The governor of my state is outraged over this

• Capital hill is being flooded with calls - from the people who are voting no
  • Sadly, some of the senators, if not all, - Backwards typist
    • The governor of my state is outraged over this - garbage package......nm
    • I heard their statements too and - I don't get it.
      • Sure, it's called kissing the butts of some lobbyist.... - sm
  • Here is the Capital Hill - number!
  • Thank God someone has some sense on this board - AMEN.............nm

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the money to the casinos and sports arenas. PA, believe it or not, is off the "50 Worse Roads in the Country" put out by Overdrive magazine every year. We're #3 this year. That's because they rebuilt part of the turnpike.

BTW, roads need tri-axles to do the work. Tri-axle owners have to go through a broker. If the broker has his own trucks, his trucks work, the owners don't. Although a broker is not supposed to use his trucks because of prevailing wages on these jobs unless he pays prevailing wages, they get away with it somehow...one broker used to make up fake lease/owner papers so his trucks could work.  Theyall leave the owner/operators in the dust and cut them out of the jobs. I'm talking from experience.

Rush was just reading actual articles of studies that have been released in the last week.  Are you outraged about the studies, or that Rush was was being funny in saying Bush is killing the poor.

When the left has time to spin the stories I'm sure there will be articles insinuating that Bush is the reason for the poor's obesity problem.  I mean, everything's his fault, right?  That's the satire, but actually there's a lot of truth in it.  If you think that's sick than so be it.  Don't listen or read Rush.  He's been ruffling feathers for years, and millions of people listen to his show, and it's the #1 talk radio show in America.  You can be outraged all you want, but a lot of people agree with him and understand his sense of humor.  At least us Rush fans aren't out making fantasy movies about presidents we would like to see assassinated.  That's truly sick,

Outraged that a handful of Republican politicians would sell out American troops to a bunch of terrorists, even in a symbolic gesture.  Outraged that their lives should be used in a political stunt.  This is very frustrating for me.  I think our lawmakers should support our troops in every way possible, and I believe it's unacceptable to agree to amnesty for anyone who kills our troops. 

We have already far exceeded our budget to the limit because of this needless personal war of George W. Bush.  We provided Iraqis with free medical care.  We will be supplying them with countless more money for decades to come.  Our troops continue to be killed and wounded.  I don't care what the political stakes are.  Under NO CIRCUMSTANCE should their lives be used as pawns any more than they already have been.  For God's sake, don't they deserve the support (regardless of how symbolic it is) from ALL members of the party that sent them there?

I posted comments by two lawmakers regarding this, but you didn't choose to address the content of what I posted.  I've noticed that happens a lot on these boards.  When someone posts anything questioning another's viewpoint, particularly if they corroborate their views, instead of debating the issue, all they do is become indignant, call names and then pretend to leave.  If that's your communication style preference, you'd feel right at home on the Conservative Board. 

I asked you to enlighten me.  Instead of doing so, you became angry, called me rude, picked up your toys and left the playground.

I'm asking you again to enlighten me because nowhere did I see it written that this is to take effect once we leave.  Please provide a link to that effect.  If you'd like to debate the issue, please do so.  I agree with Harold Ford that this was nothing more than a stunt.  Do you think this will boost the morale of our soldiers?  What are your views?  Please share them.  Or not.

Your choice.

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Many people were confined against their will just because someone wanted them "out of the way." These were normal people with no mental illness - that is why it is so difficult - don't blame the liberals. Blame your state.

CONFINING THE MENTALLY ILL


In the legal space between what a society should and should not do, taking action to restrict the liberty of people who are mentally ill sits in the grayest of gray areas.

Our notions about civil and constitutional rights flow from an assumption of "normalcy." Step beyond the boundaries and arrest and prison may legally follow. Short of that, government's ability to hold people against their will is severely and properly limited. Unusual behavior on the part of someone who is mentally ill is not illegal behavior. Freedom can't be snatched away on a whim, or on the thought that a person is hard to look at, hard to hear, hard to smell.

It was only a few decades ago that the promise of new medications and a change in attitude opened the doors of the mental hospitals and sent many patients into society. There, they would somehow "normalize" and join everyone else, supported by networks of out-patient facilities, job training, special living arrangements and regular, appropriate medication. But the transition has been imperfect, long and difficult.

In some parts of urban America there is little professional support for those with mental health problems. A new generation of drug and alcohol-fueled mental illness has come on the scene. People frequently end up on the street, un-medicated and exhibiting a full range of behaviors that are discomforting at the very least and threatening at their worst.

If you want to resolve most of the problems in California, how about trying to boot all all the illegals and their anchor babies with all the freebies they are not entitled to, all the jobs they are taking away from legal citizens, and stop giving them free healthcare, free money, free shelter, free subsidies, all NOT FREE TO ME!!!

Obey the law and kick them out and that would take care of most of your financial woes!

Both McCain and Palin stated in speeches that she sold the jet on ebay. Not true. She posted it - it didn't sell. McCain went a step further - he said she made a profit on it from selling it on ebay. Lies. Now McCain says he misspoke.............PTSD?

Written last Thanksgiving:  "Some would argue that two different nations actually celebrated: upright, moral, traditional red America and the dissolute, liberal blue states clustered on the periphery of the heartland. The truth, however, is much more complicated and interesting than that.

Take two iconic states: Texas and Massachusetts. In some ways, they were the two states competing in the last election. In the world's imagination, you couldn't have two starker opposites. One is the homeplace of Harvard, gay marriage, high taxes, and social permissiveness. The other is Bush country, solidly Republican, traditional, and gun-toting. Massachusetts voted for Kerry over Bush 62 to 37 percent; Texas voted for Bush over Kerry 61 to 38 percent.

So ask yourself a simple question: which state has the highest divorce rate? Marriage was a key issue in the last election, with Massachusetts' gay marriages becoming a symbol of alleged blue state decadence and moral decay. But in actual fact, Massachusetts has the lowest divorce rate in the country at 2.4 divorces per 1,000 inhabitants. Texas - which until recently made private gay sex a criminal offence - has a divorce rate of 4.1. A fluke? Not at all. The states with the highest divorce rates in the U.S. are Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Texas. And the states with the lowest divorce rates are: Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont. Every single one of the high divorce rate states went for Bush. Every single one of the low divorce rate states went for Kerry. The Bible Belt divorce rate, in fact, is roughly 50 percent higher than the national average.

Some of this discrepancy can be accounted for by the fact that couples tend to marry younger in the Bible Belt - and many clearly don't have the maturity to know what they're getting into. There's some correlation too between rates of college education and stable marriages, with the Bible Belt lagging a highly educated state like Massachusetts. But the irony still holds. Those parts of America that most fiercely uphold what they believe are traditional values are not those parts where traditional values are healthiest. Hypocrisy? Perhaps. A more insightful explanation is that these socially troubled communities cling onto absolutes in the abstract because they cannot live up to them in practice.

But doesn't being born again help bring down divorce rates? Jesus, after all, was mum on the subject of homosexuality, but was very clear about divorce, declaring it a sin unless adultery was involved. A recent study, however, found no measurable difference in divorce rates between those who are "born again" and those who are not. 29 percent of Baptists have been divorced, compared to 21 percent of Catholics. Moreover, a staggering 23 percent of married born-agains have been divorced twice or more. Teen births? Again, the contrast is striking. In a state like Texas, where the religious right is extremely strong and the rhetoric against teenage sex is gale-force strong, the teen births as a percentage of all births is 16.1 percent. In liberal, secular, gay-friendly Massachusetts, it's 7.4, almost half. Marriage itself is less popular in Texas than in Massachusetts. In Texas, the percent of people unmarried is 32.4 percent; in Massachusetts, it's 26.8 percent. So even with a higher marriage rate, Massachusetts manages a divorce rate almost half of its "conservative" rival.

Or take abortion. America is one of the few Western countries where the legality of abortion is still ferociously disputed. It's a country where the religious right is arguably the strongest single voting bloc, and in which abortion is a constant feature of cultural politics. Compare it to a country like Holland, perhaps the epitome of socially liberal, relativist liberalism. So which country has the highest rate of abortion? It's not even close. America has an abortion rate of 21 abortions per 1,000 women aged between 15 and 44. Holland has a rate of 6.8. Americans, in other words, have three times as many abortions as the Dutch. Remind me again: which country is the most socially conservative?

Even a cursory look at the leading members of the forces of social conservatism in America reveals the same pattern. The top conservative talk-radio host, Rush Limbaugh, has had three divorces and an addiction to pain-killers. The most popular conservative television personality, Bill O'Reilly, just settled a sex harassment suit that indicated a highly active adulterous sex life. Bill Bennett, the guru of the social right, was for many years a gambling addict. Karl Rove's chief outreach manager to conservative Catholics for the last four years, Deal Hudson, also turned out to be a man with a history of sexual harassment. Bob Barr, the conservative Georgian congressman who wrote the "Defense of Marriage Act," has had three wives so far. The states which register the highest ratings for the hot new television show, "Desperate Housewives," are all Bush-states.

The complicated truth is that America truly is a divided and conflicted country. But it's a grotesque exaggeration to say that the split is geographical, or correlated with blue and red states. Many of America's biggest "sinners" are those most intent on upholding virtue. In fact, it may be partly because they know sin so close-up that they want to prevent its occurrence among others. And some of those states which have the most liberal legal climate - the Northeast and parts of the upper MidWest - are also, in practice, among the most socially conservative. To ascribe all this to "hypocrisy" seems to me too crude an explanation. America is simply a far more complicated and diverse place than crude red and blue divisions can explain.

they are adding police and only in the big cities do they have paid firemen. The rest are volunteers.

I look at it this way: If a state can't stay in the black, then they have to cut spending some place that wouldn't jeopardize the safety of the citizens. Threats of cutting essential services like Barney Fife stated today are unjustified. Cut the non-essential services first.

Our governor talks about cutting back on services, laying off government workers, which I think is a good idea because government is too big anyway, but then he turns around and spends more money on non-essential items. Doesn't make sense.  

So very very sad.

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go off on your own fantasy with nothing to support it!!!  DailyKos is merely a website where people go to express liberal opinions.  The AIP is a radical group that is involved with weapons.  There leader was MURDERED or he would be on the govt terrorist list.  Research, research, research.  Or else clearly label your posts "my fantasy about what ...... probably. said or did or thought  ......"