Thank you - the wisest thing I've read yet today
Posted By: Just me on 2009-01-10
In Reply to: haven't been following this discussion at all BUT - Emily Ayn
I keep posting there are bad and good on both sides. Neither side is perfect. There are a lot of democrats I agree with and I think they are right on (Kucinich, Richardson, and others in the senate). Actually there are more democrats I agree with than I would rather admit to. HA HA, but there are some I absolutely do not agree with (Pelosi, Reid, Clinton and others). On the other side there are some republicans I agree with (Ron Paul and others, can't think of any others right now just cos I'm so tired) and those that I think really stink (Bush at the top of them), but unless we get on this board praising Obama and every single democrat and cut down and destroy every republican, we will get bashed over and over. I have said many times there are good and bad on both sides and if people are going to follow the group think and not think for themselves, well that's when they lose a part of their sense. My mom is a great one. I don't know how many arguments I will have with her. She hates Bush so much with such a vengence she has come right out and said what she want to happen. "He's a liar, he's this, I don't have any money because of Bush, etc, etc. But the minute I say to her If you want to talk about liars lets hit on Clinton, or lets talk about what Obama said. Ohhhh no, can't do that. I was also told by her "If you know what is good for you, you'll stop saying those bad things about him". I asked her what exactly does that mean and she said I just better watch it. Then I said to her, well how can you say what you say about Bush but I tell you I disagree about something Obama said and your ready to report me to the authorities. Funny how someone mysteriously happened to be knocking on her door at that moment and she had to leave (btw, I didn't hear anything in the background and her phone is in the halway near her front door). So unless people will admit when they are wrong there will always be arguments.
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That's the funniest thing I've seen today! nm
That's the most sensible thing I've read on this board
in a looooong time. Why should somebody who works hard (or inherits) for their money have to pay more taxes than someone who makes (or inherits) less money. Everybody paying the same - that is equality. 
Now THAT's the smartest thing I've read in a long time! nm
East Ohio Gas has been using natural gas to fuel their utility trucks for years - why hasn't that caught on? Makes ya wonder..............
We've alrady done this 2 or 3 times today.
Obama is talking about tax cut and tax credit to people who work and pay taxed. No every man, woman, child and fetus in the nation. It's like talking to a brick wall. When Obama refer to TAX cuts and TAX credits is is talking a about people who have TAX liabilities. He did not need to say that in the statement because he is assuming that it is understood that you cannot get a tax cut if you don't owe taxes and you cannot get a tax credit if you do not owe taxes. I do no know how to make this any more clear to you than that.
Now, answer my questions. If you cannot answer those questions...if you cannot show me where Obama said is tax credits would be refundable then your argument fall apart and you know that. Also, answer for me why it is that only Obama is a socialist with his tax proposals on a PROGRESSIVE TAX SYSTEM which we have had since the first day we paid income tax and any other president who has also had tax proposal/reform is not a socialist. If you continue along this line, there is no other conclusion to draw except you cannot answer, you will no answer because you know that it would mean you would have to admit that your socialist rants....at least where taxes are concerned...are BOGUS.
I read about this today.
What I find the most interesting is that he feels "...and he said that a controversial legal theory then in vogue -- of directing employers to pay women equally to men for jobs of "comparable worth" -- was "staggeringly pernicious" and "anti-capitalist."
Say WHAT Mr. Roberts?
I have been reading up today...and will read more...
later this evening. I am trying to find out if there is a provision for where the recipient lives, because as you stated, the cost of living differs greatly in certain areas and that should definitely be taken into consideration if it is not being taken into consideration now.
I am also looking into the illegals issue/states. Many states require only a driver's license as proof of citizenship, and we all know how easy those are to obtain...illegals are caught driving on them all the time. And they use those same driver's licenses to obtain social services.
At any rate, I am looking more deeply into the issue. I will post what I find.
Make sure youre read about today's
Meet the Press with David Gregory. It's embedded in this OP's news story. It's long, but for those who did not watch Meet the Press this morning, please read the whole thing, including Rep. Boehner's interview.
Just read today that the deficit is projected to go down to 313 billion very soon. sm
That's well over 100 billion less, but I know how hard it is to shape the words of appreciation for Hitler Nazi war criminal Bush, so the rest of us will just celebrate.
Yeah, I read today about Odinga, O's cousin
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Did anyone read Dave Barry's column today? It's
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Well, they should've done the honorable thing
and not invite the president if they hate him so much. Its obivious the only reason he was invited was to be humiliated which shows the total lack of class of the whole group. I'M SURE that no matter how much Mrs. King disagreed with GWB she would have had the class and consideration not to turn her funeral into a zing fest of the president. She was a very gentle and kind woman.
Anyway the NAACP knew what they were doing. They invited him so if he did come they could humiliate him, and if he didn't come they could crucify him in the press for not coming.
Hey that's the first thing you've said that I agree with
helping the situation.
Ha!! Best thing I've seen since Monday...lol nm
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Most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Isn't that the most absurd thing you've ever heard?
Wow! That was the best thing I've seen in a long time
Thanks for sharing. Excellent!!!!
This is by far the best post I've ever read
And it's 100% true, too.
I've read too much about this package
and it will not help the people that need help. It doesn't provide help to the regular "joe's" out there that need help. It is all about the greed again. Most of it will only help regular "joe's" by the year 2011, not now. By that time, we will either be down the tubes or everything will have corrected itself on its own.
I don't think government should meddle in ways to try to turn the economy around. It only mkes it worse. Look at all the handouts in the first stimulus package. Did the regular "joe's" get any help out of it? Nope. It will be the same with this one. Did you see Glen Beck's breakdown on the package posted below? If not, I suggest you look at it or else I can post it here.
It goes to show that the democrats don't give a darn about us, just their agenda even though 11 democrats voted against it. That has to say something. Evidently, the democrats (and I don't mean this harshly) didn't get enough calls from their constiuents to knock this package into oblivion. They were in a hurry to pass it? Why? Not because it would help us, but because they wanted it passed before anyone really got a chance to see what it entailed.
Sorry, but I disagree with you whole heartedly. This will not help. It will only hurt. This will take our dollars down to zero and the next thing you know, we will be taking wheelbarrows of money to the store to buy a loaf of bread if you can even find it in the stores.
That's probably the most ignorant post I've read in a while
Please consider re-reading your post and see if you truly think you have done *any* real research.
Example: Giving our money to countries (who hate us anyway)? Please give that a rest. We "give away" a pittance to countries who need it while often RAPING their resources (Africa being a great example). And we ship BILLIONS to Israel - why do they need to be subsidized by the US? THINK about it before you answer.
As a matter of fact THINK about a lot of your comments - like the ridiculous notion that we would ROB the rich to pay the poor. You clearly don't get Obama's message of empathy my friend - but more importantly your comments about this and welfare are just not FACTUAL.
When I read posts like this I am more sad than I am when I look at the current crop of corrupt politicians who want us to vote them into the whiteouse in November.
Example: Obama says he wans to stop nuclear proliferation! WHAT A JOKE. OUR #1 EXPORT is weapons of mass destruction.
How do you stop proliferation when you are the world's biggest supplier?
Best description of the Samunist I've read yet.
This post is truly one of the most digusting I've read
And there have been lots of them. "John McCain has broken up a lot of marriage?" Oh please, show me the proof. Give me the names of the marriages he broke up.
Once again another lame attempt at the liberals trying to paint an untrue picture of reality.
And can you be any more disgusting in your "glee filled" description. Anyone can make up anything and make one side look worse than the other, and that's what this looks like. Although I do have to say it's a poor attempt.
I know you think Obama is the second coming of Christ, but please don't spread your malicious rumors and lies. Is it not enough you don't like McCain and don't want him to win, that's fine and that's your perogative, but to put up an absolute piece of trash post like this shows just how low and disgusting the dems will go.
As for checking out someones butt???? You are truly a piece of work. A lot of times I will be in line and looking down towards someone's butt but it doesn't mean "I'm checking them out".
As for this post - what goes around comes around.
I've listened, watched and read
about as much as anyone and I believe the 95% applies to people who PAY taxes. Common sense.......how can you give someone a reduction in taxes who doesn't pay taxes. Nonsense.
First time I've read that quote...scary (nm)
Read this closely. You've confused me with other posters.
And you jump on me like I'm the other poster(s) that you were railing about.
Geez, at least try to address the correct poster when you go on your rants.
It's very unbecoming.
Either you can't read, or you've just proved her point. Nice going.
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Well, I've heard and read he's a pretty rough character
much less a peace prize candidate. In all seriousness, enlighten me as to what he's done to deserve a peace prize? I can only assume it's because of his socialistic practices that seem to now be a pre-requisite for being a peace prize candidate...
If you read the whole thing....
it is black liberation theology basically...and is segregationist. When whites preached segregation, it was called racist. That is exactly what Michelle Obama is doing. That blacks should separate themselves from whites so as not to be "assimilated." So much for no black america, no white america, just america....she does not believe that, and I don't believe he does either. All his career, his associations, etc., do not support that he does.
After you read the thesis, you understand that she meant exactly what she said when she said for the first time in her adult life she was proud of her country.
Obviously they share this separation view and that is why they gravitated to the people they gravitated to, and to Wright's church.
And no, Obama's campaign did not release it. Princeton University did, because of the Freedom of Information Act, and she signed at the beginning of the thesis that Princeton could release it (back when she wrote it..of course, at that time had no idea she would be wife of man running for Pres of US).
I was not going to vote for Obama anyway, and this certainly moved me more solidly toward McCain.
And one more thing.........everybody read......sm
Thanks for "coming to my defense" on the board today. We might not always agree on everything, but that's the beauty of life. Y'all are the greatest! MMMMMMWWWWWWAAAAAA!!!!!
You best read up on history a little more. GOT for one thing.
This is the most nonsensical thing I have ever read. nm
I read the whole thing, and I appreciate your opinion, and I know you believe it...
now try to understand my belief. I feel that my God is a powerful and just God. I also believe that He gave His children free will, and I believe that all of us will answer to Him one day for all our choices, whatever they may be. Please understand...I do believe that those aborted babies are with God now. No doubt about it. Straight shot to his side, as they are the most innocent among us. But you cannot make me believe that a just and loving God would agree with this heinous, horrible procedure, to the tune of 1.2 million every year! I'm sorry...I just don't believe that.
And I'm sorry...I don't think murder is between God and the person. An unborn child has a soul...just like a child who has been born. What about someone who murders a child outside the womb? Is that between the murderer and the creator? What about when a pedophile hurts and then murders a child? That is between the pedophile and his creator? I am not saying that to be mean or confrontational. I am trying to understand.
My God, I believe, loves all children, and yes, children who die violently go right to His side, yes, I believe that. What I do not believe is that it was His will that they die violently. You have your belief, and I have mine. Can't be just allow each other to have our beliefs? Can't I be allowed to follow MY belief of MY God, which tells me that someone needs to speak for these children?
As you said...that is just my opinion, my belief.
I did read the whole thing, why do you assume that I
didn't? Just because I didn't feel that it was racist, doesn't mean I didn't. We obviously have different takes on it.
The release of it I was referring to was to the politico.com web site, which Obama did relase it to, not the thesis as a whole.
I agree...have read the same thing. nm
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That's the most stereotypical thing I"ve ever read
New California seems like a racist state to me....
Just ignore them, ms, obviously they refuse to read the whole thing....nm
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It's obvious you didn't read a DARN thing.....
First of all, real history is not taught in college either.... unless you are soooo lucky as to get a professor who actually LOVES history and really DID his/her homework.
My son is a history/political major and LOVES history... and I can assure you, he would put history teachers to shame in what they "think" they know.... the crap the government puts in their history books is all they are ALLOWED to teach in our public "government ran" schools!
Our history IS politics....where have you been? Teaching our kids politics IS teaching them history.... WOW! Glad my son is teaching them and not you!
This guy has been teaching for 19 years with NO complaints about his informative web site.... the parents have ALWAYS like it!
Only ONE person complained......ONE!!! No doubt a liberal jackarse who has NO loyalty or love for this country whatsoever.... another lost soul.
This guy had an introductory video where he says he truly wanted his kids to LOVE America.........what the heck is wrong with that?
He was told to remove that video because everyone "did not love America"..... huh? Then I suppose they can sit on their sorry sad butts and hate everything....who cares? This guy did nothing wrong but encourage students to love their country but of course, you WOULD have something wrong with that! Geesh!
But valuing over the price of a dollar is a right thing wing thing, so you are on the wrong board. n
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Can't chew gum. Would've if I could've.
Even got hypnotized. Supposedly guaranteed to quit. Lasted 5 hours. Thank heavens I never smoked anything stronger.
This looks interesting. A long read, so will read it when I get home from work. nm
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Obviously u didnt read, I said NONE of them are moral. Read the post before spouting off.
I read on CNN (yes, I do read liberal stuff too..hehe)...sm
...that Karl Rove was actually very disappointed in the McCain campaign for airing negative type ads against Obama.
So I would say that Rove is definitely not in the hip pocket of the McCain campaign.
Good research sam - but a lot to read right now so gotta read it later
I've been goofing off too much from work. I appreciate what you wrote and will read when I'm done with work here.
Today is a new day.
I have decided to not even read the conservative board any more, let alone post there.
My suggestion is we respect their board and stop posting there, as they have asked us to do, and that they in turn stop posting on our board, as we have asked them to do.
Anybody want to bet on who can't stay away from which board? 
Where is sam today?
I am missing her viewpoint on today's issues. Sam, are you lurking?
No flaming, please, by the peanut gallery.
the one today at the U of K
The men were charged with disorderly conduct related to the hanging of the effigy. They were also charged with burglary and theft at a fraternity house where police said the materials came from. They were not charged with a hate crime.
UK President Lee Todd said the effigy violates the university's code of ethics, and Fischer faces punishment that could include expulsion.
From what I read, it is not considered a hate crime because: It's also true that as long as it was clear that the hanging figure represented Obama or another prominent black politician rather than a private citizen, it wouldn't be legally actionable as a hate crime. Our laws give broad latitude to clear expressions of political opinion, as opposed to incitements to violence against ethnic groups.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-ed-effigy30-2008oct30,0,4355428.story
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hlnR7kQP7tXQKA0872BAweYKqPFQD9454DIG0
is that as of today?
Is that as of today or as of Nov 4th. I am asking this seriously, not a smart aleck comment. I have read that since 11/4 something like 42 electors have joined in one or more of the suits to order production of the B/C before they vote. No, I am not sure of the actual number, but I know I did read that they had joined in the suits because they felt it would be a constitutional violation to vote until the issue had been definitively put to rest as apparently they felt enough doubt had been raised. What I read said they felt this way because the SC is actually considering the writ of certiorari instead of just tossing it.
Yes, that is as of today.
This is a clear-cut, speculation-free figure.
But they said it was today.
Well, then if it is old, CNN SUCKS.
Where have you been today?
why is it when something you perceive to be negative towards Obama comes to light,you choose to believe it ain't so?
No pot was stirred. Decision was made with the blessings of Obama to basically let the terrorists off the hook who blew up the USS Cole. Now, if you don't know anything about that or you don't have a family member who was blown to he!! on that ship, then I suppose it wouldn't concern you, even though it should. These families were not "organized". They heard the ruling that said all the terrorists who blew up their children will get a free pass!! Bush didn't drop the charges against them! Obama did! Where have you been?
And no, if you were watching your TV, you would see they are not being let back on the grounds; even the liberal cameras are now focusing on that.
Since your head has been in the sand, you might like to know that Obama stirred this pot. He asked the families of those murdered to meet with him. HE asked THEM!
Sorry, but he started this little ball rolling all by his lonesome.
How sad that today
people are so willing to throw their children to the lions. If they're not aborting them, they're encouraging them to engage in a behavior that will mean a multitude of disease, early death or lifelong mental problems, and all under the guise of "tolerance." You should be ashamed. This mother is on the right track.
I never said it's a bad thing, it is a good thing....nm
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