This article does not begin to address the problems.
Posted By: TechSupport on 2009-05-15
In Reply to: Medicare and social security - cj
Going forward not but a few years, Social Security is a grave problem, but Medicare is a true crisis, and we won't be able to tax our way out of either, although the idiots will try.
These things ARE coming:
1. Tax increases. These will be of many different varieties, and from all levels of government.
2. Reduced SS benefits. This might be disguised in the form of raising the eligibility age, etc., but it will still be a reduction in benefits.
3. Healthcare rationing. We simply will not be able to pay the bill to provide everyone with the level of care that medical science is technically capable of delivering. Rationing will be done in two ways - by restricting access on some sort of a cost-benefit basis (if you're 80, you won't get that triple bypass), and by increasing the waiting times while forcing people to go through a series of less-effective but cheaper forms of treatment.
I continue to be amazed at the number of people - in government and out - who continue to stick their heads in the sand over these realities while we pile up debts that even China can't bail us out of.
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This is where it will begin
Any remark not directly supporting Obama is immediately construed as hate speech. Neither McCain nor Palin ever accused Obama falsely of anything, but since they brought up something questionable about him, you consider that hate speech.
This is where it will begin. It won't be long (at this rate, probably within months) before there is no freedom of speech, no freedom of the press; anything negative said about Obama will be called hate speech and racist.
Where do I begin?? sm
No pork!
No lobbists in my White House!
I will bring the troops out of Iraq (maybe he will but he's just sending them to Afghanistan instead)!
I believe that if a person will lie about one thing, they will generally lie about anything.
You cannot begin to understand the
he saw it coming, gave the pubs just enough rope to hang themselves with, had a plan and launched it. This must may be the October surprise we have all been waiting for. I am thrilled beyond words.
When does life begin? sm
You state that you apparently have a different view of when life begins as opposed to others, Shelly and myself for example.
My stance is that life begins in full at the moment of conception. Why? Because cell division begins at that point and body organs and systems begin forming very shortly thereafter. It is quite an amazing process, really. At 5 weeks, the neural tube has formed. At 6 weeks, the heart bulge has begun to form as well as the jaws and the buds that will become arms and legs. At 7 weeks, we have eyelids and elbows and fingers. At 8 weeks, we have a brain and hands and knees. At 9 weeks, earlobes appear as well as shoulders. At 10 weeks, the fetus is fully recognizable as a baby and at 11 weeks bones have begun to form. At 16 weeks, your baby has started to grow toenails. And on and on it goes that this living viable BABY grows. Can an inanimate lifeless object do that? Can your computer monitor grow fingers? Do the cells of your car multiply? No. A baby is something that is living and growing from the moment of conception and to take its life is murder and robs it of its civil rights as a human being.
That is how wrong abortion is.
Do you think that people will begin to take any job?
I was just wondering if you feel like with the economy the way it is that American workers will begin to take any job that is offered to them and that will make it harder for illegals to find work and therefore they will go home?
I just thought about it. A lot of the jobs that the illegal people have now are jobs that Americans really do not want to do. Well, it is beginning to look like if people want to eat, they are going to have to do whatever they can and may decide that those jobs are not so bad after all.
What do you think?
And the excuses begin....
any republican would have been castigated. Your bias is showing. Mine, at least, is out in the open!
I never believed he was there to begin with - nm
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Maybe you could begin in another thread.
Day of Prayer and the absolute vicious lies about Obama's faith.
Just because you believe he lied about other things does not automatically make him a Muslim.
Excuse me, but for you to begin the *debate* by asking if we would rather
have our *backs patted* is, in and of itself, confrontational. Back-patting is what happens routinely on the conservative board, and they've even brought that to this board, as well, as any objective person can see below.
Obviously, you don't find your comments rude and confrontational. I respectfully disagree.
And I seriously wish you a wonderful day, as well. 
I mean, REALLY !?! Arrogance doesn't even begin
It borders on psychopathic.
Anything could happen - pigs may begin to fly too
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Where do I begin about Palin flaws?
Lately I really hate how she is inflaming the crowds and trying to paint Barack as a terrorist. That's just plain wrong. I hate that she lies. I hate that she abused power. I hate that she could put our country and security at risk by having a high power. I hate that she is against abortion. I hate that she is against educating kids on sex issues, I hate that she is so backwards, I hate her 1980s blush, I hate her voice, I hate that her husband belongs to a fringe group trying to get Alaska to secede from teh union. I hate that she went to teh fundraiser with her husband for getting alaska to secede from the union. I hate that we are supposed to think she is worthy of Hillary supporters when all they have in common is a vagina. I hate the way she won't be interviewed. I hate the way she lowers herself to only go on Fox or talk to Rush and I cannot believe that repubs don't see the blunders of these moves. I hate that people say "she is a woman" as if that alone makes it progress even though she basically is not helping women at all. I hate that she left Wasilla with a pile of taxes and debt when she had gone in to a debt free town. I hate all the meth labs in her tiny town that nobody talks about. I hate how she pretends that only she and mccain supporters are patriotic. I hate how ...oh gosh... i can't talk about it anymore. I hate how she says she has a gay friend when she is against gay unions. I hate the way she attacks Barack. She is really really dangerous and way too right wing.
I can't begin to imagine what the parents must feel.
I would be so enraged if I were in their position that I'm not sure what I'd do. I hope I would remember that keeping my family together and supporting my child (or children if there are siblings) has to be a priority, but on the other hand, to know that this monster is free to walk the streets and do this to other children... I'm not sure I wouldn't do whatever was necessary to put him either behind bars or underground. I certainly couldn't condemn a parent in that situation who made that choice.
I really hope there is enough uproar over this to change things. Otherwise, what choice do people have to protect their children but to take the law into their own hands? These judges (and legislators, for that matter) need to realize that, like guards in a prison, government rules by consent of the governed. Fail to protect the governed or to enforce reasonable laws in a just manner, and the governed will assume control one way or another. I am not an anarchist by any means, but law and order is one of the most basic governmental responsibilities. We can argue til the cows come home about everything else we would or wouldn't like the government involved in, but if they fail on too large a scale in this most basic duty, vigilantism and anarchy become inevitable.
Hopefully, moderates in both parties will begin to assert themselves.
We've swung far to the right and now far to the left. It will be a good thing if the true majority of Americans re-take control of their government, and I think you'll begin to see that happening in the 2010 Congressional election cycle. With any luck, Obama will be a one-term President unless he can manage to once again hoodwink the American voters into believing he's a moderate. Can we be fooled twice? I hope not. Let's get a true moderate into the White House in 2012 - of either party, I don't care which.
Life doesn't begin 'til the cord it cut and the
Until then, it's just a fetus/piece of tissue/etc., and has no rights.
Obama didn't wait for his term to legally begin, he started on Nov. 5th.
Each brown place in the link takes you to a different article that supports this article...nm
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So why are you here? Address the
their homes if they are so liberated?
Here's a web address regarding that.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642.html
So, does that mean no, you do not want to address it? NM
I will address it
Neither McCain nor Palin ever brought up assissination.
Hillary Clinton did! Fact - on tape - cannot deny it.
Obama suppporters loathed McCain/Palin. Many times I heard people saying they wished they would die. - Fact.
McCain supporters loathed Obama/Biden. I have heard people say some really bad things about him too. I have never once heard on tape anyone saying assassination except Hillary Clinton. - Fact.
net address, not link
I dont know why the link wont work, brings me to another MTstars page anyway, the site is www.capitolhillblue.com. Do a search for this net address and you will find the site. The article is on the first page. Enjoy.
why don't you address the issues here instead of
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Any of you Republicans want to address this? s/m
Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America........given to us by Bush, "the decider." And you find Obama "scary?"
Obama's 12/06 address......... sm
Hope everyone is crosstraining in some other career........
—ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS: “In addition to connecting our libraries and schools to the Internet, we must also ensure that our hospitals are connected to each other through the Internet. That is why the economic recovery plan I’m proposing will help modernize our health care system – and that won’t just save jobs, it will save lives. We will make sure that every doctor’s office and hospital in this country is using cutting edge technology and electronic medical records so that we can cut red tape, prevent medical mistakes, and help save billions of dollars each year.”
More in the link below.
I will address only one point s/m
As a long-time wife of union workers, I will tell you for fact that when union workers get raises and better benefits, non-union workers also get raises and better benefits. So just exactly who is it that doesn't benefit? Except, of course, big business....like Wal-Mart who will keep unionization out at any cost. Why? Because they would have to treat their employees fairly. The late great (NOT) Ronald Reagan, himself a card-carrying union member, vowed to break the unions and he did what he promised. Do you think workers are better off today?? Union members STILL have affordable health care AND pensions as do their retirees. I know..........thanks to my husband's long time union membership. His employer, Consolidated Freightways, established a non-union company (Con-Way Freight) and bankrupted the union arm of their business....with the exception of their Mexico and Canadian operations....so they could get out of their union contract and pay their workers less. The Teamsters back Obama and, yes, their fat cats want to further enrich themselve, but in so doing they have to drag the common workers along with them. POWER TO UNIONS!
I will address one thing. s/m
I did not intend to insult YOUR intelligence. I was speaking of American people in GENERAL. Obviously from your post you agree, whether you agreed in words or not, it's there between the lines i.e. your BIL's employees who complain. I was not speaking of people who bought off more debt than they could chew, I have NO sympathy for them. As far as I'm concerned these people who are living in 5000 sq. ft houses as you said and can't afford it, get what they deserve and I am certainly not in favor of bailing them out. I was speaking of people who are having trouble paying their heating/electric bills, buying groceries and gas to get to work on their $10 an hour jobs.
I say the outsourcing of American jobs is inexcusable. You proved my point regarding your BIL. If he, a small business, can give good jobs to his employees don't tell me the big businesses can't do likewise. You are correct, some people would complain if they were in God's pocket with their head sticking out! His employees who complain as far as I'm concerned, he ought to fire them and hire people who appreciate a good job in this day and age.
Please don't think anything I say personally. I do not mean it to be personal to anyone but if the shoe fits..........then I guess people can wear it.
OK, send me his address
He SHOULD have been told this before he was enlisted as cannon fodder for the war mongerers who were planning this fake war BEFORE the Supreme coup gave them the WhiteHouse.
No one doubts your nephew's good intentions for serving in the military. IN FACT, WE SUPPORT him so much, that we think he ought not be used as BAIT to secure more riches for the military industrial complex.
PLEASE do some research: This 'war' was manufactured and worse, 9/11 should have been and COULD have been prevented. IF THEY HAD DONE THAT, HOWEVER, they would not have been able to inflame a nation to war with a country that never attacked us.
SHAME on Americans who believe WITHOUT verifying or thinking for themselves!
We can't address the current....(sm)
economic nightmare without also addressing those who are already suffering from it. If that is not addressed while we are setting up new jobs, then we go straight into a depression. It's a whole lot harder and longer to get out of a full-blown depression that what we have now....and right now we're on the edge.
NASA = The 50 million Obama allotted for NASA is for them to repair facilities in Houston from hurricaine Ike (which should have already been done, btw) and non-space activities. Again, job creation. NASA wants more, but I doubt they'll get it.
Funny, but these don't seem to address
By which, of course, I mean the fact that socialism hasn't worked ANYWHERE, at ANY TIME.
Just a small omission, of course.
This is the last time I am going to address your posts. sm
The administrator and I have posted and reposted the rules. I don't care what publication approved what. The administrator will not allow extremely inflammatory posts regarding the President and these rules have been outlined to you repeatedly. As the administrator has said, this board is read worldwide. Have a care for what you post. No one has run to me asking to have posts removed. I remove the posts that do violate the rules. I suggest you post in another venue if you cannot manage to respect the rules of this board.
This really doesn't address my post
It appears to be another excuse to vent your dislike of all things liberal. It contains misguided and erroneous assumptions, as usual.
But I do appreciate the time you took to compose it. Just wish your time could be spent on something more constructive or insightful...something that could educate or enlighten the reader rather than leaving them scratching their heads thinking....what in the heck is she ranting about.....sure makes me think those neocons are bonkers..... I wish for once one of your posts would make me think golly, she might have a point there instead of feeling like someone had defecated on me. Understand?
Way too juvenile to address this flap.
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BTDT. Please address views of the
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I did address it directly. In the post above....
and you proved my point about the attacking. Typical dem.
So what's to address? I haven't liked the idea
I don't so much have a problem with Canada as I do Mexico. Of course, I've never cared for NAFTA. I do go for the Canada-US Smart Border Declaration but why don't we have one of those with Mexico? No, instead we have the US-Mexico Partnership. I partner enough with Mexico every time I support one more illegal in this country.
Now since they want to call it an ongoing dialogue, they can call it whatever they want, but wanting to preserve each country's sovereignty is a joke unless we close the US/Mexico border and if the border is crossed, shoot!
I do not want a major thoroughfare going from Mexico across this country and into Canada. Any idiot could see we are just asking for more trouble there. Encouraging drug smuggling and illegals and terrorists to boot. Anything and everything come right on into this country and they don't even have to brave those terrible old conditions on foot...they can just drive right in.
As much as this sounds great..
"Cooperation in intelligence, border management, law enforcement and transportation security is intended to reduce criminal activity and terrorist risks, thereby making our communities safer, facilitating legitimate trade and travel, and protecting our quality of life. Collaborative planning and prevention strategies will help ensure reduced impact, coordinated response and faster recovery from disaster situations, whether public health, cyber, natural, human error or terrorist in nature", it ain't happening. I do not care to do business with Mexico until they secure their own borders and stop letting their illegals in this country. They need to be coming up with their own plan to educate and employ their own population.
The list of things I don't care for go on and on. What else would you like to know?
Address the name but ignore the quote?
use the exact same terminology and the exact same ideology that you have been slamming and slurring Obama for now for weeks? Heard it with my own ears...hot off the trail.
You guys can't have it both ways. He is promising to redistribute offshore drilling revenues from oil companies to "Talahassee." He was directing his comment to a rally full of Floridians. He was not proposing to give the Tallahassee state govt, but rather was speaking of the citizens right in front of him.
If Obama's spread the wealth is socialism...which McC camp has been yamering and hammering into our skulls for days and days and days now, then it would make perfect sense to assume that Palin's (out of the moose's mouth) "share the wealth" and "collective ownership of resources" is every bit as socialist, wouldn't it? This question requires a direct answer.
You didn't address your post
to Christians exclusively. If that was what you wanted, maybe you should take it over to the faith board, will everyone will gush and agree with you.
opps, didn't get the whole address in there (sm)
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html
It would be a waste of time to try to address
Do you folks never tire of being scared and scaring each other? There is bigotry and there is racism, both of which pervaded during this election cycle in the media and at pub rallies. To deny this is so is truly beyond ridiculous. Yours is a very small, dark world view, unfounded in reality and not worthy of further comment.
It will if you copy it and paste it into the address bar
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The address you gave is not his residence.
Well, seems as though the rumor factor is alive and well. A little research is in order when passing along the latest gossip, so here you go.
Rahm Emmanuel lives at 4232 N. Hermitage. Here's a link to show you a copy of his paid-in-full property tax on his homestead exempted residence:
http://www.sangamonwatercolor.org/cap/rahmbillpaidfull.jpg
I found it here:
http://www.progressillinois.com/2008/11/07/rahm-emanuel-property-taxes
The address you gave is the office of the Rahm Emanuel and Amy Rule Charitable Foundation. They donate to the charities of their choice. Big whoop. You seem to have missed the point of the article, but let's say this loud and clear. Rahm Emmanuel is not evading property taxes on his home, as you can see from the link provided above that clearly shows how much me pays on his residence. There is no THERE there.
Here is the speaker's email address.
Maybe we should all send her an email. Let her know how we feel about her use of taxpayers' money for her own personal benefit.
sf.nancy@mail.house.gov
Just copy and paste into address bar...(sm)
I obviously have a deficiency today...LOl
Please point out the insults and I will address those posts. sm
In reading the board, I am not sure who the one poster you are referring to is. As far as Nina's post, I saw no insults. Please point them out. Until a poster identifies themselves as a certain political persuasian, how do you know who they are? I'd like a clue.
Please address the 4 key points raised in terms of
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The subject did not change. I will address you concerns
You remember the one about the fact that our tax system has always been progressive and the table posted above shows you just how moderate in comparison Obama's proposed tax rate is. What I want to know is were those 7 republican presidents between 1932 and 1981 all MORE socialist than Obama or what?
I will answer you just as soon as you address my orignal post
that question repeatedly and I think you and I both know why you have been running from it all day long.
You may notify admin of their email address,
and that can be blocked as well. Usually there is a link in the email that says report as spam, which will direct you to admin@mtstars.com
If the repugs would ever actually address an issue head on
there would be no need to pull the phrase out so often. It is a positively pathologic compulsion of theirs and has a whole lot to do with why they ended up on the short end of the stick in November.
Figures....if you can't address the problem...deflect.
What possible difference does what Bush did make? That was then, this is now. We are in a huge financial crisis (largely brought on by Democrats in congress blissfully ignoring the looming housing crisis and the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac debacle...yet you want to trust them now that we are up to our eyeballs drowning in debt with more on the way). Bush did not spend a much in 8 years as Obama has spent in...oh wait...how many WEEKS? Good grief!!!!! Don't you even WONDER how he possibly hopes to recoup all this?
Gracious enough to grant him more time? To do WHAT? Triple my taxes about the time the economy straightens out? If you think taxing the "rich" will fix this...get out your calculator and try again.
Look...I don't want to fight with anyone, but I do not understand the total blindless being exhibited here, when the microscope was used to examine Bush. Take that same microscope and start examining Obama...if you can.
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