Then why aren't you telling that to the poster
Posted By: who said them? NM on 2008-10-23
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Nope, done debating you. You aren't debatable, as reality check said about another poster. nm
So Christians aren't supposed to political? Or we aren't supposed to let our morality, faith
our conscience guide us politically?
I'm sorry, that is a separation I cannot make. My faith and religious convictions are part of the whole person that I am. I vote my conscience. I want political leaders who reflect my morality. I also happen to believe there are many Christians out there like me. There is no "separation" of church and state for me, which by the way was a concept (nowhere specifically mentioned in the constitution) meant to protect the church from the government more so than the government from the church.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that commercial. There are condom commercials, "personal" lubricant commercials, and penis and sexual performance enhancing commercials -- why would anyone be offended by a pro-life commercial? The fact that anyone would be offended is a testament to just how twisted society has become!
Isn't that what you are doing? Telling me...
what to think and what to do? You can state you want free license to kill babies and I can't say I am against that? Get over YOURself.
We are telling you (sm)
The Bible tells us in several books, particularly Revelations. For someone who does not believe, read it as a history book. The fact that everything it says is coming to pass is undeniable. I don't necessarily think Obama is the anti-Christ. I do think everything else is coming to pass though, and we need to be looking for who the anti-Christ is. I have had my doubts in the past about my religion as well, but it is undeniable that the things the Bible predicts will happen are truly happening now.
So, you are telling us that you never
support Bush as our President and yet you expect everyone now to be bubbling over with excitement and accept Obama just because you do and pour our support behind him from day one. It is people like you who are so blind-sided and selfish and think only about yourself. You have been mully-grubbing Bush for 8 long years, so you never once gave him a chance. Obama has not even taken office yet and you are already deliriously happy, how do you know he is going to give you reason to beam with pride? You, along with a whole host of others, are such a foolish child.
You are really telling 1 now, for example
I was on the gab board yesterday and you came over there and started throwing your opinions around at something I said. You should tell the truth (but I guess most on her know about you anyway)- maybe it is just not like you to tell the truth. You gang up on anyone first. Why the capitalization- afraid you cant be heard good enough? Why don’t you just slime away.
Nobody is telling you anything
"You don't know how to be happy without a piece of paper?" Well if that is the case then you and your husband should not be allowed to be married either. Can't you two be happy without a piece of paper. What kind of ludicrous thing to say.
I am a human being. I should have the same rights you do to be able to marry whom I want to. You sit and tell me I should be happy with being discriminated against. Is that what you said about the blacks who had to ride in the back of the bus and not be allowed to sit up with the white folks (before Rosa Parks) - "you should just be happy to be able to ride the bus". Or how about not being able to drink out of the same water fountain as the white folks - "you should just be happy your getting any water at all".
And I'm sick and tired of hearing how we should just be happy to be together and not be afforded the same things that other human beings are afforded. When I can't make decisions about my other halves health care or other issues then yeah, that bothers me. When her family hates us because we are gay and takes everything we have lived for away from us, yeah, then that bothers me.
And you you know...when Judy and Barbara get married in the sight of God, their minister, and witnesses yes, that is "lawful" and their marriage license will say so, and you can say what you want - it means nothing.
But don't sit there and say I can get married but you can't. You can keep your moral values all you want, just stop spreading that type of bigotry. We're are not pushing anything down your throat. We want to get married and live our lives without anyone interfering with us.
You talk about twisting and manipulating. God loves everyone and there is nothing to prove that God disapproves of gay or lesbian marriage. In fact if Judy is dying and nobody will take care of her but Barbara I think God will love her probably a bit more than those who are hateful and bigotted towards them and would let Judy sit and rot in a hospital bed. So don't sit there and twist God's intent into something you want to believe. After we're all gone and moved on in lives I'm sure we will know whether or not God was displeased with us. And for those who are trying their hardest to keep the others unhappy. I'm sure "He'll" have some pretty strong words for them.
God made us human. We are all not perfect by any means. You need to get a clue! God loves all of us whether or not you want to believe that. Yeah, get a clue!
BTW - in case you haven't noticed, you are not god and by your posts I'm sure not going to believe anything you have to say as though you know what Gods intents are because you don't.
OMG! Are you telling me
that N. Korea wouldn't do horrible things to prisoners unless we start it first? Is that what you are saying? Seriously....I'd much rather be a prisoner in Gitmo getting waterboarded than be a prisoner in N. Korea. And honestly.....who the he!! would know what we do to our prisoners unless our brainless wonder of a president didn't decide to broadcast it to the world for his witch hunts. Sheesh. This is what happens when people want to know every little detail during a war. The stuff gets leaked out, our country is torn between the people who agree and the people who don't, and then other countries not only see us fighting amongst ourselves but they also know exactly what we are doing.
No one is telling
you that you can't have orgies and commit sodomy in your own home till the cows come home. What you do in your own home is your business, not the government's. What rights have been taken from the homosexual community? None that I can see. If you're talking marriage--a man has the right to marry a woman and a woman has the right to marry a man, regardless of your sexual dysfunctions.
and telling everyone...no demanding
that everyone feel the way they do. Yes...ugly and evil. UNPATRIOTIC AND ANTI-AMERICAN.
Never, not in any post, did I say God was telling me to do anything...
nice smokescreen, but a lie. Apparently some people do need training on the stages of pregnancy when they claim that all is aborted is a "blob" of tissue. That is a way to justify it in minds, yes...but it is not the truth. You would think people would at least want to know what they are supporting or choosing. But it is much more difficult when you assign form, a beating heart, things that signify a living human being.
If posts on abortion tire you, for the love of Pete don't read them! How hard is that?? Just pass right on over it. Post the issues that are important to you...like your job, the econonmy, the war, your social security. By the way, while you are researching social security, check what administration had control the first time it was raided to fund other social programs.
Again...do not attribute things to me that I did not say. Abortion is a religious issue to some, a moral issue to all. Do you think you have to be "religious," a Christian, or "know God" in order to be pro life? I beg to differ. You obviously are not a religious person, but that does not mean you are not a moral person, does it? Of course not. I believe abortion to be morally wrong, just like I believe capital punishment to be morally wrong. I believe stealing is morally wrong. I believe cheating on your spouse is morally wrong. I believe pedophilia is morally wrong. And you don't have to be "religious" to believe ANY of those things are morally wrong.
And if that chaps you, so be it. I don't have to apologize to you for standing against what I believe to be morally wrong.
I am tired of being attacked over and over as well, but I guess we will both just have to put up with it, won't we?
Yessss, just keep telling yourself that... sm
BTW, the GOP already filed a lawsuit in Ohio over this early voting and they lost. Stings doesn't it?
Telling someone to "buzz off"
is sort of like someone swearing.........it shows a decidedly limited vocabulary.
no telling where this will lead.
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Rush telling it like it is...(sm)
"Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream."
"The difference between Los Angeles and yogurt is that yogurt comes with less fruit. "
"He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting." --on an ad by Michael J. Fox endorsing Claire McCaskill for Senate for supporting embryonic stem cell research
"This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation...I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of the need to blow some steam off?" --on the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal
"And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs,
using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good
because we know what happens to people in societies and
neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if
people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought
to be accused and they ought to be convicted and
they ought to be sent up."
"I am addicted to prescription pain medication."
"Why should Blacks be heard? They're 12% of the population.
Who the hell cares."
"One of the things I want to do before I die is conduct the
homeless olympics...the 10-metre shopping cart relay,
the dumpster dig, and the hop, skip, and trip."
"The only way to reduce the number of nuclear weapons is to use them."
Awesome leader you have there!
Nobody's telling her she doesn't have a right to speak.sm
She just needs to realize that everyone does not feel the way she does and YES, I have family members who are in Iraq right now who do not support this war, so the OP was not exactly right.
My point is, he is telling a different story now...
that he is writing a book than he did under oath in front of Congress. There has to be a reason for that. He still says he was wrong in the intelligence, he admits that he said *slam dunk* in reference to WMD, and he said in the congressional hearings that he believed there was WMD. Now he says different. Now he is trying to say that, in so many words, they wanted to go to war so badly that they believed his bad intelligence. That is NUTS, I am sorry, and I don't need a news outlet of any bent to tell me that. I watched him testify before COngress on TV. I know what he said. He is not the only one who believed it...a lot of intelligence agencies all over the world believed it. He just does not want his legacy to be that he gave the wrong intelligence that started the war. Well..too late. He was the head of the CIA and the buck stops there. He has already been caught in two lies. Perle was not even in the country at the time Tenet says he talked to him. Tenet lied. They have the documentation that Perle was in another country for Pete's sake. At this point I don't believe a word the man says. As to Clark...do some research on him and you will see that he was saying the same things as Tenet to the Clinton administration. Guess he believed it when he was saying it, but not when Tenet was saying it. The issue here, however, is not Clark and Powell. It is Tenet. He was the head of the CIA. Either he is lying now in the book or he lied under oath in front of Congress. Either way, he is a liar, in my opinion.
Strange, they keep telling us in Oregon...
That it will all come down to us.
I certainly hope that's true because we hate Hillary AND McCain. 
With all due respect....you are telling me to back off? lol.
Whether I ever win or not does not matter...I will not stop the battle and I will not cease calling it what it is...horrific torture/murder of the unborn. I feel the unborn have the right to life, just like you have a right to life. I advocate for both of you. You want to fight for the right to murder the unborn and give others the right to murder their unborn in the name of YOUR uterus, YOUR choice, that is your prerogative. Just like fighting against it is mine. Last time I looked, that is every American's right. If Darryl Hannah can climb a tree to save it, I think I should be allowed to speak on behalf of the unborn. Lotsa times she doesn't save the tree, bhut she is still gonna climb'em. Sheesh.
The job: Busybody. The life: Telling everyone
nm
So are you telling us that OBAMA is a freak
being a Christian and all???
You don't believe in freedom of religion. You are against Christianity. Oh, except for O, he can be...because he is your personal savior?
Wow, telling statement at the end of that post sm
"But Obama knows what con men have long known, that their job is not to convince skeptics but to enable the gullible to continue to believe what they want to believe. He does that very well.”
Oh, and you are a real "class act" telling someone
to "buzz off."
You're not telling the truth.
One more time, THIS IS FROM OBAMA'S WEBSITE. Point out where it says "required" or "mandatory" or any other such similar word. The word "REQUIRED" came from the propaganda site -- it was invented -- and linked to Obama's site.
BELOW IS WHAT CAME FROM OBAMA'S SITE:
America Serves
"When you choose to serve -- whether it's your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood -- you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That's why it's called the American dream."
The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
http://change.gov/americaserves/
I was just telling my opinion in my 1st post.
Isn't this what this forum is about, posting one's opinion? What's your problem, getting all aggressive. This is the last comment I am reading or giving regarding this thread. So, do not even bother posting.
Once again you wasted a whole paragraph telling me how stupid I am SM
without a SINGLE FACT! I give up with you. You are just too much (or too little). Whateva!
All the while telling us how hateful WE are. Totally clueless. nm
Telling someone to leave the country is worse than
.
Ron Paul was the only one telling you the truth about the economy. sm
He was mocked, ignored, and called a kook. I guess we will see who was wearing tin foil when this whole system crumbles.
Wall Street Rescue Worst Legislation Ever.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.smith08oct08,0,1221284.column
I'm voting for Obama. That's what I'm telling the pollsters.
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I am telling you the action is on the Faith Forum
The election is over and Christmas is probably not coming. They are all getting ready for the end and it is very interesting. I myself hoard spam just in case, and water, and cat liter, but not much else. Good Luck!
I e-mailed my senators telling them the same thing! nm
nm
Ahmadinejad is doiing what Khatami is telling him to do..
I think that Ahmadinejad feels miserable now with so many protests.
Even the 1st election of Anmadinejad is said to have been a fraud.
Your continued refusal to answer the question is very telling.
Why would I ask a Jewish person if he or she were allowed to go to heaven according to someone's Christian beliefs? Wouldn't that be silly? And you're right. It has nothing to do with whether Jews go to heaven. But it has everything to do with whether you go to heaven or not, right? Is your undying, unquestioning loyalty to Israel because you love Jews who will never be good enough to go to heaven according to your religion, or is because of the real estate the Jews inhabit in Israel?
You yourself wrote: Then there is no Biblical alternative to supporting Israel and the Jewish people.
One more time: DO JEWS GO TO HEAVEN?
If you again refuse to answer that, then my next question is where in the Bible does it say that said hypocrisy and disingenuousness are next to Godliness?
You also wrote: If you are truly, then, a nonbeliever, it explains much of what I am seeing here.
And: Are you all nonbelievers here?
How can you square that with your claim that you haven't judged anyone?
How about : Stop telling the President of the United States WHAT functions
to attend and which not?
I think O and his cabinet are doing a better job in this than you.
You have to check and double check every single thing they say. They're not capable of telling t
truth about anything. It's getting very boring and tedious to read their crap. Why won't they stay on their own board like they tell us to do?
Probably because there aren't
nearly as many of them. And I noticed the tally keeper yesterday was only tallying those posts she wanted to count. Sound like politics?
As for rabid, thanks for the enlightenment but the definition I prefer is 1 a: extremely violent : furious b: going to extreme lengths in expressing or pursuing a feeling, interest, or opinion <rabid editorials> <a rabid supporter>
CERTAINLY NOT:
2: affected with rabies
Well, though, I would hope none of the "rabid" Republicans (or Democrats) are "affected with rabies" but hey, maybe that's something to ponder. After all, rabies does affect the brain. LOL
aren't
YOU special . . .
They aren't done yet. This is just day 1 of
cutting the pork. Let's wait and see what they will do by Friday.
My calculator doesn't go that high for adding up the pork they want to cut, but I think it's more than 2%.
I will take a wait-and-see attitude with my finger on the "favorites" key to renounce them if they don't cut all the pork out.
no, they aren't.
I hate this discussion. Do you actually know any gay people? I doubt it or you would not think that way. Most people, regardless of their sexual orientation, are just trying to go about their business and live their own lives. There are always people making a big issue of something or another, whether gay or straight, and the gay population does not do so anymore than any other group. As is always the case, only those making an issue get the attention thus painting a whole population. If everyone would just keep their nose out of everyone else's business we would all be better off. Truly, another person's lifestyle is no one else's business unless it infringes on the rights of others.
Since we obviously aren't going to be able to have..(sm)
any meaningful conversation today, how about this? Keep in mind he was one of the main ones going after Clinton for having an affair. Hmmmm....
Top Republican resigns leadership post over affair
1 hour ago
WASHINGTON (AFP) — Republican US Senator John Ensign has resigned his Senate leadership post one day after admitting to an extra-marital affair, the chamber's top Republican said in a statement Wednesday.
"He's accepted responsibility for his actions and apologized to his family and constituents. He offered, and I accepted, his resignation as chairman of the Policy Committee," said Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.
The post is the fourth-ranking leadership position among Senate Republicans.
Ensign, a rising star of the Republican Party regarded as a possible contender in the 2012 presidential election, admitted to the affair at a news conference Tuesday in his home state of Nevada.
Ensign, 51, a staunch conservative with a record of strong family-values stances, vowed to remain in office after describing the affair as "absolutely the worst thing I've ever done in my life."
Nope we aren't
you can believe that but it just ain't so...
You aren't serious, surely. SM
This is the man who told the biggest lie of all time, i.e., the lie that launched the Vietnam War. HIs presidency was filled with graft and collusion. You can't be serious!
We aren't going to be THAT lucky.
Ignorance is, for whatever reason, simply not knowing something.
Like not knowing how the Downing Street memos have made your leader out to be a liar.
Like not knowing the history of our relationship to Iraq so you can make a coherent judgment about what is going on there now, and why.
Like not knowing that Bush tax cuts and budget deficits are strangling and endangering the country even worse than Reagan had a chance to do.
You know, stuff like that. Now there is plain and simple ignorance, where people just aren't exposed to the facts and so just don't know about them. Then there is also totally willful ignorance where people have every opportunity to see and understand the facts but simply refuse to do so. That's real ignorance of the kind you were probably referring to.
Going under fast, aren't they.
Starting to sound a mite peeved:) Look, person - we KNOW some people support this screw-up of a profiteering war. Like you. What don't you get about that? WE KNOW.
Now, tell us YOU KNOW that just as many - to judge by the 300,000 versus the 300, ONE HUNDRED times as many DO NOT support this mess any longer.
Why do you seem to feel that people who agree with you are somehow PROOF that yours is the only way to think? What are you going to do about the REST of those who do not believe what you do? What are you going to do when soldiers are speaking 100,000 to 1 against the war? You better think about it, because it's shaping up that way.
But you're asking for it, aren't you?
How many other boards do you go on and play devil's advocate? Do you go on the Christianity board and give the atheist's point of view? Do you go in the smoker's sections and preach quitting? Do you go to bars and brag that you're a teetotaler? How popular do you expect to be when you go to where people are happily doing their thing and start messing with them? You're mainly here to make trouble, IMHO. So when some of it comes back on you, stop whining!
Aren't you the one who WANTS states
I don't mean for that to sound rude, just an honest question. I seem to remember you saying you wanted more power to go to individual states, so do you agree with the states having control in this case? I appreciate the information and will check it out. I already know my state's income eligibility requirements and will post them below if anyone is curious. I found them at mt.gov.
For Montana:
2007 CHIP Income Chart
Effective July 1, 2007
*Annual Adjusted Gross Income (before taxes) |
Household Size
(Children and Adults) |
Household Income |
Family of 2 |
$23,958 |
Family of 3 |
$30,048 |
Family of 4 |
$36,138 |
Family of 5 |
$42,228 |
Family of 6 |
$48,318 |
Family of 7 |
$54,408 |
Family of 8 |
$60,498 |
Some employment-related and child care deductions apply.
These guidelines are effective July 1, 2007.
Income guidelines may increase in 2008.
* If a child qualifies for Medicaid, health insurance will be provided by Medicaid. |
Well aren't you just special then.
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Well, since she didn't and you aren't....
what is the point of this post other than looking down your nose and making moral judgments?
Your aren't running for VP and won't be
McCain camp made such as issue about Obama's lack of foreign travel, boasting about how many times he had been overseas to visit the troops, and claiming that made him a more viable foreign policy candidate. He openly challenged Obama to make his trip overseas, gleefully hoping that Obama would end up looking like a rookie. Obama responded in kind, met with world leaders, garnered open support from Iraq's president and turned out 250,000 Berliners for his speech. Not too shabby for a rookie. So, if there was so much flap over Obama's not having been overseas and how that made him inexperienced, what does it say about his VP pick, who applied for a passport last year? McCain can't have it both ways. This issue is being raised to point out McCain double standards.
You aren't too bright, are you?
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