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The big green businesses are already overseas.......

Posted By: we buy THEIR goods......nm on 2009-03-16
In Reply to: I think most of us know... - Zville MT

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Dont you get it?! Businesses WILL go overseas
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Jobs going overseas
I forgot to mention - as MSMT said in her post titled "It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's wrong with the economy" - it stated on yahoo was an article about the layoffs at Dell in Austin.

"Everyone in the room was fired, their jobs shipped overseas".

That's one instance.

I'm taking an online course and 6 students wrote in stating they need to get retrained because they just lost their jobs within the last month. Their job went overseas.


Unlawful donors from overseas????











Watchdog Group Presses for Obama Donor List









Judicial Watch contends that the Obama campaign continues to stonewall on listing its many donors, a step that would go a long way toward clearing up whether the Democratic presidential candidate is accepting unlawful contributions from overseas.



Sen. Barack Obama has raised about $3.3 million from contributors who did not list a home state or who designated their state with an abbreviation that did not match one of the 50 states or U.S. territories, The Associated Press reported, citing records from the Federal Election Commission.



The $3.3 million total does not include donors who have given less than $200 and whose contributions do not have to be itemized. Some of that money also could have come from overseas. About half of Obama's $455 million in contributions so far are un-itemized.


The campaign does not identify those donors, the AP report said.



Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said, “While the evidence suggests illegal foreign contributions are flooding into Obama's campaign coffers, we have no idea as to the extent of the problem because Senator Obama refuses to divulge the names of all of his donors.”



Fitton said that, when Obama campaign spokesman David Axelrod was asked about the decision to keep these donor names secret, he replied, “We’re probably more forthcoming about disclosure than anyone.”



But the president of the watchdog group countered: “Not true. While John McCain has had problems of his own for allegedly accepting foreign donations, to his credit, Senator McCain does publish the names of all donors to his presidential campaign on his Internet site, regardless of the size of the contribution.”



Fitton said he believes that the Obama campaign appears to be playing fast and loose with campaign finance laws, and he said it has to stop.



The FEC should investigate these allegations immediately, and the Obama campaign should publicly list the source of every single campaign contribution, Fitton said.



“Frankly, it is suspicious that these names have not already been made public,” he said. “There is something deeply unsettling about the fact that foreign nationals can so easily corrupt our presidential election through illegal contributions, while American service men and women stationed overseas may be deprived of the opportunity to even vote.”




© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.


http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/donor_obama_watchdog/2008/10/27/144469.html
red or green. I guess everything is all right now.
Now that the election is over.
Green jobs.......... sm
would take quite a bit of time to implement as it would take time to build the utility facilities, not to mention retrofitting households to use green energy. I don't think this is a viable short-term plan to help our country, although I do see a benefit from it long-term. However, in creating green jobs and bankrupting the coal industry like he said he would that creates yet another situation where people will be jobless and not paying taxes. With a good portion of our electric energy coming from the coal industry, this number could be significant enough to offset any benefit obtained with green energy and green jobs.

We are in a financial crisis and I don't see that there is anyway out of it (unless they yank that Golden Fleece) without immediate tax increases on all tax-paying Americans.

Like I said, a plan is just a plan and even with a Democratic Senate, I don't foresee his tax plans coming to fruition in the near future.
Overseas equals cheap labor
It is because labor is cheaper in third world countries, so corporations and their stock holders make more money with dirt cheap labor.  Bush and his group do not care about the middle class, he has proved that over the last..how many years..feels like 40 to me..Right now we are seeing this happen in medical transcription.  The company I work for sends out 30% of the work to India and they have a partnership with the Indian company.  The other day I had to call American Express and could hardly understand the guy his Indian accent was so thick.  They just care about making the rich richer.  Greenspan when interviewed on 60 Minutes said America is becoming the rich and the working poor with no middle class and he said something needs to be done about it..But this is the way many corporations, who just so happen to mostly vote Republican, want it.
I would wager a guess that the troops overseas...sm
have much more pressing matters to attend to, than sending campaign contributions to the various candidates.

The proof will be in the election results, as to who they actually vote for.

The majority of our military would cringe at the thought of a commander in chief who regards them with disrespect (I hear it from my military relatives)

They'll vote for McCain, all the way.
That money will go overseas as long as U.S. citizens keep
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Rolling Stones and Green Day
Someone the other day asked is there a site to listen to the Rolling Stones new song Sweet Neocon.  On Huffingtonpost, there was an article about Green Day and the Rolling Stones singing political songs and it gives a link to listen to a sample of the Stones song and also Green Day's.  If it is still there, it was on the R hand side, quite a way down the page.
Check out Little Green Footballs. sm
They have the pictures and some animated comparisons that are pretty good. 
What on God's green earth makes

you call her a Bimbo.  This isn't some anorexic model.  This is a woman who once participated in a beauty pageant.  I just do not see how that disqualifies her as capable for this job.  She has been married for, I think, 20 years....which in this day in age is GREAT!!!  She has 5 kids.  She has an 80% approval rating as governor.  If you truly refuse to even look into her and what she stands for just because she is an attractive women.....well....I'm sorry but that just leads me thing these ramblings are coming from an envious unattractive person.  If you don't like Palin....fine.  But give us a better reason than because she was in a beauty pageant and she is pretty.  That is absolutely the most ignorant reason to not vote for someone.  That would be like someone not voting for Obama just because he is black.....just plain stupid.  That is superficial thinking.  Talk about judging a book by its cover.  Oh no...Palin is pretty....can't vote for her..she must be a bimbo.  DUMB DUMB DUMB!


I think a lot of the naysayers or just plain green...
She's got so much going for her, and you all are so jealous of her, that you just can't stop yourselves from been mean with green envy.

She's got it all.....she knew how to make it happen for herself, and just went and did it.

Not even can say that, now can they?
Green with NAUSEA is more accurate.
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LMAO. I do not like green eggs and ham

If Obama is a monkey, Michelle looks more like a gorilla.


The problem with his green jobs
The problem with these jobs is that they would be completely paid for by the government. The reason these jobs do not exist at the moment is that they are unprofitable. If there was a profit to be made some company would have jumped on it already. So what he would be doing would be to create a huge government-run and taxpayer-financed company that would take years to ever even possibly turn a profit and there is no guarantee it would. EVER.

I'm getting a little off track here, but consider this. Right now the government subsidizes mandatory recycling programs in many areas. So they run extra trucks, using extra fuel and creating extra pollution and, unfortunately what most people do not realize is that the items collected are dumped somewhere. The vast majority are NOT recycled, because it is not cost-efficient. The dirty little secret is that most of this ends up in a landfill.

So the government's intentions are good, but they choose to turn a blind eye to the truth.

and I prefer the ganja green tea.....nm
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Soylent Green is people!
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Please be right about taxing companies that send buisness overseas.
Wouldn't that be a jolt to the economy? I'd bet it would bring back at least half of the jobs lost to Mexico, India, and China. MTs would sure be in a slightly better position if it cost MTSOs more money to do business outside of the US than in it.

That would be a bill I would support - as long as they didn't attack so much pork to it!
In order to curtail shipping jobs overseas

our F.L. must first crack the whip on Congress, who are the ones that can change tax codes to make offshoring less profitable.   ''Yes we can'' will have to take a back seat as long as special interests can spread around enough dough to Congress to buy ''Oh no you can't!'' 


I'm no Obama fan, but don't we all realize that presidential candidates run on a wish list of items they would like to implement, knowing that they will never be permitted to accomplish many of these things?  But, gosh darn it, they still get credit for trying real hard! 


Obama may believe he has a Dem-majority congress firmly in hand, but these guys count on campaign money for re-election.  And that money is, for the most part, donated by business interests.  The businesses certainly do not consider these to be charitable gifts, but investments in obtaining legislative outcomes that work for them. 


Obama has, at most, one presidential re-election to worry about.  Congressmen can run for unlimited terms and have to make very long-range calculations before they dare to offend offshoring companies by closing tax loopholes that make it better for them to offshore than not. 


Thanks to Obama? Get Real. He didn't send jobs overseas....
Most MT companies will not offshore work. Most hospitals and large clinics DEMAND that their work not be sent overseas. Unfortunately, you have those that LIE and I worked for an MT company that sent overload work to India. It was indeed, unfortunate, as the quality was horrible. But, I've trained plenty of MTs who were just as bad with "supposed" experience. They could pass a test, they just couldn't work accurately consistently. I blame that on the "production pay system." I learned MT when they used to respect you and paid you by the hour. There was no demand on HOW MUCH as long as it was COMPLETELY accurate.
Lee Green did not monitor the elections, Jimmy Carter did.
Lee Green is the director of CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy on Middle East Reporting) which is a Pro-Israeli American Media Monitor. I prefer to read a book and make up my own mind and certainly am not surprised that Zionist critics would hate Carter and the truths he exposed in his book. They can protest to their heart's content, but they can't turn lies into truth.
oh yea - good point - bringing our medical records back from overseas
Never thought of that one.
Those "small" businesses are the mom and pop...
type who don't have many employees. The small businesses who will be hurt by Obama's plan employ 25-100 people. More taxes on them, more capital gains taxes, they will downsize or close and stop investing because they can't afford it. There are thousands of those kinds of businesses across this country and they employ a significant number of people. It is not just the business owners who suffer....it is the people they employ.
We are not a nation of businesses.
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Obama will CAUSE more businesses to go
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Big businesses........well they wouldn't have to
if we'd stop taxing the crap out of them. This country taxes the crap out of businesses at an alarming rate, when they can go to places like Ireland and have an 11% tax rate. They go to other countries where they don't have to pay those ridiculous taxes. That's the entire problem here. MORE TAXES! Those companies that do stay here, in order to cover their HIGH TAXES, charge you more to cover it for them. That's the point some of us have been trying to make. Obama wants to raise their taxes and I can guarantee you those that are still here will be gone in a flash. YOu get stuck on this big business hiring cheap labor. Well, they would be hiring you if your government would stop taxing the crap out of them.

That's what McCain has said during this entire campaign. STOP TAXING THE CRAP OUT OF THEM and stop running them off and we'll have more jobs brought back here. OBama says TAX TAX TAX them some more and they'll help pay for all of us. BULL!!! Those corporations won't pay him taxes. They up the cost of products and we pay it for them. Obama knows that. This man is a crook through and through....believe what you want. You darn right businesses want huge tax breaks? Wouldn't you? Oh well, maybe not. After all, O lovers love more taxes.

If you're so worried about the little guy who pays too much for his goods, then why not ask Obama why he wants to raise taxes on those very businesses who will turn right around and put them off on you, making everything you buy even higher!


And since you're so down on the big businesses, though I'm not sure what you call big business, who do you think hires everyone else? Poor people? You won't have to worry about the unemployment rate if O gets in there. He'll have taxed and mandated them right out of business and out of this country. The businesses that WILL be hurt are the very businesses you count on day to day and you don't even know who they are. I do. My husband works for one of them. They don't have a big name but they are the very reason you have your grocery store shelves with food on them and many other products. People that think like you don't have a clue all the businesses you use every day that are NOT rich, but they help sustain the very community you live in. They can employ anywhere from 10-200 people and believe me, that is NOT a RICH business but Obama will tax the businesses right out of business. They cannot afford all those mandates and garbage policies he wants to throw in there.

The florist in your town. Well, they're gonna close. They would fall into that MEAN RICH BUNCH all of you hate so much, as well as so many other companies you depend on every day. You've just got your mind so focused on the hugely large corporations, you can't see past that.

Well, when your town starts laying off hundreds at a time from all those businesses you thought you detested but then realize too late those aren't the ones you were thinking about, maybe you'll see it differently then.

Everyone is so focused on all the Wall Street crowd, they have failed to realize that crowd won't be hurting at all. You will and all those businesses that keep you and your community alive and well.

This is the fault of dems and republicans alike, not just one side.

You want to talk shafted, just wait till your local A/C guy can't even run his business because Obama has deemed him "RICH".

Right, Sam! If businesses are taxed more, they are
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Oh, and BTW, $250K is not wealthy businesses

They're middle of the road, just making it businesses. They don't employ 3000 people like big business and they will be hurt the most. Big business will pass the tax increase onto the taxpayers. They'll be able to find loopholes with their 30+ laywers (exageration) who are paid to do that.


Wake up and take the blinders off!


Maybe if small businesses like MT companies

receive a tax credit as a reward/incentive to keep jobs INSIDE the USA, that policy will help American MTs.


That's Obama's policy.


American businesses and individuals should all
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No, mine doesn't, but many small businesses...
including mid range transcription business who operate as S corporations, the entire income from their business is in that bracket and taxed as personal income. It is going to hit small businesses extremely hard. And I don't think it is fair that they have to pick up the tab to pay for tax CUTS for people who are already in the lowest bracket. I don't think that's right, I don't think that is fair, and it will result in businesses closing or laying off workers. So tell me what pray tell does that accomplish?
A government that taxes businesses into the ground...
is a main cause of offshoring. It costs more in taxes to do business in America than any other country in the world save one. And Obama wants to tax them even more, even the small business owners of the S corporation type. In order to fund a cut in tax for the people already in the lowest bracket who pay the lowest amount anyway. Thereby causing more small businesses to fail or cut back on staffing...causing more job loss instead of job creation. Sorry...that makes no sense to me.
Capitalism is when private owners run businesses
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Obama wants to grow small businesses

I can stick my head in the sand and pretend I don't know what this garbage is all about but anyone with half a brain would know you can't grow a business when you continue to pay pay pay through the nose AND give it to someone who has no motivation to do crap with their life.  


blame it on businesses who won't clean up their trash..................NM
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Obama wants to give small businesses tax relief not...sm
raise their taxes. He wants taxes raised on large corporations who are making record profits, paying their executives millions in salaries and perks per year. Also you will find that most companies offshore to countries where they pay pennies on the dollar to workers rather than pay Americans a living wage. These countries are happy not to charge them high taxes because those few pennies feed their people.
Not in time for Chrysler, its employees, downstream businesses
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So businesses can use foreign labor for their products and services? nm
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With the stimulus package there are built in tax credits for small businesses and SBA...sm
I have worked in retail as an assistant buyer and see their profit margins...and I know there are many legit, honest, mom and pop stores, but they usually make up for it by hiring school kids for slave wages and also family members. I am talking about across the board, in factories, retail, hospitalitiy, techno, every sector, these workers would all be paying more EACH WEEK into the the tax stucture in this country, strengtheing our reserves, becomeing consumers themselves because they can finally afford something....I feel like I dropped from another planet here, or industry in MT is not the norm by far.
What dribble and so uninformed, he isn't taking money from small businesses, geez.
Common sense should tell you he is not saying he is taking the money from small business to give to the the middle class.

he is saying he wants to tax fairly the wealthy (businesses over 250,000) and probably take some of the loop holes away. Lower the middle class taxes (if there is one anymore) so we can breathe. Former statesmen have said it is dangerous to put all the money in so few hands, it develops corruption. Don't just read the headlines, read between, on top, in depth, etc. McCain jumped on that statement to win votes. He is wealthy, what makes you think he understands you? The reason our jobs are going overseas is the present adminstration has given all these corporations tax breaks to do so - saying it builds global democracy - it didn't work, it just made the corporations richer). i don't care who you vote for but Ms. Piggy would be better than McCain and dum, DE dum dum.

Yet we get on this board and moan and whine about not getting paid enough and companies are spening millions buying other transcription companies over our backs you think taxing them fairly is socialism.

I am through with this board, it is sad so many want 4 more years of the same. Keep working for pennies while benefits are taken from you, lines per are decreased. Do you think getting less for voice is fair when it takes almost the same amount of time to do it and make half? Do you think the company is taking that much of a hit? Yet they are forcing it so it most be a benefit to them. They are laughing all the way to the bank while you eat the feathers.