Sarah is not a hypocrite....and if you understood...
Posted By: sam on 2008-10-29
In Reply to: SP's energy policies demonstrate - 4 important principles....sm
socialism you would see the gaping difference. Every person in Alaska gets a check. Including the rich. Alaska is not taxing some citizens at a higher rate to redistribute their wealth to less wealthy Alaskans, even some who do not even pay taxes.
Big difference.
Share the wealth can mean a lot of things. Obama was very clear with Joe the Plumber. He wants to redistribute Joe the Plumber's wealth to other people. He said so. Not eVERY person in America. Just the "people below Joe." THAT is socialism.
See the difference?
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What a hypocrite you are......
Just because the media did not pull out the incitefu/hateful/vulgar things that were said at Obama's little pitstops doesn't mean they were said. I had several friends who showed up to listen to him at a couple and they said there were very vulgar, hateful, threatening things said in the crowd and they were amazed on their news why the left-wing media didn't pull out those remarks. Didn't hear Obama calling them down either did ya? Pleeeeze.....you've got to do better than that. Just 'cause you don't hear it on your news, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Boy, what a hypocrite you are Mrs. M
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You are a hypocrite!
Out of one side of your mouth, you demand we get behind that MORON who was appointed by the Supreme Court but out of the other side of your mouth, you refuse to get behind President Obama who was elected by a wide margin and which was a total refudiation of Republican policy. Time to get behind our President and Our Country. Love it or Leave It. Stop the Treason!
Rush is the biggest hypocrite EVER
I so agree with you He is such a hypocrite! He can't practice what he preaches. Don't go quoting him on here like he is a reasonable person.
Not only a hypocrite, but a criminal. He took drugs that were not prescribed for him. But if anyone he didn't like did that, he would do a slow roast of their character.
He's a liar and a hypocrite, not the voice of reason.
He either lies, is clues, or is a hypocrite.
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Hypocrite! You talk about pro-lifers forcing their
beliefs on you, but you do the same to us. Sure, a woman can choose to murder her baby or not. The reality is abortion clinics are full of young girls --- NOT WOMEN! Young girls who didn't have sense enough to use a condom or get free BCPs from a clinic. Young girls who thought it made them women just to have sex with a guy. Young girls who are faced with a huge life altering decision and are nowhere near emotionally, chronologically or intellectually prepared to make it.
My daughter, when she becomes a teenager, has an option available to her that I do not want her to have. But you have forced your beliefs on me.
that is what I never understood especially 8 years ago...
the people vote, but rather than what the majority wants there are those who will force themselves as leaders (Bush, remember that entire fiasco?, taking it to the courts and becoming president in an underhanded way) - and then he totally runs this country by his will only, selfishly just everything that he wanted, runs it into the ground, dividing this nation wider than ever in history (perhaps to the point of north/south days), and here is someone else next in line for the same thing? Someone who thinks he is owed the presidency simply because he wants it - not at all caring what the needs for the country are.
Politicians are SERVANTS, they are supposed to serve us, NOT the other way around. How does this keep happening that we are becoming subservient as our rights more and more are being swallowed up by these men (and now woman) who think we are here just for their benefit to live off.
We need some humanity and someone humble in the white house, that is what appeals to me so far about Obama. Say what you will but he is a servant for the people, I actually do believe that he will look after those less fortunate and I would rather him watch my back in a dark alley -
(long) I have never understood...
...how women have been misled into believing this is a "women's issue." This is a HUMAN RIGHTS issue...no pregnant woman I have ever heard of has ever had anything other than a HUMAN BABY at the conclusion of a pregnancy. That is the end result of a pregnancy, and there is no other conclusion EVER, unless a pregnancy is terminated either voluntarily or spontaneously. Human beings have rights under the Constitution of the United States...the right to LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Sort of difficult to get the last two if you are deprived of the first one. This country has laws to protect people from being murdered, from having their lives taken from them by another person. I have never understood why babies (and you can call them fetus, fetal tissue, "product" of a pregnancy, whatever you like, but women are pregnant with BABIES) would not have the same right to live as any other human being. There are important issues that women should be fighting for. The right to equal pay for equal work, the right to be treated as equals with regards to credit and housing and financial situations, the right for protection from domestic violence situations, healthy issues, other social issues. THE RIGHT TO KILL YOUR OWN CHILD SHOULD NOT BE A RIGHT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR. Women should stand together and fight for a common goal. This should NOT be that goal.
I never understood the whole thing
I never actually thought Joe was a plumber. Thought that was just an analogy. All I remember is he asked a legitimate question that all of us wanted to know and Obama stumbled on it realizing afterward that what he said didn't sound too good. Then I hear that he's being investigated and harassed all because he asked a question. I think the opposition using the excuse that he was a "plant" was a bunch of hoo-ah because they had "plants" in the McCain camp. But to have your life destroyed because of this???? I hope Joe wins big time.
I heard EXACTLY what she said and understood her
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His comments were very clearly understood....can you
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Yes, i read, and if I understood you correctly...
CNN was circumventing Obama, which is not surprising, because while they do have a liberal bias, they also have a very CLINTON bias. I was just pointing out that they are not a bastion of integrity.
I don't think he understood or believed a word he said.
And how can I believe him when he has done nothing but lied before? Boy who cried wolf? I s'pose I'm putting my trust, whatever trust is left, in congress. 
I understood Obama's plans
thus my message below. I was simply responding the the wish for socialized medicine that equals that of the wonderful place we call Iraq!
I understood you perfectly....pull out the military....
and what little stability there is will be gone. I cannot see it going any other way. What exactly do you see happening if we pull the military out? Seriously. What will the insurgents do? What will the sunni and shiite militias do? I am serious...what do you think would happen?
My comment was directed at "me" and she understood me...sm
I was hoping everyone would come together, no matter who wins, echoing her thoughts. She understood what I meant.
No offense intended.
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If you watched the actual show you might have understood it
Glenn Beck actually cares about what is going on in this country. He is giving the everyday American a chance to let our voices be heard.
If you go to his website (which I'm sure you wouldn't do) he talks about "Project 9.12". He talks about the 9 principles and 12 values. He's allowing people like you and me a chance to let our voices be heard. The country is going down a dark hole and if it doesn't get fixed we will never see the light again (AIG is just one of the many things that will bring it down).
Unlike whiny Olberlame or Mathpukes. Those two make my skin crawl. I can take Rachel Maddow to a certain extent but then she gets on her whiny role too. Your viewpoint of any other news station other than My Socialist News Butt Channel (MSNBC) is so pathetic in it's writing. If your going to go down the road of blatant money-grubbing, media hogs who pray on the pathetic then you are talking about the liberal media stations. Talk about praying on the pathetic ignor@nt. You want to see hate-spewing turn on the MSNBC crowd. When things don't go their way it's like watching a bunch of rabid dogs foaming at the mouth attaching anyone who doesn't agree with them.
Maybe it would be good to actually watch the Beck show before commenting on it because then you would at least might remotely possibly know what your talking about. Otherwise it looks like another agent of MSNBC is filtering on this board.
I guess you think that having people who are liberal on as guests and treating them with respect, letting them speak what's on their mind and saying. "Okay, I'll give you that. I may not agree with you, but your entitled to your opinions" I guess you consider that hateful spewing??? I don't get it. You go to MSNBC (watched that station through the Bush years because my viewpoints were more aligned with theirs), but after awhile you just gotta step back and say wait a minute, that's not fair no matter whether I don't like the other side or not. There is a time when you have to start thinking for yourself. Fox channel does that. They present issues and don't tell you how you should be thinking. They let you decide for yourself. They give both sides an equal chance. But if your one of those liberal loving all democrats do nothing wrong and all republicans do nothing right, and you only get your news from the liberal stations, then yes, what you wrote is true about the "pathetic uneducated half-wits that hang on every word of their hateful spewing garbage" by Mathpukes and Olberlame and the likes of that station.
In case you don't know, America is waking up and turning to Fox and turning off MSNBC, CNN and others because we want to hear the truth. Not the mean-spiritic spew that comes from those stations.
BTW - Fox has 1,217,000 viewers compared to the socialist MSNBC station of 480,000 and Communist News Network of 633,000. That's more than twice as many people. At least I feel like I'm in good company.
I understood her post perfectly - 4 years in 4 minutes
What part of that don't you understand. Pretty simple to figure out.
Sarah Palin makes Sarah Palin look stupid!
The Democrats did not make Sarah Palin look stupid. Sarah Palin does a fine job of looking stupid without help from anyone. All she has to do is open her mouth!
is that you Sarah?
Finished with your good friend "Charlie" already and now here to share your words of wisdom?
Go Sarah!!!! ....sm
If SNL is spoofing her, they must think she's a major contender.
Yippee.....
By the way, I haven't seen SNL since the early years, is it any good anymore? Have they spoofed Obama yet?
Or are they giving him a walk, as most liberal type show/media things are doing?
(I can't play this, as my flash player is old....oh well....I'm sure it was funny, in a derogatory type of way, if you ladies enjoyed it that much.....)
let Sarah
take his place in debate with Barack Obama.
Let Sarah be Sarah....sm
She's the bright ray of hope in this election. She's the one REAL person out there on either ticket.
If they just let Sarah be Sarah, she will just bowl over Joe Biden tomorrow night.
I bet she will too.
She's got the most common sense, and right now, we need someone who is just like us, representing us, in Washington.
I'd vote for her over McCain in a second....wish like heck she was at the top of the ticket, because she is, the real deal. No doubt in my mind whatsoever.
You mean like Sarah in the
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So Sarah will have a son-in-law...
...and a mother-out-law.
John McCain can't even bring himself to endorse her now, which I think is the funniest thing of all.
thanks Sarah
real patriotic idears you keep regurgitating to keep your name in the news.
Yes, and I believe Sarah is a least a US citizen.
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Sarah Palin
Sarah Palin has just announced her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant and will be marrying the baby's father!
Sarah Palin was asking because
the voters were concerned about the language in some of them and felt it inappropriate for their children. This was to help keep bad language away from children. Not get rid of them because a certain race, nationality, etc. wrote them. The Nazis burned books written by Jews. This is entirely different.
As for my supposed untruth about Obama being Muslim at one time:
Obama's Kenyan birth father: In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.
Obama's Indonesian family: His stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."
The Catholic school: Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press reports that "documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim" while at a Catholic school during first through third grades. Kim Barker of the Chicago Tribune confirms that Obama was "listed as a Muslim on the registration form for the Catholic school."
Koran class: In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies, thereby revealing he was a Muslim, for Indonesian students in his day attended religious classes according to their faith.
Mosque attendance: Obama's half-sister recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events." Watson learned from childhood friends that "Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." Barker found that "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." One Indonesia friend, Zulfin Adi, states that Obama "was Muslim. He went to the mosque. I remember him wearing a sarong" (a garment associated with Muslims).
This along with his association with sketchy people including Ayers and his 20-year attendance to a church that promotes hates messages.....I feel I am justly right to be concerned about Obama and have reason to not trust him one iota.
Cool....go Sarah!!! sm
http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-and-charlie-gibson.html
Go Sarah and Joe!!! Go McCain...All the way to the
Go ahead and call 'em gimmicks if y'all want.
They're the real deal, and a lot of real Americans embrace them.
Sarah Palin says:
“And that’s cruel and it’s mean-spirited, it’s immature, it’s unprofessional, and those guys are jerks, if they came away with it taking things out of context and then tried to spread something on national news. It is not fair and not right.” Hmmm...
Who is Sarah and what are idears
My actual name is Mary. I have never used Mary and the last time I posted something on this board was the middle of December. Think around the 15th or 16th when I replied to someone, and the last time I wrote an original message was the beginning of December. It would serve you well to think before you acuse someone of something.
You don't like my post, fine, that's one thing. But to acuse someone of doing whatever it is your acusing me of, well that's just a bit arrogant on your part. Your reply was a bit confusing too. Were you cutting me down because you don't like that I don't use my real name (never have and never will - get over it) or you didn't like my idea. And if I wanted to keep my name in the news, wouldn't I be posting with same name over and over and over.
I particularly like the idea of the US dividing into separate countries. Especially with a lot of the posters on this board. I've never seen so many people who are willing to destroy our country and everything our country was founded upon and I would prefer not to live in the same country as they do without actually having to move. I don't agree in socialism. They do. Therefore by keeping their president and his socialistic viewpoints they can have him, love him, worship him, and dance around in circles every day while he's in office. I'd rather have a president that shares the same values as a lot of people like me do.
So...back to my original idea. It would serve you well not to assume things from now on, as you know what they say about people who assume.
Who is Sarah and what are idears
My actual name is Mary. I have never used Mary and the last time I posted something on this board was the middle of December. Think around the 15th or 16th when I replied to someone, and the last time I wrote an original message was the beginning of December. It would serve you well to think before you acuse someone of something.
You don't like my post, fine, that's one thing. But to acuse someone of doing whatever it is your acusing me of, well that's just a bit arrogant on your part. Your reply was a bit confusing too. Were you cutting me down because you don't like that I don't use my real name (never have and never will - get over it) or you didn't like my idea. And if I wanted to keep my name in the news, wouldn't I be posting with same name over and over and over.
I particularly like the idea of the US dividing into separate countries. Especially with a lot of the posters on this board. I've never seen so many people who are willing to destroy our country and everything our country was founded upon and I would prefer not to live in the same country as they do without actually having to move. I don't agree in socialism. They do. Therefore by keeping their president and his socialistic viewpoints they can have him, love him, worship him, and dance around in circles every day while he's in office. I'd rather have a president that shares the same values as a lot of people like me do.
So...back to my original idea. It would serve you well not to assume things from now on, as you know what they say about people who assume.
Does this mean Sarah gets another raise?...LOL
*Unlike President George W. Bush, who threatened to veto the two bills when they came up in the last session of Congress, President-elect Barack Obama has embraced them.*
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090109/ap_on_go_co/pay_equity
I can't wait to see who all opposes this bill. I hope they plaster them all over the news.
Sarah was pointed out....(sm)
because a) it was funny; b) she is a female; and c) she herself just got a raise (by a committee she formed for just that purpose) just since the election while Alaska is taking a big hit financially because the price of oil went down.
Sarah is still campaigning...(sm)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/28/sarah-palin-political-action-committee
I soooo hope she runs in 2012. How about Rush/Palin 2012.....ROFL....
So what if Sarah complains, BB.
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One more reason I like Sarah Palin....
....I betcha she makes a mean batch of cookies...
(and I won't say who doesn't, but I'm sure you all know)
I just read that Sarah Palin sm
sued Bush, etc., over making the Polar bears endangered species because it will hurt oil drilling. Has anyone else heard or read this? (Maybe it is old news and has been discussed here. I have been out of town and thankfully aware from my computer for the last day and a half.) If this is true than I am appalled. I guess she is not so new the whole for big oil thing and all. Most hunters and fishermen that I know want to help protect the environment.
I know she is anti-abortion, but did not know until just recently that she is also anti-abortion for cases of rape and incest. I think that is very extreme. Though, to be quite honest, I do think in most rape cases you are given the morning after pill.
The more I read and learn, the less I am liking. I was kind of excited at first.
If it is so important, where was it before Sarah Palin...
entered the race? Come on. You are trying to somehow add validity to making a 17-year-old political fodder. Now, after the cat is out of the bag, the political spin is being put on it. Go ahead and put the focus there...no one is going to be fooled by this. People who engage it in are still going to look like what they are.
Sarah Palin is gold!!!!!!!
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Savaging Sarah Palin...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20080903/cm_uc_crbbox/op_237245
Fine, put Sarah in his place. She has more
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You would think Sarah Palin is running for the top
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Why do they hate Sarah Palin so?........sm
Hi there. Very thoughtful and intelligent questions you're asking. I'm going to post the following column I found, that explains this phenomenon very clearly, I think.
http://townhall.com/columnists/AndrewTallman/2008/09/09/why_do_they_hate_sarah_palin_so?page=full&comments=true
Why do they hate Sarah Palin so?
by Andrew Tallman
I assume it is unnecessary to answer the logically prior question of whether or not they hate Sarah Palin. The level of vitriol flung at her over the past week and a half by critics in every liberal outlet ranging from The New York Times to Air America is particularly awe-inspiring given that this is all the longer they’ve even known her name. Ordinarily, such hatred takes years to cultivate. The force and acceleration of their vehemence virtually demands psychoanalysis. Since this sport is in vogue, I’ll give my diagnostic skills a shot at the trophy.
Preface: There Is a Pathology
The natural first reaction of a Palin-hater to this column is to deny the hatred. They will say it’s her politics, her religion, or possibly the whiff of scandal some have managed to ladle upon her. But if they’re honest with themselves, they’ll have to admit three simple facts.
First, the reasons they give aren’t the reasons they hate. If they didn’t have these, they’d manufacture others. There’s an old story about a man asking to borrow his neighbor’s lawn mower and being told, “No, I’m making potato soup.” “What does that have to do with me borrowing your lawn mower?” the incredulous man replies. “Nothing, but if I don’t want to loan you my lawn mower, one excuse is just as good as another.” Likewise, Governor Palin is not hated because of whatever reasons they offer. These are afterthoughts to an animosity which is embarrassed to admit it was born prior to reason. Hence, refuting them will prove futile.
Second, even those who persist in asserting such reasons as their motive will have to admit that all of them put together still can’t justify the disproportionate vigor of their attacks upon her. To use an aging phrase, this is the politics of personal destruction; a nuclear response to what their own arguments admit is a merely conventional threat.
Third, no one can hate this deeply this quickly. Conservatives generally despise certain political figures such as Bill Clinton, Teddy Kennedy and John Paul Stevens. But it’s taken us years, sometimes decades to detest these people. Similarly for liberals, contempt only begins to describe their feelings toward George W. Bush, Rick Santorum, and Antonin Scalia. But, again, at least such a sentiment has developed over time. It took Sarah Palin less than a week to receive treatment these men have taken years to earn. Such an immediate mauling of someone’s character says far more about the predators than about their prey.
So, what explains this pathology? I have two mutually compatible theories.
Theory 1: The Cult of Personality
Barack Obama is the left’s messiah. Their hopes, their dreams and even their patriotism are at this point invested in him. He cannot be criticized. He cannot be joked about. And he most certainly cannot be mocked. All such response to him (perfectly normal with any other politician) is viewed as blasphemy rather than politics. Not only is the left salvifically invested in him, they secretly fear they have been too rash to the altar call. Calm reflection proves Barack Obama isn’t ready to be president yet, but who can resist the hope beyond hope that he’s more than just a golden voice reading a teleprompter?
So when little Sarah Palin comes along and castigates him with condescending satire, they react as any devastated schoolgirl with a crush would. Her speech stated every major flaw with his candidacy. Not just honestly, but with a Reagenesque comedic flair. And since their deepest fear is that everything she said about him is right, the only option to reconsidering their betrothal was to destroy her.
It’s pretty simple. If we disagree, you correct me. If I am silly, you ignore me. But if I articulate your own fears in attacking something you cherish irrationally, you excoriate me … as cover. As Robert Pirsig explained in his lovely novel on motorcycle maintenance, no one jumps up and down screaming that the sun will rise tomorrow. Highly emotional responses indicate fear and uncertainty, not the opposite.
Sarah Palin’s on-target reductio of Barack Obama turned their messiah into a joke, earning the very predictable treatment a heretic deserves. Disabusing people of a savored fantasy always does.
Theory 2: Her Non-Feminist Feminism
I used to marvel at the rudeness so often publicly shown to parents with many children. But then I saw how the very existence of such families exposes the guilt and self-doubt others feel about their own decisions to stop having children. The surest way to avoid dealing with these stifled concerns is to assault the character or intelligence of parents who dare to expose them with their large families.
So, too with Sarah Palin and the left. Her very life rebukes them.
She has five children, two of them after the age of 40. When her infant son was diagnosed with Down syndrome, she chose life. And when her own daughter was discovered pregnant, she helped her choose life, too. Without ever saying a word about being pro-life (to say it would have been superfluous), she demolished all the common arguments used in favor of abortion and family planning, totemic doctrines of the left.
But it’s more than just doctrine. It’s that so many people on the left have condoned abortions, helped others obtain abortions, or even had abortions themselves in the very same circumstances under which Sarah Palin chose life. Honest people are an affront to liars. Law-abiders are an affront to criminals. And the woman who has made pro-life “choices” is a stinging affront to modern feminism, which has spent decades trying to convince women that an unwanted pregnancy is like a disease and the unborn child something like a parasite.
They must demonize her because her choices so clearly condemn their own. Make no mistake, when your example disproves someone else’s deeply internalized rationalizations, they will try to destroy you. After all, the only other option would be to repent.
Conclusion
In “Beyond Good and Evil,” Nietzsche said, “Anyone who has looked deeply into the world may guess how much wisdom lies in the superficiality of men … let nobody doubt that whoever stands that much in need of the cult of surfaces must at some time have reached beneath them with disastrous results.” His critique of religion so perfectly fits probamaism that one is forced to conclude the latter is but a new flavor of the former.
There may be other pathologies at play here, but these explain both the left’s tsunamic response and why it struck last Thursday morning. It was the speech, stupid.
Probably because SNL is where Sarah Palin belongs. n/m
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Sarah Palin has only to be herself to be disliked. sm
She needs no help from anyone. She, by her own merits and lack thereof, is a despicable unacceptable candidate that insults all women by her having only the genitals in common with us, yet we are expected to say OH JOY, a woman rising to the top. Well not if it's Bush in a skirt "my friends." My fellow Americans, this is BS. No Palin no palin no palin. If we have a woman rise to the top of our government, let it be a woman who votes for equal pay for women, not against it like McCain voted. Let it be a woman who believes in a woman's right over her own body. I could go on and on. You all know the truth. Palin ruined McCain's chances, not that he had a lot. He also hurt himself by putting on that hero cape and flying to Washington to save the economy and looking like a fool.
His grimaces and groans during the debates really hurt him too.
Not to mention his 90 percent agreement with Bushonomics and policies.
Pathetic my friends.
Sarah Palin is great! -and she sure gets under the
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Sarah Palin said it. We already addressed this.
That is not socialism. Key words..."Alaskans." Not just poor Alaskans. Not just middle class Alaskans. ALL Alaskans. Not predicated on how much money you make or don't make. Completely fair. She could have funneled all that money into the government to be doled out to whoever she saw fit (like Obama wants to do). Instead, she said EVERY Alaskan gets a piece of the pie. That is so FAR removed from socialism it ain't funny.
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