Sarah was pointed out....(sm)
Posted By: Just the big bad on 2009-01-09
In Reply to: Doesn't make a difference - New Englander
because a) it was funny; b) she is a female; and c) she herself just got a raise (by a committee she formed for just that purpose) just since the election while Alaska is taking a big hit financially because the price of oil went down.
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you pointed something out...
We *MUST* have auto insurance or we are prohibited from driving our cars.
We *MUST* have homeowners insurance on our homes or we are disallowed having a mortgage.
*BUT* it's fine for an American citizen to go without insurance, even forced to go without when it's impossible to afford, yet we are still "citizens" of America and are forced to pay taxes...
...hmmmmmm....
They were also pointed out....(sm)
by other citizens as the US was offering rewards for ANYONE. Think about what kind of incentive that is to someone in that region with no money who's trying to feed their family.
As has been pointed out before,
having a 135 IQ, and obviously thinks it's pretty special. The rest of us realize that it is no more worthy of praise than the eye color or height we happen to have inherited. Much better to take credit for something we have actually accomplished, rather than what's in our DNA.
Most of us were IQ tested somewhere back in our school years, and yet do not have the score printed on our business cards. How many actually feel it necessary to share that number at the drop of a hat? Me neither.
I will do so when you do so. You pointed a barb at me....
"sometimes I think..." and when I fed it back to you, you complain. YOU stick to the issues and keep the barbs out, and I will do the same. If you dish it out, be prepared to take it.
Have a nice day, now. :)
there should be FINGERS POINTED
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Like Kendra pointed out............sm
it is foolish to enlist in the military and think you won't be sent into war. They are full aware of this when they enlist. That is like taking a job as a baker and thinking that, at some point, you won't burn your hand on the hot stove.
Yes and it must be pointed out that McCain
McCain's speech, while gracious, was given to a smallish "invite only" crowd, made of up largely white people, mostly white males. Obama had half a million people from all walks of life. That speaks volumes.
I did not see the *real* America represented in the crowd of McCain's supporters... that is NOT the same thing as saying those people are not real Americans - only that HIS crowd did not reflect the truth about our diverse American citizenry.
Because, as has been pointed out, several times here....
he is still in charge. Obama isn't even in the White House yet, but you seem to think it's fine and dandy to talk about him. I can see Russia from my house, also.
Because I pointed out the TRUTH, that...
...the majority of African-Americans voted for Obama? That "majority" was actually 97%. http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/politics/2008/November/Obama-Victory-Sealed-by-Minorities--Women.html
Because I pointed out that the largely hyped "tea parties," estimated to bring in millions of people, only actually brought in a couple hundred thousand? Because I pointed out that these tea parties don't have much to offer Democrats (including African-Americans, other than the resurgence of hate groups like the KKK, skinheads, etc.)? Or because I pointed out that Michael Steele was rejected by his OWN PARTY to speak at the Chicago tea party?
I did provide corroborative links for each statement I made, unlike some on this board who just throw out names, invent fiction and pretend it's true.
I wasn't being racist. If anything, I was being "classist" because I was referring to an entire class of people, including white people, as well, that has been hurt over the last eight years by corporate welfare. In case nobody has noticed, under the Bush administration, the middle class almost became extinct, so our society now mostly consists of rich and poor, regardless of race.
Please tell me SPECIFICALLY what was racist in my post, and then we can have a discussion. Of course, if a discussion really isn't within your realm of interest, then, please, by all means, just continue the juvenile name calling.
As I pointed out before...that fellow is not entirely honest either...
and Bush did not lie. While the bill does not explicitly state it will cover families to $83,000, it opens a loophole that will allow New York to again ask for the $82,600 raise and under the new bill would probably get it, because the stipulation preventing it was being removed. So basically what Bush said is true...he should have worded it differently.
Here are some things that were not brought forward that are also bad things about the bill:
Bush had good reason to veto SCHIP
By Grace-Marie Turner
Article Launched: 10/14/2007 01:33:38 AM PDT
Is President Bush a liar who hates children? That's what many of his critics now are asking in the opinion pages of major newspapers across the country. Why else, they say, would he refuse to sign a bill providing health insurance to poor kids?
Specifically, the president has vetoed a bill expanding the State Children's Health Insurance Program designed to provide health coverage to lower-income children. One nationally syndicated columnist went so far as to call Bush's rationale in vetoing the bill a "pack of flat-out lies."
This kind of rhetoric is wrong and misleads readers about the facts of this important issue.
There is no debate over whether to reauthorize the SCHIP program so it can continue to provide insurance to needy children. That's a given. The debate is about whether children in middle-income families should be added.
The president is absolutely right in insisting that SCHIP focus on its core mission of needy children. When SCHIP was created in 1997, the target population was children whose parents earned too much for them to qualify for Medicaid but not enough to afford private insurance. The president wants the program to focus on children whose families earn less than 200 percent of the federal poverty level. In today's dollars, that's $41,300 a year.
About two-thirds of the nation's uninsured children already are eligible for either Medicaid or SCHIP, but aren't enrolled. Raising the income threshold won't solve this core problem. Congress should require states to focus on the 689,000 children whom the Urban Institute says are uninsured and would be eligible for SCHIP if eligibility were limited to the $41,300 income level.
The other big problem is that, across the country, states are using SCHIP dollars to insure adults.
Fourteen states cover adults through SCHIP, and at least six of them are spending more of their SCHIP dollars on adults than on children. For example, 78 percent of SCHIP enrollees in Minnesota are adults, 79 percent in New Mexico, and 72 percent in Michigan.
With these statistics in mind, the Bush administration issued a ruling in August requiring states to demonstrate that they had enrolled 95 percent of eligible needy children before expanding the program.
Yet the bill that Congress passed, and which the president vetoed, nullifies that ruling and effectively refuses to agree that needy kids should get first preference. Instead, the congressional measure would give $60 billion to the states over five years to enroll millions more "children" - although many of them will, in fact, be adults. Others will be from higher-income families.
New York, for instance, could submit a plan that would add children in families earning up to $83,000 a year to SCHIP. New Jersey could continue to cover kids whose parents make up to $72,000. All the other states would be allowed to cover kids in families with incomes up to $61,000.
Most children in these higher income families are already covered by private insurance. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 77 percent of children in families earning more than twice the poverty line have private health insurance now.
No one doubts that SCHIP is a vitally important program for needy children, and that our nation needs to do a better job of helping working families afford health insurance. But giving the states incentives to add middle-income kids to their SCHIP rolls will prompt families to replace private insurance with taxpayer-provided coverage.
This is completely backward. The goal of SCHIP should be to provide private coverage to uninsured children. If Congress would send the president a bill that does that, he says he would sign it in a minute.
And when things are pointed out, people are bashed.
What's the use? Anyone who doesn't believe the O will do what he states is bashed. It was a joke (maybe), but jeez. Get a life.
Sarah Palin makes Sarah Palin look stupid!
The Democrats did not make Sarah Palin look stupid. Sarah Palin does a fine job of looking stupid without help from anyone. All she has to do is open her mouth!
is that you Sarah?
Finished with your good friend "Charlie" already and now here to share your words of wisdom?
Go Sarah!!!! ....sm
If SNL is spoofing her, they must think she's a major contender.
Yippee.....
By the way, I haven't seen SNL since the early years, is it any good anymore? Have they spoofed Obama yet?
Or are they giving him a walk, as most liberal type show/media things are doing?
(I can't play this, as my flash player is old....oh well....I'm sure it was funny, in a derogatory type of way, if you ladies enjoyed it that much.....)
let Sarah
take his place in debate with Barack Obama.
Let Sarah be Sarah....sm
She's the bright ray of hope in this election. She's the one REAL person out there on either ticket.
If they just let Sarah be Sarah, she will just bowl over Joe Biden tomorrow night.
I bet she will too.
She's got the most common sense, and right now, we need someone who is just like us, representing us, in Washington.
I'd vote for her over McCain in a second....wish like heck she was at the top of the ticket, because she is, the real deal. No doubt in my mind whatsoever.
You mean like Sarah in the
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So Sarah will have a son-in-law...
...and a mother-out-law.
John McCain can't even bring himself to endorse her now, which I think is the funniest thing of all.
thanks Sarah
real patriotic idears you keep regurgitating to keep your name in the news.
Yes, and I believe Sarah is a least a US citizen.
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Sarah Palin
Sarah Palin has just announced her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant and will be marrying the baby's father!
Sarah Palin was asking because
the voters were concerned about the language in some of them and felt it inappropriate for their children. This was to help keep bad language away from children. Not get rid of them because a certain race, nationality, etc. wrote them. The Nazis burned books written by Jews. This is entirely different.
As for my supposed untruth about Obama being Muslim at one time:
Obama's Kenyan birth father: In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.
Obama's Indonesian family: His stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."
The Catholic school: Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press reports that "documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim" while at a Catholic school during first through third grades. Kim Barker of the Chicago Tribune confirms that Obama was "listed as a Muslim on the registration form for the Catholic school."
Koran class: In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies, thereby revealing he was a Muslim, for Indonesian students in his day attended religious classes according to their faith.
Mosque attendance: Obama's half-sister recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events." Watson learned from childhood friends that "Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." Barker found that "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." One Indonesia friend, Zulfin Adi, states that Obama "was Muslim. He went to the mosque. I remember him wearing a sarong" (a garment associated with Muslims).
This along with his association with sketchy people including Ayers and his 20-year attendance to a church that promotes hates messages.....I feel I am justly right to be concerned about Obama and have reason to not trust him one iota.
Cool....go Sarah!!! sm
http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-and-charlie-gibson.html
Go Sarah and Joe!!! Go McCain...All the way to the
Go ahead and call 'em gimmicks if y'all want.
They're the real deal, and a lot of real Americans embrace them.
Sarah Palin says:
“And that’s cruel and it’s mean-spirited, it’s immature, it’s unprofessional, and those guys are jerks, if they came away with it taking things out of context and then tried to spread something on national news. It is not fair and not right.” Hmmm...
Who is Sarah and what are idears
My actual name is Mary. I have never used Mary and the last time I posted something on this board was the middle of December. Think around the 15th or 16th when I replied to someone, and the last time I wrote an original message was the beginning of December. It would serve you well to think before you acuse someone of something.
You don't like my post, fine, that's one thing. But to acuse someone of doing whatever it is your acusing me of, well that's just a bit arrogant on your part. Your reply was a bit confusing too. Were you cutting me down because you don't like that I don't use my real name (never have and never will - get over it) or you didn't like my idea. And if I wanted to keep my name in the news, wouldn't I be posting with same name over and over and over.
I particularly like the idea of the US dividing into separate countries. Especially with a lot of the posters on this board. I've never seen so many people who are willing to destroy our country and everything our country was founded upon and I would prefer not to live in the same country as they do without actually having to move. I don't agree in socialism. They do. Therefore by keeping their president and his socialistic viewpoints they can have him, love him, worship him, and dance around in circles every day while he's in office. I'd rather have a president that shares the same values as a lot of people like me do.
So...back to my original idea. It would serve you well not to assume things from now on, as you know what they say about people who assume.
Who is Sarah and what are idears
My actual name is Mary. I have never used Mary and the last time I posted something on this board was the middle of December. Think around the 15th or 16th when I replied to someone, and the last time I wrote an original message was the beginning of December. It would serve you well to think before you acuse someone of something.
You don't like my post, fine, that's one thing. But to acuse someone of doing whatever it is your acusing me of, well that's just a bit arrogant on your part. Your reply was a bit confusing too. Were you cutting me down because you don't like that I don't use my real name (never have and never will - get over it) or you didn't like my idea. And if I wanted to keep my name in the news, wouldn't I be posting with same name over and over and over.
I particularly like the idea of the US dividing into separate countries. Especially with a lot of the posters on this board. I've never seen so many people who are willing to destroy our country and everything our country was founded upon and I would prefer not to live in the same country as they do without actually having to move. I don't agree in socialism. They do. Therefore by keeping their president and his socialistic viewpoints they can have him, love him, worship him, and dance around in circles every day while he's in office. I'd rather have a president that shares the same values as a lot of people like me do.
So...back to my original idea. It would serve you well not to assume things from now on, as you know what they say about people who assume.
Does this mean Sarah gets another raise?...LOL
*Unlike President George W. Bush, who threatened to veto the two bills when they came up in the last session of Congress, President-elect Barack Obama has embraced them.*
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090109/ap_on_go_co/pay_equity
I can't wait to see who all opposes this bill. I hope they plaster them all over the news.
Sarah is still campaigning...(sm)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/28/sarah-palin-political-action-committee
I soooo hope she runs in 2012. How about Rush/Palin 2012.....ROFL....
So what if Sarah complains, BB.
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One more reason I like Sarah Palin....
....I betcha she makes a mean batch of cookies...
(and I won't say who doesn't, but I'm sure you all know)
I just read that Sarah Palin sm
sued Bush, etc., over making the Polar bears endangered species because it will hurt oil drilling. Has anyone else heard or read this? (Maybe it is old news and has been discussed here. I have been out of town and thankfully aware from my computer for the last day and a half.) If this is true than I am appalled. I guess she is not so new the whole for big oil thing and all. Most hunters and fishermen that I know want to help protect the environment.
I know she is anti-abortion, but did not know until just recently that she is also anti-abortion for cases of rape and incest. I think that is very extreme. Though, to be quite honest, I do think in most rape cases you are given the morning after pill.
The more I read and learn, the less I am liking. I was kind of excited at first.
If it is so important, where was it before Sarah Palin...
entered the race? Come on. You are trying to somehow add validity to making a 17-year-old political fodder. Now, after the cat is out of the bag, the political spin is being put on it. Go ahead and put the focus there...no one is going to be fooled by this. People who engage it in are still going to look like what they are.
Sarah Palin is gold!!!!!!!
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Savaging Sarah Palin...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20080903/cm_uc_crbbox/op_237245
Fine, put Sarah in his place. She has more
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You would think Sarah Palin is running for the top
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Why do they hate Sarah Palin so?........sm
Hi there. Very thoughtful and intelligent questions you're asking. I'm going to post the following column I found, that explains this phenomenon very clearly, I think.
http://townhall.com/columnists/AndrewTallman/2008/09/09/why_do_they_hate_sarah_palin_so?page=full&comments=true
Why do they hate Sarah Palin so?
by Andrew Tallman
I assume it is unnecessary to answer the logically prior question of whether or not they hate Sarah Palin. The level of vitriol flung at her over the past week and a half by critics in every liberal outlet ranging from The New York Times to Air America is particularly awe-inspiring given that this is all the longer they’ve even known her name. Ordinarily, such hatred takes years to cultivate. The force and acceleration of their vehemence virtually demands psychoanalysis. Since this sport is in vogue, I’ll give my diagnostic skills a shot at the trophy.
Preface: There Is a Pathology
The natural first reaction of a Palin-hater to this column is to deny the hatred. They will say it’s her politics, her religion, or possibly the whiff of scandal some have managed to ladle upon her. But if they’re honest with themselves, they’ll have to admit three simple facts.
First, the reasons they give aren’t the reasons they hate. If they didn’t have these, they’d manufacture others. There’s an old story about a man asking to borrow his neighbor’s lawn mower and being told, “No, I’m making potato soup.” “What does that have to do with me borrowing your lawn mower?” the incredulous man replies. “Nothing, but if I don’t want to loan you my lawn mower, one excuse is just as good as another.” Likewise, Governor Palin is not hated because of whatever reasons they offer. These are afterthoughts to an animosity which is embarrassed to admit it was born prior to reason. Hence, refuting them will prove futile.
Second, even those who persist in asserting such reasons as their motive will have to admit that all of them put together still can’t justify the disproportionate vigor of their attacks upon her. To use an aging phrase, this is the politics of personal destruction; a nuclear response to what their own arguments admit is a merely conventional threat.
Third, no one can hate this deeply this quickly. Conservatives generally despise certain political figures such as Bill Clinton, Teddy Kennedy and John Paul Stevens. But it’s taken us years, sometimes decades to detest these people. Similarly for liberals, contempt only begins to describe their feelings toward George W. Bush, Rick Santorum, and Antonin Scalia. But, again, at least such a sentiment has developed over time. It took Sarah Palin less than a week to receive treatment these men have taken years to earn. Such an immediate mauling of someone’s character says far more about the predators than about their prey.
So, what explains this pathology? I have two mutually compatible theories.
Theory 1: The Cult of Personality
Barack Obama is the left’s messiah. Their hopes, their dreams and even their patriotism are at this point invested in him. He cannot be criticized. He cannot be joked about. And he most certainly cannot be mocked. All such response to him (perfectly normal with any other politician) is viewed as blasphemy rather than politics. Not only is the left salvifically invested in him, they secretly fear they have been too rash to the altar call. Calm reflection proves Barack Obama isn’t ready to be president yet, but who can resist the hope beyond hope that he’s more than just a golden voice reading a teleprompter?
So when little Sarah Palin comes along and castigates him with condescending satire, they react as any devastated schoolgirl with a crush would. Her speech stated every major flaw with his candidacy. Not just honestly, but with a Reagenesque comedic flair. And since their deepest fear is that everything she said about him is right, the only option to reconsidering their betrothal was to destroy her.
It’s pretty simple. If we disagree, you correct me. If I am silly, you ignore me. But if I articulate your own fears in attacking something you cherish irrationally, you excoriate me … as cover. As Robert Pirsig explained in his lovely novel on motorcycle maintenance, no one jumps up and down screaming that the sun will rise tomorrow. Highly emotional responses indicate fear and uncertainty, not the opposite.
Sarah Palin’s on-target reductio of Barack Obama turned their messiah into a joke, earning the very predictable treatment a heretic deserves. Disabusing people of a savored fantasy always does.
Theory 2: Her Non-Feminist Feminism
I used to marvel at the rudeness so often publicly shown to parents with many children. But then I saw how the very existence of such families exposes the guilt and self-doubt others feel about their own decisions to stop having children. The surest way to avoid dealing with these stifled concerns is to assault the character or intelligence of parents who dare to expose them with their large families.
So, too with Sarah Palin and the left. Her very life rebukes them.
She has five children, two of them after the age of 40. When her infant son was diagnosed with Down syndrome, she chose life. And when her own daughter was discovered pregnant, she helped her choose life, too. Without ever saying a word about being pro-life (to say it would have been superfluous), she demolished all the common arguments used in favor of abortion and family planning, totemic doctrines of the left.
But it’s more than just doctrine. It’s that so many people on the left have condoned abortions, helped others obtain abortions, or even had abortions themselves in the very same circumstances under which Sarah Palin chose life. Honest people are an affront to liars. Law-abiders are an affront to criminals. And the woman who has made pro-life “choices” is a stinging affront to modern feminism, which has spent decades trying to convince women that an unwanted pregnancy is like a disease and the unborn child something like a parasite.
They must demonize her because her choices so clearly condemn their own. Make no mistake, when your example disproves someone else’s deeply internalized rationalizations, they will try to destroy you. After all, the only other option would be to repent.
Conclusion
In “Beyond Good and Evil,” Nietzsche said, “Anyone who has looked deeply into the world may guess how much wisdom lies in the superficiality of men … let nobody doubt that whoever stands that much in need of the cult of surfaces must at some time have reached beneath them with disastrous results.” His critique of religion so perfectly fits probamaism that one is forced to conclude the latter is but a new flavor of the former.
There may be other pathologies at play here, but these explain both the left’s tsunamic response and why it struck last Thursday morning. It was the speech, stupid.
Probably because SNL is where Sarah Palin belongs. n/m
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Sarah Palin has only to be herself to be disliked. sm
She needs no help from anyone. She, by her own merits and lack thereof, is a despicable unacceptable candidate that insults all women by her having only the genitals in common with us, yet we are expected to say OH JOY, a woman rising to the top. Well not if it's Bush in a skirt "my friends." My fellow Americans, this is BS. No Palin no palin no palin. If we have a woman rise to the top of our government, let it be a woman who votes for equal pay for women, not against it like McCain voted. Let it be a woman who believes in a woman's right over her own body. I could go on and on. You all know the truth. Palin ruined McCain's chances, not that he had a lot. He also hurt himself by putting on that hero cape and flying to Washington to save the economy and looking like a fool.
His grimaces and groans during the debates really hurt him too.
Not to mention his 90 percent agreement with Bushonomics and policies.
Pathetic my friends.
Sarah Palin is great! -and she sure gets under the
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Sarah is not a hypocrite....and if you understood...
socialism you would see the gaping difference. Every person in Alaska gets a check. Including the rich. Alaska is not taxing some citizens at a higher rate to redistribute their wealth to less wealthy Alaskans, even some who do not even pay taxes.
Big difference.
Share the wealth can mean a lot of things. Obama was very clear with Joe the Plumber. He wants to redistribute Joe the Plumber's wealth to other people. He said so. Not eVERY person in America. Just the "people below Joe." THAT is socialism.
See the difference?
Sarah Palin said it. We already addressed this.
That is not socialism. Key words..."Alaskans." Not just poor Alaskans. Not just middle class Alaskans. ALL Alaskans. Not predicated on how much money you make or don't make. Completely fair. She could have funneled all that money into the government to be doled out to whoever she saw fit (like Obama wants to do). Instead, she said EVERY Alaskan gets a piece of the pie. That is so FAR removed from socialism it ain't funny.
Sarah Palin...what a fool!
http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/110208_palin_audio_1-2.mp3
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RU Kidding? Sarah Palin...
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Blame Sarah Palin.
Sarah Palin made her daughter's pregnancy part of her campaign for Vice President. She used all of her children as props, and this is the price they have to pay. Since Sarah Palin would like to impose her personal beliefs on everyone in the United States, her personal life has everything to do with politics!
More Sarah P bashing. Oh, shocking. Worry about
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Sarah Palin seems like a fine person (sm)
and all, but obviously with a candidate as elderly as McCain, if he were a real Republican interested in the strength of our nation, he would have chosen somebody more ready to step into his shoes in case he has a stroke or something. Instead he chose somebody that may be a good person, but won't steal the power limelight from him. Plus I have no doubt he'll enjoy looking at her. Ugh.
You should all apologize to Sarah and Bristol Palin....
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/dailykos-rumors-debunked-here-is-sarah-palin-pregnancy-photo-on-feb-10th-2008/
geezzzz, people.
For the record: Sarah Palin NOT a member of...
Alaska Independent Party.
Alaska Party Official Says Palin Was Not a Member
NYT (Slimes) ^ | 8/2/2008
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:30:43 AM by GVnana
September 2, 2008, 10:32 pm Alaska Party Official Says Palin Was Not a Member By The New York Times
The chairwoman of an Alaskan political party that advocates a vote on the state’s secession from the union said Tuesday that she had been mistaken when she said Gov. Sarah Palin was a member of the group.
A front-page story in The New York Times on Tuesday and articles in other news media reported that Ms. Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party for two years in the 1990’s.
The information in the Times article was based on a statement issued Monday night by Lynette Clark, the party’s chairwoman, who said that Ms. Palin joined the party in 1994 and in 1996 changed her registration to Republican. On Tuesday night, Ms. Clark said that her initial statement was incorrect and had been based on erroneous information provided by another member of the party whom she declined to identify.
The McCain campaign also disputed the Times report, saying that Ms. Palin had been registered consistently as a Republican. After checking the party’s archives, Ms. Clark said that she could find no documentation that Governor Palin had been a member of the party. She said Ms. Palin attended the party’s 1994 and 2006 conventions and provided a video-taped address as governor to the 2008 convention. Ms. Clark said that Ms. Palin’s husband, Todd, was a former member of the party.
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