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This is proving to be a very leaky

Posted By: A.Nonymous on 2009-04-26
In Reply to: Release of "Torture" Memos Very Suspicious - TechSupport

administration.  I predict that for the next 3-3/4 years, whenever a bit of misdirection is needed a memo or report will be leaked or given to the press.  Or some prior administration misdeed discovered and fresh outrage manufactured.


We had the DHS document casting suspision on 'radical conservatives.'   Now we have the torture memo going back to heap more blame on the Bush administration for policies which Pelosi apparently signed off on.  I doubt, though, that the rest of the congressional briefing minutes will ever be 'leaked' which show that she and other democrats were quite aware of the interrogation techniques being employed.


Meanwhile, activities we should legitimately be angry over are going on, which we are not supposed to notice.  Hey!  No!  Look over here!  Crazy conservatives!  Torture! 


Let me just go on the record as saying that no amount of money would induce me to volunteer to be tortured (you know, beaten cut, burned - severe pain or harm).  But cut me a check (certified only, please) with a number followed by a whole lot of zeros and I would be waterboarded (strictly in the interest of science).  Our special forces are trained to withstand this and other 'harsh' interrigation techniques.  I believe Demi Moore actually was waterboarded for the movie GI Jane. It's scary and unpleasant but way different from having your fingernails pulled out or a field generator and alligator clips used.  Or listening to an Obama lecture.  Now THAT's torture!




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Pat *Leaky* Leahy aided NSA Phone Taps

Looks like one of your own started the modern NSA wiretaps.  I think the Democrats fail to realize there's this thing out there called the Internet and not just the bullhorn of the leftist media to give the peasants amnesia to what they've done in the past.


From Newsmax.com


Friday, May 19, 2006 12:49 a.m. EDT


Pat Leaky Leahy Aided NSA Phone Taps


In 1994 Sen. Pat Leaky Leahy co-wrote a law that forced telecommunications carriers to build convenient wiretap features into their networks enabling the kind of telephone records collection now at the heart of the controversy over the National Security Agency's terrorist surveillance operation.

In recent days Leahy has called the NSA's actions troubling and potentially illegal - saying they show that the Bush administration is treating Americans like terrorists.

'The secret collection of phone call records of tens of millions of Americans? he exclaimed after USA Today blew the lid off the program last week. Are you telling me that tens of millions of Americans are involved with al-Qaeda?

But according to the Rutland Herald, Leahy was singing a different tune 12 years ago, when he was pushing the Senate to pass his bill, the Communication Assistance for Law Enforcement Act [CALEA].

I suggest to senators if anybody does want to hold [CALEA] up, I hope that at this time next year, neither they nor their constituents, nor anybody they know, is a kidnap victim or victim of a terrorist, and have somebody ask why nothing can be done, and be told because a law that had probably 99 percent support in the House and the Senate did not pass.

Contacted by the Herald earlier this week, Leahy said there was an important difference between what his law authorized and the actions taken by the Bush administration.

That law talks of the technology of the interception and what technology can be used to intercept and it assumes very clearly that it can only be done with a warrant, the Vermont Democrat insisted.

Some legal experts say, however, said that assumption is not as clear as Leahy claims. Analyzing CALEA in 2003, the Rutgers Computer & Technology Law Journal explained:

CALEA requires a telecommunications provider to make 'its equipment, facilities, or services ... capable of ... enabling the government ... [without a warrant] to intercept ... all wire and electronic communications carried by the carrier.'

Civil libertarians are also troubled by Leahy's law.

The secret search and wiretap provisions could lead to an age of Big Brother-like surveillance, the American Civil Liberties Union complained in the same Law Journal report. Americans who oppose U.S. policies and who are believed to have ties to foreign powers could find their homes broken into and their telephones tapped.


Thanks for proving me right. Again. nm

Thank you for proving my point.

I hold up THREE fingers.  The rest of the world sees THREE, but you?  You only see ONE, and you take the one YOU see, completely ignoring the other two that EVERYONE ELSE SEES, and twist it and manipulate it and turn it into something ugly that doesn't even come close to the TRUTH that EVERYONE ELSE CAN SEE.


Thank you for proving my point.
My grandma used to say, well you are mad, you are going to stay mad, you are enjoying being mad, have decided to be mad and there is no reason to talk you out of it.  But then, I already knew that, too.
Thank you for once again proving the truth of what I said about you.
Having said that, I didn't realize that you owned this board.  And having said THAT, I leave you with this thought.  A litany of complaints is not a solution.  Your remarks are divisive and wrong.  Your world view outlook is narrow and frighteningly sad and dark.  THOSE are observations, not accusations. 
You just keep proving my point.
I suppose I should thank you, but frankly I don't feel like it.  I have no plans to visit the conservative board.  I may go to the libertarian board though. I am anything but a sweetie.  And I would certainly never allow you to call me that face to face.  But then, that's how you operate, isn't it.  One of those people who gets on a chat board and vents their spleen, too cowardly in real life to say these things face to face to anyone. 
Thank you for once again proving my point.
You really just can't help it, can you?
Once again....and thanks for proving my point

You are an obvious BO supporter and you see the negative things you want to see out of McCain.  McCain supporters, however, don't see that.  We see negative things in Obama that his supporters refuse to see and believe.  The people who like Palin think she will do just fine during the VP debate.  It is all a matter of opinion.  We all have the same information and yet we have picked two very different people to vote for.   I think McCain will do fine in the next debates.  I personally think that this election will be a close one all the way to the end.  JMO though.


Have a good one! 


Thank you for proving the point

of how this country is pushing God away. I will pray for you!


Thanks for proving my point.
Wallowing in self pity is a real downer. However, if you keep it up long enough, you are bound to insure O's re-election in 2012, so keep up the good work. Trash talk is what lost this last election and history does have a way of repeating itself.
Thanks for proving my point.
These kinds of negative namecalling posts are exactly the point I was trying to make.  Give the man an opportunity to prove or disprove his competency, and then, and only then, you earn the right to question and criticize.
Thanks for proving my point . . .

First of all, I didn't call YOU un-American, unless the shoe fits, and certainly it had nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with me.  I could care less.  It had to do with those people that won't even consider hearing an intelligent explanation about the plan for this country, and those that openly voice their wish for failure of this adminstration.  Now, THAT is un-American.


Thanks for proving my point....(sm)

Tell me, I'm assuming that you also think that having sex out of wedlock is also a "bad behavior."  So, do you teach your kids to yell names at people like that?  How about people who smoke cigarettes?  What label to do you put on them?


Thank you for proving my point...
My work here is done.
Thank you all for so eloquently proving my point

in showing that you all have no idea what Christianity is all about.  In one breath you are praising Christ and all his attributes, but in the next breath you reject Him.  You embrace all the good, loving, warm fuzzy attributes of Christ, but you neglect to see what his sole purpose in coming to Earth was and that was die to atone for our sins and the evil wrought in this world.  Christ cannot look upon sin, and we are all sinners every one of us, and that's why he had to die.  He took the spiritual death we should have had to face ourselves.  That's not warm and fuzzy, but it's certainly love above all comprehension.   All He asks is that we accept His atonement and turn from our wicked ways.  It doesn't make us perfect sinless people, but it changes our heart and how we look at the world.


Personally, I don't agree with everything Pat Robertson says because Pat Robertson is not God.  He's a man,  but there is a certainly a judgemental side of God.  I hope many of you can see that before you face him as your judge once you leave this Earth.  Then it will be too late to change your mind.  I hope you won't let people like Pat Robertson or even someone like me keep you from truly knowing the love of Jesus Christ.


Now that I've totally violated board rules by evangelizing on the politics board I will leave.


Not nearly as *good* as you proving what a fool you are

by attributing something to me that I never said.


I made a mistake.  You thrive on attention.  I said I was going to ignore you.  From now on, I will give you the attention you truly deserve:  NONE.


Find someone else to judge, despise and attack and/or get some professional help.  I won't feed your anger and hatred any more.


You need a Happy Meal.


Have a lovely evening, dear.  Buh-bye.  


LOL, thanks for proving my point, as posted below. sm
You don't offend me.  You disturb me.  Two different entities.
Actually you are proving that YOU have the closed mind here - sm
You know absolutely nothing about me. I hate Survivor and so-called reality TV - nothing more than the dumbing down of America, as far as I'm concerned.

Actually I don't know much about Mr Icke; granted he may be a deep thinker, in some ways. However, I think he is slightly off-kilter for that single book / theory about the reptilians. Can we judge his credibility regarding other ideas because of that book? Yes? Unless he's just spouting theories to make some $$ off the gullible public?? Possible, no?

I'm actually quite a fan of conspiracy theorists and those who think outside the box (esp coverups, religion, war, etc, in these horrific days of Bush-Cheney domination).
You said you enjoyed proving people wrong...
then provide your source. And provide some more current statistics. That is all I asked for. A simple request. If you can't, you can't. No biggie.
See? You're proving the very point made about
right wing rage. Sure hope you and your fanatic friends don't all own guns......
And the word is hypocrisy, thanks for proving my point!
Making a generalized statement about the tremendous crowds that Obama draws being moochers is really about the most pathetic, ridiculous thing I have ever heard.  You make me laugh!!
Obama is already proving to be a liar and stealer
nm
Thanks so much for proving my point about the angry, hate-filled left. sm
You did a perfect job of it.  You are incapable of thought other than that driven by hate. Your debates are screeds and your voice is strident and laced with the same adjectives...the word liar comes to mind. Which, of course, you are.