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So you don't care if Obama is elected only by

Posted By: sm on 2008-10-09
In Reply to: Truly amazing the lengths pubs go to - to avoid the nation's #1 issue. sm

voters who don't actually exist......including illegals?


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As I am sure if Obama is elected....
as the babies mount up dying in the closets of hospitals and we turn into a socialist state I will be very, very ill as well...but my conscience will be clear.
How is Obama getting elected ...sm
saying the majority of Americans don't put the country first?
Obama said what he had to to get elected. Now
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When Obama was elected

those who supported the opposition and who warned of the types of sweeping changes to come during his presidency were told not to jump to conclusions based on what he had said during the campaign, or with whom he had chosen to associate throughout his life but to ''give him a chance'' to show the American people what he would actually do.  We were told that racial prejudice and sour grapes were behind our feelings and that Obama would prove himself worthy of the office.  To me, in just four months he has proven the exact opposite and further demonstrated a lack of character. 


I did not necessarily want McCain in office.  I voted the ''NObama'' ticket because I felt McCain would be slightly less destructive to our country and because I was pretty sure he is not a marxist. Voting third party would have been a wasted vote.


Sure, had McCain been elected I would have told his opposition to give him a chance to prove his worth as well. (I believe McCain's character has already been proven; I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong.)   But if he then demonstrated himself, through his words and actions, to be a screwup and/or a liar I would be posting exactly the same type of opinion. 


LOL....better hurry because if Obama gets elected...
he will be after your moose gun. lol.
That is really funny.......Obama got elected
BECAUSE so many who voted for him really didn't listen to anything from anybody. Those on the street made fools of themselves by not even knowing anything about him, who his running mate was, or what his policies were........ yea, they didn't listen alright.....ignorant all the way to the bank to cash that free paycheck!
If Obama gets elected, then it was meant to be! Go, Obama!
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Do you know what will happen if Obama is elected as prez? sm
It will be an Obamanation! Or an abomination..You choose. 
I hope you hold him to it if he gets elected. If Obama...sm
get elected, and I hope he does, I will hold his feet to the fire and make sure he lives up to his promises.
The only good thing about Obama being elected
would be that in four years, we can vote him back out. I'm with you, sm, less government, less government spending.
Media Malpractice...How Obama got elected....sm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8


http://howobamagotelected.com/

"Promote then as an object of primary importance, Institutions for the general diffusion of knowledge. In proportion as the structure of a government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public opinion should be enlightened."

George Washington, Farewell Address, September 19, 1796



On November 4th, 2008 millions of Americans were shocked that a man of Barack Obama's limited experience, extreme liberal positions and radical political alliances could be elected President of the United States. For many of these Americans, the explanation was rather simple... the news media, completely enamored with Obama, simply refused to do their job.

On Election day twelve Obama voters were interviewed extensively right after they voted to learn how the news media impacted their knowledge of what occurred during the campaign. These voters were chosen for their apparent intelligence/verbal abilities and willingness to express their opinions to a large audience. The rather shocking video below seeks to provide some insight into which information broke through the news media clutter and which did not.

All of this was conducted for a forthcoming documentary on how the news media impacted the 2008 election. Please get on our mailing list and return to this website in the coming months for more information on the film, "Media Malpractice... How Obama Got Elected"






Because obviously interviewing a relative handful of Obama voters, while interesting, is hardly scientific proof of anything, we also commissioned a Zogby telephone poll which asked the very same questions (as well as a few others) with similarly amazing results.

Zogby Poll

512 Obama Voters 11/13/08-11/15/08 MOE +/- 4.4 points

97.1% High School Graduate or higher, 55% College Graduates

Results to 12 simple Multiple Choice Questions

57.4% could NOT correctly say which party controls congress (50/50 shot just by guessing)

81.8% could NOT correctly say Joe Biden quit a previous campaign because of plagiarism (25% chance by guessing)

82.6% could NOT correctly say that Barack Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot (25% chance by guessing)

88.4% could NOT correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket (25% chance by guessing)

56.1% could NOT correctly say Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground (25% chance by guessing).

And yet.....

Only 13.7% failed to identify Sarah Palin as the person on which their party spent $150,000 in clothes

Only 6.2% failed to identify Palin as the one with a pregnant teenage daughter

And 86.9 % thought that Palin said that she could see Russia from her "house," even though that was Tina Fey who said that!!

Only 2.4% got at least 11 correct.

Only .5% got all of them correct. (And we "gave" one answer that was technically not Palin, but actually Tina Fey)

Yeah, that is how Obama got elected. ACORN

NM for you.


Obama/Biden ticket wins, more dems elected to congress...sm
and something will FINALLY get done.
Obama and health care.
Listen,

It is human nature to be scared of of something different, People will remain in jobs while their wages sink, afraid that things could be worse if they leave.

There are reasons this time around that the AMA, the American Cancer Society and namy other prominant organizations are encouraging a single payer system, the reason being that the current system in in a shambles, and serving less and less. The premiums are exhorbitant not only for individuals but businesses as well, the current system is severely crippling job grown, and as an aside if one is so fortunate as to have health insurance, well over 70% of legitimate claims are being denied routinely.

When things get to that point, and they have, it is better to swallow the fear and make some changes when the current system is in a complete shambles. The benefits far outway the fear of making changes to a severely flawed system.
Don't know, don't care. Obama for PREZ!! nm
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Obama lovers do not care
They want Obama in office even if he has to buy his way in there and buy votes to boot. They know about the voter fraud going on but do not want to hear about it. They know their candidate is paying a corrupt racist organization that has already had indicted members to buy his votes into office.
Yeah, I don't care for Obama, but I am not "proud"
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Obama says you can keep your employer health care....
but if you don't have, the government will step in. Under his tax proposals, how long do you think business will be able to afford health care for employees? Not very darned long. So, in the end, he gets what he wants...government controlled health care. He has changed the way he described it to try to end around the socialism tag of universal health care. Nice try, but no cigar. He is not fooling me. But, I don't take every word that falls out of his mouth as gospel like some do either (and I am not singling you out specifically).
I dont care who votes for Obama. I never could in
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Obama and his supporters dont care. as long as
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Obama did not vote to deny a baby care -
Obama clearly stated there was already a law on the books in Illinois that covered this topic and there did not need to be another one.  Do you not understand that?
Obama's top three health care campaign lies




By Phil Kerpen


Lie Number 1: I Won’t Tax Your Health Benefits


What Obama said on the campaign trail (Newport News, Va., October 4, 2008):


“So here’s John McCain’s radical plan in a nutshell: he taxes health care benefits for the first time in history… Well, I don’t think that’s right.”


What Obama says now:


Obama ally Sen. Max Baucus told the Washington Post that Obama is now willing to tax employer-provided health benefits. Baucus said: “Yeah, it’s something that he might consider. That was discussed. It’s on the table.”


Limiting or ending the tax-free status of health benefits makes sense if it’s used to cut other taxes and put all health insurance—employer-provided or not—on a level playing field. The existing benefit is an artifact of World War II-era price controls and creates a tax penalty for people who buy their own insurance.



But unlike the McCain plan, which would have taxed employer-provided health benefits and used the money to pay for a new health care tax credit, the plan now being considered by Democrats, including Obama, would tax employer-health benefits to fund increased government health care spending. For the 250 million-plus Americans who already have health insurance, this is a raw deal—they pay more taxes and get nothing in return.


Lie Number 2: I Won’t Force You to Buy Health Insurance


What Obama said on the campaign trail (Janesville, Wis., February 13, 2008):


“The main difference between my plan and Senator Clinton’s plan is that she’d require the government to force you to buy health insurance and she said she’d ‘go after’ your wages if you don’t.”


What Obama says now:


President Obama sent a letter to Democratic Senators Ted Kennedy and Max Baucus yesterday that says—using the new code word “responsibility” to refer to the same kind of mandate he slammed in Hillary’s plan:


“I understand the Committees are moving towards a principle of shared responsibility — making every American responsible for having health insurance coverage, and asking that employers share in the cost. I share the goal of ending lapses and gaps in coverage that make us less healthy and drive up everyone’s costs, and I am open to your ideas on shared responsibility.”


While President Obama did say he would like a waiver process in hardship cases, there is no reason to have a mandate other than to force people to buy insurance who don’t want to, mostly young people who are healthy and want to spend their limited income on their young careers and families. According to the Census Bureau, about 60 percent of the uninsured are under age 35, with the highest rates in the 18-24 bracket (28.1 percent uninsured) and the 25-34 (25.7 percent uninsured) bracket. This is about forcing some people who don’t want health insurance to pay for other people through a new government program. It’s more spreading the wealth around.


President Obama is poised to accept this provision for the same reason Sen. Clinton proposed it—to buy off insurance companies. Democrats learned a lesson from the 1993 HillaryCare fight when the insurance companies stopped a Washington health care takeover. The mandate is a giveaway to insurance companies to buy their support this time by forcing healthy young people who use less health care to pay insurance premiums.


Lie Number 3: If You Aren’t Rich, I Won’t Raise Your Taxes


What Obama said on the campaign trail (September 12, 2008, Dover, N.H.):


“I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.”


What Obama says now:


Well, it’s hard to keep up because new ideas are floated every day, but they all would involve taxing people who make less than $250,000. In fact, even his income tax hikes for the rich have now been dropped down to start at $235,000. Then there’s the soft drink excise tax, the cap-and-trade energy taxes, and most recently the VAT, a form of national sales tax. And of course the tax on health benefits I mentioned above would also break the only-tax-the-rich pledge.


What all these proposals have in common: we all pay, big-time, likely trillions of dollars in higher taxes for “free” government health care. In fact, that’s probably the biggest lie of all—that government health care is free.


Universal health care and President Obama's real plan -

I see again that everyone is talking about President Obama's plan for universal health care and I once again feel the need to distinguish between universal health care and what the plan is that President Obama has campaigned for.  I have copied and pasted part of the web page, but also included the link at the bottom of this for you to see the whole plan. 


President Obama does not ask for universal health care where the government is in charge - he just wants the government to ensure that everyone has access to medical care and health insurance.  Why is it so difficult to understand that this is not socialized medicine, government run healthcare, or universal coverage plans?


Barack Obama and Joe Biden's Plan


On health care reform, the American people are too often offered two extremes - government-run health care with higher taxes or letting the insurance companies operate without rules. Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe both of these extremes are wrong, and that’s why they’ve proposed a plan that strengthens employer coverage, makes insurance companies accountable and ensures patient choice of doctor and care without government interference.


The Obama-Biden plan provides affordable, accessible health care for all Americans, builds on the existing health care system, and uses existing providers, doctors and plans to implement the plan. Under the Obama-Biden plan, patients will be able to make health care decisions with their doctors, instead of being blocked by insurance company bureaucrats.


Under the plan, if you like your current health insurance, nothing changes, except your costs will go down by as much as $2,500 per year.


If you don’t have health insurance, you will have a choice of new, affordable health insurance options.


http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/


who could possibly care? War, financial ruin, health care needs.

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If she is elected
What I meant is I will vote in the election but if she wins I will dis-own this country after that. If she gets in it will confirm my beliefs that the people's votes do not count. It's already starting to turn out that way. Clearly Obama is ahead right now, but I am hearing talks of the delegates deciding at the convention who will be the candidate no matter who is ahead. How fair is that??? If he is ahead by the people and the delegates how can the super delegates (who happen to all be on Hillary's side) come in and wipe out all the votes and delegate votes already casted.
Cya. And if they are elected I will still be here...
holding their feet to the fire, with my "Don't Blame Me I Didn't Vote for Them" sticker, and ready with the I told you so's. Y'all come back now...hear?

Must be so empowering to be so smug. Women who are thoughtful and intelligent...who attack another woman (Palin) like snarling dogs but would not attack one of their own? Yeah, loaded with class you thoughtful and intelligent women are. Please. Your actions bely your words.
So, if he is elected -
who is going to be running the country? If he wants to be my candidate, he needs to step up and let us see what he is made of and not let #2 take his spot. I have not yet seen a VP up front in all my years voting as I have seen with this ticket. We should be focusing on the the Presidential candidate and not the VP. I can still be swayed but I am leaning towards the Obama ticket. I need to see a strong presidential candidate - not a strong vice presidential candidate.
I already have next-to-none. If he's elected, at least
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Exactly! It's man's will that O was elected, not God's.
And it is precisely for that reason this country will suffer greatly.  Mankind has been putting their human will before the will of God for centuries and this world will not be left to stand much longer because of it.  THAT is God's will.  And those of us who understand this are safe and secure.
We (as in probably not you) elected him....(sm)

as far as foreign affairs go to restore credibility to the US...and that's what he's doing.  -- As opposed to the shrub method of trying to bully the world.  Get a grip and try to catch up with the rest of us.


She's not even ready to be elected

That's how W got elected! U mean that was illegal! Huh!
Can't imagine the pubs doing anything illegal.,,,,,,,
All politicians lie to get elected.

We are all fooling ourselves if we thing otherwise.  It is literally picking the lesser of two evils.  The one thing that I can say is that at least McCain makes decisions.  He votes instead of just voting present like Obama and when Obama actually has voted yes or no.....he has consistently said one thing and voted the exact opposite.  I just do not think he has the experience or the ability to make executive decisions.  I do not trust his associations and I do not have the same values as he does. 


If McCain were elected and were to die, she would be...sm
a puppet president with the strings being pulled by the extreme religious right wing. That is why he was under pressure to appoint her. Now they will support McCain, tit for tat.

My advice would have been to have Colin Powell as a running mate, if he would even agree to do so, and to run on proper state of the art care for the injured troops coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan. I think that people would be able to swallow the war if they knew we didn't forget about the vets when they came home.
Could be that if O is elected, those nations
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Quite evident, you elected the man who
your guns and your bibles and reelected the man who called you racist rednecks.
LOL! How did that woman get elected
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I doubt he will be elected again.......... sm
because I doubt there will even be an election in 2012. At the rate things are going now, I can well imagine Obama invoking martial law prior to the election and making himself into a dictator. Chavez would be so proud.
The Bush was not elected song is getting old.
To truly prove you are not bitter, try not mentionig it again. It seems the left has enough problems with Bush without bringing that up.  JFK was not legally elected either.  Historians now know that Illinois was bought for him by papa.  Life goes on. But the bitterness of carrying around a load of rage just never seems to leave.
Once either one is elected we are pretty much powerless...
to hold anyone's feet to the fire. However, the Obama adoring masses here will make excuses no matter how many mistakes he makes or how many promises he does not fulfill. Toe that party line. If you criticize him for not doing what he said he would do, you will be a lonely voice of one I'm afraid.

Yes, I will be watching McCain/Palin to see if they keep campaign promises. Because if someone does not find a way to work in a bipartisan manner, both parties are going to continue messing us over and doing what is best for their pocketbooks and political careers. They need to forget party after the election and get about the people's business. And only one candidate has said right up front he will be on them to make them do that. That is why I am voting for him.

From a national security standpoint, I think Obama is a huge, huge mistake.

That being said...yes, I will be watching.
you won't have any $ left if this commie gets elected. nm

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McCain is not 80. He would be if elected 2 terms (nm)
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I might have to if your man gets elected. Maybe we'll be co workers nm
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Difference being if elected, SP will be in a position to
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I am not fearful. I am resigned....he was elected.
And he is NOT "my" President yet, just like Bush was not yours. Let's be real here.

I understand that you think socialism will work. I understand that HE thinks socialism will work. Just like Che Guevara thought socialism would work, which is why he participated in the revolution which turned Cuba socialist. When he realized that it was NOT what he thought it would be, he moved on to Bolivia to participate in another revolution. The people of Venezuela have realized that all socialism got them was Hugo Chavez.

As I said, we will see how far Obama wants to go with it. The saving grace is that the senate did not get the filibuster-proof majority they wanted, so that in and of itself may rein in his socialist ambitions.

Will just have to wait and see.
O was elected the future president, so....sm
the only thing that we can do NOW is sit back and WAIT for O's actions.

But give him ROOM FOR ACTION, without criticizing every little decision.

You know, he IS the future president, time to accept it and, as Kaydie's father states, to adapt to it.
had McCain been elected, then you would be in a trance...nm
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Hamas was democratically elected by
the Palestinian National Authority and has won many local elections in Gaza, Qalqila and Nablus. The hold 72 of the 136 seats in the Palestinian Parliament, having unseated the former Fatah ruling party. Apparently, the Palestinian people do not agree with O.

He will have quite a dilemma on his hands reconciling this rhetoric with what democracy looks like in the Middle East, so let the games begin.
Nah, Bush was the first illegally elected.
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If they had been elected, absolutely they would be my President -
I am a citizen of the United States of America, thus the elected President is my President! I don't get to say just because I do not like him he is not my President. He is the leader of the country that I love whether I like him/her or support him/her or not.
Had dog catcher been an elected position

I'm sure she would have run for it.  Well, she's ''moved on up to the big house'' now.  She is a co-sponsor of Card Check and a real party hack.  This is my representative.  Abandon all hope!