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I think a lot of the naysayers or just plain green...

Posted By: with envy on 2008-09-12
In Reply to: Lots of folks DO hate her. Something underneath all the - smiles, the up-do, and the glasses

She's got so much going for her, and you all are so jealous of her, that you just can't stop yourselves from been mean with green envy.

She's got it all.....she knew how to make it happen for herself, and just went and did it.

Not even can say that, now can they?


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red or green. I guess everything is all right now.
Now that the election is over.
Green jobs.......... sm
would take quite a bit of time to implement as it would take time to build the utility facilities, not to mention retrofitting households to use green energy. I don't think this is a viable short-term plan to help our country, although I do see a benefit from it long-term. However, in creating green jobs and bankrupting the coal industry like he said he would that creates yet another situation where people will be jobless and not paying taxes. With a good portion of our electric energy coming from the coal industry, this number could be significant enough to offset any benefit obtained with green energy and green jobs.

We are in a financial crisis and I don't see that there is anyway out of it (unless they yank that Golden Fleece) without immediate tax increases on all tax-paying Americans.

Like I said, a plan is just a plan and even with a Democratic Senate, I don't foresee his tax plans coming to fruition in the near future.
Rolling Stones and Green Day
Someone the other day asked is there a site to listen to the Rolling Stones new song Sweet Neocon.  On Huffingtonpost, there was an article about Green Day and the Rolling Stones singing political songs and it gives a link to listen to a sample of the Stones song and also Green Day's.  If it is still there, it was on the R hand side, quite a way down the page.
Check out Little Green Footballs. sm
They have the pictures and some animated comparisons that are pretty good. 
What on God's green earth makes

you call her a Bimbo.  This isn't some anorexic model.  This is a woman who once participated in a beauty pageant.  I just do not see how that disqualifies her as capable for this job.  She has been married for, I think, 20 years....which in this day in age is GREAT!!!  She has 5 kids.  She has an 80% approval rating as governor.  If you truly refuse to even look into her and what she stands for just because she is an attractive women.....well....I'm sorry but that just leads me thing these ramblings are coming from an envious unattractive person.  If you don't like Palin....fine.  But give us a better reason than because she was in a beauty pageant and she is pretty.  That is absolutely the most ignorant reason to not vote for someone.  That would be like someone not voting for Obama just because he is black.....just plain stupid.  That is superficial thinking.  Talk about judging a book by its cover.  Oh no...Palin is pretty....can't vote for her..she must be a bimbo.  DUMB DUMB DUMB!


Green with NAUSEA is more accurate.
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LMAO. I do not like green eggs and ham

If Obama is a monkey, Michelle looks more like a gorilla.


The problem with his green jobs
The problem with these jobs is that they would be completely paid for by the government. The reason these jobs do not exist at the moment is that they are unprofitable. If there was a profit to be made some company would have jumped on it already. So what he would be doing would be to create a huge government-run and taxpayer-financed company that would take years to ever even possibly turn a profit and there is no guarantee it would. EVER.

I'm getting a little off track here, but consider this. Right now the government subsidizes mandatory recycling programs in many areas. So they run extra trucks, using extra fuel and creating extra pollution and, unfortunately what most people do not realize is that the items collected are dumped somewhere. The vast majority are NOT recycled, because it is not cost-efficient. The dirty little secret is that most of this ends up in a landfill.

So the government's intentions are good, but they choose to turn a blind eye to the truth.

The big green businesses are already overseas.......
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and I prefer the ganja green tea.....nm
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Soylent Green is people!
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Lee Green did not monitor the elections, Jimmy Carter did.
Lee Green is the director of CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy on Middle East Reporting) which is a Pro-Israeli American Media Monitor. I prefer to read a book and make up my own mind and certainly am not surprised that Zionist critics would hate Carter and the truths he exposed in his book. They can protest to their heart's content, but they can't turn lies into truth.
They can't, sam, or just plain don't want to. nm
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And you are just plain genious - right??? sm
Widge, I was as nonconfrontational as not to even post my opinion under your comment to heartsick, and I'm the dingbat just because you don't like my opinion. LOL. Go for something more original next time.

Seriously, you are not the only person I have heard say that, or else I would not have paid it much attention. That statement has become government policy, rhetoric, whatever you want to call it on Iraq, which would be agreeable if it were directed to our efforts against the Taliban in Afghanistan. The people who attacked us on 9-11 followed us into Iraq, not the other way around. You were there in the beginning so you know that is true.

The jury is still out on whether Iraq is a safer and better place as a result of the war, but I hope you are right.

It may come as a surprise to you, but I don't want us to up and leave the Iraqi people stranded either. We owe them more than that, even though we have given much already. I don't want two generations from now to be fighting a stagnant war in Iraq either. The other points you brought up are either debatable or agreed.


Sam, you are just plain wrong. That is just...sm
more republican propaganda.
There's plain ol' rich, and then there's
Like yer Wall Street execs, bank CEO's, etc. Even worse our this nation's spoiled, mollycoddled pro athletes.

Does any of their wealth trickle down to us? Nope. The more tax breaks and loopholes they get, the more we have to take up the slack and fill in the gaps.

If they can pay a football player $38 million to play a stupid game, then I think those of us who actually work for a living should at least get a few more cents per line.
Now this is just plain ignorant
Of course we'll be taxed REGARDLESS of which figurehead gets put in office.

Get a clue though my friend, the REpublicans are NO friend to the average working JOE (plumber or otherwise). Do you for a New York second think the party who represents the RICH is really going to come to the aid of the middle and lower class? Give that a rest. Democrats are a hair better and that is NOTHING to brag about.

And while you 're at, how about documenting the bill in which you Obama voted to pass - so that we can read the details for ourselves. We can do our own research but if YOU are goign to make claims like this you at least have to tell us thebill in question, and WHERE you got your information.


Plain and simple............
If you're black or minority in this country, you can run your mouth all you want and make racial jokes and say nasty things and we are all supposed to look the other way but if you make a joke or say anything that is remotely considered racial (which is anything when speaking of someone black), then AL Sharpton and every other nutjob comes out of the wood work to run their huge mouths. No one is going to probably do anything about Letterman, because he is a loud mouth liberal piece of crap and Palin seems to be an obsession with him. Why doesn't he make nasty jokes about the Obama girls and see where that gets him. For that matter, why is everyone in such an uproar over the gorilla remark if blacks and liberal whites are allowed to get by with their nasty racial and biased remarks?

Always a double standard! They want their cake and eat it too!
LOL! Either desperate or just plain sloppy.

Are THEY just plain stupid or do they think WE are? 


Not 'scared'. Just plain p!ssed-off, after
watching Dubya and his little friends do more harm to this country and its citizens in 8 years than it will be able to recover from in 20.


And you're just plain rude to her again and again...sm
Didn't the moderator tell you guys to stop it, for like, the umpteenth time this past week?

Leave sam alone, geez.
Gist = Just plain racist.
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This is just plain silly. You are wrong. nm
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but calling someone plain ignorant is okay? whatever!
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Because it's a lie, pure, plain and simple...
We do have free speech but it is wrong to make things up about people. Didn't your mom teach you that? The stuff about Palin and Bush are facts. What you put about Obama being compared to Hitler is trouble making slander and liable and hateful. I won't even respond to you anymore on this board because it gives attention to a person who doesn't deserve it. All I can say is OBAMA WON AND THAT MEANS THE MAJORITY WANTED HIM SO TOUGH NOOGIES.
You're being just plain ridiculous.
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Say what you like, this country is plain giddy
and I am right along with others in Obama being sworn in tomorrow. Even other countries are anticipating the new person being there. Bush has been a disaster for dealing with other nations and I personally am so happy and yes, giddy, that Obama already has such a high rating and as being seen by people who they now feel can perhaps get this country back in shape. People who are still fighting amongst themselves really need to stop and take heed. He is here, the majority are very happy and bashing him is doing no good. I am taking off tomorrow and seeing my new President sworn in!
This is just plain crap - see message
Anytime anyone says anything that doesn't elate the messiah you scream racism.

Statement - "I don't like his policies". Your reply - "your a racist".

Statement - "The people he picked for his cabinet are not qualified" - Your reply - "your a racist".

Statement - "He lied to us in his campaign. Offered us hope but there is no hope." - Your reply - "your a racist".

Statement - "We're tired of him spending money that hasn't even been printed yet". Your reply - "your a racist".

Statement - "It's about time we have someone of a different race in the WH". Your reply - "Right on. I agree with you."

This racist bull is getting old and so untrue, but whenever you can't argue with something you scream racism. GET OVER IT! We have. Enough with this "racism" thing. If you can't bring a conversation then just don't say anything, but please spare me with the racism crap.
Dem, you're just a plain dingbat. What I meant and what

you should have been able to process is that I would rather war not occur on US soil.  Saddam brutally murdered mass numbers of people. I believe he had WMD, but it doesn't matter what I think or what other people think because the proof that he did have WMD was clear with the murder of all those people.  Take a look at some of the few survivors and see that scars that remain.  Oh, and let's not forget about one of his favorite pasttimes, beheading. That sick SOB had connections in several countries and was a serious threat to every single country on the planet.  A person has to be absolutely stupid to think that all going to Iraq was and is about is oil. The people of Iraq are liberated, they're free, they're voting, all things they never dreamed of having under Saddam's rule.  Are there still problems with insurgants? Absolutely. Change doesn't happen overnight, it takes time and that's why our men and women are still there.  Their job isn't done.  If you ask service people what they think, they'll tell you the same thing.  My cousin, by marriage, is a major in the Army, been in the service for 18 years, and knows that it's not time for President Bush to pull the troops out yet.  So, now that I've posted my 2 cents, I'm going to add that I'm not Republican, I'm not Democrat, I don't vote by party, I vote by who I think will get the job done. I mentioned that because I don't want readers thinking that I MUST be a Republican just because of what I posted. 


just plain rude - keep 'em coming
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Obama is just trouble....plain and simple.

There are so many things that I don't agree with him on.  You can't raise taxes for small businesses in this time of crisis.  You can't have all of these government assisted programs and only tax the rich because that won't be enough to cover all the expenses.  He will have to tax us all including the middle  class which he professes to want to help even though "spreading the wealth" will keep us down in the middle class because we won't be able to afford to make it into the upper tax bracket.  Basically his plans are aimed to help the lowlife scum who don't want to work.  As for his healthcare......like Oldtimer said below.....you can't make insurance companies pay for pre-existing conditions like that.  If no one wants to pay for health insurance until they have a major illness.....these insurance companies are supposed to pay for a pre-existing condition when this person is just now paying insurance premiums.  The insurance companies won't have any money to pay out if that is how it will work because no one will want to pay for insurance until something major happens.  It just won't work that way because it can't.


Obama is a socialists through and through.  I'm tired of the media and his supporters ignoring his associations.  I'm tired of people throwing up the race card.  It is just absolutely ridiculous.  Just because I'm a white woman not voting for Obama....that doesn't make me racist.  Yet you never hear about the people voting for Obama just because he is black.....is that not also racist? 


This whole election is just screwed up.  I hope to God that this next debate has something in it worth watching and I hope McCain tears Obama a new butthole! 


Being called gay is an insult, plain and simple.
It's even used in popular slang as an insult, i.e. 'that's gay'. They are NOT accepted in mainstream society or they wouldn't have to be making such a stink right now trying to become accepted. It is deviant behavior, and deviant behavior should not be legal. Whatever you do behind your own closed doors is your business, but that's where it should stay.
Nancy Pelosi is just plain disgusting. How did she
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The essence of their outrage is hijacked by just plain hatred.
hatred of Bush, anything to do with Bush. The mere mention of his name causes the bile to rise and the red mist to engulf them.  They hate, hate, hate.  They blame, blame, blame. It's what they do.  There is no having conversations with them.  They don't see reason. They don't see fairness.  They see nothing but hate.
That is just plain wrong, checked your hateful source
and I find it incendiary
Well, I gotta tell ya - nothing is more creepy to me than Ann Coulter - now that's plain SCARY!

It was a witch hunt plain and simple. But the bad thing about it???
He just commuted their sentences. They will not get their jobs back again because they were not pardoned. I did not know there was a difference, but evidentally there is. So....they might be walking free, but who's going to pay all the bills? And make up for all the missing family times? Not Bush 2 that's for sure. Nor the "Anointed One." He has his own set of problems.

Protocol, etiquette (and plain good sense)

Is there no one advising the prez & co. on protocol and/or etiquette or even basic manners anymore? 


When you bow to a monarch, you are  placing yourself as one of his subjects, or at least as subordinate in rank. 


On the other hand (no pun intended)  when a gentleman meets a lady, (not just a queen) it is proper for him to wait for the woman to initiate contact.  A man waits for the woman to extend her hand for shaking...or not.  And only a dolt of either gender puts his/her arm around somebody to whom s/he has just been introduced.  Puh-leeze!


I know that some adjusments have been made in the business setting, but this does not take the place of knowing the proper thing to do in a social or political situation.  I do not think the rules of manners and civility have changed overnight, have they? 


Now you're just plain rude. To try to belittle someone while spewing hatred.
First, you don't know me. Your insinuating that I have a crutch to fall on (religion). Sorry to debunk your theory but I'm not religious. I don't believe in your god.

Second, I don't listen to any of the leaders. If you've read any of my posts I've always stated I don't trust any of the politicians. I also read a wide variety of articles and I have an open mind and listen to every possibility. When you just pick one side and won't listen to everything you cut yourself off from the truth.

Third, for you to say "the most hideous and evil deeds in history have been done by people like me?" That is just downright rude (and I would say your remarks are hideous and evil, and that's putting it nicely).

You sure are one piece of work. And all because of what? I posted a link with some facts about your candidate you didn't like? This is why I belong to no political party (and no religious party). You'd probably eat it up and praise me if I put something negative about McCain (which I have also done).

I agree with another poster that said intolerance is the worse religion.

I also agree with the moderator who has said no more attacks on people. You need to read that post. After this post you will no longer be in my thoughts.

Hope your proud of your hateful and cruel comments. We all have our opinions. Guess I'm just shocked because this I think has to be one of the worst posts I've read so far. Never knew anyone to be so cruel and evil for them to say such things.
It was a campaign trip abroad, dear sm....plain and simple.
perhaps he accomplished what you say he did, in your eyes. But it was definitely a political trip. A global political trip, no doubt about it.

McCain is ancient history. I'm kinda glad he didn't get elected, as he's shown his true colors of late.


And your third paragraph? Nice try, dear.
au contraire.....what they do on the conservative board is bash the left....plain and simple. I thi
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She took it personally because she was attacked personally. Plain and simple.

Where did you get your debating skills?  On the south side of Chicago in some street gang?  Because if you did, it shows.


In a REAL debate, there is no room or tolerance for personal attacks.  Yet, that's all you people know how to do.  You can't stay on the issue.  You MUST attack the poster personally, claiming to know not only what they think and feel but also claiming to know what every liberal ever thought or did, what they're thinking and doing right now and what they will be thinking and doing for the next 1,000 years.  In fact, you seem to know everything about anything that ever existed on the planet, exists now or will exist into infinity. 


As I (and others) have said repeatedly and you just can't seem to grasp, if you constantly treat people badly, they're not going to want to associate with you.  Lurker was very gracious in her posts to all of you on your board, but even she, in the end, couldn't tolerate your continued, nonstop, personal attacks any more (as she indicated in her responses to the attackers).  If you ever stop knowing it all and become interested in the proper way of debating someone, you could learn a lot from Lurker.  You see, having *thick skin* is only important if you're a thug in a gang somewhere.  It's irrelevant when it comes to treating humans like humans, and in that area, you have a lot to learn. 


As for me, I like to learn from intelligent, friendly people with different political views, so I visit boards where those kinds of people are found.  Not all conservatives are angry, rude, come out swinging and need to personally attack 1,000% of the time.  Some of them are actually quite nice and informative, and they can be found on other forums.  Too bad they can't be found on MTStars.


Have a pleasant evening.