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The ultimate hypocrisy coming from you! nm

Posted By: MT2 on 2005-06-28
In Reply to: Why are you so rudely attacking this poster? - MTME




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    God: the ultimate scapegoat
    An invention created specifically to blame for the bad decisions of christians everywhere. Sort of a combination of an imaginary friend and an omega wolf. How convenient.

    You need a solid dose of www.patcondell.com, with Julian Jaynes for dessert.

    What a load of bunk.

    Occupation is the ultimate terrorist act.
    Let's get something straight here. Israel is the occupier and Palestine is the occupied. Steal their land, blockade their supplies, invade them, kill and maim them, impose a police state, sabotage their economy and THEN call them the terrorists...self-fulfilling prophecy if I ever heard one. You have not one leg to stand on here. Terrorism breeds terrorism. Israel has not only cornered the marked on chaos in Palestine, but throughout the region as well. Bloodshed is their middle name. They wrote the book on savagery.

    No dear. Perhaps massacres turn you on, but they certainly do not make me giddy. Nobody twisted my arm when I formulated my opinions on this issue, since it is based on my own life experiences, just like yours are. Wanna talk monsters? From where I sit, those would be the Israeli population who sits idly by in their complicity and turn a blind eye to the moral outrage on which they base their nationalism. That's the only thing that burns me.

    Israel kicks the holy heck out of itself every time it goes on another one of its bloody rampages. The whole rest of the world, with the exception of the US (whose motives are none too clean either) abhors this behavior and no amount of self-righteous indignation is going to change that fact. My other post already addressed the sheer folly of your suicide bomber reference.

    This may come as a surprise to you, but the objective of Hamas missile fire is to bring attention of the world back to Palestine, the long forgotten and ignored, but as long as they are occupied, it is not that difficult to understand why they would like to blow Israel off the face of the earth. Since you are not in charge of Hamas militia, you hardly can pretend to be able to predict their future operations, except to parrot the endless propaganda you hear on US mainstream media.

    As far as the Stone Age is concerned, Israel would like to think of itself as being all modern and civilized, but they can never join those ranks as long as they remain the occupying war criminals they have been since day one.

    cyndiee obviously is the ultimate judge of any post here...all bow to cyndiee...
    *****8
    Exactly, it's the hypocrisy!

    HYPOCRISY

    THE GOP'S FILIBUSTER HYPOCRISY



    by: Robert Parry, Consortium News


    Though seemingly forgotten by most TV talking heads, it was only three years ago, when the Republicans had control of both the White House and Congress - and "filibuster" was a dirty word.

        It was usually coupled with "obstructionist" amid demands that any of George W. Bush's proposals deserved "an up-or-down vote."


        Yet now, with the Democrats holding the White House and Congress, the Republicans and the Washington press corps have come to view the filibuster fondly, as a valued American tradition, a time-honored part of a healthy legislative process.


        Today, it's seen as a good thing that Democrats must muster 60 votes in the Senate to pass almost anything.


        When the TV pundits talk about Barack Obama's economic stimulus plan squeaking through the Senate, they're actually referring to a vote that might fall in the range of 60 or more yes votes to perhaps 38 no's, a three-touchdown "squeaker."


        The only thing close about the vote is whether the package can overcome a Republican filibuster and get 60 votes for "cloture." To reach this super-majority, Democrats have been forced to accept a higher percentage of tax cuts, even if leading economists consider tax cuts one of the least effective ways of stimulating the moribund economy.


        Yet, this anti-democratic fact about the GOP strategy - that it seeks to frustrate the will of the American majority, which rejected the Republicans and their policies in the last two U.S. elections - is rarely mentioned in the news.


        Nor is the fact that Republicans railed against even a hint of a filibuster when the Democrats were in the minority just a few years ago.


        Back then, when the Republicans controlled everything, the big story was how a threatened Democratic filibuster against, say, one of Bush's right-wing judicial nominations would be met by the Republican "nuclear option" - using a majority-vote on a rule change to eliminate the filibuster permanently.


        For instance, in 2006, when Bush wanted to put Samuel Alito on the U.S. Supreme Court, the move amounted to a direct threat to the Republic. Alito was a staunch believer in the imperial presidency, a promoter of a "unitary executive" who would wield unlimited powers at a time of war - and the "war on terror" promised to be an endless war.


        If confirmed, Alito would join three other justices - John Roberts, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas - who shared his extreme views, and possibly another, Anthony Kennedy, who was considered only slightly more moderate.


        In effect, the Alito nomination raised the specter of five right-wing justices effectively gutting the U.S. Constitution and its checks and balances in favor of Bush's personal rule.


        The Republic in the Balance


        With the future of the American Republic in the balance and Bush short of 60 votes in favor of Alito, a filibuster could have stopped this radical nomination in its tracks and could have forced Bush to select a less extreme nominee.


        Many in the Democratic "base" urged Senate Democrats to use the filibuster at this critical moment - a time when Bush was viewing himself as a new-age monarch and his political aides were fantasizing about a "permanent Republican majority," transforming the United States into a virtual one-party state with the Democrats kept around as a cosmetic appendage.


        As this drama played out, the Washington news media weighed in heavily against a Democratic filibuster, essentially repeating Republican talking points about the need to give the President's nominee an up-or-down vote and bemoaning the anti-democratic nature of the filibuster.


        Republican leaders thundered that any use of the filibuster against Alito or other Bush judicial nominees would force them to go "nuclear" by outlawing filibusters forever. Then, the Republicans could ram through whomever - or whatever - they wanted.


        Rather than call the Republicans' bluff, "moderate" Democratic senators joined a bipartisan group called the "Gang of 14," which agreed to forego filibusters except in "extraordinary circumstances." And despite the alarm of many Americans about Bush's moves to eradicate the Republic, this "gang" did not believe Alito's confirmation reached the "extraordinary" standard.


        So, when a few Democratic senators led by Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts tried to mount a filibuster, the Senate Democratic leadership refused to put up a fight, even as their former standard bearer was mocked by Republicans as a "Swiss Miss" for first urging the filibuster while he was attending an economic conference in Davos, Switzerland.


        Presidential spokesman Scott McClellan piled on Kerry at a White House press briefing. "I think even for a senator, it takes some pretty serious yodeling to call for a filibuster from a five-star ski resort in the Swiss Alps," McClellan laughed.


        In support of his filibuster, Kerry could line up only 25 votes, while the Republicans amassed 72 votes for cloture - a dozen more than the 60 needed to shut off debate. Those votes included 19 Democrats.


        On the final confirmation vote, however, Alito was approved by a much smaller margin, 58-42, meaning that he could have been kept off the Supreme Court if all those who considered him a poor choice had backed the filibuster.


        [As for the fate of the Supreme Court, Justice Kennedy turned out to be less of an extremist than some Republicans had hoped. He joined with more moderate justices in key 5-to-4 opinions that rebuffed President Bush's assertions of unlimited powers.]


        Reversing Majorities


        Despite the timidity of Senate Democrats in the Alito battle, an energized Democratic "base" - joined by Republican constitutionalists - fought on against the "permanent-Republican-majority" dreams of Bush, Karl Rove and the neoconservatives. In November 2006, the Republicans were repudiated at the polls.


        Suddenly in the congressional minority, the Republicans did a flip-flop on the filibuster, discovering the high principles behind the tactic. The GOP used the filibuster routinely in 2007 and 2008 to block Democratic initiatives, especially any challenges to Bush's expansive claims of executive authority.


        Typical of the modern Washington press corps, its leading voices changed, too, joining the Republican chorus hailing the filibuster as an honored tradition of democracy and finding value in the need for the Democrats to muster 60 Senate votes to pass any significant bill.


        Today, the press corps continues in that pattern, forgetting the GOP's earlier contempt for the filibuster and treating its use by the Republican minority against the stimulus bill as normal.


        There are rarely any comments about obstructionism, nor are the Republicans compared to the Southern segregationists who famously used the filibuster to resist civil rights laws in the 1950s and 1960s.


        Given this pass by the press, Republicans are making the filibuster their chief weapon in pressuring Obama and congressional Democratic to accept more of a Republican-style stimulus bill with less spending and more tax cuts, regardless of whether that represents the best hope for the U.S. economy.


        But the stimulus battle is likely to be only the first taste of the GOP strategy to hobble the Obama presidency. The Republicans can be expected to use the filibuster again and again to prevent many of the social and economic changes that the American voters endorsed in November 2008, policies like national health insurance and spending on long-neglected domestic needs.


        In this obstructionism, the Republicans appear to have a powerful ally in the Washington press corps that - with few exceptions - treats the GOP's promiscuous use of filibusters as some responsible application of a time-honored tradition. The press also forgets to remind the U.S. public that just a few years ago, the Republicans hated filibusters.


        --------


    Hypocrisy?

    Congressional Budget Increased to pay GOP Staffers



    February 25, 2009 12:04 PM


    A ten percent increase in the budget for Congressional operations was needed because Senate Republicans wanted to retain previous staff levels despite having lost roughly 20 percent of their ranks in the 2008 elections, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said Wednesday.


    Congressional Republicans have been pouncing on any instance of wasteful spending they can find, but the congressional-operations line item will likely remain safe from their ire.


    The one-tenth hike brings the budget for Congress itself to $4.4 billion.


    Reid, asked about the increase at a press conference, initially dodged the question, speaking instead about spending in general.


    The unsatisfied reporter repeated the question about a ten percent raise for the congressional budget. "How is that going to help get out of the depression?" she pressed.


    Don't blame us, said Reid.


    "We had a situation -- you should direct that question to Senator McConnell," he said, referring to the Senate Minority Leader, "because we had trouble organizing this year. He wanted to maintain a lot of their staffing even though they had lost huge numbers. And the only way we could get it done is to do what we did. So you should direct that question to Senator McConnell."


    A McConnell spokesman didn't immediately return a phone call.


    UPDATE: A GOP leadership aide is calling rubbish: "I just don't know how they can get away with blaming us for that 10 percent figure," he writes in an e-mail. "Republicans aren't getting a dime more in committee money for staff than we got last year. The entire pot of funding used to operate Senate committees and other 'inquiries and investigations' is around 3 percent of the total ($137 million of $4.4 billion). And the increase from last year's funding for the 'inquiries and investigations' account is less than 2/10ths of 1 percent of the entire bill."


    He adds: "For perspective: all Senate operations funding increased 7 percent, the House funding increased 7.5 percent and the Architect of the Capitol funding increased 28 percent."


    UPDATE II: A Democratic leadership aide picks up on the notion that "Republicans aren't getting a dime more," noting that while they aren't getting more, they aren't getting less, either, even though they have far fewer members.


    "This would be funny if it wasn't from someone associated with the the so-called party of fiscal responsibility," writes the aide. "This is the height of hypocrisy and utterly fails to acknowledge the fact that in the past, when the spread has been like it is now, the minority party gets far less money than what they eventually got. It was an unprecedented deal that is more outrageous when you realize that they will end up voting against the bill."


    Hypocrisy...........sm
    Yet the government has the audacity to demand proper accounting of the auto makers, banks, etc., when it doesn't know a debit from a credit.


    Hypocrisy, you say? sm
    Have you never said that you would not do something and then find yourself in the position where you would have to choose between that something and something far worse? I sure hope not, because I have and it is not a pleasant place to be.

    I'm not going to argue the point further, but I would like to say I think it must be wonderful for you and the others who would nail Ms. Palin to the barn door that you live such perfect and blameless lives that you can judge her for her deeds.
    Do you really not see the hypocrisy?
    The Christian bible also has this fun little book in it called Revelations where it includes a happy little tale about Armageddon where all the right-thinking believers get to rule the earth while the the non-believers meet their doom in a battle royale.

    Just to clarify...were you educated in an Islamic school? Or do Christian schools teach that it's okay to hate and condemn groups of people, too?
    I can't believe what I'm seeing...the HYPOCRISY is astounding....sm
    If a democrat gets in in 2008, they'll be crying again for an exit strategy. True partisanship; they ride whatever wave that's in.
    Agree about the hypocrisy going on.
    Are you rich and make more than 250K a year?  Are you happy with the way the pubs have used their power for the last 8 years?  Do you know that if JM gets to be prez he will tax your healthcare benefits as part of your income, whatever amount your employer pays towards your healthcare benefits will be counted as part of your income, and that he will give you 5K to pay for health insurance when health insurance costs the average family 14K a year?  Good luck in finding health insurance with $5,000.  The policies of both candidates are listed on their websites. There is stark contrast between the two.
    Yes, hypocrisy is breathtaking, but that's
    No contest to the concept that children are off limits. But in the aftermath of all that mind numbing controversy, something else was taken off the debate table. Any voter who dares to bring policies on family values, sex education, access to birth control, abstinence and abortion prevention up for inspection will now be portrayed as a child abuser. This not only gives SP and party a distinct head start in the race away from debate on that part of their platform, but it also allows her to now trot them out to olster hone her hockey mom, superwoman, I can have it all and do it all well pitch, all the while, so far, not articlating a single issue or policy.
    That's no hypocrisy, its truth (sm)

    Look at the previous posts from pubs.  Key words include marxist, communist, socialist, illegal alien, Muslim (like that's a bad word), anti-American, terrorist, and the list goes on.  So, according to your standards, pointing this out is a smear tactic?  At least the McCain campaign actually knows what a smear tactic is.


    Not hypocrisy, just facts.
    And yes, I do aspire to maybe some day be on that higher road with Gourdpainter, but right now I am too outraged by people like sam and her followers that have fed the fires of intolerance and diviseness.  Besides, this message was for Gourdpainter, not for you!.  Leave it up to you people to take the opportunity to attack anything and everything just because you're sucking on those sour grapes!
    Your opinion, so you see it as hypocrisy.
    nm
    The hypocrisy is mind baffling...sm
    In the very same week that they come out criticizing the Clinton administration for the VERY same thing. They have a clear shot on 150 Taliban militants and do what - nothing.

    Newt Gingrich even said this is equivocal to figthing a part-time war.
    Abuse of power/hypocrisy seems to be
    What is clear is that, slimy or not, she still used her office in an inappropriate manner to influence the outcome of a family dispute. What's ethical about that? The slimy trooper and the disposition of his divorce/custody case is supposed to be left up to the family courts and it not typically resolved by manipulation and interference by the Governor's office, now is it? Ethically challenged ethics clean-up maiden. Not my idea of a great pick.
    Assessing sincerity vs hypocrisy of
    nm
    Not deflecting....just showing your hypocrisy.
    Acceptable in a Democrat, does not affect his ability to be President...but a Republican is a poon dog.

    Takes the air out of the criticism somewhat doncha think?
    Hypocrisy is aplogizing and blaming someone else
    Voters are tired...real tired...of this party's double speak.
    You know, I hate hypocrisy. You want to direct me
    back to God's Word?

    When you can show me in God's Word where He approves of what Osambo approves, then we can talk.

    Let's talk abortion, gay marriage, taxes, lying, cheating, subversion of government, indoctrination of preschoolers, redefining marriage, etc., a whole litany of what Osambo stands for and compare it to God Almighty's Word.

    I warn you in advance. You are up against an adversary you do not want to tackle with because you are ill prepared to defend your comments and beliefs in the light of Scripture.

    Ready to go for it, old girl?

    Let's talk about the Clinton family hypocrisy on...
    law enforcement, and then the Kennedy family hypocrisy on law enforcement...if we are going to talk about ANY family and law enforcement in politics...shall we??
    And the word is hypocrisy, thanks for proving my point!
    Making a generalized statement about the tremendous crowds that Obama draws being moochers is really about the most pathetic, ridiculous thing I have ever heard.  You make me laugh!!
    Typical Republicant hypocrisy. Ya gotta love it!

    He questions "whether encouraging homemakers to become lawyers contributes to the common good," and then he turns around and marries a LAWYER!


    This isn't surprising to me at all.  Bush's is doing nothing but taking us backwards in time, whether it regards science or civil rights.  The only area that is moving forward by leaps and bounds and progressing at an alarming rate is the price of gasoline.


    Excellent post!!!! The hypocrisy is astounding...Very good info! nm


    Where is this coming from? sm
    When you same something this inflammatory, this hateful, this destructive, and this untrue, you need to give a source other than your personal opinion.
    No, I don't get where you are coming from.....
    Did a gay/lesbian person EVER push their lifestyle on you? If so, they were simply classless people. I have never had that happen with couples (2 separate people tried to hit on me, same sex, but, they erroneously thought I was of the same ilk). What people do in their bedroom is their own business. I was raised in a small town, my family was well acquainted with several gay couples. One of the ladies was a very powerful deputy sheriff who commanded respect and who also owned half the town. She was one of the most intelligent, fascinating people I have ever met. I was raised to look at it as a non-issue. It didn't change who those people were. We loved them no matter what.
    this coming from the
    person who told another poster to "shut up" recently.  War, economy, health care.  We are dealing with horrific problems here.
    Where are you coming from?

    The post that Zville put up had only 2 responses besides yourself.  How that has anything to do with "rabid Republicans" and the rest of your post is out of line.  No one but you mentioned the different parties. 


     


    What is coming......sm
    No need to check this out on Snopes because it won't be there. This actually happened to a friend's friend and my friend told me about it.

    I ordered a pizza and when the delivery guy comes to the door I see he is an older guy. With a heavy accent he pointed to my yard sign and said "That is right, no Obama, yes McCain." I nodded in approval and said "Thats right!" and he went on to say "I lived 37 years under a communist government, and what is coming, is communism."

    Now, if that don't scare ya straight, I don't know what will.
    Coming to the top with you...

    I just didn't want this message to get lost below.


    This post is nothing but an opinion by an unidentified author from an obscure website.  This website is run by a guy named Jeff Rense.  He also does a radio talk show about UFO sightings.  Nice research there partner!


     


    no one is coming
    since you are making a racist remark against whites, you need to know I am black and I too have a gun and ammo. You think only white people have that? And I too am a conservative and I suppose you would consider me right wing, if you want to give it a name. I am a God fearing person whom you call hyper-religious. I am against abortion and believe we have the right to bear arms.

    Need to reassess your own views first.
    The coming
    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/7901


    where is this coming from - seriously? nm
    x
    Isn't that coming anyway?
    Government is getting more and more control over things.  If they take control of everything.....what makes you think they won't tell us how to live, where to live, what we can buy, etc.
    How would you like somebody coming
    into your house and taking it away from you? Not every people accepts this, because it is wrong.
    You don't even know who I am, I only started coming here.
    x
    Indictments coming down
    One to ffive indictments coming down.  Those involved have already been told.  Indictments are sealed until tomorrow.
    And the funnies keep on coming.

    I hope for your sake that laws are never changed to require a voter to have a double-digit IQ.


    Exactly! Coming together as Americans...
    and out from under all "labels" is where the answer lies. No one truly believes in Democracy anymore. In days gone by, yes, there would be grousing going up to election, a little grousing after election, then we were all friends again until the next election cycle. All this polarization is ridiculous, and disliking someone strictly on their political stance, and saying silly things like "I have known people like you all my life" and focusing that frustration on one person they don't even know...how silly is that?? I suppose because they can't confront those people in "real life" they come here to unload on strangers. It is truly my way or the highway, and it is that way on BOTH sides. Would it not be wonderful to be Americans first and liberals or conservatives or polka-dotted SECOND?


    Keep 'em coming.
    I’m going to take a page out of your book again and simply jump over this latest denial/dodge of yours...just like you did with the context post. Blame game bluster scores no points here. The ignorance seems to be unending, but at least you could try to know your own party platform. Think you can handle that?

    Bottom line. This is so simple, even you can get it. Dems would impose the R-words (regulatiions and restrictions) on the transnationals....back in the day, we called it monopoly busting. Pubs give them the keys to the candy store, the greed of the wealthy being what it is and all. Gotta keep those CEOs perks coming.

    We can all see how well that has worked for us. One does not have to look too far to see just how inept the party has been over the past 8 years in all things economic. Huge surplus transformed to deepest deficit of all times, virtually overnight, gas/food, bank foreclosures, housing crisis, rising unemployment, wage stagnation, inflation/recession. Bush’s latest brilliant explanation for all this is that “Wall Street got drunk. It has a hangover. Don’t know how long it will take them to sober up.” This would be the extent of his experience? Scarey. Maybe he has been reading McCain's joke book. The candidate tells us that the economy “is not his strong suit.” Disarmingly honest, but none to comforting. Speaks for itself.

    Touched on this in the economics paragraph in the context post, but you chose to ignore that...or, in your own words, maybe that was the one you were not paying attention to, I forget. In fact, no response from you, Sam, speaks volumes and sheds a whole lot more light on the subject than anything you might actually come out and try to say. Go figure.

    Ok, I understand where you are coming from...
    we just agree to disagree on this. Politicians say slanderous things about each other all the time...it is the nature of the beast. And the presidential election year is when all these kinds of books come out, with innuendo and stuff from "unnamed sources" on both sides.

    But bottom line, all the things I know about Obama and the company he keeps and the things he has done in his political life are much more concerning to me than whether or not John McCain called his wife a vulgar name. With only these two choices, mine will have to be McCain.

    I am not sure your statement of "he is a mean and nasty person all around" is a fair characterization either. He and his wife have been involved with many charitable efforts, mostly to do with children. Have you read about their adopted daughter?

    That being said, you are certainly entitled to your opinion and to state it, as am I. :) Have a good evening.


    I have been coming to this board off and on

    for a while now, usually just stay quiet because I don't agree with half of what either side says and I really don't like all the bashing part of politics.  Some of the things said here and other places are quite disgusting, the bickering I can handle and actually enjoy reading, but when it gets to that base level it is just disturbing to me.  But, here is my question.  And, I'll preface it by saying that I am a Republican but am finding myself more of an independent after the last 8 years.


    For all the people spouting off the virtues of Sarah Palin, I have not heard one comment in her defense or an excuse for her about her part in that whole radio morning show.  You know the one, where the radio DJ was making fun, being cruel really, about a the President of the Senate in Alaska that he, nor SP like.  You know the part when he called her fat and SP just laughed, when he called this woman a BI*CH and she just laughed, when he called this woman a cancer and she just laughed (BTW, this woman actually had cancer and they knew that).  Sure, she later said she was "caught off guard" by his comment.  Whatever.  Wouldn't a decent human being have just said, Stop.  I'm not going to take part in this.  Any number of things.  If she was so caught off guard by that, what is she going to do as VP.  And, how does she end the whole conversation.  When the DJ makes a comment about visiting Palin, she says "I'd be honored to have you."


    This is probably my #1 problem with her.  She seems to have a total lack of compassion.  She enjoyed bashing Obama during her speech the other night, and I was disgusted to see that the audience seemed to enjoy it too.  I have worked within my community and I am proud of that, as should Obama be.  I didn't hear a whole lot in her speech about what she plans to do, or what her actual stand on issues are.  I didn't hear much of them from McCain either. 


    I dare say that if these 2 keep letting her evade the tough questions, well any questions at all, I might be crossing lines this year.  Yes, it seems that the media, or certain media, are unnecessarily attacking her but I hope that doesn't become an excuse for them to have her not answer questions.


    I used to be pro-Obama, but so much keeps coming out (sm)

    To be honest, I am not really thrilled about either of our choices, however, Obama scares me more...


    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7145283472276068711&ei=5DTUSIvKFoPo-AGg7omyAg&q=Look%2C+I+got+two+daughters+%E2%80%94+9+years+old+and+6+years+old%2C%22+he+said.+%22I+am+going+to+teach+them+first+about+values+and+morals%2C+but+if+they+make+a+mistake&vt=lf&hl=en


    Okay. Whatever. You just do not get where I am coming from. Forget it.
    I DO NOT LIKE EITHER CANDIDATE. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. Thank you. Blast Obama, Blast McCain. The ECONOMY is the problem right now. But nobody seems to care about that. Just constant bashing, and scare tactics. Done with the whole thing. Bye.
    where are the cuts coming from?
    who is losing out ESPECIALLY when he has all these plans for additional government programs?
    It's coming along great!

    I just  have myself involved in so much that I don't have enough time as I would like to devote to it. I'm going to start teaching classes at a local Teen  Ranch.  They have acreage and will be able to raise their own gourds, make gourd art and sell it  to raise money.  Here's a link to their website http://www.arkansasteenchallenge.org/  Well, that's the website anyway, I can never get the link thing to work.


    Tues. and Wed.morning this week I did a field trip for the local 4th and 5th grade classes (212 of them) at the Cane Hill College Building and spoke to them about the history of the college (it was the first college west of the Mississipi and is said to have fostered the public education system in Arkansas.)   It was turned into a public school around the turn of the century.  I was apprehensive about speaking to these kids but guess I did okay, one of the students said she wished she could go to school just 1 day like the kids did who attended school there.  A teacher quickly picked up on that idea and we're making plans to take one class at a time and give them such a day.  The last class was in the 1950s so the kids will dress in period clothing (no pants and they will divide up in groups and the teacher will teach 3 "grade" levels to simulate how it was done when it was a school.  Long story about the reasons but I will take my huge cauldron pot and make stew over a wood fire and they will have soup, peanut butter and SYRUP sandwiches, dessert and milk for lunch.  Of course parent volunteers will be there helping me.


    Sorry about so much personal information but I get really excited about things I believe in and that also includes our government and it's serious need for change.


    i have no doubt He is coming
    than we think.
    This coming from the very person

    who didn't know what sm and NM meant and thought every person using sm was the same person. 


    At least I'm not blinded by the promise of change from a man who has no experience running anything but his mouth.


    The End of the World Is Coming!
    As long as the folks get a rise out of ya, they will continue to post it. 
    GP - I'm really trying to understand where you are coming from
    I just don't understand it. I don't want to argue I want to understand why you feel this way. Forget who supports who. I don't care if you support the same person as me or not. I don't care how many days until election. It could be 100 or it could be 1. If you hear Obama's voice and he says very clearly and even democrats on TV are saying "tell me he didn't say that". But his own voice (and he does not deny he said it) that he will bankrupt any investor in coal power plants, and then in his own voice he said that he will make energy prices skyrocket, why don't you believe it.

    Again, I could care less about how many days there are til the election. It's Obama's voice saying this and I'd really like to know why you don't believe it. My MIL is like this and I can't have a conversation with her because when I ask her today why she doesn't believe it she told me because Bush is the antichrist and Obama would never say anything like that because he is the savior of our country. I asked her what she meant and she said everyone is trying to demonize Obama and those weren't his words. So I couldn't get a straight answer from her. So maybe you can explain if you hear Obama saying this why you don't believe it.