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The way some read the board, you can't take their observations very seriously.

Posted By: Zauber on 2005-10-01
In Reply to: On reading this board, gt has made generalizations about everything. But - TM

Some people only see what they want to see, and what they set out to see.

Let's not be stupidly single-eyed here. You can pick out any person on the board (those who sign a name, at least) and screech that they're generalizing, and you'd be right - including you and including me. Big fat so what. We do it to make a point quickly or to give a general subject view or for a lot of reasons - but we all know that when we diss the rich we're not talking about every single rich person in the world, we're talking about that particular group of them whose ethics and moral values we find repugnant.

It would make discussion totally impossible if we had to qualify every reference we make to certain groups or political parties and single out every detail in a reference when people following the conversation ought to know to whom we are referring - that's just normally expected in a rapid fire conversation, at least for those who are genuinely interested in one.




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Observations based in truth are not smears
Go gourdpainter.
Those ain't insults, they are observations! Man you guys R thin-skinned! LOL! NM

Please don't read this board

for accurate information regarding the candidates.  I have seen so much misinformation here and there are a couple of people who constantly distort the truth and make things up.  If you want the truth, get it from the newpapers and news programs and make an educated decision.  Most of the news programs are putting accurate information out there, with the excpetion of Fox and MSNBC.  


Better read the board again, almost everyone on it

Some on this board can only read what they want to read (nm)
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You might want to read the letter on the other board.
The one from the young Marine who says that the fighting forces in Iraq feel that the antiwar movement is enabling and strengthening the forces they are fighting.  If that is not putting our troops in danger, I am not sure what is. 
How many skinheads do you think read this board...
or pay attention to what any of us might say? Get a grip!! Reverend Wright is all over the internet. THAT is the kind of thing that inflames skinheads and their ilk. His wife saying for the first time in her adult life she is proud of her country. THAT is the kind of thing that incites skinheads. Have you read the black liberation theology statement?

You are the one who needs to get real. I am on no "high horse." I don't care what color Obama is. He is a socialist, bordering on Marxist, and THAT is my problem with him, and would be my problem with him if he was white. Or Hispanic. Or Asian. Or any OTHER color.
This board is for anyone FREE, I can read anything I want.
I just don't have to post. I'm not looking for trouble. You are with your hateful posts.
Do you read anything except the posting board?
The cause of our economic meltdown was the housing meltdown. You can't blame that one on Bush. He and old McCain have been warning about it for years, but the majority Dem Congress (especially Mr. Frank and Mr. Dodd) turned a blind eye to the whole thing. Mr. Frank is on video saying, loosely quoted, "Doesn't matter if Fannie and Freddie fail. The government won't bail them out." It was all that bad fannie and freddie paper that those wall street types had bought up that crashed the market when all those bad mortgages went south...bad mortgages that the Dems insisted be given out, to people who they knew could not afford the payments, so "every american could have the american dream." Well, now we have the american nightmare. If you want to stay in denial and somehow claim this was Bush's fault, go ahead. Does not change the truth of what happened. I don't agree with everything Bush did for sure. But the "pubs" as you guys like to call them are on the right side of this issue.

And it doesn't take a Messiah...or petty hatefulness...to figure this out. Look at what is happening, what Obama has done so far, and if you can see the silver lining, please to show it to me.

I have a friend in Massachusetts who is as liberal a Democrat as they come, and he told me yesterday, about Obama: "He IS a socialist. No doubt about it." It only took him 2 months to realize it...after a year of telling me he wasn't. So, not all you are wearing blinders. lol. And a socialist is what it is, and does what it does. This country functioned beautifully on capitalism for many years and it would have recovered on capitalism as it had in the past. But Mr. Obama is doing his dead level best to kill that, kill the entrepreneurial spirit, kill ambition, kill what made this country great. If Obama really cared about the poor and unfortunate he would put them to work, not pay them to vegetate. Trite though it sounds...they need a hand pulling them up, not pushing them down.
Post it on the con board. I'll read it. nm

You might want to read another article by an Iranian on the other board.
It helps to know both sides of the story and since I am pretty sure Beth is not in Iran right now, or Iranian in nationality, the one who IS there might have a better handle on things. Get the picture?
That's the most sensible thing I've read on this board
in a looooong time.  Why should somebody who works hard (or inherits) for their money have to pay more taxes than someone who makes (or inherits) less money.  Everybody paying the same - that is equality. 
Then you didn't read the article on the conservative board. nuff said.

I get amazed every time I come on this board and read "strong Christians" who consistently pas
(Didn't Jesus have something very wise and definite to say about that?), insult and degrade "heathens" if their spiritual beliefs are not EXACTLY those of the mainstream right, even though they supposedly love this country which was founded on religious freedom and tolerance for ALL; cast stones every which way (Jesus also had a lot of good stuff to say about that)....yeah, they can proclaim to know it all if they do it under the "true Christian" banner. Here is a question. If you died this second and had to defend some of these insulting inflammatory statement on this board, other than the fact of saying to Him "I was being a Christian," do you think Jesus would take that as an excuse, or would he shake his head in sadness that you really didn't get "all of the story" of the New Testament, where love, tolerance, mercy, forgiveness, and HUMILITY wer preached to all???????
So you and your buds bash us on *your* board and suddenly, once you reach this board,

some respect?


You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*


Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.


You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.


That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS.  Your posts don't show respect.  They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.


You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?


Please.  Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.


You're becoming quite a bore.  You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight.  You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board.  Maybe that should work both ways.


Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all.  You believe in SUPERIORITY.  Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else.  Sheesh!  You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.


You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred. 


In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate.  I've seen them.  (I hope you don't chase them away, too.)  But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.


Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.


Can we bring the board back to the true reason for the board

Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate.  Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.


I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc.  After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come.  Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.


I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates.  What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board.  Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin.  You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.


Another thing I am tired of seeing is the slanderous, hate filled, really off the wall comments about Sarah Palin.  The latest was something about her daughter actually had her baby.  Talk about just bizarre comments.  I thought what’s next, she’s an alien from another planet?  The more I kept reading the more the comments were getting just really weird and bizarre.  Of course nobody ever having any proof of any of these allegations.  I then came to realize that the posters were just trying to get a fight going.


I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam.  Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics.  I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the”  This childish rhetoric is getting old.  I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics.  If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.


I’ve read the administrators post a couple different times called Beware of Flaming.  She/he said as long as we realize that not everyone is going to agree we shouldn’t wear our feelings on our sleeves and a little more oversight on here would be good.  Let people express his or her opinion and move on.  If you don’t like someone just ignore that person. “It’s not rocket science, you know” (I liked that statement)


I consider posting on this board a privilege and not a right.  If you don’t agree with something and you post that you don’t agree and state the facts why (and are civilized about it) that’s one thing, but when you bash and degrade others without showing proof and just want to start fights and belittle others it just seems a bit juvenile to me.


I come to the politics board to hear ideas and stuff (facts) about the candidates.  That is how I’m learning about each one, but I don’t want to read people attack other posters for no good reason.  I'd like to hear about Obama/Biden & McCain/Palin, but I want to hear facts.


If you like to fight so much why don’t you pick on people that you can fight to face to face. 


Your on the wrong board - you need to preach on the faith board
You just delivered a sermon (or quote). Either way it doesn't belong here. What does this have to do with politics. The democrat and republican party did not start up until after the 1800s. Socialism also wasn't created until the 1800s.

To me your post describes the way humans should treat other humans. This has nothing to do with politics - imho.

Because you posted on the Main board not Politics board.
It was removed, as we do not have an option of moving from Main to Politics.

This could have easily been avoided had you posted on the correct board.

The response from another poster to not post political viewpoints on this board was becuase you posted it on the Main board.
the conservative board is a liberal board now
you all aren't happy until you infect everyone out there with your hatred.   It's not something I'd very proud of.
This looks interesting. A long read, so will read it when I get home from work. nm
nm
Obviously u didnt read, I said NONE of them are moral. Read the post before spouting off.

Politics board = political topics. Faith board = religious topics.

Please keep all religious/faith topics and discussions on the Faith board.  This would involve your beliefs, whether Christian or atheist, etc. 


The Politics board is strictly for political topics and discussions. 


Moderator


 


I read on CNN (yes, I do read liberal stuff too..hehe)...sm
...that Karl Rove was actually very disappointed in the McCain campaign for airing negative type ads against Obama.

So I would say that Rove is definitely not in the hip pocket of the McCain campaign.
Good research sam - but a lot to read right now so gotta read it later
I've been goofing off too much from work. I appreciate what you wrote and will read when I'm done with work here.
Ya gotta understand the rules. We have to post on this board only. They can post on any board they

sorry, should read I did not read post that way.
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All you have to do is read up on Marxism, read up on...
black liberation theology, and look at what Obama is proposing. All of it a matter of public record, most of it from his own mouth. Your denial of it does not change the facts. If you support socialism, vote for him. Certainly your right. You are already wanting to squelch any kind of dissent...what's up with that? If you seriously consider calling someone a socialist a smear, you really need to read up on your candidate. I did not post a smear, I posted a fact. Redistribution of wealth is socialist and he already said he was going to do it...I heard him say it and it is now a campaign commercial. Sigh.
READ THE ARTICLE-READ OTHER
READERS COMMENTS!!!
If you leave our board, I'll leave your board.

Well when one board
makes threats against a sitting president the rules change quite a bit.....
Look down board. sm.
They have no real concept of war.  They don't understand that people are actually shooting at one another, and it affects families for decades, the price of so-called "Freedom" as he calls it.    They have the Texan attitude, go kick butt, and while none of their's are over there, they cannot experience the true consequences of war, just wave their little flags and have no idea that war is freaking WAR.  I hate this.  They are not conservative - what is conservative about running up the deficit to the degree that it is at now - that is certainly not conservative.  This war thing is just a CNN thing to them - something only happening on TV, something to occupy their time, they have no idea of how badly it can hurt and scar; they are as clueless as their leader.
You best look again at the other board.

I'm off the board
you have mistaken the above poster for me.
Again, I'm off the board

no other comments will be made by me other than to straighten out the fact that I'm not posting here anymore.


It's all over the board. nm

Come on over to the C-board
You will be understood and accepted there. You are casting your pearls before swine here. These people are not the mainstream in America, believe me.

I am Christian, but sympathize greatly with the plight of the Jewish people.
Oh yes, mam, right here on this board. SM
Him and his whole family.  Yessirree.  It happened. 
You must be new to the board...nm
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This board
This has been a very intolerant board for years. I think it just gets worse at election time. I come here on and off, depending on how busy I am and how feisty I feel! They are intolerant, but I don't really care. I guess they think their nastiness is going to convince people to see things their way, NOT!

Go Obama!
Exactly ...but those on this board don't want
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Does anyone on this board
Because my understanding is that Obama is only raising taxes on people making more than this amount, & the increase would only be for the amount over 250K, & that rate would be the same as it was under Clinton.

On the one hand it's "taking from the rich & giving to the poor" -- & on the other hand, I can't get too upset because some millionaire is only going to get an 18-carat toilet bowl instead of a 24-carat-gold one. & there are so many loopholes in the tax laws, they're going to employ legions of accountants to make sure they write off enough to bring their taxes down to something they're more comfortable with anyway -- probably less than what I pay.

Obama has said a number of times that he wants to end tax breaks for companies that offshore. Now THAT affects me directly. It's an incentive to keep jobs in the US, & that seems to be the subject of a LOT of talk on this board of late.

I'm not registered as a Democrat. I'm actually a Libertarian, but I have a feeling that this election I'm going to vote Democratic. Sarah Palin clinched that deal. What a ditz. I'd be embarrassed to have her represent this country. If you haven't heard her talk yet, go to youtube & find her interview with Katie Couric, & read the NY Times for a long list of very eloquent, VERY conservative columnists who do not like her at all & who talk about the Republican party insiders who wanted her removed from the ticket because she is clearly unprepared to lead the country. What can you say about someone who cannot name a single Supreme Court decision besides Roe v Wade, who cannot name a single publication that contributed to her world view or political philosophy, who thinks that her geographic proximity to Russia constitutes a foreign policy credential, who does not know what causes global warming, who cannot even name a single piece of legislation her own running mate was responsible for in his 26 years in public office?? Good grief. McCain's underestimation of the American public's intelligence is demeaning & has destroyed any credibility he ever had with me, & believe me, he used to have some. I'm still waiting to hear her answer a single question with intelligence & depth, turn every question into an opportunity to spew her predigested, scripted talking points because she simply doesn't have anything else.

Anyway. I digress. The issue was taxes.
Not on this board, lol!
nm
then why are u still on the board nm
:)
I'm not sure it came from this board but (sm)

it is not someone that I have any friendship with, so I was just questioning if anyone was getting these. If I was positive it came from this board, I would have reported it.


Then why oh why are you on this board?
I see such race hating, race baiting, hatred, on and on. There are still people with racist issues -they are all over this board.
You just let everyone here on this board KNOW exactly HOW you think..
and I am glad to know that the majority of people here do not have your hateful and rabidly racist bent.
What about what YOU said on the conservative board?

I try not to visit the bog of eternal stench. Funny though...sm


The very people who whine about "intelligent debate" now have whole threads devoted to crying to their mommy about being asked to be respectful. Pitiful.


 


I agree - please only one board
I liked it so much better the other way. Being an independent who usually votes Republican, I like to see exchange of ideas, even if it gets somewhat heated at times. I think most people have enough sense to know that Americans have the right to their opinions, and enjoy a lively debate. That is JUST MY OPINION, if anyone cares.
Sorry, thought I was on the C board

I won't post here again....it was a mistake.  If you want to answer the question or flame me that's fine.  I'm not on my own computer right now, and flipped me back to this board....sorry.


Wrong board

Actually, I'm not sure you went to the wrong board at all.  If you chose "Politics" in general and you saw the headline of the post and clicked on it, you automatically wind up there and don't necessarily realize that's where you're at.  Even Nan and American Girl have done that, and I believe those errors of theirs is still on this page.


If this post of yours is an example of how you post, I can't understand why in the world you would be banned, but then again, I can't understand why three certain posters on that board get AREN'T banned, so I guess I just don't understand much about this place.  I note that they kept Nan's post calling someone a "slimy bottom dweller," as well as all their other posts where they attack posters.


My personal opinion is that if you want to be free to think independently and express that opinion without being ganged up on and attacked, then maybe you should continue to post on this board.  I personally am interested in what you have to say.  Although I just visited the Conservative board, and for the first time in a long time, find it to be a peaceful place where people are starting to debate again without being attacked by those three.  Unfortunately, I doubt that will last very long.  They will be back if they aren't already, and whatever goodness is there now will be once again destroyed and people won't be allowed to express their opinions without being attacked.


Again, I can't even begin to understand why you've been banned in the past, and if your post is an example of what the monitor had to "put up with," by all means PLEASE keep posting because I think you're definitely a breath of fresh air!  Welcome!! 


create another board
You know, what this bulletin *system* needs is a bashing board.  I used to post at a relatively calm board and some wanted to pick fights no matter what..The owner in her wisdom created a bashing board where those who have anger, upset, whatever and wanted to bash could and could also leave those other boards alone which did not want turmoil. Maybe the owners here could do that. I dont know who owns this board.  I have been told it no longer is owned by the owner of MTstars..Maybe if the owner reads this, he or she will create another board for **Political wars**..