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Thanks so much! Sums my feelings up perfectly. nm

Posted By: GhostMom on 2009-03-03
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That about sums it up. nm
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Sums It Up, IMHO

Pretty much sums it up, if you ask me:


From the  Sunday Portland Oregonian:

"Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote,
invest, [balance our budgets], educate our children--- and now, die--- I think the Republicans have done a fine job of getting government out of our personal lives."


That about sums it up for me. I admire
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This pretty much sums up most

My Answer To The President is a good read.......



http://www.campaignforliberty.com/


 


Disgusting sums it up better. n/m

This pretty much sums up Mrs. M

This is one of her posts:  "Obama won by majority and It's time for people to back the new president and be patriotic."


Only a terrible racist person would suggest that we be supportive of our president and be PATRIOTIC!!! 


RIGHT?!


But, hey, if you guys allege it, it must be true.


Why use another adjective when "sad" pretty much sums it up? nm
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Thank you!!! You said it all perfectly!!! NM
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you said it perfectly. After that sm
then who do they tax? There is a fundamental problem here and it is the problem of big government getting in all our business! I hate cigarette smoke also and because of a chronic illness just a whiff of it puts me in the hospital. BUT, do I think they should place this tax, NO. For the same reason as you, because it is not our health the government is concerned about. They could not care less. They just want to control the American people more and more. Anyone who cant see that needs to take the blinders off!
My feelings exactly
unfortunately.
Just my feelings on it

Well, I don't know about any others, but to me that is a lot of money (quadruple what I'm used to making) and I don't feel the program's basic intent was to give financial help to people in that income bracket, the intent was to help the minimum wage earners who would not be able to afford insurance AT ALL even if it were offered through their employers.  If they set the cap that high, why bother to have a cap at all?


When I lived in Michigan I believe they had a similar program that was not based on income at all, but based on whether the parents were working or not.  It had been noticed that some people felt justified staying on welfare because they couldn't insure their children if they were working at minimum wage, so this was an incentive to get them to work.  It was very cheap (like $5 or $10 a month per child); at the time I had insurance through my employer and didn't utilize it, as I assumed it was mainly for minimum wage earners/those whose employers didn't offer any insurance.  Another reason I didn't utilize it was I assumed the coverage might be substandard to what I had, and less providers might be available that would take it.  Michiganders - correct me if I'm wrong about this program.


My feelings exactly......
These wars go back centuries. The Palistinians have never wanted peace and never will. There are many Palistinians and Israelites that have lived side by side in peace for the most part, until the Palistinian so-called leaders and just those that plain out hate start rearing their ugly heads again. If the Palistinian leaders weren't worried about their people before the bombings, why now? The terrorist leaders have never worried about the hospitals, schools, or anything else for that matter. Their country does live in a very primative existence compared to what it could but the terrorist leaders certainly do not want their people to think for themselves. Heaven forbid!!

If Palestine meant anything to those that "rule them", then they would see that Hamas is obliterated from the face of the earth but they won't and that is why this will continue until God calls us home......Israel and its people are God's chosen. Israel has been patient beyond belief with these people and at some point they have enough. Perhaps Palestians leaders should really put their concern in their own country instead of their putred hate and then change for the better could happen.
Perfectly understandable..

..how people who can't see three fingers being held up by someone (see posts and accompanying accusations below) are the very same people who can see a fetus in a hurricane.


Those of us who aren't delusional and twisted can clearly see the truth in this article.  Thanks for posting it.


I have been perfectly respectful.
I am not sure what you are talking about.
Let me be perfectly clear about what I said.

Since the poster above seems to think he/she can put words in my mouth, I will tell you exactly what I said. 


I fully expect all posters to be respectful and not put down the President (current or past) or anyone else for that matter. I don't care if they're Liberal, Conservative, or polka dotted. 


On the forum, you will be respectful in posting or you won't be allowed to post.


Think you can handle that? If you can't, don't post. It's just that simple. 


So what? You know perfectly well that what people
'more of the same' implies the candidates the republicans have chosen to nominate. You know that, I know that, and everyone else on this board knows that.

You really do have a gift, though, I might say. That gift is the ability to twist & manipulate words and numbers to come out to mean what YOU want them to. Too bad you can't find yourself some way to make a living at it.

Hmmm.... Maybe you should run for office?
I understand perfectly

They are lacking in reasoning capacity.


I'm perfectly fine with that.
Thanks Amanda - you explained it well. I had never heard the term anchor babies. If they are born in the US then that's fine for president.
I think it is perfectly clear

how things will go with regards to Obama.  As evident by this board, I think it is very obvious that some people may hold back their "judgments" or concerns about Barrack Obama for the simple fact that any criticism aimed at the president thus far is construed as racism.  How dare we criticize what he does, his agenda, etc. because he is the first mixed race president. 


I also think that he will be judged less harshly because the liberal media will not cover things fairly.  They will continue to portray Barrack Obama as the savior/rock star. 


When this stimulus package fails to stimulate the economy and when our economy is still suffering at the end of his term, we will see how fairly he will be judged.  Until then, he is getting a free pass by the liberal media and people too eager to throw out the race card or people who are too afraid to criticize for fear of being called racist.


I think it is perfectly fine -
You also have to take into account the differences in what one generation feels is appropriate and what the next generation feels is appropriate.

I can remember when I was younger being told I could not even wear jeans to McDonald's when applying for a job, that I needed to wear a dress. Now, with the new generation, you don't even need your "BEST" jeans on - anything goes.

Going for a business interview? Well, forget the dress and panty hose... wear a pantsuit or a dress with bare legs.

At least Obama still has on a dress shirt and a tie, and I am sure the jacket is there available when it is needed.

I also read that one of the problems is that Obama does not like the cold and he keeps the thermostat turned to an uncomfortable high if you have on a jacket.
I can only tell you what my feelings were this morning...sm
when I saw CP on Meet the Press. We already knew from the lead in that he was going to support one candidate or the other. I respect him so much that I was praying he would endorse Obama but had no real feeling of which way he would go. I listened to what he had to say and felt his pain that he was a republican through and through but just could not endorse McCain. He spoke of their friendship over many years and how much he respected him but could not abide the far right direction and the negative tone that the campaign had taken. He said he is an American first and thinks that Obama is better for America than McCain.
You mirrored my feelings exactly!

I find it amazing that some people on this board who are making such an issue of the Obama birth certificate nonissue on "Constitutional" grounds don't seem to care what Bush has done (and is continuing to do, even in his supposed last days in office) to this country.


I was pretty ambivalent about Bush when he was first (s)elected.  Quite frankly, Gore didn't excite me that much, either, and I was disappointed that in a country of a quarter of a billion people (at the time), these were the only TWO people we could find to run for President.


However, when Bush stood in that rubble with that megaphone, I developed huge respect for him and felt as if I was part of HIS America.


It was HIS very own actions that caused that respect to crumble, bit by bit, until I despised him and his "base," the same "base" on Wall Street that continues to rob us all to this very day.


He referred to the Constitution as a (expletive deleted) piece of paper, and his actions have proved his contempt for it.  (Isn't it telling that I can't even copy his entire statement here because it's considered too vulgar??!!)


I've never felt such distrust for my government until the last eight years.  I voted for Obama and will, like you, continue to trust him UNTIL he gives me a reason not to, and then I will be all over him (like you), but my days of just blanketly assuming my President is on the side of America and Americans are long gone.


I have mixed feelings on this.

I actually see both sides.  I don't like the idea of government telling businesses what they can and can't do because that is scary to let the government have so much control.  However, if you are getting government money, government should have a say in where that money goes.  This is a tough one for me.  Like I said, I can see both sides.


I know...the sky is falling....someone actually seeing things from both sides.  What are the chances? 


I have mixed feelings about
legalizing marijuana.  I think that cancer patients, MS patients, etc. should have the option of using if they so choose.  However, I'm afraid that if we legalize it, it will just lead to more of our kids using it because it is more socially acceptable.  One of my biggest pet peeves is those people at parks who think that because we are all outside that their cigarette smoke won't bother other people.  It is bad enough that non-smokers have to deal with THAT let alone legalizing marijuana and having to deal with people smoking that around us in parks, at ball parks, etc.  I seriously would be super ticked off if I saw someone smoking pot at my son's T-ball game whether it is legal or not. 
My personal feelings aside,,,
the three branches of government were meant to be equal. It was never intended for the judicial branch to be able to "overrule" the legislative branch or the voters whenever they felt that it was appropriate. It is abuse of what was meant to be a check and balance, but who checks the courts. It would appear that they have worked themselves into the final say and that is really unfortunate.
mixed feelings
I also have mixed feelings on the subject of alcohol. I am not in support of restricting this free choice at all, but what I would really like to see is more enforcement and stiffer penalties for drunken driving. Too many of these jerks have 5, 6, 7 and more drunk driving offenses, and keep on driving. Having lost my beautiful 32-year-old sister-in-law, mother of 3 and pregnant with her 4th baby, to a drunk driver with 3 prior offenses, His penalty was 10 years in jail, but he was out in a lot less. My SIL's husband is without a mate for life and her children are without a mother, too young at the time to really even remember her much. Our entire family has suffered a huge loss because of the misuse of alcohol. I get just nuts when I hear of some other drunk with multiple offenses continuing to drive - legally - and see some bartender who doesn't cut people off and get them a cab when it is obvious they have had way too much.
Yes, we know, not tolerant, perfectly describes
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It's perfectly clear to me what the context was, so if it's above you, then
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Why? This video explains it perfectly.

You and I  and some others on this board already knew this, but Keith Olbermann did an excellent job of explaining this to anyone who doesn't get it.  This is a great video. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7yl-UnsQQ


You've summed it up perfectly.

I find it perfectly alright to say
I am white and I know how it works. White folks say a couple is "engaged" if the girl gets pregnant. Black folks say they are staying somewhere but do not go as far as to say they are engaged.
Again, Carla I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings

and I know this had to be a horrendous Christmas...


However, I just don't share your views about this administration.  I don't think trying to increase this country's intelligence and making the CIA and FBI better networking departments a controversial issue.  When asked the question what American has the Patriot Act violated the dems are strangely quiet.  They just continue to insist that Bush has done something wrong by increasing the intelligence level through wiretaps that every other American president was okayed to do.


I just don't understand congressmen and women standing up there having a hissy over Bush wire taps knowing, KNOWING, that the 4th plane on 9/11 was bound for an in session capital building.  To me the Dems are BLINDED by partisan politcs.  It frankly borders on sociopathic..


Bush has done nothing to to hurt Americans but only to protect them.   Frankly, I'm glad he's got the guts to do what it takes to keep America safe.  I don't know what *9/11 perps* you are talking about, but I don't think anyone has gone free.  I really don't know why in the heck you care about terrorists rotting in jail in the first place.  They are not American citizens and have none of the rights an American has.  If the military was allowed to do what it was supposed to do and try them they would be dispensed with, but throwing them in the American legal system  only condemed them to the piss poor, liberally manged American judicial system---who would much rather have a T.V. celebrity trial with all the trimmings than actually get down to work to putting some of the psychos and thugs behind bars or better yet....executing some the slime who prey on children and the innocent. 


While I will never convince you to support this president you need to see things for what they really are.  What is going to take for some of you to see that the president is not the problem but terrorism and partisan politics is?  I guess it may take a much broader hit than 9/11.  I pray it doesn't happen, but if you and the dems don't wake up and smell the coffee I'm afraid I could happen again.


of course I didn't share my feelings with my son, but thank you. nm
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You guys have the most dainty little feelings. sm
How DO you live in this world?  My goodness!  Ann Counter is HARDLY at the helm of the Republican party.  In fact, there are a lot on the right who don't like her either.  Can you guys talk about anything but hurt feelings? 
I looked at it....and I understand the feelings...
however, you know where I stand. I stand on the sides of the soldiers who said *yes, it is our right to do that, that does not mean we have to exercise it* and *I myself would not have done that.* I do not blame any of those soldiers for appearing, other than I believe, whether intentions are good or not, that they worsened their situation by emboldening the enemy. I see that that was not a question that was asked. If those soldiers had to answer that question truthfully, a whole different debate might be out there.

Again, I support their right to do whatever they think is best; I do not support their timing. The problem is that others also have to live with the consequences of their actions. We all have a lot of rights to do a lot of things...we simply choose where and when to exercise those rights...using discretion...and considering how our actions will affect others. I had a right to carry a sign in the park across from the White House while Clinton was in office saying the President of the US is an admitted albeit unindicted felon, but I did not exercise that right. That is basically what I am talking about. It is how you choose to exercise the right...not that you HAVE the right. And I don't think hiding behind *I have the right* always excuses the fallout from the exercising. But you knew we would not agree on this.

I also have a problem with a statement like *the majority of the country is against the war in Iraq,* and *the majority of the military is against the war in Iraq.*
When you look at the percentages on the polls they are very close. Without giving the actual percentages, it gives the impression of a much larger gap. And they quoted the Military Times poll for the other statement. The Military Times does not now nor has it ever represented the majority of the American Military, and there is a definite bias there. But I will stop on that subject now.

As to biased on the part of CBS...I believe CBS probably actively hunted for this story, and I expect those gentlemen were paid well for their appearances, though we will never know that, and it really does not matter in the grand scheme of things.


Again...my feelings about Barack Obama have nothing to do...
with his color and one wonders why people keep bringing that up. My issue is with his policies and the direction he wants to take the country in. I would feel the same if he were white. Or Asian. Or Hispanic...or anything else.

Just because he is elected doesn't mean I am miraculously going to change the value system I grew up with and still have. I would not expect you to change yours if the other side had won. I would expect they would have to win you over...just like he will have to win me over. Just because he won I did not become an Obama supporter. Nothing has changed for me since yesterday as far as how I feel about him. He himself understands he has to earn my respect. So, I say to him...go ahead, President Obama. We shall see how it turns out.
My feelings exactly! It was a great show.
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I have mixed feelings on this subject.

I lost my father to emphysema so this subject is very touchy to me.  I HATE cigarettes with a passion.  On one side, I think it is great that they are going to control what tobacco companies put in their cigarettes.  My mom and I have said for years that all the crap they put in tobacco is just ridiculous.  Surely there is a way they can "clean up" their cigarettes so to speak.  I can't help but wonder how many years my dad lost in his life due to his cigarette smoking.  I remember vividly how many times he tried to quit and just couldn't do it.  The man literally smoked until one day he couldn't breathe and my mom called 911.  My dad was rushed to the hospital.  He had started to turn bluish gray.  He lived 4 days after that.  He never came home and that was 2 years ago. 


However, I agree that...what is next...alcohol....fast food...etc.  There are a lot of alcohol related illnesses and there are also a lot of illnesses related to being overweight.  Then we have the people on illegal drugs, etc.  I'm tired of government involvement in every little thing and yet at the same time I can't be unhappy with this whole tobacco thing.  Call me a hypocrit if you will, but cigarettes have cost me 2 grandpas, 1 uncle, and a dad.  I'd be happy if cigarettes were gone totally but that is just me.


I understood you perfectly....pull out the military....
and what little stability there is will be gone. I cannot see it going any other way. What exactly do you see happening if we pull the military out? Seriously. What will the insurgents do? What will the sunni and shiite militias do? I am serious...what do you think would happen?
Makes perfectly good sense.....has no
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i'm sure osama has a perfectly good reason for this
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I understood perfectly well how you meant your post..nm
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You ascribe me feelings about people whose name I have never mentioned here.
His book is a bestseller.  Evidently, many many people think he is credible.  The world of credibility does not revolve around you, gt.
I've got mixed feelings, too, Democrat.

I've never walked in their boots, and I can't imagine what it must be like to wonder if every single next step you take might be your last, especially if a soldier is completely worn out, physically, mentally and emotionally because he or she is forced to do multiple tours. 


I can't imagine what it might be like to see one or more of your buddies killed by a group of people who don't abide by the rules of war.  I can't imagine how long I'd be in a position like that before I would simply snap and go beserk.


These young people must be stretched beyond any human limit, and although I don't condone it or agree with it, at the same time, there's no way in my heart that I can condemn them. 


The military can punish them all they want.  But if these young Iraqi War soldiers are anything like the Vietnam War veterans I personally know, I can promise you that there is no prison more painful and punitive than their own personal prisons that their minds, hearts, bodies and souls inhabit. 


We don't know for sure that these soldiers weren't following orders.  They have a commander-in-chief who favors torture, so anything is possible.  Deep in my heart, I feel these soldiers are just being used scapegoats to protect those in the highest of command who gave the orders they followed.


I constantly condemn this war and the lies and liars that led to it, but I find it impossible to feel any ill feelings towards these soldiers for actions that may very well have been orders they were obeying from higher-ups.  I also can't condemn them if they just *snapped.*  A human being can only take so much, and I believe these poor soldiers have been stretched way beyond what most humans could endure.


She apparently had no hard feelings. She supported
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Okay, no hard feelings. I had to leave for a while but I'm baaaaaack. LOL

I wasn't sure on that since you posted under my message.


Did the bad cartoon hurt your wittle feelings?
Ugh, get over it already.
Feelings, goals, interests, families...
yes. Normal no. Tolerance is far different than acceptance. I and no one in my huge family has ever harmed a person who indulges in homosexual acts. We are as tolerant as you can get as I imagine millions of others are. Just saying that homosexuality is wrong is construed to be intolerance or verbal abuse by the homosexual community.
Only drive-bys seem to be ruining perfectly adult conversations

We all were having good conversations and even adult disagreements until the usual drive-by suspects chimed in and make is a potty-mouth bash fest.  Democrat might have lost control a little bit, but we all do at some point.    You did your usual leftist troll duties by coming here and sabatoging and decent debates in process.  You are not a liberal.  You are someone who is so filled with hate that you cannot stand when conservatives and liberals are actually dialoguing.  Yeah, it gets heated, but you are not mature enough nor do you have substance enough to tolerate adult conversation.  You are a dive bomber, and you are the reason we have to be separated.


You and your minions are pretty sad people indeed.


Not worth wasting perfectly good words on.
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Hypothetical, rhetorical questions, perfectly fine.
posing what can easily be construed as scripted questions are open to challenge. Dreams? Of course. Intent? Where is he now? Which American dream is the REAL, bona fide Joe the Plumber dream? If wanting to get to the truth is your idea of attack, so be it...but don't expect me or any of the other voters who are disgusted by the hypocrisy that underpins JTP and his exploitation by a desperate campaign which is obsessed with negativity, gloom, doom, Armageddon, character assassination, inciting cultural warfare and turns a blind eye to rampant racism and bigotry to play that game and accept the mantle as the oppressors. BTW, hypocrisy, half-truths, misrepresentations, slurs, unfounded accusations and the like have a way of exposing themselves showing their tru colors. Try debating honest campaign issues and you may be surprised with what you get in return.