR business because we are putting our country's welfare in this...sm
governor/mother/grandmother's hands.

She will eventually have to face those questions of how she can perform such an important job and tend to the needs of her daughter, her daughter's baby and her own baby.

Putting her political ambitions above Bistol
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