Sadly, most don't have a clue and
Posted By: sm on 2009-02-25
In Reply to: you prove my point so well - shelly
don't really care what got us in this mess. Banks and mortgage companies were forced to give subprime loans because the democrats wanted EVERYBODY to have house, whether they could afford it or not, giving everyone the belief they were somehow entitled to a home, money or no money. The law was pushed by the democratic party (for those who bother to read it) and it became law that the banks HAD to make these loans AND the law put in place these institutions making money on these worthless pieces of paper. They were forced to do the business with those who had no business in there in the first place getting a loan. And for those who knew they were living beyond their means and even lying about the income, they should have to bear the burden of their stupidity. I do not feel the least bit responsible for keeping them in their home. We live well below what a bank told us we could afford and we have......better safe than sorry!
For all those that think free handouts somehow will make a better country for us and hitting companies that employ with MORE taxes and treating those who are fortunate enough to be rich as if rich is a bad word and going after their income, do those same people EVER stop to ask themselves who the heck pays their assistance!!! It's those who have more money.....duh!! If you didn't have them, you wouldn't have your free money in the first place but lets certainly not discuss that, Heaven forbid!
I'm glad you see the writing on the wall but I'm afraid for those who voted for Obama who are now changing their tune are realizing all too late they have been screwed.
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Sadly, no.
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Sadly....
to some Americans, we will never be "color blind" and the race card will still fly frequently by some people.
Also, it is sad that even though some of us see that Obama is inexperienced and how that has hurt us, etc......there are many that still love the fool. I guess it will take, God forbid, another terrorist attack on US soil or our economy to totally collapse before people get a clue. Although I'm sure they will still give Obama the thumbs up because....hey.....this is ALL Bush's fault....remember? Can someone please pass the kool-aid around?
Sadly, the first thing...
I thought when I heard **foiled terror plot** was Wag the Dog. I do not believe that this is a hoax in any way, but it is certainly distressing when the first entity you suspect in any cover up or any **make up stuff** is your own government. The timing was what made me think that. With W's popularity in the toilet, over half of Americans wanting out of the war and Lamont winning in Connecticut, without something to distract us, the Lamont win and what it means could have taken over the news for some time to come. Can't have that. Now we are not thinking about Iraq, Lebanon, Hezbollah, Israel or changing the face of our House and Senate in November. We are all focused on the terrorists again. Same thing with BP. Very much like Enron, all of a sudden they have to close down the oil pipe and CA gets hit the hardest. BP makes tons of money, we all begin to think drilling anywhere is okay. The administration is happy. The oil companies are happy. I did hear that BP is going to try to keep the pipe open now while they do repairs. There was SOOOOO much criticism about the timing and the fact that they have known for years that the pipe is corroded that they have been forced to do something different. Anyway, I believe that the deal at Heathrow was the real thing, not a ploy in any way. I trust the British and Scotland yard much more than I do this administration and the CIA/FBI. It is just disturbing that it has come to this. I take everything I hear with a grain of salt until it is proven to me to be true. I used to trust my government but I fear them now. I just hope we are all still here in November 2008.
Sadly this is so true
Like I said, this is a high school class president campaign, not a USA presidential campaign. What he promises he cannot deliver.
Are there any adjectives besides sad and sadly? n/m
Sweet! Sadly, I think you are right. I need a better job. LOL nm
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Sadly, some of the senators, if not all,
think we DO want this. Doesn't matter how many calls they get. They think we just love mortgaging ourselves, our children, and our grandchildren.
There are a few that are fighting against the bill as it stands but....and I know a certain person will blast me for this but Schumer, Dodd, and Kerry absolutely screamed today that this package is what HAS to pass. Schumer stated right out that it's what the people want. Kerry stated there was no reason to cut anything from it. Dodd stated that the TARP package has money in it to help with the mortgage debaucle so why they want amendments to the tune of $9B in this one was beyond him.
So, if there is money in TARP for the homeowners, why aren't the homeowners being helped? No rocket science in that. The banks and Wall Street are keeping it.
They just don't get it.
Sadly the blame game is what we
get to hear the most instead of actual plans and solutions to this that won't end up screwing us in the end.
I've learned more about the economy than I ever have in the past couple of days. Makes me wish I'd have listened in economics in high school. Hind sight is 20/20. LOL!
Have a great day! 
Sadly enough there are those that live in the same make
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I sadly enough agree with you Gourdpainter
I think the ugliness has barely begun. Truth will out in the end, it always does.
Sadly, this is reality in my state, also......nm
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Exactly! Sadly, Americans cant seem to wake up.
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You're right. Sadly enough you've wasted your
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It is disgusting, huh? Sadly, I have lost faith
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Sadly, there are plenty of wimpy miserable little
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I think sadly you are right, I always thought that if I would vote Republican, it would be for McCai
and believe he really wants to do good for this country; my own thought was that he was advised, after seeing all the disillusioned Hillary supporters who were not completely sold on Barack yet, that he should pick a female running mate, scoop up all the disappointed Hillary supporters who would want a female in the White House, and it all blew up, Ms. Palin was just not an intelligent choice as running mate, she brought him down, and I think it all snowballed so quickly that all Mr. McCain could do was watch as the snowball hit bottom and disintegrated. But I believe he is a very good Senator.
Sadly, common sense and good behavior...........sm
are seldom rewarded but highly expected and those who practice sound financial habits are often not given the breaks that those who do not are given. It just seems harsh to say "screw them" when one may not know the circumstances and when there may be children involved who would be homeless through no fault of their own. Guess I'm just a little tender-hearted about that.
Sadly, the haters started to hate him way before he even took office....sm
I have mixed views here, but I found it amazing, as I read this board around election time, and then shortly thereafter, that all the Bushwackers and Right Wingers were already condemning and DOOMING the Obama administration....way before the man even took the oath of office! Now George had 8+ years to do good for this country, to help the economy, the reach out to the poor, to upgrade the educational system, and what did his administration do? Let's see, instead of getting Bin Ladin, we spend billions and billions, and thousands of precious lives, on a war with Iraq for those infamous invisible WMDs which no one could find, and which was reported to the President ahead of time. We have made most of the world hate us for our arrogance and stupidity. He let Wall Street run amok and watched the country go down in ashes....stop bashing Obama, no he is not God, he is not perfect, he has faults, he will make mistakes inevitably (and I am not fond of several things in the stimulus bill), but by God give him a chance, he has barely been in office a MONTH versus 8 excruciating, embarrassing years with the Bush gang, support him as our American President, and stop DOOMING his administration before he even gets a chance. Sorry, off my worn-out soap box now!
Here's another clue.....
I figured you were being sarcastic. Just wanted to make sure you were being as nasty as I thought.
You know, Minnesota and Wisconsin both prepared for several thousand evacuees and we were more or less turned down due to distance from Louisiana. In my home town a bunch of us offered long-term housing/jobs/resources/transportation for 100 folks but then were told we'd probably have no takers.
What I'm trying to say is that things are not always as portrayed, both by the left and the right and the in-between.
I would also suggest you ponder why the need to be nasty as it really does not advertise your political philosophy very well.
Here's a clue. SM
I have never and would never say I was a liberal. I would rather die. Literally. There are a lot of people who post on here as MT. There are also variations. MT2, OldMT, AncientMT, DecrepitMT...well, you get the picture. I am not sure why you feel it is your function in life to answer every post about gt, unless you ARE gt. Hey, you can accuse, so can I. But the fact remains, you are mistaken. I rarely post here anymore and my posts are always polite and have been for some time.
Hey, buy a clue. Not everything is about YOU! nm
You don't have a clue who he is. ....
or what he's about, or you couldn't possibly say that. How sad.
You really don't have a clue that there's
Ignorance: Sometimes it's bliss.
You don't have a clue
Go back to vicious and nasty.
You don't have a clue either........
If you knew anyone with a small business and asked them what this would do for their pocketbook they would tell you their business would end up dying. Obama has very cleverly disguised to most who do not pay attentin and do not care that small businesses will NOT be harmed by his little cuts. Well, all the mandated policies that sound so great have to be paid for. Obama's idea of small business means any business bringing in 250K a year. Maybe you think that's a lot of money but it is nothing. That money has to pay for employees, expenses, workmen's comp, huge taxes already, the list goes on and on and many are hanging on by a thread as it is.
These same companies whom he sees to think will do just fine will be out of business. They will be mandated to death. They cannot afford paid medical leave while employing someone else to do their job and then what? If you knew anything about running a business with paid employees/benefits, etc., you would know Obama's plan has put a nail in their coffin.
You would not have a clue.nm
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You need to get a clue...........really!
Schools do not have to teach homosexuality in order to teach children to be kind to one another and not verbally or physically attack another child. There is just a boat load of crap!!
My children were taught you don't call other children names, bully them, or make fun of them in any way and to treat them in the same way they would want to be treated. I didn't have to specifically point out the gay kids or any particular "group".
How absolutely ridiculous is your comment. When I was in school, we absolutely knew there were gay kids and guess what? They hung out with us just like anyone else. There was one kid in theneighborhood who was gay and had the most smart as@ed mouth in the group,put down EVERYONE and everybody, made fun of fat people, people with glasses, people he thought were crazy in the head. Pleeeze!!! lets stop with the poor little gay children ignorant remarks you make. That kid did get his butt kicked a few times but not because he was gay (which he never outwardly admitted) but because he was a smart as@ed who had it coming to him. Even his daddy would make him go apologize for his smart mouth.
Ever think the gay kids harrass anyone? You are so narrow minded and caught up in all this crap!
Unlike you, I didn't spend my years growing up making all these judgement calls on everyone as you obviously do.
You need to get a clue...........really!
Schools do not have to teach homosexuality in order to teach children to be kind to one another and not verbally or physically attack another child. There is just a boat load of crap!!
My children were taught you don't call other children names, bully them, or make fun of them in any way and to treat them in the same way they would want to be treated. I didn't have to specifically point out the gay kids or any particular "group".
How absolutely ridiculous is your comment. When I was in school, we absolutely knew there were gay kids and guess what? They hung out with us just like anyone else. There was one kid in theneighborhood who was gay and had the most smart as@ed mouth in the group,put down EVERYONE and everybody, made fun of fat people, people with glasses, people he thought were crazy in the head. Pleeeze!!! lets stop with the poor little gay children ignorant remarks you make. That kid did get his butt kicked a few times but not because he was gay (which he never outwardly admitted) but because he was a smart as@ed who had it coming to him. Even his daddy would make him go apologize for his smart mouth.
Ever think the gay kids harrass anyone? You are so narrow minded and caught up in all this crap!
Unlike you, I didn't spend my years growing up making all these judgement calls on everyone as you obviously do.
You need to get a clue...........really!
Schools do not have to teach homosexuality in order to teach children to be kind to one another and not verbally or physically attack another child. There is just a boat load of crap!!
My children were taught you don't call other children names, bully them, or make fun of them in any way and to treat them in the same way they would want to be treated. I didn't have to specifically point out the gay kids or any particular "group".
How absolutely ridiculous is your comment. When I was in school, we absolutely knew there were gay kids and guess what? They hung out with us just like anyone else. There was one kid in theneighborhood who was gay and had the most smart as@ed mouth in the group,put down EVERYONE and everybody, made fun of fat people, people with glasses, people he thought were crazy in the head. Pleeeze!!! lets stop with the poor little gay children ignorant remarks you make. That kid did get his butt kicked a few times but not because he was gay (which he never outwardly admitted) but because he was a smart as@ed who had it coming to him. Even his daddy would make him go apologize for his smart mouth.
Ever think the gay kids harrass anyone? You are so narrow minded and caught up in all this crap!
Unlike you, I didn't spend my years growing up making all these judgement calls on everyone as you obviously do.
Think about it. Here's a clue. I was being sarcastic
no further message needed
And your clue is to vote
who is robbing the middle class blind while giving tax breaks to billionaries...you know, Bush's base, the haves and have mores? Tell me, are you part of this elite base? May I suggest you read the book, What's the matter with Kansas? see link below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_the_Matter_with_Kansas
I think I'll stick with my parents' party and such leaders as FDR and JFK...people who actually gave a rat's a** about the backbone of this country, the workers and middle class.
If you had a brain, you'd have a clue. sm
Unfortunately, you don't have either. And you are dangerous. You put us all at risk. Especially the military you PRETEND to support. And it is a pretense. We all know it. Cowards. You are all cowards.
You obviously have no clue about his history, a
community organizer in the gettos of Chicago before he even went to Harvard Law School, president of the Harvard review, a very intelligent person, brought up by his single-parent mother and his grandparents to be a compassionate and honorable man, and someone who understands that a president cannot be the end all monarch of American, but knows how to appoint people to his team with expertise. He is a good father, a family man, with a wife that supports him. No one wants to say it, but the biggest reason most white people don't want to vote for him is because he is black and smart.
Obama has no clue...sm
on how to fix the financial crisis. Meanwhile, his democrat cronies responsible for this mess (Dodd et al.) sit and pontificate their point of view of the problem, conveniently leaving themselves out of the mix......
The dems are doing their best to ruin this more and cause more class envy and warfare.
You obviously have no clue as to the Muslim...sm
or any other religion other than your own. There a zealots in every religion, I repeat, EVERY religion, closed minded people who believe everything that they hear from dubious sources. Do you know anything about any religion other than Christian? I should mention that I am a Christian. The Muslim religion is very devout, fundimentally believe in the same God Christians believe in, they believe in peace and goodness for their people. They believe Jesus was a good man, a prophet, but do not believe he is the son of God. I have Muslim friends. They DO NOT believe in the extremism of Osama bin Laden and are proud Americans. Something that everyone should keep in mind is that every? major war that has been fought in history has been somehow or other be fought or justified by involking the name of God.
Get a clue and grow up
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Wouldn't have a clue.
I think, though, we need to abandon the idea of the "trickle down" theory because we had eight years of that, and all it did was make the rich more greedy. We need to regulate (and prosecute) the Wall Street crooks, that's for sure.
Do you own a business? If not, you don't have a clue
Small businesses are laying off right now DIRECTLY RELATED to Obama being in office. I personally know several small business owners in this town with anywhere from 50 to 200 employees and they are already laying off and anticipating laying off more BECAUSE of Obama's regulations which he is/will IMPOSE on small businesses, while all the while convincing O lovers such as yourself that job loss has absolutely nothing to do with him!
I know this for a fact! So don't be so quick to give your Obama a free pass.....
He is running this dog and pony show with disasterous results already!
You can't keep pointing your finger at Bush for the rest of Obama's term; Obama is directly responsible for ALL the mistakes he is now making.... why don't you hold him responsible???
I think we know the answer to that question, so never mind.
Do you have any clue whatsoever....(sm)
what the perks of being president are? Along with his salary, he also gets an annual $50,000 entertainment expense account, just like previous presidents have received. Did you gripe about Bush entertaining people at the White House while he was running up the deficit? I doubt it.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/CEOProfiles/story?id=6806414&page=1
If Katrina was a clue, I would say probably UN forces.sm
In addition to the Blackwater security and Israelis, armed Mexican soldiers entered the US for the first time since 1800s to supposedly provide aid. Possibly conditioning Americans to the perception that foreign troops on US soil policing US citizens in times of emergency is normal. I know they train here on our military bases because I have met some in Colorado, mainly Romanians.
The Army Times reported that hurricane survivors who wouldn't leave New Orleans were to be treated as insurgents and that combat operations to eliminate them were undertaken. This is where the so-called 'relief' effort was directed towards - treating American citizens like terrorists and hunting them down simply for wanting to stay in their own homes. And once they were caught, FEMA treated evacuees as internees, registering them and giving them ID cards, preventing them from leaving the internment camps.
Simple, he doesn't have a clue either.
He's just giving lip service and hoping us dumb little, wrapped-up-in-our-own-lives citizens, will just be so complacent and compliant, that we just accept his ridiculous response and go on with our lives, being screwed at every corner, thinking, "WHEW, at least our government is going to take care of it".......right!!!!!
Don't have a clue what you're talking about so
Quran Surah 4: Women
Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 89
If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.
Quran Surah 5: The Table Spread
Christians will be burned in the Fire. 72
Quran Surah 6: The Cattle
Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 125
Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 128
Surah 9: Repentance
Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 113
Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 123
As much as Christians are harshly put down on this board, my God does not teach me to fight disbelievers, to not pray for them, to ignore idolators (not even for your family?), which would be the very ones we would want to pray for.
Also, my God does not purposefully lead people astray so he can them burn them in hell.
Basically, Muslims are taught to love other Muslims; otherwise, everyone else are nonbelievers and are not worthy of their love.
Get a clue people. This FREAKS ME OUT.
I am off the board. This is it. Our United States will never be the same. You want change, you are going to get your change. Downhill from here. Hope you all like the Hitler years. Maybe the O is the messiah, anti-Christ, whatever. This is not a normal political election. Major movement going on. Nothing like this is posted about McCain. Everything on this board is trying to convince everyone of horrible things about O. Nothing about McCain and if McCain comes up, it is so petty. I think some of you like the thrill of what will happen in the next year if O makes it. GOD HELP US ALL if he does. Probably God's wrath will be on us. At least that is what I have been reading on CBN, Kay Arthur, etc.
I dont think Obama has a clue either. This man of
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Yeah, or he just hasn't got a clue!
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Get a clue! Clinton started a lot of it.
I saw it coming, the housing bubble in 2005. Some big wig California investor bought my house 150,000 more than what it is worth now today and bought other homes because he "had to get into the big buying bubble." Well, the bubble exploded and now he is out 150,000 on my house and way more because of the other 6 homes he bought too with no money down and interest only mortgages. That was the fault of the treasury department and banks. NOT BUSH. I on the other hand saw it coming and walked away with 300,000 in my pocket because of greedy people. Was I greedy? No, we had to move out of state during the housing bubble in 2005. Did Bush help me? No Did Obama help me? No. Did the government help me? No. God, the higher authority one helped my family and knew when the right time was for us to move and I sold my home in "4 hours." Some one higher is watching over me and my family and surely not anyone who is in the government.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
You obviously don't know a thing about Britain in the 1930s, when Hitler was coming into power. Britain banned Winston Churchill and wouldn't let him speak in the house of parliamant, because he was speaking the truth about what Germany was doing to the Jewish people, and they didn't want to hear it! Well, we all know what happened there!
This whole thing started with Jacqui Smith..... because of ALL the violence in Muslim neighborhoods and all the Muslim leaders in Great Britain inciting hate and violence, she was to compile lists of Muslims who incite violence around the world with a call to jihad and make sure no more of these types of people can get into Great Britain. Well, they were on the right track there until of course politics got in there and someone convinced her they didn't want to seem to have a problem with Muslims, so they thought it best to throw in a couple of white guys so it wouldn't look so "profilish".
Speaking of hate-mongers, they have lots of muslims standing in their streets threatening violence to Britain and the United States, standing right in the streets of Great Britain big as you please incisting violence. Now that Britain has realized what a mistake it is to have them in their country and just what evil people they are, they are seeking to get them out and at the very least, keep anymore from getting in their country.
Too bad they didn't go after Rev. WRight....now there's a violent man inciting hate and violence if ever I saw one!!!
Kim Jong II isn't on that list. Chavez the sicko isn't on that list.
There are British people in the streets calling for the overthrow of their own government and for good reason! Their government has turned into just what this country is turning into. Butt kissing sissies!!!
Remember Abu Izzadeen? The race hate preacher? I doubt you have a clue who I'm talking about, cause you know nothing about anything, just diarrhea of the mouth. Izzadden PRAISED the July 7 London suicide bombings in the streets, and has been freed after spending barely serving 12 months of a 4-1/2 year sentence!! I believe his words were, "The Americans and British only understand one lanuage, the language of blood". He has called for ALL UK Muslims to kill British troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. But I suppose YOU no doubt find him more appealing than Savage. Now THERE'S a hate monger...no... there's an evil human being. He now walks the streets of London again, spewing his inciteful hate and in full view trying to encourage all Muslims in London to KILL Britains and Americans.
Yep, you got it all figured out. Britiain is scared to death; their own police won't even go into Muslims neighborhoods because the violence is just THAT bad!!!
They're a bunch of sissy wimps who have now found themselves stuck with very evil people by the thousands in their own backyards and now they are regretting it!!!
Just a little clue for you far left Democrats. Thank GOD you don't represent
the mainstream Democrats. Here's the clue. The harder you try to remove God from our consciousness by any means, be it in the Pledge, or any other venue, the harder we will fight you. You WILL NOT remove God from us by any means as long as we live. There are a whole LOT of Democrats who feel this way, too, so don't feel that just because you speak,you speak for them. I feel sorry for you. I don't know where you comfort comes from. I can't possibly imagine a world without God and his grace, forgiveness and love. This is one battle you will not win.
Interestingly, a lot have no clue how manipulated things are by them. sm
Their corporations own the media, Hollywood, Federal Reserve and, yes, even politicians. I definitely see Bush as a puppet, but many say he is not as dumb as everyone thinks, maybe dumb when convenient.
Anyway, the US government has a history of creating incidents and being dishonest to get public support for wars. Thanks to the Freedom of Information Act and declassification of documents, we now know to be fact:
1. Operations Northwoods
Unexecuted plan created by US military to stage a fake attack by Cuba against the US for the purpose of justifying war with Cuba. Documented fact.
2. Tonkin Incident
That thrust us into Vietnam - pretty much now common knowledge that it never happend. Jittery sailors and/or radar abberations leveraged by LBJ to gain popular support for unpopular war, and a blank check from congress.
3. Pearl Harbor
Long held rumor backed by some fairly compelling evidence that FDR both instigated and was aware that the Japanese would attack. At the time 89% of the US population did not want to be involved in Europe's war...
The fact remains that when the government remains secret and manipulative after an attack on the United States, when an administration uses an attack to further its own political goals, puts money in the pockets of its corporate cronies, it makes people tend to question what they are told and to not believe anything the administration says. Bush has made it worse still by lying about nearly every single detail concerning the Iraq invasion, specifically why we invaded. The more lies we hear, the less we believe and the farther back we start to question.
A quote from PNAC's Rebuilding America's Defenses:
Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor.
PNAC - page 50.
Here's a clue. Ever heard of the Bush Doctrine?
somehow I think you might have more on the ball than she does.
Wow, I have no clue where you get "prevent," "insisting," and "restrictions" from.
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