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No, I am outraged that you assume so very much.

Posted By: AR on 2005-10-19
In Reply to: And yet you STILL refuse to condemn child sexual abuse! - Libby

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Exactly what are you outraged about

Rush was just reading actual articles of studies that have been released in the last week.  Are you outraged about the studies, or that Rush was was being funny in saying Bush is killing the poor.


When the left has time to spin the stories I'm sure there will be articles insinuating that Bush is the reason for the poor's obesity problem.  I mean, everything's his fault, right?  That's the satire, but actually there's a lot of truth in it.  If you think that's sick than so be it.  Don't listen or read Rush.  He's been ruffling feathers for years, and millions of people listen to his show, and it's the #1 talk radio show in America.  You can be outraged all you want, but a lot of people agree with him and understand his sense of humor.  At least us Rush fans aren't out making fantasy movies about presidents we would like to see assassinated.  That's truly sick,


 


I'm sorry if I came across as rude. Outraged is more like it.

Outraged that a handful of Republican politicians would sell out American troops to a bunch of terrorists, even in a symbolic gesture.  Outraged that their lives should be used in a political stunt.  This is very frustrating for me.  I think our lawmakers should support our troops in every way possible, and I believe it's unacceptable to agree to amnesty for anyone who kills our troops. 


We have already far exceeded our budget to the limit because of this needless personal war of George W. Bush.  We provided Iraqis with free medical care.  We will be supplying them with countless more money for decades to come.  Our troops continue to be killed and wounded.  I don't care what the political stakes are.  Under NO CIRCUMSTANCE should their lives be used as pawns any more than they already have been.  For God's sake, don't they deserve the support (regardless of how symbolic it is) from ALL members of the party that sent them there?


I posted comments by two lawmakers regarding this, but you didn't choose to address the content of what I posted.  I've noticed that happens a lot on these boards.  When someone posts anything questioning another's viewpoint, particularly if they corroborate their views, instead of debating the issue, all they do is become indignant, call names and then pretend to leave.  If that's your communication style preference, you'd feel right at home on the Conservative Board. 


I asked you to enlighten me.  Instead of doing so, you became angry, called me rude, picked up your toys and left the playground.


I'm asking you again to enlighten me because nowhere did I see it written that this is to take effect once we leave.  Please provide a link to that effect.  If you'd like to debate the issue, please do so.  I agree with Harold Ford that this was nothing more than a stunt.  Do you think this will boost the morale of our soldiers?  What are your views?  Please share them.  Or not.


Your choice.


even if they did Americans would be outraged when the prices went up
we all want our cake and eat it too, that's the problem. You can't pay Americans good wages and expect cheap products. I'm not saying i'm for or against outsourcing but that's just the way it is.
Obama camp outraged...
by the tough questions a conservative reporter asked Joe Biden.  Boycotting the station.  And said, are you ready, that that same reporter gave McCain softball questions.  Well hellooo....welcome to the real world, guys!!  Can you believe it?  Whine, whine.  You asked Joe hard questions about Marxism and Obama facing a crisis during his first 6 months (Joe's own quote) and that is NOT FAIR because you did not ask McCain hard questions.  And what has been the life of McCain and Sarah Palin with all mainstream media?  Hard questions.  Obama and Biden?  Major softball questions.  They got the tables turned on them and squealed like pigs stuck under a gate.   They need to do what they told Sarah Palin to do...GET TOUGH.  Ha!  When given the choice to run with the big dogs or stay on the porch....they are whining on the porch.  UNbelievable!! 
The governor of my state is outraged over this
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Did you feel as outraged when the same joke
Just wondering if you are getting all exercised about the joke itself or the butt of it. 
I see that no liberal on this board was outraged by your post...sm
Did you also see in the news about the walls outside of congressional offices, new furniture being thrown out, as well as files and files of personal info?

Where is the outrage about this? I could only find it on Fox, so obviously the liberal media could care less.

I guess this has been going on for some time, but still....it really makes me mad....


....just like the fact that they voted themselves raises and are hoping no one would notice........
There are many families of the fallen who praise Bush and I'm not outraged. sm
I don't understand them, but there's no outrage.

Like I said before grief is different for everyone and for people to continue to say "she's done a 360," to me is not really relevent. Most intelligent people know that grief has stages and this lady is entitled to change her mind, her feelings. That's something the neocons can't grasp, why I'm not sure. Maybe after reality and permancy set in, her feelings changed. This lady has lost her son, and you actually think she's camping out for political reasons. I mean come on. That's a ridiculous argument.

I dont think that he HAS to speak to the lady again because he has already had his press time with her while she praised him, BUT what does he have to lose by speaking with this lady again.
Assume all you wish. TI
I have no idea.  The fact is, it was linked and your words discussed.  A good laugh was had by all once we realized you really have no idea what you speak about.  What you say here speaks for itself. Isreal is an evil aggressor, no Israelis, women or children, have ever died at the hands of our enemies, we deserve what we get, and we are a plague upon the face of the earth.  That's what you have said, not in those words but in those thoughts.  At least stand behind your words, as foul as they may be to some of us.  We have met your kind all over the world.  There are more and more of them all the time. 
Then I must assume you are against

all of the killing and anhilation of life in Iraq too. But of course, this is just assumption on my part, I could be wrong.  By the way, those embryos are going to be destroyed, as in thrown out.  Does this constitute killing of embryos?  Amazing how some people cannot see things in an encompassing manner.


You assume too much
You assume that everyone who protests never says thank you and does not appreciate the military and that is wrong. As I said before, I was a government employee in a military installation for many years. I do appreciate what these men and women do every day. My father and father-in-law both served in Vietnam. They are both huge war protestors and I am proud to march along side them.

That doesn't mean I have to keep quiet when I don't agree with a military action. Protesting war does not necessarily equal protesting the military. I do agree many are disrespectful, many of us are not and will continue to exercise our rights as long as we have something to say.
Why do you assume that... sm
Planned Parenthood doesn't spend as much time and money offering contraception as they do abortion? *Of course* they do.

But I'm not surprised you aren't familiar with all their services, as you seem unable to see anything other than ABORTION-ABORTION-ABORTION!!! (Which, in looking at the volume of posts you've written on it seems like a rather unhealthy obsession, IMHO.)

My gosh. How sad that that's what you got out of that story. The story was about premature babies dying, not abortion, and yet you somehow turn it into an attack on Planned Parenthood and abortion? What the heck???


And before you assume, no, I am not
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Why do you assume...
That the only reason people have against voting for Obama is 'fear?' You must think we're all a pretty uneducated bunch, huh? Right back at ya.

And you need more information on ACORN. Or you're in complete denial. I don't know which one.
Don't assume
First, it is rude & completely illogical for you to equate "breast enhancement" with atheism. You're making leaps from "breast enhancement" to "what a Christian would never do" (& that in itself I find suspect) to "what a non-Christian always does." & you even go one step further, you think you can actually substitute some product (which you've already mistakenly associated with a certain group) *for* that group. It's ridiculous, flimsy, shrill.

A product is not a belief system, but I find it typical of the "black & white," simplistic, narrow form of christianity I unfortunately encounter from time to time that you think the world is divided into "me/not me" and everything outside that tiny circle is somehow all part of the same large conspiracy to deprive you of something.

Second, I would find it completely out of place to screen a pro-choice message at the Superbowl. Why? Because it is a belief system & has no place there. Condoms? As has been posted elsewhere in this thread, plenty of christians use them, & for reasons other than a promiscuous lifestyle. It's a product, used by lots of people for lots of different reasons. For that matter, I would imagine there are women who've had their breasts enlarged for reasons of self-esteem who would be offended by the idea that they did it in order to facilitate promiscuity. In a perfect world, I suppose things like this wouldn't matter & we would all have self-esteem no matter what our shape. The world isn't perfect -- but it is what the godhead made.
Why would you assume..(sm)
that we pay for everything they do?  They actually do have money of their own.  We aren't talking about Palin here.  LOL.
I assume you are speaking of me.
First of all, for your information since you obviously cannot or will not read, I despise Bush.  Your intolerance tells the world (these boards are read by the world, after all) that the liberal left in the United States has become the party of intolerance, anti-Israel, anti-American.  You don't appreciate the freedoms you have and you live a world coloured by hopelessness and despair.  I really pity you.  Since I don't vote in the United States, I am neither left nor right.  But of course, it's easier to label and name call, as you seem so very good at.  The realisation may hit one day that you have a very narrow view of the world out there.
You just assume that anyone who disagrees with you is a ....
*gasp* Republican. I'm not. I am not adverse to intellect. I just don't happen to think that attacking an innocent 16-year-old girl because her mother is in a different political party is particularly intellectual, nor do I think it defines those who engage in as particularly intellectual. But that is just me.

I would hope that Obama would be equally as incensed if someone attacked one of HIS children. I know I WOULD BE.
I did not assume you didn't, I was just asking if you did...
which is a valid question.

As to politico itself, sorry if I misunderstood. From your post I did not discern that you meant to that site only. I apologize. Thanks for the clarification.
Am I to assume then you are all on board for...
America becoming a socialized nation and earmarking a certain percentage of our tax dollars to go to fight "global poverty" in addition to the billions we already send overseas....you are a citizen of the world before you are a citizen of the United States? Or you just ignore those parts of an Obama presidency?
You automatically assume
You assume if there is something negative said here about Obama, then that poster MUST be for McCain. Well, that is not the case. BTW, Palin doesn't have to look far to cast aspersions on Obama. He's done that to himself.
I assume you speak for yourself

I assume you mean the sad part
is all of our brothers and sisters who refuse believe because they can't "prove" God's existence.  I don't feel sad that the end times are near (I believe) for myself but I do believe the Bible tells us that in the end EVERY knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.  It also tells us not to be afraid, something I struggle with, yet I know that in my rather looooong life, He has provided that which I needed, sometimes things I didn't even know I needed.  He has also allowed me to suffer the consequences when I went against His will.  Whatever part of the tribulation we have to endure, I am sure He will make a way for us.  And I do believe we are entering into the tribulation.
why do you assume they didn't
u know what they say about assuming
I assume you were there at his birth?
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Just assume and judge all you want. I AM
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You don't know me or my faith - so don't assume
And looks like the saying is true about people who assume things.
I assume you are writing all this from Iraq?

Otherwise don't call anyone a coward but yourself.  If you support this war, get off your flabby butt and get over there.


When Hitler sent the German army into an unpopular war, were the Germans who wanted the war stopped and the troops brought home cowards?  Did they not show support for the troops by questioning Hitler's war?  They were admirable and good people to stand up in the face of the German political administrations' choices!.  They LOVED their troops but did not LOVE Hitler.  Some of the German troops who died in Hitler's misguided war were my husband's relatives.  And no, Bush is not Hitler so don't try misquoting me on that.  The point is, not all wars are noble and good, despite what your proteswarrior group might say.  And just because a PERSON or administration got us into a deadly MESS doesn't mean we should remain in that quagmire and continue letting our troops be killed, whether it is the Civil War, Vietnam or Iraq.  Gee, at one time even the Civil War seemed like a good idea.  650,000 lost?  Was it worth it?  Maybe other alternatives could have been explored? 


You hawks are not going to get it.  Us libs can love our troops and support them but we cannot love and support this war.  We can't pretend this is a good and noble cause. 


I am not willing to assume that 1.2 million babies...
would have horrible lives. I can't see killing them all just in case some might suffer. But how is our choice to decide whether or not someone lives based on what kind of life they might have? I think it should be the choice of the creator, myself. I am curious as to what you think your creator thinks about choosing to kill an unborn child? I think mine's heart breaks every time one happens...over 2000 times a day. Yes, that's what I think.

It's quick? It's horrible but its quick? Good grief!!

You keep discounting the right of the child to live. Who are you, the mother, or anyone else, to say that child has no right to live? Do you think your creator endowed you with that right? Just curious.
I did read the whole thing, why do you assume that I
didn't? Just because I didn't feel that it was racist, doesn't mean I didn't. We obviously have different takes on it.

The release of it I was referring to was to the politico.com web site, which Obama did relase it to, not the thesis as a whole.
I assume you mean Rev. Otis Moss?

If so, I have read his bio and I see that he is a protoge (sp) of Dr. Martin Luther King for whom I had great respect.   I expect the blogs and other anti-Obama sources would rip him to shreds though.  Guess I can expect to see posts about him here tomorrow.


Going to bed now.


You assume a lack of compassion....
but your snotty self-righteous attitude speaks for itself. Get over it.
imposing to assume that I am not informed
because I disagree with you?
How do you assume that my world is small?
How can I believe the rest of your comment and your whole state of mind when you state such nonsense?

What is this supposed to mean, I quote, '....so find a different name to call me?'

I cannot recall having ever met you on this board, Victoria, or whatever your user name is?


Is tht so? So I assume that you are a flip-flop,
WHAT exactly made you change your mind?
I assume Goggle works as well for the left as for the right but here are a few

http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page


There are 49,100 other entries.  And most of them are not right-wing.


Linked to a Jewish blog? I assume someone from sm
the conservative board did that. I am opposed to war and weep for all victims of war. My criticism is aimed at the state-nations responsible for them, including my own.
You just told another poster not to assume things about you. sm
And then you turned around and did it to me!  Boy howdy, I bet the 60s were a blur to you!  Ah, well, just wee weeing in the wind here.  Nothing of substance.  Move along crowd, nothing to see. 
I assume you are referring to a single photo of him...
and I assume you don't know the exact moment that picture was taken - maybe before or after the actual pledge was recited?  Regardless, I support Obama 100%, and as I have said many times: No candidate is perfect, but he is an exceptional human being and can literally help "save" this country, and Lord knows we need some savin up in here!  I am very optimistic about the outcome in Iowa.
You assume its "abuse of power",or you hope.
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Racism on this board? Not fair to assume that.
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Because I read and research! Dont assume you
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Why assume that flag-flying was this individual's
There's nothing in the story to support your assumption that flying the flag represents this individual's complete understanding of the notion of patriotism.

On the other hand, flying the flag IS certainly ONE expression of patriotism - a form of protected speech, in fact - and the ONLY question here is not whether this individual has a simplistic view of patriotism, but whether displaying the flag should have been prohibited.

We'll just call this your quota of "straw man" logical fallacies for the week, shall we? You may not post another one until next week.
So by posting this, you assume that all liberals feel this way about Christianity?
I certainly know that is not true.  No one has a right to judge any human being's Christianity but God.  Yes, I know your headline said *liberals only* but, of course, that is an invitation to look, isn't it?  I doubt seriously that this writer knows how *the majority* of Christians feel on anything, including the death penalty.  He also shows a very marked lack of understanding and knowledge of what is in the Bible.  Though I am not an Ann Coulter fan, I have never known her to lean heavily on her Christianity when speaking. The last time I looked, there is no picture next to Christianity in the encyclopedia.