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Pretty weak - Johnson was a product of Texas politics,

Posted By: Zauber on 2005-08-27
In Reply to: Nope, how about Lyndon Johnson and the Gulf of Tonkien? nm - sm

....just like Bush, Rove, Delay, and a slew of other Suite F-8 Texans now strangling our democracy. Kennedy didn't like him, and Johnson went into fits of rage over his brother, Robert Kennedy, who he never referred to as anything but that son of a b****. Johnson was financed throughout his unstoppable career by Brown & Root (today KBR, a subsidiary of Halliburton). Politically he was a far closer match to the current Republicans both in ideology and political technique (woo them with money, destroy them if they won't cooperate with the agenda, and remember to feed that war machine at every opportunity).

Johnson was a Democrat because 60 years ago that was the Texan standard. But, he paved the way for the current breed of southern Republicans to take control. It's no surprise that Johnson leapt right into Viet Nam or collaborated with people who wished to deceive and manipulate the American people - that is what these people do. Kennedy was the true Democrat - but that just wouldn't do for either Johnson or the rest of his political soulmates who are, of course, Republicans.


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Pretty weak charge if you ask me.

It'll probably be dropped in a few days but not until the media is allowed to have their way with them, and the liberal bloggers tar and feather him.  Does anyone remember travelgate and the Clinton land deal scandals.  I'm sure you dems/liberals don't recall that at all....


Before you start condemning one Republican politician to hell you better take a look into your own party's closet.


I'm pretty concerned about the Texas crooks s/m
You know everything is bigger and better in Texas.  Bush/Cheney have pretty much proved to my satisfaction that crooks even grow bigger in Texas.  Chicago crooks will have to get up pretty early to beat 'em.
Produce not product...nm
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Truman was decent, Johnson was not. sm
Johnson was not even liked by his own party.  In fact, there were many conspiracy theories amont the DEMOCRATS that he had something to do with Kennedy's death.  Kennedy, despite his personal life, was one of the best presidents we ever had.  Truman and Kennedy and even Johnson were real Democrats, not like those of today. 
I would suspect that Peggy Johnson
is in for a RUDE awakening. 
Truman and Johnson both had sharp minds.

They may not have been polished but they could think on their own and put an entire sentence together all on their own. Truman, I believe, said **The buck stops here.*** Being a war time president, he took full responsibility for what was going on on his watch for which he was much admired, here and abroad. Johnson gave us civil rights. I did not much like Johnson personally but I admired what he did. He said **I have just given the south to the Republicans** when he signed civil rights into law, but, he had the courage of his convictions and did the right thing, control or no control, votes or no votes. I cannot say the same about the current administration. To them the buck stops anywhere but with them and they would do ANYTHING  to keep their party in control, sacrifice a few seats here and there in order to do the right thing, not in this lifetime, not if it means losing control.


Interesting you should mention 2 Democrats as unpolished but (I assume) decent presidents.


It IS important that our president can express himself well. We as a nation look more and more weakened because our leader does not read and  cannot produce a complete sentence to save his soul; and he was elected to be OUR president and the leader of the free world. What does that say about all of us. The more situations deteriorate the more inarticulate he becomes.  America has always been the mediator in the Middle East but this time, the Italians and the French OMG showed up first.  Norway and Greece were the first on the scene to move Americans out of Lebanon. When asked if they were surprised that the first to show up were not Americans, the Americans in Lebanon said ***NO, I mean, look at Katrina. We thought we would be here a long long time.***  I know that many on the right don't care what the world thinks of us but I do and I think it is always best to have allies. This administration just burns bridges. Scary Scary Stuff.


 


How many funerals did Johnson and Clinton attend.
Answer me that.  It is inappropriate because it seems you will use any tragedy to further your sad and disturbing hate for this president. I get that by reading these boards. 
Nope, how about Lyndon Johnson and the Gulf of Tonkien? nm

Levi Johnson is not a political figure - take it to the gab board
He is not a political figure and neither is Bristol.

When you don't get your own way or can't argue with anything, you claim others are whining. Typical and embarrassing on your part. You have nothing to argue with to my other post so you say I'm whining????? I'd laugh if it wasn't so pathetic.

This topic is not about Sarah Palin or what she is doing in her job as Governor. It has nothing to do with the state of Alaska, and last I knew she and McCain lost, so you can't be whining about what they are doing on the campaign trail.

Oh here's a news flash for you since you don't know this yet. The elections are over. They ended on 11/04/08. Obama/Biden won and McCain/Palin lost - just so you'll know.

Let me repeat once again...

Levi Johnson...not in politics or a political figure...

Bristol Palin...not in politics or a political figure.

Please take the juvenile remarks about how happy you are that people are suffering to the gab board, and leave this board for valid political discussions. Actually I think you might have more fun on funsites.com/ki-teen or facebook. They have the age group there for this kind of discussion.

Get a grip!
She was in state politics at the time, not national politics......
how much foreign policy experience did Bill have when he went to the presidency having only been a governor? The same as Sarah Palin. Because he was concentrating on his job...the state of Arkansas (and Paula Jones and what was that stripper's name?). Sarah Palin was concentrating on the state of Alaska.

Good grief. lol. Why don't you poll all the governors in all the states in the union and ask them how much they think about foreign policy?
So tell me - what political office does Levi Johnson and Bristol Palin hold -sm
Answer: None. What contract did they sign? Answer: None. If they did sign a contract like you said they did, I'd like to see the paper with their signatures on it. This post has nothing to do with the job that Gov. Palin is doing. It has nothing to do with what she is doing in her office, politics, or for the people of Alaska. It is not talking about issues that affect our lives on a daily basis (like skyrocketing taxes, unemployment, people losing homes, etc). This post is about as juvenile as they come. Again you need to take this to the gab board or a website that speaks of such juvenile issues.

Last I knew Sarah Palin was not exploiting anything right now. She has gone back to Alaska and is no longer running for VP for an election that has ended. And if you want to talk about exploiting children lets talk about Biden and that grandson he grabbed up and held onto everytime a camera came into site. It was like watching George with Kuato attached to his chest from the movie Total Recall. Now that there is a crat prop if I ever saw one.

If you hate Palin so much then fine. At least have the decency to pick on her for something she did. Levi Johnson and Bristol Palin do not hold any political office and they did not sign any contracts so that they could be bashed and harrassed the rest of their lives.

You said it "if you are looking for a more intelligent read, I suggest you start reading comic books". So you even admit that your posts are less intelligent than comic books.

I would suggest you and others that want to continue this juvenile discussion there are still issues of Archie and Veronica and Veronica and Betty comic books out there you could read too.

As for non-political issues (i.e. Levi Johnson and Bristol Palin's personal lives) take it to the gab board or a teenager website where you could discuss til your hearts content. Leave this board for political discussions.

And give it a rest. We are sick of non-political issues on this board.
Weak and willing?
At least she is well-versed on the issues and doesn't bash like some "radical" posters out there.  Gimme a break.  Oh, I'm sorry.  Are you too weak and willing?  Didn't think so. 
Yes, we are weak. nm
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That's weak...
The laws do not affect you.  The only way that law would affect anyone is if they chose to marry their partner of the same sex.  You have always had the choice to marry whomever you choose as long as they are of the opposite sex.  HOW WOULD IT AFFECT YOU PERSONALLY?  No one seems to be able to answer that. 
weak

and ineffective.


 


Be weak?....(sm)
Since when has showing restraint and exercising morals been weak? 
indeed, other than a few weak

statements from a few muslims that *islam is a religion of peace* where are the denunciations of the actions of radical muslims? 


i think jews, christians and muslims probablyy all worship the very same god by different means and with differing degrees of zealotry or tolerance.  try explaining the trinity to a jew or muslim, and how that actually does not mean there are 3 gods. 


just as that god did not step in and stop some of the horrors committed in his name by christians, he will not do so when muslims commit them.  it is up to us to police ourselves.  don't be looking for god to smite anybody real soon...


How much more weak
can you get than to not care about the unborn on this planet? I don't believe God makes any of us suffer. I believe most suffering is brought on by ourselves. Drugs, cigarettes, alcohol, unhealthy diet, along with multiple other abuses all in the name of "doing what feels good." We suffer because of our own choices which God gives us freely. He didn't create robots. So why shouldn't the unborn be allowed to have the privilege of suffering like the rest of us? ;-)
Like I said, weak enough to follow
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We are weak - see message
I believe we are weak because people would rather sit around and watch Survivor, American Idol and other reality & TV shows than to do something and stand up to government. I have a 32yo BIL who believes that his 14 year old niece should go to war and not him because he works at a hi tech company and is too important and too intelligent to be in the military, and there are literally thousands of people in this country who think like him. Americans (not all but a majority) will not do without. They live in the now (gimmee gimmee gimmee, I want I want I want). As for our government I honestly do not know what to think. These are the same people who gave a 700M bail out the other week and now upon finding out the companies who received the bail outs are not using them to help the people (the reason they were intended for), but instead they are pocketing the money for themselves and taking lavish holidays at resorts with thousand dollar "spa" retreats, and walking away with $90M bonuses. And the government is not demanding the money back or for them to use it for what it was intended for. I think a lot of democratic politicians think the same way Obama does (or close to it) and they will give Obama whatever he wants. My grandfather who was in WWII told me that when war started up everyone signed up. They all wanted to serve and they knew it meant the could be killed in action. Now adays nobody feels the same patriotism they did back then. He said patriotism is a lot more than hanging a flag from your car or in front of your house. So I do believe a lot of America (not all but a lot) is weak.
Right. This seems a very weak choice.
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just fodder for the weak
truthfully, no ill will intended. It's so easy to manipulate the weak - they get all bound up and ATTACK. Do I care? Not in the least. Do they pay my rent? Not this month. I enjoy the bitter nastiness of those who have nothing else to offer. Nobody REALLY wants to have polite discourse, they just want to attack anything that does not meet their idealology - quite amusing, really. All it takes is an inane comment......
Hmm, this confuses me. It is the meek (not weak)
Difference in meaning, with meek meaning humble, docile, compliant and weak meaning no strength, vigor, or spiritually lacking strength.

This post seems written by someone else, someone who believes in God and the teachings of Jesus, but your other posts are borderline mean toward conservative voters, many of whom are Christians with Christian ideals very much like the ones you claim to possess in the above post. This seems very contradictory and as such, almost disingenuous.
They came to Texas, too. SM
My Vietnam veteran brothers and I and a bunch of the rest of us were there to meet and greet them.  Needless to say, they didn't get anywhere near the funeral procession. 
Only in Texas :)........ sm

Hunting blind - only in Texas

Fort Worth Star Telegram - Dec 12, 2006

House Bill 308 would allow Texans who are blind to go hunting. With guns. With real bullets... 
Perhaps Dick Cheney's hunting performance inspired the bill. Cheney is apparently blind and he is permitted to hunt birds in Texas.


 


80R1572 SGA-F


 


By:  Kuempel                                      H.B. No. 308


 


 


 


A BILL TO BE ENTITLED


AN ACT


relating to the use of laser sighting devices by hunters who are legally blind.


BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:


SECTION 1.  Section 62.005, Parks and Wildlife Code, is amended to read as follows:


Sec. 62.005.  HUNTING WITH LIGHT.  Except as provided by Section 62.0055, no [No] person may hunt a game animal or bird protected by this code with the aid of an artificial light that casts or reflects a beam of light onto or otherwise illuminates the game animal or bird, including the headlights of a motor vehicle.


SECTION 2.  Subchapter A, Chapter 62, Parks and Wildlife Code, is amended by adding Section 62.0055 to read as follows:


Sec. 62.0055.  HUNTING WITH LASER SIGHTING DEVICE BY LEGALLY BLIND HUNTER.  (a)  In this section, legally blind has the meaning assigned by Section 62.104, Government Code.


(b)  A legally blind hunter may use a laser sighting device during regular hunting hours when assisted by a person who is not legally blind.


(c)  The legally blind hunter must carry proof of being legally blind.


SECTION 3.  (a)  Not later than January 1, 2008, the Parks and Wildlife Commission shall adopt rules that prescribe what is acceptable as proof of being legally blind under Section 62.0055, Parks and Wildlife Code, as added by this Act.


(b)  The Parks and Wildlife Department may not enforce Section 62.0055(c), Parks and Wildlife Code, as added by this Act, until the rules adopted under Subsection (a) of this section take effect.


SECTION 4.  This Act takes effect immediately if it receives a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each house, as provided by Section 39, Article III, Texas Constitution.  If this Act does not receive the vote necessary for immediate effect, this Act takes effect September 1, 2007.


Texas, etc

I think it is like the old saying; you can take the person out of Texas but you can't take Texas out of the person.  LOL  I miss the BBQ most I think.


We must be in the same age group, 'm.........arg.........65.  Unfortunately I didn't know a lot about my family, didn't get interested in genealogy until most of the older members of my family had passed, small family to begin with.  I only remember bits and pieces of stories they told.  I found it interesting that my G-G-grandfather freed his slaves before the War, yet my G-grandfather fought and died to preserve the rights of slave owners.  One can find out some interesting things.  I go back to one G-G-grandfather who was born in VA and then moved to TN before moving to AR in 1830.  Everyone searching that family branch comes to a dead end with him.  It is said that there was some kind of family scandal about the time of his birth but either no one knows or they aren't sharing what the scandal was.  He doesn't match DNA with any of the other branches of the family.  Strange indeed.


Maybe we should continue this discussion in email?  I've taken us way off topic haven't I?


Of course they were. Being from Texas, I can
tell you Dubya is not a Texan/cowboy/regular guy. He's a rich spoiled yuppie from Connecticut who easily fooled those who are easily fooled. And it would be wonderful if that's the worst thing he's done in the last 8 years. They just announced on the news we have the highest unemployment rate SINCE 1974. Thanks W...
and they can HAVE Texas!

What you are seeing below is a weak attempt at damage control 101...

That announcement sucked all the air out of the big speech, everyone is talking about Sarah Palin, not Barack Obama.  And the best they can do is take potshots at Alaska and that she was in a beauty pageant...and oh I thought the rampaging moose thing was REALLLYYYYY funneeeee.  Obama is not the only one front and center that people are excited about...and if these folks think the PUMA folks are going to fall into line because the DNC tells them to....they have another think coming.  Just my opinion of course....


i agree. It makes McCain look weak and
what a great leader he would make...McBush...
A "different approach". Go ahead, be weak.
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Texas. Probably Obama most
prevalent. Can't help but think what 150 mil could do just in Galveston and Port Bolivar right now after Ike. These people are not getting all the fine help others have gotten, probably those in Iowa understand completely what I am saying. Voted yesterday by the way. Certify I am living, breathing, just voted one time and in only one voting place!
4 bucks? We pay 6 in Texas.
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texas seceding

I hope Texas does secede -- I'd leave this sinking ship in a heartbeat, right ahead of the rats.


sam, weak argument based on semantics, that reporter's
implication was all too clear, and just another stupid accusation in order to mislead yet more uneducated, misinformed voters.
It shows you have a biased opinion and a weak mind.
I'm sure the Hitler Youth loved their newsletter just as much as you hate-festering libs love your Huffington Post.

And you really need to spend a second to look up the definition of "terrorist."

If a "terrorist" was anyone who commits murder, your Saint Tiller (may his stinking corpse rot in his grave) is the prime example of a TERRORIST. 60,000 infants executed. And yet all you can focus on is your hate for anything Christian.

How pathetic.
I heard they moved to Texas already. nm
dopeypeople
Uhh...no...Bush would still be in Crawford Texas
We would still have weeks, if not months, of hillbilly wrangling before we tried to "talk" the pirates out of releasing the captain.

It just sucks that you people have to admit that Obama did a good job. It really sucks eating crow.
Right on Texas - you rock! I want to move there
Now I understand the true meaning of "Don't Mess with Texas"

http://blogs.chron.com/texaspolitics/archives/2009/04/perry_says_texa.html


FYI, Halliburton and KBR are headquartered in Houston Texas
the "ties" between the Bush Family and Halliburton and KBR are legendary down in the Lone Star and go back generations. W's Uncle Prescott was director at Dresser Industries, which is now part of Halliburton. HW Bush worked there as well 1948-1951. KBR was embroiled in the W administration controversy surrounding the cimcumvention of normal contractor hiring protocol for Iraq. You must have a really short attention span.
Being from Texas, I've had an extra 5 years
Don't believe in all that phoney outrage. I've done my time and prefer to call a spade a spade.
Oh yeah, Texas is the right place for the likes of him sm
Family oriented? He produced 2 drunken daughters. His wife is nice but the rest of them are pathetic entitled spoiled rotten human beings.

Oh yeah, Texas is the right place for the likes of him sm
Family oriented? He produced 2 drunken daughters. His wife is nice but the rest of them are pathetic entitled spoiled rotten human beings.

What land in Texas is even worth 'grabbing'?
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Secret Service Shows Up At Texas Mom's Door...














Quote:
They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me,
and by that time no one was left to speak up.








Quote:
Last week, here in America, they came for Jessica Hughes, and I will not be silent. I will not turn away, hoping, in the end, they will not come for me.

Jessica Hughes of Lufkin, Texas, former Marine, mother of three, answered her cell phone in the car, coming home from the emergency room. Her 9-year-old had suffered a mild concussion, but was OK.

The caller was a female Obama volunteer who asked if Jessica would support Obama for president.

Jessica replied, "No, I don't support him. Your guy is a socialist who voted four times in the state Senate to let little babies die in hospital closets; I think you should find something better to do with your time." Then Jessica hung up.

The next day, a man and a woman in suits showed up at the door of her home, identifying themselves as members of the Secret Service.

The Secret Service agents stated that the Obama campaign had complained of a death threat. They had quoted Jessica as saying, "I will never support Obama, and he will wind up dead on a hospital floor."

Jessica's husband had heard Jessica's side of the original phone call and verified the actual quote. To which the female agent replied, "Oh? Well why would she (the Obama volunteer) make that up?"

Jessica replied that the Obama volunteer was probably unhappy about what Jessica had said about her candidate. The female agent then said "That's right, you were rude!"

The male agent then displayed a file with Jessica's full name prominently printed on it and asked her how she felt about Obama. At this point, the former Marine told the agent "in no uncertain terms" (as she later recounted) that this was America and that the last time she checked, she was allowed to think whatever she wanted without being questioned by the Secret Service. And was being "rude" a federal crime now too?

The agents then admitted they had no tape of the conversation, just the quote from the Obama campaign.

Responding to Jessica's questions, the agents would not identify themselves by name, nor reveal the name of the Obama volunteer who had made the complaint. The agents did indicate that Jessica was not in a court of law yet, and that they were trying to not embarrass her "by going to all her family and neighbors."

To these implied threats, Jessica invited the agents to speak to whomever they wanted, and stated she would happily go to court since she had done nothing wrong.

Jessica asked the agents, "Look, someone calls me unsolicited on my cell phone to ask me to support their candidate, and I can't tell them why I don't?"

The Secret Service left Jessica that day, but she could not get the "visit" out of her mind.


Source:http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77825

Good Ole Texas lets you buy candy and soda
with food stamps.

As republican a state as you can get. So who are the moochers again?
Truth is, Bush's Texas tort reform is hurting everyone.
Except, of course, his rich friends. That's so much better, isn't it, than laws which address the issues directly and favor the greatest number of citizens?

Texan tort reform that was W's payback to the wealthy who put him in office in Texas has been a disastrous model, giving doctors less incentive than ever to perform skillfully and leaving thousands of people with no recourse when they are medically victimized because they can't afford any longer to bring a justified lawsuit or can't prove the doctor intended to cause harm (a ridiculous qualifier). Insurance rates have gone UP instead of down for everyone despite the fact that tort reform was sold on the platform of cutting rates due to fewer insurance payouts. And, those who can manage to get a case into court no longer have the right to have a jury hear their case. Activist pro-Republican pro-big-business judges are all they've got in some cases, which means they haven't a fair chance at a favorable outcome.

That's life in crony capital USA!

But oooh, let's pretend it really *is* medical lawsuits that are the villains, and let's boo and hiss at the lawyers who make sloppy doctors and sellers of defective merchandise fear being held accountable for their actions. Isn't that what life in Bushworld is all about? - relieving the very best among us from any civic and legal responsibility for the destruction and death they cause? Let's all cheer for that! Go on sm, cheer some more for losing your right to sue a drunk doctor who kills your child! Cheer for your higher insurance rates! Cheer for your free market enterprise unfettered with quality laws, because you know they're going to be more concerned about the safety of those products they sell you than they are about making more money! Heck yeah, why shouldn't we all love that? We're all morons, we love it when they stick it to us! We can't get enough of that, nosiree!
Mandatory evac all along Texas coast. I'm hearing lots.
I live in the path of Ike.  Mandatory evac supposedly is starting around 10 a.m.  I am trying to figure out whether I am staying home or hitting road.  Whenever they come up for breath in the middle of lipstick on pigs and McCains preverted add long enough to actually name the mandatory evacation towns/cities, I'd appreciate a heads up.   
Texas supreme court affirms special rights for religion

The Texas state supreme court ruled unanimously on Friday that a town which had altered its zoning to ban two church-sponsored halfway houses in a residential neighborhood was in violation of the Texas Religious Freedom Restoration Act.


That act, which was passed in 1999 and endorsed by then-Governor George W. Bush, affords greater legal protection to religious operations than to equivalent secular operations.


Under its provisions, cities have to prove that zoning regulations — like the one passed by the town of Sinton to ban jails and rehabs within 1000 feet of a home, school, or church — further a “compelling” interest, such as protecting public safety, and do not place a “substantial burden” on the free exercise of religion.


Town officials asserted that the zoning regulations placed no restrictions on worship or the practice of religion and were merely intended to protect the safety of residents. This position was upheld at the local and appeals court levels.


However, the all-Republican and generally conservative state supreme court agreed with Pastor Richard Barr’s claim that because the town of Sinton is so small, the regulation had the effect of excluding him from operating his “ministry” for parolees anywhere.


Barr’s case was argued by the conservative Liberty Legal Institute (LLI) and was also supported by the American Center for Law and Justice — founded by Pat Robertson — and by the ACLU.


LLI was involved several years ago in a widely-noted case against a Texas school district which its litigation director, Hiram Sasser, claimed had demonstrated “pervasive religious hostility” by banning the distribution at Christmas time of candy canes with a religious message.


According to Sasser, today’s decision “means that in zoning cases you have to give churches special treatment. … You have to have very special reasons for telling a church you can’t locate here and locate there. That’s going to be a touch burden for cities.”


“This is a home run,” Sasser proclaimed. ‘I think it will be a model for other states.”


That's right. Unfortunately, that's politics.nm
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Now, this is politics.....for sure......