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Obama lovers do not care

Posted By: only one thing matters on 2008-10-11
In Reply to: Obama gave ACORN 800 THOUSAND dollars - also a FRAUD!. nm

They want Obama in office even if he has to buy his way in there and buy votes to boot. They know about the voter fraud going on but do not want to hear about it. They know their candidate is paying a corrupt racist organization that has already had indicted members to buy his votes into office.


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Oh Obama lovers....it just keeps getting

This just coming out.........former Obama staffer (while working with Obama) now coming out that he sat in a meeting with an Islamic organization in Virginia back in September, in which Mr. Asbahi was present, Obama's liason.  Now that man alone has a very close relationship with Islamic organizations and it just keeps getting deeper.  This Islamic organization has ties with terrorists organizations to include CAIR who was also listed as a coconspirator in terror related groups. 


It just keeps getting more interesting.  For those that doesn't know who Asbahi is, you need to keep your eyes wide open.  Obama is knee deep involved with Muslim and Islamic organizations, even though he has made a point of using his liasons, who are mostly Muslim, to do so now that he is running for President.  


http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/3557


 


Wonder what these Obama lovers will do once he
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But Obama lovers don't want to talk about the
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For all those Obama/Biden lovers.....this bears
Biden's years up there mean nothing to me. The longer you stay, the more jaded and entrenched you become in the very crap we are trying to get outselves out of now, with the exception of a few who have never changed their stance. Years of service do not necessariy equate to good deeds....ya gotta do better than that. The man is so wishy washy on his votes, he'll fly whatever way the wind blows him, which is why he is now running with Obama. Anyhooooo....

He stood shoulder to shoulder with Obama while running for presidential candidacy and said when asked what he thought about Obama....

"I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training" AND......

"If the Democrats think we're going to be able to nominate someone who can win without that person being able to table unimpeachable credentials on national security and foreign policy, I think we're making a tragic mistake..."

Biden has denounced Obama's poor foreign policy "judgement" over and over and over and in his own words said that "Americans are quickly realizing -- that Barack Obama is not ready to be President."

He said Obama was not ready to serve as President. Better yet, let me just list the reasons why Biden is a patsy....

About Obama he said, "Having Talking Points On Foreign Policy Doesn't Get You There."

On Obama's voting against funding for US Troops overseas he said,
"If you tell me I've got to take away this protection for these kids in order to win the election, some things aren't worth it. Some things are worth losing over. That would be worth losing over. Hundreds of lives are being saved and will be saved by us sending these vehicles over which we are funding with this supplemental legislation. And I want to ask any of my other colleagues, would they, in fact, vote to cut off the money for those troops to protect them? That's the right question. This isn't cutting off the war. This is cutting off support that will save the lives of thousands of American troops."

On Obama's leadership in Iraq he said.....
"I Don't Recall Hearing A Word From Barack About A Plan Or A Tactic."

Biden on whether he would meet unconditionally with leaders of rogue states as Obama said he would.....
"Absolutely Positively No." Biden: "Would I make a blanket commitment to meet unconditionally with the leaders of each of those countries within the first year I was elected president? Absolutely positively no."

Oh, AND IT GETS EVEN BETTER......There's his undying love for John McCain, "God love 'em".
Biden has called McCain a personal hero and proclaimed that he would run on a McCain ticket. He has praised McCain’s stances on climate change and troop levels in Iraq. He acknowledged that McCain’s approach to foreign policy differs from President Bush’s — everything that flies in the face of lines of attack that Obama has been pushing against McCain. Remember he said he would be "honored to run against him or with him".(meaning McCain).

Now, here he stands alongside the very guy he can't stand. And you think this is an upstanding God fearing lover of his country? This man is no different than Obama; he'll do whatever is necessary to get his foot in the door for an upcoming Presidency, even if that means acceping a VP position from a guy he can't stand, doesn't agree on anything with, and likes his opposition better. Yea, what a deal we got there!!!!!

Your turn....

Don't ya love the silence of the Obama lovers?
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Get off your Obama lovers wagon for two seconds
This has absolutely nothing to do with what party you belong to; it has EVERYTHING to do with your government targeting individuals as "terrorists" simply because they are uprising against their government and saying ENOUGH! This includes democrats as well!

When you see a file put out by your government specifically stating "conservative extremism", what part of that did you overlook? This has only come about since the tea party demonstrations have come about and with the government realizing millions of people are really and truly FED UP with their crap and taxing us into complete submission to the government. I couldn't care less what others think on here and there is no false assumptions made by me.

The writing is in black and white for those that care to read it. There is no assumption by what "conservative extremism" means and for those that don't live in LA la land, they too know exactly what this is.... an absolute violation of American civil rights. This opens the doors for government to turn lose police, national guard, and whatever else THEY deem necessary to shut up those that do not agree with them.

What about protesting do you have a problem with?

This hate Obama jag you're on tells a lot about you. You don't realize this has to do with your government, regardless who is at the helm, which in this case happens to be Obama. If it were Bush, I would be raising cane as well. Government is government, only this time we have someone on a power trip really going full force on running down our rights....


Get off your Obama lovers wagon for two seconds
This has absolutely nothing to do with what party you belong to; it has EVERYTHING to do with your government targeting individuals as "terrorists" simply because they are uprising against their government and saying ENOUGH! This includes democrats as well!

When you see a file put out by your government specifically stating "conservative extremism", what part of that did you overlook? This has only come about since the tea party demonstrations have come about and with the government realizing millions of people are really and truly FED UP with their crap and taxing us into complete submission to the government. I couldn't care less what others think on here and there is no false assumptions made by me.

The writing is in black and white for those that care to read it. There is no assumption by what "conservative extremism" means and for those that don't live in LA la land, they too know exactly what this is.... an absolute violation of American civil rights. This opens the doors for government to turn lose police, national guard, and whatever else THEY deem necessary to shut up those that do not agree with them.

What about protesting do you have a problem with?

This hate Obama jag you're on tells a lot about you. You don't realize this has to do with your government, regardless who is at the helm, which in this case happens to be Obama. If it were Bush, I would be raising cane as well. Government is government, only this time we have someone on a power trip really going full force on running down our rights....


Obama and health care.
Listen,

It is human nature to be scared of of something different, People will remain in jobs while their wages sink, afraid that things could be worse if they leave.

There are reasons this time around that the AMA, the American Cancer Society and namy other prominant organizations are encouraging a single payer system, the reason being that the current system in in a shambles, and serving less and less. The premiums are exhorbitant not only for individuals but businesses as well, the current system is severely crippling job grown, and as an aside if one is so fortunate as to have health insurance, well over 70% of legitimate claims are being denied routinely.

When things get to that point, and they have, it is better to swallow the fear and make some changes when the current system is in a complete shambles. The benefits far outway the fear of making changes to a severely flawed system.
Don't know, don't care. Obama for PREZ!! nm
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So you don't care if Obama is elected only by
voters who don't actually exist......including illegals?
Yeah, I don't care for Obama, but I am not "proud"
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Obama says you can keep your employer health care....
but if you don't have, the government will step in. Under his tax proposals, how long do you think business will be able to afford health care for employees? Not very darned long. So, in the end, he gets what he wants...government controlled health care. He has changed the way he described it to try to end around the socialism tag of universal health care. Nice try, but no cigar. He is not fooling me. But, I don't take every word that falls out of his mouth as gospel like some do either (and I am not singling you out specifically).
I dont care who votes for Obama. I never could in
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Obama and his supporters dont care. as long as
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Obama did not vote to deny a baby care -
Obama clearly stated there was already a law on the books in Illinois that covered this topic and there did not need to be another one.  Do you not understand that?
Obama's top three health care campaign lies




By Phil Kerpen


Lie Number 1: I Won’t Tax Your Health Benefits


What Obama said on the campaign trail (Newport News, Va., October 4, 2008):


“So here’s John McCain’s radical plan in a nutshell: he taxes health care benefits for the first time in history… Well, I don’t think that’s right.”


What Obama says now:


Obama ally Sen. Max Baucus told the Washington Post that Obama is now willing to tax employer-provided health benefits. Baucus said: “Yeah, it’s something that he might consider. That was discussed. It’s on the table.”


Limiting or ending the tax-free status of health benefits makes sense if it’s used to cut other taxes and put all health insurance—employer-provided or not—on a level playing field. The existing benefit is an artifact of World War II-era price controls and creates a tax penalty for people who buy their own insurance.



But unlike the McCain plan, which would have taxed employer-provided health benefits and used the money to pay for a new health care tax credit, the plan now being considered by Democrats, including Obama, would tax employer-health benefits to fund increased government health care spending. For the 250 million-plus Americans who already have health insurance, this is a raw deal—they pay more taxes and get nothing in return.


Lie Number 2: I Won’t Force You to Buy Health Insurance


What Obama said on the campaign trail (Janesville, Wis., February 13, 2008):


“The main difference between my plan and Senator Clinton’s plan is that she’d require the government to force you to buy health insurance and she said she’d ‘go after’ your wages if you don’t.”


What Obama says now:


President Obama sent a letter to Democratic Senators Ted Kennedy and Max Baucus yesterday that says—using the new code word “responsibility” to refer to the same kind of mandate he slammed in Hillary’s plan:


“I understand the Committees are moving towards a principle of shared responsibility — making every American responsible for having health insurance coverage, and asking that employers share in the cost. I share the goal of ending lapses and gaps in coverage that make us less healthy and drive up everyone’s costs, and I am open to your ideas on shared responsibility.”


While President Obama did say he would like a waiver process in hardship cases, there is no reason to have a mandate other than to force people to buy insurance who don’t want to, mostly young people who are healthy and want to spend their limited income on their young careers and families. According to the Census Bureau, about 60 percent of the uninsured are under age 35, with the highest rates in the 18-24 bracket (28.1 percent uninsured) and the 25-34 (25.7 percent uninsured) bracket. This is about forcing some people who don’t want health insurance to pay for other people through a new government program. It’s more spreading the wealth around.


President Obama is poised to accept this provision for the same reason Sen. Clinton proposed it—to buy off insurance companies. Democrats learned a lesson from the 1993 HillaryCare fight when the insurance companies stopped a Washington health care takeover. The mandate is a giveaway to insurance companies to buy their support this time by forcing healthy young people who use less health care to pay insurance premiums.


Lie Number 3: If You Aren’t Rich, I Won’t Raise Your Taxes


What Obama said on the campaign trail (September 12, 2008, Dover, N.H.):


“I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.”


What Obama says now:


Well, it’s hard to keep up because new ideas are floated every day, but they all would involve taxing people who make less than $250,000. In fact, even his income tax hikes for the rich have now been dropped down to start at $235,000. Then there’s the soft drink excise tax, the cap-and-trade energy taxes, and most recently the VAT, a form of national sales tax. And of course the tax on health benefits I mentioned above would also break the only-tax-the-rich pledge.


What all these proposals have in common: we all pay, big-time, likely trillions of dollars in higher taxes for “free” government health care. In fact, that’s probably the biggest lie of all—that government health care is free.


Universal health care and President Obama's real plan -

I see again that everyone is talking about President Obama's plan for universal health care and I once again feel the need to distinguish between universal health care and what the plan is that President Obama has campaigned for.  I have copied and pasted part of the web page, but also included the link at the bottom of this for you to see the whole plan. 


President Obama does not ask for universal health care where the government is in charge - he just wants the government to ensure that everyone has access to medical care and health insurance.  Why is it so difficult to understand that this is not socialized medicine, government run healthcare, or universal coverage plans?


Barack Obama and Joe Biden's Plan


On health care reform, the American people are too often offered two extremes - government-run health care with higher taxes or letting the insurance companies operate without rules. Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe both of these extremes are wrong, and that’s why they’ve proposed a plan that strengthens employer coverage, makes insurance companies accountable and ensures patient choice of doctor and care without government interference.


The Obama-Biden plan provides affordable, accessible health care for all Americans, builds on the existing health care system, and uses existing providers, doctors and plans to implement the plan. Under the Obama-Biden plan, patients will be able to make health care decisions with their doctors, instead of being blocked by insurance company bureaucrats.


Under the plan, if you like your current health insurance, nothing changes, except your costs will go down by as much as $2,500 per year.


If you don’t have health insurance, you will have a choice of new, affordable health insurance options.


http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/


who could possibly care? War, financial ruin, health care needs.

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Again I say...they O lovers DON'T like
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Why don't you come up with something besides "O lovers"?
really annoying.
What's with the O lovers anyway?

Obama represents to democrats an upstanding individual who we believe will be able to bring about a more efficient government and restore credibility to the nation (among other things).  We hope this can be accomplished.  However, when even the slightest hint of a rumor comes along (nevermind the source), you guys are all over it acting like it's true before any facts at all have surfaced.  Because dems defend against this constant tirade of rabid pubs, we are automatically called O worshipers?  Actually, in this case we were called O worshipers in the original post...LOL.


I guess that would make you guys Fox News worshipers.  HAIL TO THE BIG O'REILLY!  -- you know he's selling door mats on his show now...ROFL...can't wait to get that big ticket item.  NOT.


For any and all animal lovers. sm

I am a member of Defenders of Wildlife.  This is a copy of an e-mail to that I was sent about Palin and the wolf hunting.  The link on the bottom is the link to the TV commercial that members donated for to be shown.  I am not sure where all it will be shown but in case it isn't in your area you might want to check it out.  It makes me sad watching it as I love all animals, never wear leather or fur and am vegan.


Hi,


Have you ever heard of aerial hunting? It's a brutal practice. Wolves are shot from low-flying aircraft or chased to exhaustion, then killed at point-blank range.


Governor Sarah Palin, the Republican nominee for Vice President, promotes this barbaric practice, exploiting a loophole in the Federal Airborne Hunting Act to allow private wolf killers to shoot down wolves using aircraft. To encourage the killing, she even proposed a $150 bounty for the left foreleg of each dead wolf!


We have to get the word out about this! Please watch this powerful new television ad by Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund, and then share it with every wildlife lover you know:


http://actionfund.defenders.org/palintvwolf


Believe me, the O lovers on here hate that
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Exactly!! Most O lovers in a delusional
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I think that's what O lovers are afraid of....
Of course she doesn't have the power to single handedly divide the country. She says what she believes and she is either liked or not. Some agree, some do not. I couldnt' care less what she wears or all this other nit picky garbage the O lovers have resorted to out of desperation.

A true sign of desperation is pulling out such ridiculous notions and accusations and worrying about her wardrobe. Who cares? At least her money isn't coming from terrorist organizations to help her fund her wardrobe, campaign, or anything else for that matter.

Too bad O lovers don't care where his funds are coming from. They are afraid to find out because the truth "won't set them free".
Aw, according to the O lovers on this board

that math doesn't equal either. That's why I didn't put Ayers and the rest in the mix. There's enough between the Blago's and Rezko to equal the O.


The post with reading the other document....I saved it and hopefully I'll have time tomorrow to read the whole thing (49 pages!).


I just have to find the time to do all I need to do with Christmas coming up. I'm about stretched to the limit now.


No, you're just in a sea of O lovers ......
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And before the O lovers say it ain't so.... remember
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That's like starting a forum for pet lovers

And then saying they can only talk about pets they don't have any more, not their current ones!  Or a car enthusiasts forum where people can only speak of vehicles they used to own, not what they currently drive. 


What's the point in this forum, then, to only talk about the future or the past, not the present?  How ridiculous!


You won't get a response.....O lovers hate
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Don't expect any answers from O lovers on this
If Obama hasn't told them, they wouldn't know....they need him to think for them. He won't even give the amount needed to run his social programs, let alone all the other pie in the sky stuff he wants to do, stuff they do in socialist countries where everyone pays through the nose more than us and the government takes care of all of them, like Obama wants to do, take care of all of us while he screws us all over.

Most of those "plans" he has would put so many businesses out of business it is scary to even think about it. All this stuff he wants mandated...well, if small businesses have to enact that garbage, they will go under. Not the rich! The very middle-class he seems to have convinced this O lovers on this board he wants to take care of.
Oh those O lovers can't read between the lines
right to the slaughter. He has changed his policies several times. He sways with the wind and gets his advisors to revamp "his" policies every time the wind changes direction. Which is why all those that believe those numbers mean anything, are fooling themselves.
You can't 3.5+ trillion dollars worth of government increase by Obama with those small little amounts the O lovers keep reciting on this board. They're making your case and too dumb to know it.

If it's ONLY a few more dollars, how do they think he can pay 3.5 trillion dollars in government increases with that?

For all those O lovers who jumped on the plumber

Obama stated today, while trying to turn the plumber thing back towards McCain as if he NEVER said "spread the wealth" this.......


"How many of you know a plumber that makes half a million dollars?".  McCain never said that, Obama did.  Obama told the plumber that the business he was looking at buying which may or may not make 250K would be taxed to "spread the wealth" around.  Boy, he's desperate now. 


Now for all those O lovers who have had such a hatred all of a sudden of a "rich" plumber, how ya gonna back peddle on that one?  You and Obama need to get on the same page...... now even Obama says a plumber can't make 250K!  What a joke he is.


 


Still waiting for those O lovers to refute any of this
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narrow minded? yup that is the O lovers
P.S. - last time someone was called stupid they were banned.

You don't like what I have to say fine. Maybe you should keep your opinions to yourself. No need to be rude - oh wait! Your an O lover. Guess you do feel you have the right to be rude.

As Ben Franklin said, which fits perfectly about your post, .... "Better to keep silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".
Exactly! ..and ignorance is bliss to those O lovers
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Oh, but it IS funny! You just dont get it. O lovers
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No, what I seen is O lovers are getting a wakeup call
O lovers have nothing else to say because the majority of the US citizens are saying it loudly with every phone call to the white house and it just ain't looking for for Obama, no matter how much he smiles and tells you everybody wants him......well, they ain't wanting him right now.



O lovers just living in denial..... he has let them go
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Why do O lovers always object, even when the truth
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Good luck trying to convince O lovers they;re
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Oooh, O lovers don't wanna hear that....that's
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Notice how all the O lovers get strangely quiet
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Notice how O lovers got suddenly quiet
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Heads up Bush and Cheney lovers...(sm)
from what I understand, the govt will be releasing more of the redacted portions of the torture memos on Friday.  Soon to be followed by more info.  Hold onto your hats. 
You'll NEVER get those hard core O lovers to believe the
They HATE anyone that makes more than they do and are so dumb, they don't realize those with money actually HIRE people to work....

Rich isn't a bad word. If they were rich, they sure as hoot wouldn't think it a bad word and would love to keep their own money and I can guarantee you wouldn't want to hand it over to others who sit on their butts for a living!!

That magical number has gone down from day 1 and will continue to do so....

Where do all these people think all the money will come from to pay for all the social government controlled programs come from? There aren't enough RICH people in this country to pay for all that waste!! Of course, they'll believe anything Obama yammers on about and will actually believe it's gonna be paid for by reallocating monies within the government.... won't increase the country's deficit at all...

yea, right!!

Calling all CLINTON LOVERS..... hard pill for
I have been watching the blame game, mostly towards the Republicans, of which I am not, but this is absurd, to watch posters blabbering foolishly about something they obviously know nothing about. Poster is right about Federal Reserve BUT do you people not realize who signed the LANDMARK DEREGULATION bill? It was Bill Clinton folks....get your facts straight.

FINANCIAL SERVICES MODERNIZATION ACT of 1999 -- signed by President Bill Clinton. Many of you really need to read up on that one. He and Greenspan managed to drive an already overheated economy when he signed this deregulation into law. This was the root cause for the Internet and real estate bubble....sorry, but Bush was not at the helm when this problem started, but Clinton was and really pushed things over the edge and started the ball rolling when he deregulated the banks. What did he think was going to happen when he took regulation out of the banking system? He took out accountability and that's when greed started growing like wildfire.

Now, before you continue spewing Republican hatred, you might want to do your homework. As much as you might not like the answer, facts are facts and you are welcome to pull up 'ole Billy boy's "modernization act" and read up on it.

Clinton's lack of foreign policy also perpetuated this mess with Al-Qaeda, so of course any future president, dem or rep was going to have to deal with the mess he left.
To all you Palin lovers, please check your facts...(inside)

It is scary that so many of you think this woman is so wonderful.  How in the world can you think that when she is tromping on everyone to beat it to the White House when she is so unqualified.  Plus the woman must be on welfare that she has to charge the state of Alaska for flights, hotel rooms (and not in the Days Inn either), for herself, children, etc., then go back into her expense chart and add things to get it to pass, wonder who advised her to do that?)  She certainly did not disclose the wardrobe that was given to her out of campaign money, and she didn't shop at Walmart either, admidst the credit crunch she pretends to care about (I guess it doesn't apply to her personally), and where there is smoke there is fire, the woman is vindictive, look at Troopergate.  This morning now it is being disclosed she leaned to special bids for the Alaskan pipeline that cannot possibly be built for years if even then and that is her platform.  Anyone who cries foul about the press maligning her when they find out about sneaky things she does does not get my respect.  Just listen to her interview with Katie Couric - how dumb can one get?  I did not start out biased towards her, I just read about her and became alarmed. 


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I don't really care. sm
It just seems it has been carried on long enough.  I would rather just debate.  It sounds more like a grudge, but as I said, just my 2 cents. 
I don't really care!!! SM
All of you all need to stay over here and try and find some topics to discuss like is happening tonight.