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There seems to be a piece of logic that has escaped you.

Posted By: Suddenly you are claiming that....sm on 2008-11-02
In Reply to: Hawaii backs Martin - Kaydie

Hawaii DOES hold the authentic after all? Wouldn't that simply confirm that he was born in Hawaii?

After reading the piece of trash lurking behind your link, my head was spinning as I attempted to count how many times Andy the anti-Obama lunatic Martin referred to "I", "mine", and "my" in his statement. Do you not recognize a megalomaniac in the midst of trying to justify his frivolous lawsuit and vindicate his own delusions of grandeur in his claims being the smartest attorney on the face of the earth?

This is the same guy who is trying to assert that Frank Marshall Davis is the REAL biological father of Obama. You expecting to see that on on the "real, typewritten, long version" of the secret Hawaiian BC? If that were the case, then what was Obama Sr's visit with Obama all about? How about the Kenyan grandmother and brother who fringe pubs falsely claim witnessed his birth in Kenya? So Aunti Zeituni isn't REALLY his Aunti Zeituni after all? She's yesterday's news, now that you have conjured up another, more desperate smear?

Your hate machine is imploding all over itself under the weight of its own lies. If you don't get a grip on yourself, the next legal action down the pipe just may be your own state commitment papers.


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I guess the statement escaped you...
"100% of Southern Republicans voted against it."

If you look at the actual figures, it was one Senator. So I think that figure is a little misleading. And the percentages of Republicans were very much higher "yes" than the percentages of Democrats.

It also discounts the fact that the Democrats managed to stonewall it from the 1870's to the 1960's. It doesn't matter if it was by 1 vote or 5000 votes. They kept African Americans from getting the vote for 90 years. Had it not been for Republicans like Abe Lincoln, they would not have been freed in the first place. That is history and it cannot be changed. So those who like to blame Republicans for all the country's ills should also realize how instrumental Republicans were in shaping many of the GREAT things that happened in this country as well.

That is the point of the whole exercise. I think we can agree that however it finally came out, it is a blessing that it did, right?
Snipers should have taken them out when the captain escaped, but... sm
from what I understand we are not allowed to just shoot them.
With this logic....

...am I to assume that if you personally were imprisoned on faulty and/or trumped up charges that later proved false that you should therefore remain in prison?....simply because at one point the charges against you were believed to be true by the court? 


You are saying that our government can never admit to a mistake or to being misled and then CHANGE the course of action? 


As Ted Koppel said, our reason for Iraq went from being for our own national security and then as the facts were revealed about the reasoning for this, it changed to being for the good of the Iraqi people.  It has now proven to be neither for the good of the Iraqi people or for the lives of the Americans.


Logic
only a look (sans rose colored glasses) at the current state of affair and perfectly logical question of where the same trajectory might lead 4 years from now.
Ah, what logic
Just shows the overall mentality of the "pro-life" side. People like you and this murderer do great things for your cause everyday. Makes us all want to switch over to your side....
Seems no one wants a piece of Hillary :)

GOP Challenger to Sen. Clinton Quits Race




By Chris Cillizza
Special to The Washington Post
Thursday, December 22, 2005; Page A05



Westchester County District Attorney Jeanine Pirro (R) ended her campaign against New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton on Wednesday, bringing to a close a brief and decidedly rocky attempt to unseat perhaps the country's most famous Democratic officeholder.


Even as she announced she would shutter her campaign against Clinton, Pirro jumped into the state attorney general's contest. A recent independent poll showed her trailing the two Democrats seeking that office.









In a statement released by her campaign, Pirro said her law enforcement background better qualifies me for a race for New York State Attorney General than a race for the United States Senate.


Pirro's exit leaves the Republicans adrift for now, with only two obscure candidates vying for the nomination: former Yonkers mayor John Spencer and tax lawyer William Brenner.


From the start of Pirro's Senate campaign in mid-August, she was beset by questions about her fundraising ability and readiness for such a high-profile contest.


Pirro is the second Republican to drop a bid against Clinton, who is seeking a second Senate term next November. New York City lawyer Ed Cox, the son-in-law of President Richard M. Nixon, left the contest Oct. 16 when New York Gov. George E. Pataki (R) announced his support for Pirro.


We know at some point the Republicans will sort out this process and choose a nominee, Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said.


Cillizza is a washingtonpost.com staff writer.


Scary logic
So you would base qualification solely on his horrific experience in the POW camp? Seriously?

McCain is truly to be admired - no doubt - and ANYone who actually said "lying in a POW camp for 5 years does not make you qualified to run a counry" is despicable.

But enduring torture (at the hands of people whose country we invaded by the way, sound familiar?)
does not and SHOULD NOT automatically grant *any*one a pass to the most powerful position on the planet. If that's as far as your thinking goes, it's just scary...

PATRIOTISM, my friend, means standing up against your government on behalf of your COUNTRY! not JUST being willing to participate in any war, any where.

And being commander in chief means to ME that the person in that position would NEVER send men/women into another Vietnam OR IRAQ - and John McCain CLEARLY would like to continue the battle in many more places - but NOT in the one place where the attackers from 9/11 originated: Saudi Arabia. THAT my friend is shameful.


very lame logic; and she never said only.
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Lame logic??????
If it's lame logic that I have listened to ALL candidates and decided for myself based on what they have said without regard for the media take, the political party affiliation, gender or color, then so be it.  By whatever means you have made YOUR decision, I assume you don't consider your logic lame and I certainly will not put you down for coming to a conclusion that differs from mine.
...of twisted logic.

Again, it is a piece of jewelry
I just don't get it.
Strange logic!
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Where's the logic in this way of thinking?
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And C. Matthews is one sorry piece of
He is definitely being paid by the DNC and paid well. He is trash.
I could agree with your logic if

Obama would let it alone Unfortunately, he is not going to do that.  He has already said that his first order of business will be to sign into law the FOCA.  He will be allowing many ill-aborted babies to die without treatment after having been mutilated, burned, etc.  This isn't an issue of whether or not you are pro-life or pro-choice.  This is about whether or not a born child should be left to suffer and die.  The key word here is born.  That child was born. 


I work on a peds hospital account.  I type reports everyday about babies born at 25 weeks and everything being done to save them.  I don't see how someone can say "that baby gets to live today and I'm going to help it because the mother wants it to live, and that baby will die today because the mother does not want it." 


This FOCA directly undoes the Safe Haven act.  It makes no sense.  How is the FOCA any different than a mother leaving their unwanted infant to die in a trash can?


No need to freak out over BBC piece.
That is was an opinion piece? Also, check out the author. Peter Wehner, former deputy assistant to George Bush. The main trust of the article is Iraq and foreign policy. It comes as no suprise that BBC would publish BOTH sides to the election story and especially when it comes to posting opinions that would appeal to a certain segment of their own population. England. Part of the original coalition. They lost soldiers in Iraq just like we did. Also, they have a rather impressive history of imperialial colonialism and I have no doubt that conservative viewpoints such as this have appeal to some of the stodgier among them.
CNN hit piece on Tea Party sm
At nearly 2 minutes into this clip, listen to this woman let CNN toady Susan Roesgen have it. She is brilliant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd2tg8gxCDU&feature=player_embedded
Be careful where you go with that logic
Does that mean that we can safely assume that anyone who believed in Swaggart, Baker, Haggart, or any one of the legion of other evangelical ministers are guilty of not having a true Christian belief or guilty of the same 'crimes' that their ministry leaders were? Guilt by association, while easy, doesn't seem like a very Christian assumption.
the logic is in the legality, though
Killing the adult with cancer would be illegal. Abortion is legal. Does that spell it out for you?
Let's use logic for a change....(sm)

I would assume the only thing Obama might not have paid for would have been travel to NY.  So, you tell me, exactly how else was he supposed to get there when the Secret Service is in charge of how he gets from point A to point B. 


You need to pay attention to what has actually been going on in this country instead of getting wrapped up in the pettiness that is now the republican party.  Where was your outrage when Bush spent billions on a war over BS?  Amazingly, you guys have been on a spending spree for the last 8 years (most of which wasn't even on the books, BTW), and now all the sudden you want to worry about the cost of a date. 


Poor little you, you can't afford a date.  Well, next time think ahead and try not to vote in a president like Bush, and maybe, just maybe, the whole economy won't be in the shi++er and you can have your date, along with a job!


by your logic you think we can spend sm
our way out of debt???????

There is no logic at all to that line of thinking.
What do you know about me? What an arrogant piece of work you are.
Guess what, we went to school and work our butts off and pay for everything we have.  We're not rich either.  But I don't hold disdain for those who made it bigger than I.  It's a free country. 
There is no arguing with that kind of logic.

Alex Jones is not a physicist or a structuralist, I presume.  The people who built the WTC explained how the extreme heat from the jet fuel caused the buildings to topple.  There is no use arguing this with you. You have chosen to believe it and there you have it. 


I posted the Chickenhawk piece.
The author is in the very last line.  I got it from his website. 
Lovely piece of garbage.
Thanks for the confirmation. Here ladies and gentlemen is a classic example of bureaucratic professional. Where does it show that he has military experience, field experience? In essence by placing this post, you're saying that because he is highly educated (and that doesn't necessarily transpose to the highly intelligent), afforded certain posts in government, that is all that is required to take over and manage a country under insurgency? Hum....

So Armitage's principles weren't good enough for you?

Of course you take things at face value. I don't think you have asked a valid question yet. If you didn't take things at face value, I believe you would have more questions. But it seems that all you have are answers. Another hum....Perhaps, it is just a matter of who's face you're looking at isn't it?

Now, you go and have a nice day!
She's a real piece of work that one
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Read it again. It is an opinion piece...
written by a black minister. He is entitled to his opinion and I don't believe has been called a discredited liar. This has nothing to do with the McCain camp. You might want to actually read a post before the drive-by "They're all liars" campaign strategy.

And y'now, Obama is not in ANY position to call anyone else a liar. He lied about his vote on giving medical care to babies who survive abortion. He voted against it. He actually voted that the child should be left to die. He then said if a bill had come to the floor that was worded like the federal bill he would have voted for it. Such a bill DID go to the floor of the Illinois state senate and he voted against it. It is a matter of public record. He voted against the bill to save babies who survived abortion TWICE...basically said deny them care and let them die. He is so invested in abortion rights that he would not vote for common human decency in case it might affect abortion rights. That is sick, sick, SICK. Basically his campaign has owned up to the fact that he was untruthful. So I would not be posting calling the other side liars...
Do you have anything but an opinion piece to substantiate this?
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NYTimes = liberal hit piece...no thanks

"Twisted logic" is just another way of describing
Doesn't fool everybody, just the naiive, the narrow-minded, the SHEEP.

Baaaaa.
Haha... ain't she a piece of work?

Because the bailout is a corrupt piece of
Most people do not even realize that HALF that money they are stealing from us is going DIRECTLY to foreign investors, i.e., the China
2-step......read up on it. Better yet, I'll send a link... sickens me to no end!!!!!

http://www.carnegieendowment.org/publications/index.cfm?fa=view&id=234
Excellent piece and funny too. nm
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Your logic makes no sense at all
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By that same logic, Obama is also a puppet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like that logic thingy is way above your head.
That's a pretty hard thing for O to accomplish BEFORE he takes the oath, and his senatorial offices did not afford him to accomplish such feats single-handedly, so maybe you could try clarifying what you are babbling about now.
This is an opinion piece from a graduate of
Will not be accepting this as gospel without further resarch and investigation. My gut's telling me somebody somewhere is trying to serve a partisan agenda. Pardon me while I go check a few facts, read the bill for myself and get a few more viewpoints before buying into this hook, line and sinker.
Logic + Big Bad - Never the twain shall meet.
There you go trying to be all logical and realistic and everything.

Those who are in the 'ignorance is bliss' camp will never believe that radical Islam is anything to worry about. They will continue to blame 9/11 on America. They will continue to blame Bush for everything else. They will continue to praise their annoited one every time he jogs shirtless or plays with a puppy or eats a piece of pie.

They don't want to see his radical agenda, his blatant mistakes, or his real (and really dangerous) lack of leadership skills.

My folks used to raise hunting dogs. Once in awhile, you'd come up with a dog that simply couldn't learn. No matter how much time you put into training and coaching the poor little thing, its head could never seem to get in the game. They were lovable, attractive, but totally useless for the job they were meant to do.

I can't wait until we get another chance to find the pick of the litter, because when it comes to Obama, as my dad might say, "That dog can't hunt."
That piece didn't look like it was meant as comedy.

If it was, I apologize.  I guess I totally missed it.  Must be my weak mind. 


Try to follow this logic. I support Obama. Therefore,
his platform and every single speech he ever gave, was and never will be MY issue. It is yours. MY issue is with the hypocrisy of Joe the unlicensed, the way he misrepresented his intentions to buy the business (seems to have completely forgotten that by now), misrepresented his income, the income of the business in question and the innocent bystander routine that you so strongly defend. Contrary to popular belief, it seems, ignorance IS NOT BLISS here. His cover was blown and you can't stop crying foul because the underlying agenda is out in the open.

Beyond that, McCain has lifted up JTP and is using him to further misrepresent his alleged concern for the middle class (a phrase which he has yet to utter in any speech) which is clearly the case, given his 24-year record of voting and his 90% undying devotion to the "commonly shared philosophy" with the shrub.
gee -- that's the same kind of logic applied to pro-life

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a bold, fresh piece of opinion

Karl Rove - too smart by half.  He came up with the brillant idea to aid the corporate republicans by manipulating the low-information voters who live their lives by unexamined slogans, prejudices, and fear-based principles.  This worked for a while -- as shown by not only the election but the REelection of George W.  However, he did not anticipate that this large, unruly group would actually take over the republican party and elevate the unexceptional -- i.e, Sara Palin and Joe the Plumber, to hero status.  Their thinking being, "I are smart enough to run this here country, so why not Sara Palin - she are one like me!"  Just imagine -- I savor this image - the faces of the corporate repubs - Mitten Romney, Rudy-the-911, George HR, etc., when they realized that the group they wished to control to do their bidding against their very own self interests had coopted the party!!  I love it.


 


She's a real piece of work - see message
Being in the military, when we talked to subordinates we called them by their title (SGT Smith, Private Smith, etc). When we talked to our superiors we addressed them as sir or ma'am. Sir and ma'am are signs of respect.

So not only is she arrogant, but she is ignorant too.

The general I believe had several options (replies) here are some:

1. "Excuse me, I didn't really hear you say that, did I?"

2. "Sir and ma'am are titles we use as a sign of respect. If you don't want me to respect you fine, Ms. Boxer".

3. "I am a General in the United States military. You will not tell me what and what not to call you".

4. "This is not why I'm here. You really need to play your power-hungry games on others, but don't waste my time".

5. "Where is your boss. You evidently need to be removed if you believe your title is more important than the reason I am here answering these questions".

6. "Okay, Senator Twottyface".

Or better yet he should have stood up and said to the board members. I will be back to answer your questions when you have someone competent to ask them.

She is just rude and ignorant and her boss should have called her aside and reprimanded her for being so stoopid and making them look like a bunch of idiots. I too have no idea how she keeps getting voted. She needs to be at the top to get fired too.
Logic and common sense tell me the content of this message
Our government agencies tend to err on the side of caution in these circumstances. I do agree that votes will not and should not be swayed one way or the other. I just found this to be a fascinating piece of news.
Ah just that pesky little piece of paper called the Constitution. n/m

He has shown a short-form fraud piece of garbage. I
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last line of Matthews piece cut off in error. 1 line sm
complained in a letter to his boss that Matthews had shown a pattern of sexism.
liberal hit piece by a liberal deep thinker....
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