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And your clue is to vote

Posted By: for the party...see msg on 2005-09-25
In Reply to: Never again - Use to be one

who is robbing the middle class blind while giving tax breaks to billionaries...you know, Bush's base, the haves and have mores? Tell me, are you part of this elite base? May I suggest you read the book, What's the matter with Kansas? see link below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_the_Matter_with_Kansas

I think I'll stick with my parents' party and such leaders as FDR and JFK...people who actually gave a rat's a** about the backbone of this country, the workers and middle class.


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I agree neither choice is great, but will vote McCain just as a vote against Obama. nm
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A vote for Ron Paul is a wasted vote. No chance on Earth he can win. sm
Votes for him only take away from the real candidates.
Good point. I don't vote party, I vote for the
person.  Every Democrat is not bad and every Republican good or vice versa.
Here's another clue.....

I figured you were being sarcastic.  Just wanted to make sure you were being as nasty as I thought. 


You know, Minnesota and Wisconsin both prepared for several thousand evacuees and we were more or less turned down due to distance from Louisiana.  In my home town a bunch of us offered long-term housing/jobs/resources/transportation for 100 folks but then were told we'd probably have no takers.


What I'm trying to say is that things are not always as portrayed, both by the left and the right and the in-between.


I would also suggest you ponder why the need to be nasty as it really does not advertise your political philosophy very well.


Here's a clue. SM
I have never and would never say I was a liberal. I would rather die.  Literally.   There are a lot of people who post on here as MT.  There are also variations.  MT2, OldMT, AncientMT, DecrepitMT...well, you get the picture.  I am not sure why you feel it is your function in life to answer every post about gt, unless you ARE gt.  Hey, you can accuse, so can I.  But the fact remains, you are mistaken.   I rarely post here anymore and my posts are always polite and have been for some time. 
Hey, buy a clue. Not everything is about YOU! nm

You don't have a clue who he is. ....
or what he's about, or you couldn't possibly say that. How sad.
You really don't have a clue that there's
Ignorance: Sometimes it's bliss.
You don't have a clue
Go back to vicious and nasty.
You don't have a clue either........
If you knew anyone with a small business and asked them what this would do for their pocketbook they would tell you their business would end up dying. Obama has very cleverly disguised to most who do not pay attentin and do not care that small businesses will NOT be harmed by his little cuts. Well, all the mandated policies that sound so great have to be paid for. Obama's idea of small business means any business bringing in 250K a year. Maybe you think that's a lot of money but it is nothing. That money has to pay for employees, expenses, workmen's comp, huge taxes already, the list goes on and on and many are hanging on by a thread as it is.

These same companies whom he sees to think will do just fine will be out of business. They will be mandated to death. They cannot afford paid medical leave while employing someone else to do their job and then what? If you knew anything about running a business with paid employees/benefits, etc., you would know Obama's plan has put a nail in their coffin.


You would not have a clue.nm
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You need to get a clue...........really!
Schools do not have to teach homosexuality in order to teach children to be kind to one another and not verbally or physically attack another child. There is just a boat load of crap!!

My children were taught you don't call other children names, bully them, or make fun of them in any way and to treat them in the same way they would want to be treated. I didn't have to specifically point out the gay kids or any particular "group".

How absolutely ridiculous is your comment. When I was in school, we absolutely knew there were gay kids and guess what? They hung out with us just like anyone else. There was one kid in theneighborhood who was gay and had the most smart as@ed mouth in the group,put down EVERYONE and everybody, made fun of fat people, people with glasses, people he thought were crazy in the head. Pleeeze!!! lets stop with the poor little gay children ignorant remarks you make. That kid did get his butt kicked a few times but not because he was gay (which he never outwardly admitted) but because he was a smart as@ed who had it coming to him. Even his daddy would make him go apologize for his smart mouth.

Ever think the gay kids harrass anyone? You are so narrow minded and caught up in all this crap!

Unlike you, I didn't spend my years growing up making all these judgement calls on everyone as you obviously do.
You need to get a clue...........really!
Schools do not have to teach homosexuality in order to teach children to be kind to one another and not verbally or physically attack another child. There is just a boat load of crap!!

My children were taught you don't call other children names, bully them, or make fun of them in any way and to treat them in the same way they would want to be treated. I didn't have to specifically point out the gay kids or any particular "group".

How absolutely ridiculous is your comment. When I was in school, we absolutely knew there were gay kids and guess what? They hung out with us just like anyone else. There was one kid in theneighborhood who was gay and had the most smart as@ed mouth in the group,put down EVERYONE and everybody, made fun of fat people, people with glasses, people he thought were crazy in the head. Pleeeze!!! lets stop with the poor little gay children ignorant remarks you make. That kid did get his butt kicked a few times but not because he was gay (which he never outwardly admitted) but because he was a smart as@ed who had it coming to him. Even his daddy would make him go apologize for his smart mouth.

Ever think the gay kids harrass anyone? You are so narrow minded and caught up in all this crap!

Unlike you, I didn't spend my years growing up making all these judgement calls on everyone as you obviously do.
You need to get a clue...........really!
Schools do not have to teach homosexuality in order to teach children to be kind to one another and not verbally or physically attack another child. There is just a boat load of crap!!

My children were taught you don't call other children names, bully them, or make fun of them in any way and to treat them in the same way they would want to be treated. I didn't have to specifically point out the gay kids or any particular "group".

How absolutely ridiculous is your comment. When I was in school, we absolutely knew there were gay kids and guess what? They hung out with us just like anyone else. There was one kid in theneighborhood who was gay and had the most smart as@ed mouth in the group,put down EVERYONE and everybody, made fun of fat people, people with glasses, people he thought were crazy in the head. Pleeeze!!! lets stop with the poor little gay children ignorant remarks you make. That kid did get his butt kicked a few times but not because he was gay (which he never outwardly admitted) but because he was a smart as@ed who had it coming to him. Even his daddy would make him go apologize for his smart mouth.

Ever think the gay kids harrass anyone? You are so narrow minded and caught up in all this crap!

Unlike you, I didn't spend my years growing up making all these judgement calls on everyone as you obviously do.
Then you need to vote for Obama. A vote for McCain will...sm
not help you. Obama wants to give tax relief to 90% of Americans who earn 1% of the gross earnings in this country. The top 1% of earners bring in 90% of earnings. Any one person who earns $250,000 or less will benefit from Obama's tax plan.
they didn't vote - they registered to vote -
that is a big difference. The votes were not counted, they were stopped by the means in which they were supposed to be stopped - ID verification, address verification, etc. The cards were filled out by the ACORN workers and then given to the proper authorities to sort through.

The phony registrations were pulled out by the actual authorities. ACORN is just a middle man.
We get what we vote for. If we vote "party", we get extremes.
If we make it a point to try to identify candidates who hold moderate views and vote for them, rather than voting a "party ticket", we'll have a better chance of getting away from these extremes, whether right or left.

One of the problems, though, is that candidates often play games with their real positions. During the primaries, they talk the "party" line and then they move to the center for the general election. Both sides do this, unfortunately.

The only hope is to look at their past records - and take them seriously. History is prologue to the future. When a man has done certain things in his adult life, it tells us more about him than anything he says. If Obama hasn't taught us this fundamental truth, we'll never learn it. The evidence about him goes all the way back to his days in law school, and it was available for anyone to see. Some didn't bother to look. Others looked and didn't take it seriously. Either way, we weren't paying attention or he'd have probably never made it through the primaries.

No one can pull the wool over your eyes unless you let them, and the way they do it is by making smooth speeches filled with unlikely promises (and even glaring contradictions as they appeal to groups with opposite interests). They believe we won't notice the lies, exaggerations and mischaracterizations of their opponent's positions, etc. Unfortunately, they are often right.

Let's start taking the candidates' prior records and their life histories as the best evidence of who they really are - not their speeches. If we do this, we'll make better choices.
Think about it. Here's a clue. I was being sarcastic
no further message needed
If you had a brain, you'd have a clue. sm
Unfortunately, you don't have either.  And you are dangerous. You put us all at risk.  Especially the military you PRETEND to support.  And it is a pretense.  We all know it.  Cowards.  You are all cowards.
You obviously have no clue about his history, a
community organizer in the gettos of Chicago before he even went to Harvard Law School, president of the Harvard review, a very intelligent person, brought up by his single-parent mother and his grandparents to be a compassionate and honorable man, and someone who understands that a president cannot be the end all monarch of American, but knows how to appoint people to his team with expertise. He is a good father, a family man, with a wife that supports him. No one wants to say it, but the biggest reason most white people don't want to vote for him is because he is black and smart.
Obama has no clue...sm
on how to fix the financial crisis. Meanwhile, his democrat cronies responsible for this mess (Dodd et al.) sit and pontificate their point of view of the problem, conveniently leaving themselves out of the mix......

The dems are doing their best to ruin this more and cause more class envy and warfare.


You obviously have no clue as to the Muslim...sm
or any other religion other than your own. There a zealots in every religion, I repeat, EVERY religion, closed minded people who believe everything that they hear from dubious sources. Do you know anything about any religion other than Christian? I should mention that I am a Christian. The Muslim religion is very devout, fundimentally believe in the same God Christians believe in, they believe in peace and goodness for their people. They believe Jesus was a good man, a prophet, but do not believe he is the son of God. I have Muslim friends. They DO NOT believe in the extremism of Osama bin Laden and are proud Americans. Something that everyone should keep in mind is that every? major war that has been fought in history has been somehow or other be fought or justified by involking the name of God.
Get a clue and grow up
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Wouldn't have a clue.

I think, though, we need to abandon the idea of the "trickle down" theory because we had eight years of that, and all it did was make the rich more greedy.  We need to regulate (and prosecute) the Wall Street crooks, that's for sure.


Sadly, most don't have a clue and
don't really care what got us in this mess. Banks and mortgage companies were forced to give subprime loans because the democrats wanted EVERYBODY to have house, whether they could afford it or not, giving everyone the belief they were somehow entitled to a home, money or no money. The law was pushed by the democratic party (for those who bother to read it) and it became law that the banks HAD to make these loans AND the law put in place these institutions making money on these worthless pieces of paper. They were forced to do the business with those who had no business in there in the first place getting a loan. And for those who knew they were living beyond their means and even lying about the income, they should have to bear the burden of their stupidity. I do not feel the least bit responsible for keeping them in their home. We live well below what a bank told us we could afford and we have......better safe than sorry!

For all those that think free handouts somehow will make a better country for us and hitting companies that employ with MORE taxes and treating those who are fortunate enough to be rich as if rich is a bad word and going after their income, do those same people EVER stop to ask themselves who the heck pays their assistance!!! It's those who have more money.....duh!! If you didn't have them, you wouldn't have your free money in the first place but lets certainly not discuss that, Heaven forbid!

I'm glad you see the writing on the wall but I'm afraid for those who voted for Obama who are now changing their tune are realizing all too late they have been screwed.
Do you own a business? If not, you don't have a clue
Small businesses are laying off right now DIRECTLY RELATED to Obama being in office. I personally know several small business owners in this town with anywhere from 50 to 200 employees and they are already laying off and anticipating laying off more BECAUSE of Obama's regulations which he is/will IMPOSE on small businesses, while all the while convincing O lovers such as yourself that job loss has absolutely nothing to do with him!

I know this for a fact! So don't be so quick to give your Obama a free pass.....

He is running this dog and pony show with disasterous results already!

You can't keep pointing your finger at Bush for the rest of Obama's term; Obama is directly responsible for ALL the mistakes he is now making.... why don't you hold him responsible???

I think we know the answer to that question, so never mind.

Do you have any clue whatsoever....(sm)

what the perks of being president are?  Along with his salary, he also gets an annual $50,000 entertainment expense account, just like previous presidents have received.  Did you gripe about Bush entertaining people at the White House while he was running up the deficit?  I doubt it.


http://abcnews.go.com/Business/CEOProfiles/story?id=6806414&page=1


If Katrina was a clue, I would say probably UN forces.sm
In addition to the Blackwater security and Israelis, armed Mexican soldiers entered the US for the first time since 1800s to supposedly provide aid. Possibly conditioning Americans to the perception that foreign troops on US soil policing US citizens in times of emergency is normal. I know they train here on our military bases because I have met some in Colorado, mainly Romanians.

The Army Times reported that hurricane survivors who wouldn't leave New Orleans were to be treated as insurgents and that combat operations to eliminate them were undertaken. This is where the so-called 'relief' effort was directed towards - treating American citizens like terrorists and hunting them down simply for wanting to stay in their own homes. And once they were caught, FEMA treated evacuees as internees, registering them and giving them ID cards, preventing them from leaving the internment camps.


Simple, he doesn't have a clue either.
He's just giving lip service and hoping us dumb little, wrapped-up-in-our-own-lives citizens, will just be so complacent and compliant, that we just accept his ridiculous response and go on with our lives, being screwed at every corner, thinking, "WHEW, at least our government is going to take care of it".......right!!!!!
Don't have a clue what you're talking about so
Quran Surah 4: Women

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 89
If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.

Quran Surah 5: The Table Spread
Christians will be burned in the Fire. 72

Quran Surah 6: The Cattle
Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 125
Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 128




Surah 9: Repentance
Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 113
Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 123


As much as Christians are harshly put down on this board, my God does not teach me to fight disbelievers, to not pray for them, to ignore idolators (not even for your family?), which would be the very ones we would want to pray for.

Also, my God does not purposefully lead people astray so he can them burn them in hell.

Basically, Muslims are taught to love other Muslims; otherwise, everyone else are nonbelievers and are not worthy of their love.

Get a clue people. This FREAKS ME OUT.
I am off the board.  This is it.  Our United States will never be the same.  You want change, you are going to get your change.  Downhill from here.  Hope you all like the Hitler years.  Maybe the O is the messiah, anti-Christ, whatever.  This is not a normal political election.  Major movement going on.  Nothing like this is posted about McCain.  Everything on this board is trying to convince everyone of horrible things about O.  Nothing about McCain and if McCain comes up, it is so petty.  I think some of you like the thrill of what will happen in the next year if O makes it.  GOD HELP US ALL if he does.  Probably God's wrath will be on us.  At least that is what I have been reading on CBN, Kay Arthur, etc.   
I dont think Obama has a clue either. This man of
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Yeah, or he just hasn't got a clue!
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Get a clue! Clinton started a lot of it.
I saw it coming, the housing bubble in 2005. Some big wig California investor bought my house 150,000 more than what it is worth now today and bought other homes because he "had to get into the big buying bubble." Well, the bubble exploded and now he is out 150,000 on my house and way more because of the other 6 homes he bought too with no money down and interest only mortgages. That was the fault of the treasury department and banks. NOT BUSH. I on the other hand saw it coming and walked away with 300,000 in my pocket because of greedy people. Was I greedy? No, we had to move out of state during the housing bubble in 2005. Did Bush help me? No Did Obama help me? No. Did the government help me? No. God, the higher authority one helped my family and knew when the right time was for us to move and I sold my home in "4 hours." Some one higher is watching over me and my family and surely not anyone who is in the government.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
You obviously don't know a thing about Britain in the 1930s, when Hitler was coming into power. Britain banned Winston Churchill and wouldn't let him speak in the house of parliamant, because he was speaking the truth about what Germany was doing to the Jewish people, and they didn't want to hear it! Well, we all know what happened there!

This whole thing started with Jacqui Smith..... because of ALL the violence in Muslim neighborhoods and all the Muslim leaders in Great Britain inciting hate and violence, she was to compile lists of Muslims who incite violence around the world with a call to jihad and make sure no more of these types of people can get into Great Britain. Well, they were on the right track there until of course politics got in there and someone convinced her they didn't want to seem to have a problem with Muslims, so they thought it best to throw in a couple of white guys so it wouldn't look so "profilish".

Speaking of hate-mongers, they have lots of muslims standing in their streets threatening violence to Britain and the United States, standing right in the streets of Great Britain big as you please incisting violence. Now that Britain has realized what a mistake it is to have them in their country and just what evil people they are, they are seeking to get them out and at the very least, keep anymore from getting in their country.

Too bad they didn't go after Rev. WRight....now there's a violent man inciting hate and violence if ever I saw one!!!

Kim Jong II isn't on that list. Chavez the sicko isn't on that list.

There are British people in the streets calling for the overthrow of their own government and for good reason! Their government has turned into just what this country is turning into. Butt kissing sissies!!!

Remember Abu Izzadeen? The race hate preacher? I doubt you have a clue who I'm talking about, cause you know nothing about anything, just diarrhea of the mouth. Izzadden PRAISED the July 7 London suicide bombings in the streets, and has been freed after spending barely serving 12 months of a 4-1/2 year sentence!! I believe his words were, "The Americans and British only understand one lanuage, the language of blood". He has called for ALL UK Muslims to kill British troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. But I suppose YOU no doubt find him more appealing than Savage. Now THERE'S a hate monger...no... there's an evil human being. He now walks the streets of London again, spewing his inciteful hate and in full view trying to encourage all Muslims in London to KILL Britains and Americans.

Yep, you got it all figured out. Britiain is scared to death; their own police won't even go into Muslims neighborhoods because the violence is just THAT bad!!!

They're a bunch of sissy wimps who have now found themselves stuck with very evil people by the thousands in their own backyards and now they are regretting it!!!




Just a little clue for you far left Democrats. Thank GOD you don't represent
the mainstream Democrats.  Here's the clue.  The harder you try to remove God from our consciousness by any means, be it in the Pledge, or any other venue, the harder we will fight you. You WILL NOT remove God from us by any means as long as we live.  There are a whole LOT of Democrats who feel this way, too, so don't feel that just because you speak,you speak for them.  I feel sorry for you. I don't know where you comfort comes from.  I can't possibly imagine a world without God and his grace, forgiveness and love.  This is one battle you will not win.
Interestingly, a lot have no clue how manipulated things are by them. sm
Their corporations own the media, Hollywood, Federal Reserve and, yes, even politicians. I definitely see Bush as a puppet, but many say he is not as dumb as everyone thinks, maybe dumb when convenient.

Anyway, the US government has a history of creating incidents and being dishonest to get public support for wars. Thanks to the Freedom of Information Act and declassification of documents, we now know to be fact:

1. Operations Northwoods
Unexecuted plan created by US military to stage a fake attack by Cuba against the US for the purpose of justifying war with Cuba. Documented fact.

2. Tonkin Incident
That thrust us into Vietnam - pretty much now common knowledge that it never happend. Jittery sailors and/or radar abberations leveraged by LBJ to gain popular support for unpopular war, and a blank check from congress.

3. Pearl Harbor
Long held rumor backed by some fairly compelling evidence that FDR both instigated and was aware that the Japanese would attack. At the time 89% of the US population did not want to be involved in Europe's war...

The fact remains that when the government remains secret and manipulative after an attack on the United States, when an administration uses an attack to further its own political goals, puts money in the pockets of its corporate cronies, it makes people tend to question what they are told and to not believe anything the administration says. Bush has made it worse still by lying about nearly every single detail concerning the Iraq invasion, specifically why we invaded. The more lies we hear, the less we believe and the farther back we start to question.

A quote from PNAC's Rebuilding America's Defenses:

Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor.
PNAC - page 50.

Here's a clue. Ever heard of the Bush Doctrine?
somehow I think you might have more on the ball than she does.
Wow, I have no clue where you get "prevent," "insisting," and "restrictions" from.
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The word hate is directed at you, gt. Get a clue as to your hatred. nm

You're sarcastically clueless. Any chance you could buy a clue?


If you took a second out of your I love Bush, and nobody else cloud, you would see that we do care about our soldiers, our countrymen.  But, you're so full of the Bush Kool-Aid you can't see straight. Did you even read the article???  You obviously didn't from your response.  Knowledge is a powerful thing.  It's not just liberals feeling this way about Bush and his war, the country is at a divide and more people support his impeachment than those who supported Clinton's impeachment that by the way republicans pursued on their own to defame the president in front of the world any all and any cost. So you can save your do the right thing speech.


I have no clue why you added this Bush rant to my post...
George Bush did not single-handedly send troops to war. There is that little ol thing called Congress who have to vote to allow him to go to war, he can't just do it on his own. And guess what...they DID. Democrats and Republicans alike. I just don't understand why some Americans don't understand THAT. Blame it on George Bush, like he was King or something. He did not do it alone. And you are right, I will NEVER accept that ANY soldier died for no reason. How arrogant of anyone to even suggest such a thing. Our men and women in uniform go where they are sent and they do their duty. Shame on ANY American who would publically say those brave young men and women died in vain, I don't care what their politics are. To me, that reeks.

I also do not know why it is so easy for some Americans to totally ignore the many reasons we went into Iraq. Have you ever actually read the Iraq resolution passed by Congress? I seriously doubt it. Hussein was in violation of so many UN resolutions it would take a ream of paper to list them. And he did finance and harbor terrorists. One of the perps of the Achille Lauro hijacking lived out his miserable life there being given free medical care and a free ride by the Hussein government. Zarqawi had his little terrorist training camp up in Northern Iraq for a year before we went in. One of Hussein's higher ups met with Mohammed Atta a couple of months before 9-11. What do you think they were talking about? The weather?

I don't believe I even mentioned the President in my post. I believe we went into Iraq for a good reason, we had been hit and we had to hit back harder. We did so in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have not had another major attack since that happened. Wonder why that is...????

My point is, the President is not singly responsible for the war in Iraq. The Congress is just as responsible. So when you start to lay blame and malign the names of good men and women who died for something they believed in, even if you don't....you should spread the blame evenly. Get off the Hate Bush train and back into reality.
Not a clue as what this means. " The URL contained a malformed video ID."....
can you post the link again?
why dont you get a clue before you post nasty things
I have a mixed family and a BLACK boyfriend not that is any of your business
so i have plenty of knowledge in what the girls think of me

not just black girls but ALL Girls.
including you apparently.

how was i spewing race hatred? why dont you read ALL MY POSTS about the one i just wrote about atlanta?

god you people make me SICKKKKKK
im so used to jealousy it just slides off my back!!!

This misguided drivel. I don't think Rush has a clue. Blow-hard comes to mind.

I have to admit this is the first thing I've ever seen of his. He seems a bit out of it, to say the least.  He's also twisting reality beyond the bounds of truthfulness.


Why do we constantly get hammered with these ridiculous slanted, partisan postings?  Could we PLEASE JUST ONCE be shown something by the conservatives that is not from a propaganda source? 


"I think the extreme left and extreme right both need to get a clue!"..sm
That's what you said in a post above, and yet, your post is definitely extreme right.  I don't think you have a clue about most of the crap you spout out. 
She's got my vote
Nominate Cindy Sheehan for Time Magazine Person of the Year - Pass it on!
I'd vote for him
as long as he is a real man and not some man who cowers to every poll or what his wife tells him to do.  We need more real men in this country who say what they do and do what they say.  I think men are tired of being disrespected and not being, well, men.  I think you are right.  We as a people need to elect and everyday fly-over-country Joe to the presidency.  The type of Joe that still realizes what made this country great.  God, glory, and guts.  My pastor was just commenting on that this morning. 
vote war?

If you like war, empire building, big government then you are safe in voting for any of the candidates running for the presidential office, except for one: Ron Paul.


The agendas are all headed in the same direction, so you really do not have to worry about which one to vote for for.


Ron Paul is the only candidate with a different agenda. And of course, should he win, he cannot make changes overnight. But he could lead us in the direction of limited government, sound money, peace and constitutional law. Paul's ideas and principles are not new, but are similar to those of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and others.


I will vote Ron Paul.


 


 


I will vote for either one.
I consider it my job to get a dem elected this time, that's why I don't take part in the arguments about them.
don't vote
Please don't vote. If you can't see all the atrocious things that our current tyrant (err I mean president) has done and how he has damaged America in the world, please don't vote. I would really hate to see someone who has never bothered to open their eyes to the way the world is and taken the time to educate themselves in politics or world issues voting for someone in this election. I think all those people should just stay home because they have no idea what they are voting for or what that person might stand for.

And btw, if anyone was the antichrist it would be Bush and McCain. D-E-V-I-L.