That's why Fox news rating are skyrocketing with MSNBC and CNN are going down fast
Posted By: I just gotta be me on 2009-02-27
In Reply to: Yeah, we need conservative radio shows to give any - balance at all! nm
Fox News - 1,217,000
CNN - 633,000
MSNBC - 482,000
I was surprised to see that CNN has more viewers than MSNBC. Fox news gives you the news and tells you everything - both sides. The other two don't. They just feed you garbage all day.
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His ratings are skyrocketing! Liberal news is losing
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CNN, Fx, MSNBC 1, 2 days behind internet news.
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If MSNBC is such a great news outlet...
why do these numbers tell the truth about what people watch?
CABLE NEWS RACE
TUES. JAN 6, 2009
FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2,747,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY/COLMES 1,913,000
FOXNEWS SHEP SMITH 1,754,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 1,377,000
CNN KING 1,373,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,308,000
CNNHN GRACE 1,264,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,169,000
CNN COOPER 1,035,000
Watching real news, not MSNBC, or even CNN
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Not so fast!!!!!!
I understand where you're coming from but really...do you REALLY think now days abortion is just because men want a woman to have one? Women are more permiscuous than ever, starting at younger and younger ages, and THEY don't want a child.
I knew of a woman back in the early 70's when abortion was legal on in a couple of states. She had just started college, found out she was pregnant. The man she said was the father begged her to marry him...he wanted to take responsibility but she didn't want to lose her scholarship. Lose a scholarship....murder a child. What a decision to make!! No, I don't always blame the men because I witnessed a very selfish woman who could have cared less. She came from a family who thought they were on the high social ladder as did she, and she certainly wasn't going to waste her time with a baby!!! She had more important things to do BUT I may add, she certainly didn't waste any time making her rounds with the guys back at college. So, please keep in mind, there really are a lot of women who really do not see it as that important an issue. They too just want to have fun and not deal with the consequences either.
Not so fast....
Palin was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party. I can find no credible evidence that she supported them or funded them. She did address their convention, but then Obama addressed the convention for ACORN.
From The New York Times: Alaskan Independence Party officials released a statement Monday saying that Ms. Palin had been a member for two years, from 1994 to 1996, information included in reports in The New York Times and other news outlets. In Internet videos of recent party meetings, other party officials can be seen boasting of Ms. Palin’s past membership.
On Tuesday, though, the party’s chairwoman, Lynette Clark, said the earlier statement was false. Ms. Clark said that she had based it on information another party member had given her, but that a review of the records showed only that Ms. Palin had attended the 1994 conference.
Ms. Clark added that while the review confirmed Todd Palin as a member, it did not indicate that Ms. Palin had been one.
On Wednesday, Ms. Clark released a corrected statement, saying, in part, “I, foolishly, repeated and accepted as fact what an officer of this membership shared with myself, and husband Dexter Clark, over a year ago.”
“I humbly apologize to Governor Palin, and to both national and local press and media,” she added.
Perhaps you did not do enough research?
As to the power and role of the Vice President...what she is talking about IS in the constitution. The Vice President presides over the senate and can be present whenever they are if the VP so wishes. Good for her. SOMEBODY needs to be watching them, I would think this recent financial crisis would tell us that. She is not talking about changing the CONSTITUTION. She is talking about exercising the rights it gives the position. No other VP has been interested in doing so. No reason she...or any VP...shouldn't. Read what the Constitution says about the VP position.
Well....not so fast....
we won't know until election night, I firmly believe that. The polls are closing fast, but I don't put much stock in polls, never have.
Whatever the outcome, if a majority of poor misguided folks vote Obama in...it won't be with my help. Got my yard sign. :-)
Going under fast, aren't they.
Starting to sound a mite peeved:) Look, person - we KNOW some people support this screw-up of a profiteering war. Like you. What don't you get about that? WE KNOW.
Now, tell us YOU KNOW that just as many - to judge by the 300,000 versus the 300, ONE HUNDRED times as many DO NOT support this mess any longer.
Why do you seem to feel that people who agree with you are somehow PROOF that yours is the only way to think? What are you going to do about the REST of those who do not believe what you do? What are you going to do when soldiers are speaking 100,000 to 1 against the war? You better think about it, because it's shaping up that way.
I bet it will drop as fast as it did
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It's amazing how fast you can backpeddle
You have made some very anti-semetic remarks about the Israeli's, and now you are being called on the carpet about it. You've documented several times with your supporting remarks of the Muslim protestors in Washington (which I've failed to find any reference to besides your obscure article link) that you think Israel and the U.S. are mean murderous tyrannically-governed countries. If you are going to take a side take a side, but your attempt to suddenly appear tolerant in the presence of a Jewish person is VERY disingenous, and I for one don't by it for a second. Pick a side and stick to it. If you don't support Israel then stand by your assertions. If you do support Israel then you need to make yourself a little clearer, because all I see you doing is siding with Hezbollah.
don't back down so fast, other facts about him
ok snopes disputed the rumors, some of the rumors but facts are facts and Barack's 1st cousin is this extremist running Kenya and involved in the genocide....google it for yourself.
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Not about how fast Rome was built....
but how fast it FELL.
I know I'm learning real fast here
I keep seeing posts about how awful the republicans are, blah, blah, blah. Then comes the lies and false statement without any facts. But the minute you put something out there about Obama with a link and reliable sources you get jumped on and called evil. I'll tell ya, makes me think Hitler is still alive and visits this board. HA HA. I've seen the attacks on Sam before so I guess I should have realized this. Guess it just shocked me.
I can't write too fast anymore, but here's what I did get
1. Fiscal Stimulus Plan: Before or after inauguration (sp). Wants to get it moving quickly, but if he has to wait until January 20, so be it, but states he will try during these couple months to push one through now.
2. Retooling assistance plan for automakers for fuel-effieicnt cars. He realizes that the auto industry employs thousands and other companies depend on the auto industry for their jobs. Wants this package done quickly.
3. Review implementaion of plans and not rewarding management for housing problems that are caused.
4. Grow middle class in the long term.
Reporters asked questions but couldn't get them all.
1. He wants to help the states financially.
2. As to going to other countries for conferences: He is developing a team and weighing all his options. Iran's nuclear weapons are unacceptable along with the militants. This has to cease. It's not something he can do in a knee-jerk fashion and wants to be careful (not to p--s them off).
3. Tax plan: 95% of WORKING Americans will get it. His first goal is tax relief for struggling families and to build the economy from the bottom up.
That's all I could get.
Not so fast Mrs. M.....Democrats started
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the problem with responding too fast
...is that you end up leaving out important phrases!
The $72 an hour figure quoted in the article, I should have said, isn't made of *just* the wages and benefits of current employees--it's also including those paid to retired workers, the ones who paid into the retirement fund their whole lives, and are now living off those benefits.
In other words, you take the wages/benefits paid to the current 180,000 or so autoworkers, PLUS those paid to the 400,000 or so retirees and the 120,000 spouses of dead retirees, then divide that by the 180,000 current workers, then say, LOOK HOW MUCH THOSE GUYS GET PAID! It's an incredibly artifically inflated number.
And noooo one in the media ever seems to question it.
Not so fast. Comparative drug use exercise.
There is a distinction between these two types of cocaine/crack use, as expressed in a medical study entitled "Crack cocaine and cocaine hydrochloride: Are the differences myth or reality?"
http://www.cocaine.org/crack/index.html
"...evidence exists showing a greater abuse liability, greater propensity for dependence, and more severe consequences when cocaine is smoked (cocaine-base) or injected intravenously (cocaine hydrochloride) compared with intranasal use (cocaine hydrochloride)." There is also evidence that crack cocaine use is linked to a higher incidence crime/violent crime than the use of "blow." Next time you set out to assasignate someone's character, remember you will be a whole lot more credible with (a) a little more research, and (b) a little less exaggeration.
Obama did not quantify his use in the book. He only defined the time span as sometime during his high school senior year until he arrived in New York to attend Columbia University, to include his 2 years at Occidental College (1979-1981). This would mean that he experimented with drugs at ages 17, 18 and 19 while in his teens. He decided to stop the drug use on his own accord. He then turned around and wrote about this experience in his first book, "Dreams From My Father," which started out as a commissioned book on race relations that later evolved into an autobiography. He began writing the book in 1990 and it was published in mid 1995, a year before he ran for office. It is worth noting that he was not forced to include this information in the book....he chose to. He disclosed one of his "greatest regrets," (his words) within the context of an honest, sincere, and direct expression of its (drug use) relationship to race relations and biographical information. Political agenda does not seem to be the motivation.
Cindy McCain's addiction ensued at the adult age of 35, nine years into her marriage, as a mother of three children, ages 5, 3 and 1. Her addiction spanned 3 years, about the same as Obama's "experimental" use. However, her disclosure (even to her husband) was not voluntary. John McCain was informed of her addiction during a forced (birth) family intervention, who then at the ripe adult age of 52, proceeded to engineer the "diversion program" cover-up/escape of criminal charges as described in the other post and in the midst of an active DEA investigation and pending criminal trial.
Aside from the drug addiction, involving an AVMT MD in providing her with illegal prescriptions and stealing drugs, it seems that there were a few more fires John McCain sought to extinguish. Seems she had approached a member of AVMT's voluntary medical team, demanding that he commit perjury in adoption proceedings of her Bangladeshi baby daughter and had attempted to "prevent" a former foundation employee from giving accurate information to the DEA during it's investigation. Further allegations were made that Cindy had abused her husband's office and diplomatic privileges by transporting illegal substances overseas. Of course, none of these issues were ever formally aired during court proceedings, since John McCain was able to succeed in "diverting" this embarrassing disaster.
So let's see, she comes clean to her husband under the threat of criminal charges, public humiliation and the tangible possibility of ruining her husband's career and is okay with having other people perjure themselves to gain approval for bringing a 4th child/infant into the mix of the not-so-remote drug addiction. Looks like the money and political clout has served her well in staying out of prison, bypassing adoption standards and abusing her own authority over foundation MDs and employees. Also looks like her disclosure did have elements of political agenda as she sought to save her own behind.
Drug use is drug use. But age, context, duration, type, criminality and injury to other parties are also part of this picture. It is not hard to figure out where Obama's policies come from with regard to medical treatment versus incarceration for first-time users and/or non-violent drug offenses. On the other hand, where John McCain's lock-'em-down and shun-'em drug policies defy logic and fly in the face of how he decided to handle the situation when it was HIS house, HIS wife, HIS job and HIS future on the line.
No offense taken. Rumors spread so fast, especially ...sm
bad rumors intended to scare and manipulate people. I think the excitement of the people at his rallies is because they see him as someone who offers the common people hope. He has never addressed or dwelled on any of the many, many rumors being spread about him. I believe he is an upstanding American citizen, a Christian, who has a lovely wife and family and is nothing like what the right wing of the republican party is painting him to be. Keep praying on it but don't get taken in by people who are not so Christian themselves.
Woohoo...change is coming fast and furious.
President Obama just announced that the pay of top White House employees is being frozen. The Associated Press says it will affect those in positions paying more than $100,000 a year.
"All of you are committed to building a more responsible government," Obama told top staff at a meeting now underway at the White House.
"Families are tightening their belts and so should Washington," Obama added.
The president also announced he's about to sign new ethics rules designed to restrict lobbying by current staff after they leave the administration.
What does an 80% rating really mean? sm
In response to threads from below:
OK. If you choose to use an 80% stamp of approval from a state whose population is slightly under that of Austin, Texas as some kind of leverage to argue in favor of what's-her-name, go for it. It means about as much to me as Obama's 80% approval rating in Europe means to you. All you are doing is preaching to the choir.
Obama followers will continue to illustrate the zillions of ways this woman is not our idea of leadership. It will have very little to do with who does or does not approve of her. It has to do with the difference in the issues that are the underpinnings of NeoCon versus democratic values. McCain did my party a big favor when he decided to put a token woman in that spot after meeting with her once or twice and deciding she is a younger version of himself...someone who he thinks can bring Hillary supporters into the fold while at the same time energizing his conservative base. It's like my man said...John McCain just does not get it...and neither do you.
She is Pro-life, promotes creationism over evolution, thinks global warming is not a man-made problem, anti-gun control, is on record against fair pay for women, thinks Hillary is a whiner like McCain thinks American economic refugees are whiners, has accepted the nomination as a token female pawn in McCain's political games while thinking she will be advancing her own anemic political career, is under a state ethics committee investigation while portraying herself as the ethics clean-up maiden, supported the bridge to nowhere before it became more political capitol for her to oppose it, etc....and this is what we are hearing after only 24 hours.
That is why Obama supporters will energize themselves the way you see them doing here and oppose this ticket on any and all levels of opportunities as they present themselves. An 80% approval rating against all this is a really weak, limp, lame claim to fame. Got it?
YEP, that is why their approval rating is ....
GASSSSPPPPPP lower than...omg no say it ain't so......BUSH'S. ROFL.
80% approval rating
Because Alaska is full of A-holes, like 50% of this country.
Yep, his approval rating is low.
But the democratic Congress is lower after just 2 years.
If we had such a low job performance rating...
we'd be in the umemployment line.
They only have a 9% approval rating...way to go! nm
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How can you have a high rating without doing anything yet?
Oh, I forgot. Dems + hook + line + sinker = Fauxbama for Prez.
Change, change, change.
Hope, hope, hope.
Bull, bull, bull.
The 80% approval rating was for....(sm)
how he was handling the transition.
His approval rating is 63%
Obviously everybody else in the country likes him and thinks he is doing a good job.
The one on this board only come here to gripe, because obviously the other 27% (hmmm....could they be the ones who approved of Bush - wasn't that HIS approval rating at the end??) are MTs and come to this board.
By reading this nonsense, you would think the rest of the country sided with them. Glad to know it's not true!
Well, since his DISAPPROVAL rating has gone from 12 to 31...
Looks like actually they're a rapidly GROWING breed, wouldn't ya say?
obama rating
Most of you seem to feel that in the next election Obama will have a hard time being re-elected. I just don't agree with that thinking. For one thing, if Acorn is going to be in charge of census taking, he will be a shoe-in. As well, Obama will be awarded the African-American vote as he was in 2008.
To counter the DNC assertion that only McCain plays fast and loose with the truth...
apparently he is not alone.
HMMM...check THIS out...
http://obamalies.net/
YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS ONE....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S5StlCcv84&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4&feature=related
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/05/documented-lie-50-obama-claimed-he-had.html
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY5CQnOn75c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKlQSNN2zo&NR=1
whoops, typing too fast and made errors .. be 4 the spelling police get me
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She has an 80% approval rating in Alaska...
to me that indicates that the voters who put her there are very happy they put her there. THat includes Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.
The man was corrupt. She got rid of corruption. Most Presidents when they go into the job, as well as most governors, "clean house" when they go into office, whether they are corrupt or not. You act like that is something that is "not done." Good grief.
My bias is showing? Now THAT is rich. LOL.
Okay...first, what an elitist comment. A tiny Alaska community? Those people don't count? Well you certainly relegated them to the back back back burner didn't you? Tell me again how important the "little" people are! She has 12 months of actual executive experience. Obama has none. She is going to be second chair, not first. She has an 80% approval rating...Obama never HAS had that, except from NARAL, who gave him 100%. I would say that her constituents are happier with her than Obama's were with him.
I think she is ready for the "big boys." Let's see how she does in the debates with Biden.
Why is it that Democrats laud democratic whistleblowers and diss Republican ones??
Unless McCain dies or incapacitated, she won't be getting that 3:00 call. But since you brought it up...this little person has a question about that 3:00 call. Is Obama going to call Joe Biden on the other line???
Why did Palin have any over 80% approval rating?
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Well that most recent 67% approval rating
How credible do you think you are by passing judgment on Obama administration 6 weeks before he is even sworn into office?
Yep, they actually have a lower approval rating than
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She has an 80% approval rating in Alaska...
so obviously "most" of the people in Alaska do not agree.
I have seen her very low and still slipping approval rating, YES nm
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Hte to break this to you, but the rating numbers
say NOTHING about where millions and millions and millions of Americans really go for their news. The internet has given us access to global media. MSNBC is still mainstream and, as a leftie, I can tell you that I find their coverage almost as frustrating as CNN and Fixed News. I need the much broader perspective found on local, national and international English-speaking radio talk shows and news accounts from outside the homeland borders found on the net.
I suspect I'm not the only one, considering the numbers reflected in these ratings are so puny when compared to the actual number of adult US citizens who have soundly rejected US monovision mainstream media outlets all together. Then there is the other side of the coin, those Americans who do not listen to the news at all because mainstream is SUCH a turn-off.
With a 37% approval rating, I daresay
these are *embittered partisan protests.* So, maybe you aren't proud, but I still do not feel my *indignation* is misplaced. You are the one thinking partisan.
Obama's approval rating............ sm
According to the RPC, Obama's overall approval rating has slipped to just slightly over 60% and Congress' approval rating is at a whopping 33.3% and 61.2% of those polled feel that this country is on the wrong track.
Just thought I'd share that bit of dismal news.
That wasn't an approval rating, it was desperation
When an economic recession is looming, people become scared and will do just about anything hoping things will turn around...... that is the only reason Obama got the vote, that and a few states that haven't a clue about what it's like paying for lazy baby makers and their daddies all day long....
Flame all you want!!!!
Yeah, poor Sarah and her 80% approval rating.
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Gallup Poll shows a 62-67% approval rating.......nm
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MSNBC
I see it very differently. Chris Mathews is a big ole softy who loves, loves, loves this country. Keith O has a twinkle in his eye and assumes the viewers are well informed. They both seem to love their jobs and relish discussing politics. They are my absolute favorites.
MSNBC
I really like their commentators. I do think they are pro Obama, but not rabidly so. Rachel has criticized the Obama campaign at times. Pat Buchanan certainly is not pro democrat. Joe Scar is not pro Obama. I get good information from the pro-O commentators and a balanced viewpoint from the Repub commentators. The commentators have been in politics for years, so they point out things I might not have thought about. I like Keith O's humor. When he presents information he gives sources and verification for it. When he is wrong, he corrects himself. While I was listening to John McC last night, my mind started to wander. I remembered then why I used to find politics so boring. Remember Dole? I think Obama brings energy to politics and makes it worth paying attention to.
I don't believe anything MSNBC says.
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MSNBC is not as far as it gets because
they are still a part of the major outlet news conglomerates. You want real left reporting, check out Pacifica.
From what CNN and MSNBC
create enough jobs. Our kids and grandkids will be in debt and so much more negativity.
endless war - msnbc
Good article under world news MSNBC online site. Frightening. Michael Scheuer, ex CIA analyst states "rather than move forward towards solutions, the US took a big step backward by invading Iraq". He states the US has a willingful blindness to what needs to be done: Withdraw our troops from the Middle East, end unqualified support for Israel, sever close ties to Arab oil state tyrannies. Bruce Hoffman, veteran RAND Corp specialist fears an endless war and dismisses talk of Al Qaida's back having been broken by the capture of some leaders. He and a half dozen other terrorist experts say the worlds richer powers must address the underlying causes - lessen the appeal of radicalism by improving economies, political rights and education. Bush, et al, you have entered into a predicament that has no good outcome. If this isnt a reason to impeach him, I dont know what is. He ought to be tarred and feathered in town square.
I saw it on MSNBC this week.
I had seen this commercial before, I believe on the Daily Show (Colbert Report maybe?), and I thought it was one of their jokes. I was amazed to find out it's real!
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