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Ah yes, governor Rendel, of the tax and spend branch...

Posted By: watcher on 2009-06-19
In Reply to: Heads up on PA taxes - Backwards typist

of the Democratic party. I saw where Specter finally changed parties...only a formality, he has voted as a Democrat for years. Obama got elected and he wanted on the train...lol.


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An olive branch?
Yeah, keep calling names and insisting we play with you.  You're just proving my point nicely.  You want to cause trouble and complain when you get it. 
I'd like to extend an olive branch to you, ms!

I think we will find that we have many things in common if we just respect each other's right to have different opinions and express ourselves properly.


It will be nice getting to know you!



You can't even recognize an olive branch when extended.
I give up trying to reason with you.  You aren't who I thought you were.  No need to respond.
No, I think he should sue the governor of...
Ohio for sicking law enforcement on him for a background check when all he did was answer a question. You really think that is A-OK? Where's the liberal outrage over trampled civil rights? Oh darn..I forgot. On when someone walks on the rights of someone on YOUR side. How silly of me.
Are you governor of a state? sm
if you are, then run. Bill Clinton had only been a governor when he ran. Obama has only been a senator. At least she has actually run a government. Her #2 opponent has not. The #1 on the Dem ticket has not.

Somehow I don't think the American people are going to lose any sleep because you think they are stupid. :)
By the way, I was talking about the governor not you. nm
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As well as former governor of Mass who
is also a Republican has come out in support of Obama, and he said he has never backed a Democratic presidential nominee before.  The rats on that sinking ship are lessening in number day by day.
Exactly. Look at Governor Schwarzenegger.
He was born in Austria.  He can run for politics and even be governor, but not President of the US because he was not born in the US.  Am I correct?  So I question about the O.  Here is all the crap about O's Birth Certificate, yet why just can't he cough it up himself to stop all this "is he or is he not born in the US."  Gee whiz.  I guess that is how he is going to run the US, makes us question everything.  
Not in my state. The governor gives

the money to the casinos and sports arenas. PA, believe it or not, is off the "50 Worse Roads in the Country" put out by Overdrive magazine every year. We're #3 this year. That's because they rebuilt part of the turnpike.


BTW, roads need tri-axles to do the work. Tri-axle owners have to go through a broker. If the broker has his own trucks, his trucks work, the owners don't. Although a broker is not supposed to use his trucks because of prevailing wages on these jobs unless he pays prevailing wages, they get away with it somehow...one broker used to make up fake lease/owner papers so his trucks could work.  Theyall leave the owner/operators in the dust and cut them out of the jobs. I'm talking from experience.


 


She has been a very successful governor
Lots of people are able to keep family and jobs separate. I'm sure her family is doing just fine. Every family goes through ups and downs. You should really lay off the personal attacks on her because your not very good at it. Lets stick to issues. If she has done something as a governor you don't agree with that's one thing, but your basing this statement on what? That her daughter had a baby????

Take a look at the tea parties yesterday, take a look at congresses approval rating. It's dropping like a lead weight. Take a look at the anointed ones ratings. Dropping like a dead weight too. He's now in the low 50% rating. With this in the WH and senate I'm looking forward to a change of parties next election.
She is governor of Alaska. Oil and Gas is a big part of...
that state's economy. She said the science presented that the polar bears were in danger was faulty. I cannot say, because I have not seen the study. The only things about this I have seen is on environmental sites. I would like to see something less slanted. She is also for alternative forms of energy, but she is a realist. It is going to take a long time for that to be a viable option. Yes, we should work on it. But in the mean time, we need to drill here and drill now. That is the road to getting off foreign oil. I think anyone's energy plan has to include that.

Yes, she is pro life. And she believes that abortion in any case is wrong. I believe that also. We are entitled to that opinion. Yes, the morning after pill is issued to all women who report a rape. Women who do not report a rape can obtain it a health departments, hospitals, and from a physician. As far as incest...I still believe abortion is wrong; however, an abortion law with those exclusions, and add the exclusion to save the life of the mother, would save many thousands of babies every year. This country aborts in excess of 1.2 million babies every year. We could save over 80% of those babies if we had a law like that, instead of an abortion on demand oops law. Just because she is pro life in all cases does not mean she would not be a good VP...and the law will never be changed unless the supreme court overturns its decision on Roe v. Wade. As VP she would have no input into that...even McCain as pres has no input other than appointing judges, and those judges have to get past the Congress.

Just my opinion...so you know where conservative persons stand on it.
No he doesn't. He quit when she became governor.
What if he did? Thousands of people work for oil companies. And if you want to keep driving your car and putting oil in your furnance and all the million other products in the world that require petroleum, I am thinking you should hope they continue to.
Sounds like we share the same governor...
don't even get me started on property taxes. Where is that decrease he promised?? lol. Shoulda known.
Exactly. And the fact that the governor of Ohio...
ordered a background check on him is a violation of his civil rights and he should sue him. That is absolutely ridiculous.
Mundane Governor Stuff
I'm thinking MS Palin's probably pretty peeved to have to deal with such mundane stuff as Alaska's state budget, especially with the fall of the price of oil. Don't worry, Sara. OPEC's planning on holding some back, so the price'll shoot right back up.

How do you keep 'em down on the farm after they've been in that spotlight?
Heads up Governor Schwarzenegger!!!!

If you want to resolve most of the problems in California, how about trying to boot all all the illegals and their anchor babies with all the freebies they are not entitled to, all the jobs they are taking away from legal citizens, and stop giving them free healthcare, free money, free shelter, free subsidies, all NOT FREE TO ME!!!


 


Obey the law and kick them out and that would take care of most of your financial woes!


The governor of my state is outraged over this
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No, he specifically said Bush and the governor of Mississippi. nm

Palin sells governor's jet on ebay

Both McCain and Palin stated in speeches that she sold the jet on ebay. Not true. She posted it - it didn't sell. McCain went a step further - he said she made a profit on it from selling it on ebay. Lies. Now McCain says he misspoke.............PTSD?


On the news today Governor Richardson said it.
on camera.
Corrupt liberal democrat Governor arrested.
Of course no surprise here. Why is it every day we see nothing but corrupt liberal after corrupt liberal? This is good though. Why can't liberals just be honest? It only supports the theory that liberals are mentally derranged.
Tax and spend...

but not in that order


"I think at this point there needs to be a focus on an immediate increase in spending and I think this is a time when deficit fear has to take a second seat . . . I believe later on there should be tax increases. Speaking personally, I think there are a lot of very rich people out there whom we can tax at a point down the road and recover some of the money."
-- Barney Frank, October 20, 2008


Neither can I. I'm going to spend it
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He never seems to explain how he will spend the
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SHE did not spend it, GOP did. - see message
I take great issue with the fact that we have some serious problems in America (unemployment/lost jobs, housing crisis, war, etc) and everyone is focused on where and how much was spent on Palin and families clothes. Hooey is what I say! (sorry don't know how to spelly hooey(who-ee)). Everyone is focused on money. Money, money, money. That's all anyone cares about. Obama is picked and everyone is praising the democratic choice because he is not someone who has been in Washington for centuries like the other. Palin is picked and republicans are critized that she has not been around for centuries. Obama has no experience and that's okay "we need a fresh face with new ideas". Palin is picked who has experience and people chose to ignore that. So everyone wants people who have money in the white house and she is critized for not having enough. Everyone is into the "image". Palin and her family do not live like the high-fallutin (sp?) washington beurocrats do. They don't spent thousands of dollars on clothing. But because "image" is what everyone wants, the GOP buys them clothes. God knows she's made fun of for everything else. She already answered the question. SHE did not buy clothes, etc for her and her family. The GOP did. She has no use for those clothes and they either have been or will be returned. As for people going after her to "verify" this. I think that story is a bunch of crapola! I don't believe it. I have not seen a credible source to verity they haven't returned the items. This is probably like that anonymous coward who is trying to stir up trouble by saying Gov. Palin lost the election for the republicans. Gov. Palin did not lose the election for them. McCain did that all by himself (and GOP for even picking him, and GOP for not picking a different VP candidate). If anything Gov. Palin held it together. Everytime he started diving in the polls she would get out and give speeches and the debate, and his poll numbers would go up. People loved Gov. Palin. Others were just bitter or hateful.

She never "stepped over the limits", because the GOP was the ones who determined that her family had to hold the same image so they did what they needed. The GOP knew very well people would not vote for someone who's family is a jeans & t-shirt type of family. Image. That's all that anyone cares about and if the McCain camp had any chance at all the GOP knew they had to present an image to the public.

She and her family gave everything back. It will be (or has been) verified. People need to stop focusing on this petty insignificant issue and lets move ahead. We will never make this country great if the democrats keep focusing on Gov. Sarah Palin and what has happened in the past. The democrats are always screaming at us stop looking in the past. I read somewhere that this is why the democratic party will fail. Because they don't look ahead, they keep focusing on Palin and keep preferring to kick her while she is down. Leave the lady and her family alone. They've gone back home and you will not have to see them or hear from them again.
LOL. SHE will spend too much in govt?
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We don't have the money to spend.

That's the problem. They have to borrow the money from other countries. If they keep printing money like its going out of style, our money will have no value and you'll be taking a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread...if you can find a loaf of bread.


As you say, what part of that don't you understand?


Really? Then perhaps you should spend your time
reminding the posters who continue to say it ain't so, that Obama isn't really dropping those charges. Talk to them, the rest of us do not live in O land.
Totally against. You cannot spend and get
If you were in debt, what are you to do, I guess get more in debt. Then you beg your family and friends to bail you out and now you owe them plus your debt and it get worse and worse. Finally, bankrupt and could be out in the streets.

Well, isn't that what we are doing with Obama in office? Isn't that what we are doing with this stimulus, but now EVERYONE is involved?

By tomorrow, after this new TARP program comes out by our new treasury, we could be about 2 Trillion dollars in debt total, plus the 750 billion from the previous bailout. We need to pay off our debts and not create more!

I agree that cutting taxes may not have helped, but I believe some of us who are in this mess have done it to ourselves (me included). Some wanted a fancy car, better house, nicer things and we bought and bought (not all of us) and now our nation is running and functioning by being in debt.

Took an 8 hour Crown Ministry class and it was incredible. They have a website and they recommend not to call a credit counselor, but to call one of them and guess what, IT IS FREE and they tell you what to say to your creditors and how to set up a budget plan. I am paying off all my debts no matter how hard I work and getting rid of a car and going by a strict budget.

I believe if this stimulus goes through the way it is by spending and spending, well, the ugly head of inflation will appear. I do not want my credit cards to rise to 30-40% interest or have the bank say, cough up the money honey, nor do I want to pay 12.00 for half gallon of milk.
You should take your two cents and spend it on
Badly needed, I'm afraid.
by your logic you think we can spend sm
our way out of debt???????

There is no logic at all to that line of thinking.
Here's how to spend your tax rebate money

How to use the rebate:


As you may have heard the Bush Administration said each and every one of us would now get a nice rebate. If we spend that money at Wal-Mart, all the money will go to China. If we spend it on gasoline it will all go to the Arabs, if we purchase a computer it will all go to India, if we purchase fruit and vegetables it will all go to Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala, if we purchase a good car it will all go to Japan, if we purchase useless crap it will all go to Taiwan and none of it will help the American economy.


We need to keep that money here in America, so the only way to keep that money here at home is to buy prostitutes and beer, since those are the only businesses still in the US.


You mean with all the time you spend posting on
Your hubs must make a wad, huh? Seeing as how you obviously dont work a lick.
How much time did you spend watching
the video and confirming every fact? I care about all this and read what I can, but that sounds borderline obsessive. JMHO of course.
Not so much minority, just not as much time to spend on it...
as some seem to have...

It has been my experience with 2 hospital jobs that I had, most of the women, probably 95%, were married and did not need to work. This is going back some 16 years, but it was reasonable back then. A lot of women I worked with talked about how they ocketed their pay in the bank and lived off the spouses pay and benefits.

Times have changed so much. I was a single, newcomer, who needed every penny I made because I lived week to week, but they would always vote down the benefits because they did not need them, and they always put me down all the time. Luckily, there were a few bright shining stars who were open, friendly, and helpful - who taught me SO much about transcription; but the majority, well, not so much.

My point is that our profession has one of the biggest class divisions I think I have ever seen or experienced.
She can spend all the campaign donations she wants
!!
Why would anyone with any sense at all spend $500,000 instead of $12.00 if he could settle it...

Makes sense -- spend 500,000 to block all the lawsuits but not 12.00 for your BC.  Where is everyone that was hollering about what was spent on Palin's wardrobe.


 


And I gave him money and he can spend anyway he wants.
I will be watching with great expectations.
It is his money, he can spend it as he chooses.
What do you think would happen to our economy if everyone stopped spending money? The purpose of Georgie Porgie's stimulus checks were to get everyone out spending money and helping businesses stay afloat.

It takes a lot of nerve telling anyone how to spend their money. That's why it is called "their" money, not yours!
but it is his money to spend as he chooses -
Yes, the economy is horrible, but that does not mean that the people that have money should not spend their money.

I happen to have more money than one of my sisters; however, I don't not spend my money because she cannot afford to spend any.

If he was not spending his personal money on what he chooses, he still would not be giving it to other people to buy cars and pay their mortgages!
Survey: How many hours a day do you spend on these boards? Please?! Thx. nm
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How much time do you spend on both political boards sm
with an opinion to just about every post out there? Seriously. Are you a transcriptionist? Because if you are, you're in the wrong field.
As passionate as you are on our country and all that is going on, you should channel all of this emotional energy towards actually making a difference instead of rebutting every single statement - both Conservative and Liberal, like volunteering for your local conservative chapter or something.
Write a political column.
Run for office.

You spend plenty of time cat fighting when
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I'd rather eat glass than spend a single minute
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Obama says.. "Show me the money". I will spend it
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Spend at least as much time on pub party rehab
What ails your party has next to noting to do with Obama. I don't suppose anyone should expect republicans to recognize the severity of their own party's schisms, especially since their leader thought the economy was "essentially sound" and barely addressed the subject during the campaign.

I heard a sobering statistic yesterday. Among republicans, only 18% of them support SP as a future party leader. I would not be pinning my hopes on her for 2012. Did you happen to notice how brilliant Obama's campaign organization was. That is what you will be up against in 4 years. I am suggesting that the party needs to figure out how to connect with voters between now and then. You have a wide split within your own ranks. Personally, I think they need to move their platform principles more to the center. You may have different ideas. You need to come up with some new blood, and it's not as though you do not have good candidates down ticket who deserve their party's attention in terms of lifting them up into the national spotlight. If you spend the bulk of your time focused on how much you hate Obama and think you can run a successful campaign based on smear, you will be stuck out again.

This in no way implies you should not question him, but if all you have is attacks and offer up no alternatives to policies you oppose, you are bound to repeat these election results in 2012. The party needs a makeover. For starters, a central theme might be nice. Here's a clue for you. Putting all you eggs in the right fringe basket and turning a blind eye to the electorate's desire for bipartisan cooperation and solution's oriented diaglog will lead you straight into the dead end you now find yourselves in.

No problem with checks and balances, but may I suggest you spend at least as much time checking your own party's out-of-control free fall?
Hello. So, the gov prints fiat money to spend

it's way out of this depression.  Let's see if that works for your family.


You lose your job, you have no income, but you spend and spend on your credit cards, up to their max, all 25 of them, thousands of dollars in debt that you will never even be able to pay the interest on, and then the holders of your debt say pay up or we're coming after you, taking your home, everything you own, including your first born.  What do you do then?  Have you spent your way into prosperity or have you spent your way into bankruptcy?


I'm sure you are not trillions and trillions of dollars in debt, and you probably don't have any printing presses to counterfit monopoly money, but if spending your way to posperity will not work in your family, what makes you think it will work with the government?  It can't without dire consequences.


 


 


 


You must spend more time listening to talking heads

Yeah, and his "viable plan" is only to spend trillions
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Yeah, lets spend billions, go into more debt while
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On vacation and not watching the news, thanks. I don't spend all my time sm
watching politics so I guess I missed it.