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This is what I wrote in my message below called outrageous

Posted By: New Englander on 2008-12-19
In Reply to: Congress gets a raise - must be nice! - Zville MT

Their blatant glutton is so sickening I could just puke! Families losing their jobs, homes, 401K's, retirements. People are in such hard times right now, bailouts after bailouts after bailouts and congress (all pretty close to millionaires if not more) goes and just gives themselves a pay raise. I'm am so sick to death of the whole political scene.


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and being called straight is an insult since - see message
The straight people are the ones who do incest, S&M, bondage, domestic violence, wife swapping, pastors/ministers molesting children, parents selling their kids for drugs, parents killing their own kids for who knows what reason, weird fetishes, and the list goes on and on and on. Gay people ARE being accepted in mainstream society. Just because you don't want to believe they aren't doesn't make it so, because they are and they are doing just fine. All they want is the right to marry whom they want to share their lives with (sound familiar?). Same rights for all human beings, and no more discrimination all because of a bunch of child molesting religious freaks with their backwoods mentality who don't want it. Gay people are not the ones with the deviant behavior. Gay people work, pay bills, watch movies, go to bed, eat the same kind of meals you do. Gay people do the same exact things "straight" people do, except they are not the wolves hiding in sheeps clothing (i.e. all the reasons listed above). At least now adays its nice to go out in public and see the same sex people showing their love for each other the same way "straight" people do. It's nice to see acceptance and tolerance for all human kind (except there are still the ignorant few). So, now with the states coming around i hope to see more gay marriage coming up. For those who don't like it, too bad. It's not your choice anymore. Gays ARE being accepted whether you like it or not.
Not false, you called me Newton, Darwin, and a nasty little wretch - see message
When I never called you anything. After you called me Newton I called you Einstein. And you even made reference in one of your posts that I was an a@@ without coming out and writing the "a" word.

This IS getting childish, but after reading your posts attacking me I said enough, keep your name calling to yourself.

One poster said it's childish and I do feel it is childish. If you hadn't called me those names when I clearly didn't call you anything then I would not have posted. But it was getting to the point that everything I was posting about you were replying calling me things. While I am all for a discussion with people who have a different opinion than mine I should not have to keep reading the negative remarks about me personally.

Someone else said I have the nasty attitude. I believe she probably agrees with a lot of your posts and is defending you. So I took her challenge and read through the last 3 pages to when I first began posting.

I've even copy and pasted all messages in a word document if your interested. But never once in any of my posts did I call you or any other person names. I only called you Einstein after you called me Newton.

Having a difference of opinions is one thing, and explaining why but there is never any need to result to name calling. The moderator has expressed that many times.

But at least I don't feel alone because I read some other posts where you called someone a prophet and a snake when they hadn't said anything bad to you.

So please, be my guest, you show me one post that I started off calling you names. I don't take this personal, this board is to discuss issues. I'm always welcome for quality discussion of issues. I know a lot of people don't like their posts challenged but when I feel something is wrong I will write a post. I don't post to every post on this board like Nasty Attitude said I did. I went back through the pages to when I first started posting and there are only a few posts I replied to.

And when I'm wrong I'll say I'm wrong. This time I am not wrong. And I'm respectful to other people. Everyone is entitled to their viewpoint. But we should not be badgered and called names because of our differences in opinions.
Not false, you called me Newton, Darwin, and a nasty little wretch - see message
When I never called you anything. After you called me Newton I called you Einstein. And you even made reference in one of your posts that I was an a@@ without coming out and writing the "a" word.

This IS getting childish, but after reading your posts attacking me I said enough, keep your name calling to yourself.

One poster said it's childish and I do feel it is childish. If you hadn't called me those names when I clearly didn't call you anything then I would not have posted. Telling me you don't agree with what I say and writing why is one thing but calling me a wretch or Newton or anything else is just childish and I'm tired of it. And it was getting to the point that everything I was posting about you were replying calling me things. While I am all for a discussion with people who have a different opinion than mine I should not have to keep reading the negative remarks about me personally.

Someone else said I have the nasty attitude. I believe she probably agrees with a lot of your posts and is defending you. So I took her challenge and read through the last 3 pages to when I first began posting.

I've even copied and pasted all messages in a word document if your interested. But never once in any of my posts did I call you or any other poster names. I only called you Einstein after you called me Newton.

Having a difference of opinions is one thing, and explaining why but there is never any need to result to insults. Stick to the issues. The moderator has expressed that many times.

But at least I don't feel alone because I read some other posts where you called someone a prophet and a snake when they hadn't said anything bad to you.

So please, be my guest, you show me one post that I started off calling you or any other poster names. I don't take this personal, this board is to discuss issues. I'm always welcome for quality discussion of difference of issues. I know a lot of people don't like their posts challenged but when I feel something is wrong I will write a post. I don't post to every post on this board like "Nasty Attitude" said I did. I went back through the pages to when I first started posting and there are only a few posts I replied to.

And when I'm wrong I'll say I'm wrong. This time I am not wrong. And I'm respectful to other people. Everyone is entitled to their viewpoint. But we should not be badgered and called names because of our differences in opinions.
Outrageous!!!!

This is the most blatant disrespect towards the citizens of this country.  Our economy is falling apart.  People losing homes, 401K plans being wiped out, job loss, etc, etc, etc and they go and do this?????????????????????????????


http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/with-economy-in-shambles-congress-gets-a-raise-2008-12-17.html


I am so friggin sick of them all.  Oh yeah, guess we should feel sorry for them.  They have hundreds of thousands to millions and it isn't enough for them.


Talk about really getting the blood boiling.  They care nothing about the people of the country and what we are going through and this shows it!  They'll sit and spit in our faces and say, so what, what are you going to do about it.  They really need to take the power away from them to vote themselves in their own pay raises.   


One word: OUTRAGEOUS!!

xx


Im thinking those outrageous remarks
of pat Robertson about Sharon's stroke might just put a kink in this deal..
I agree it's outrageous that guy is still drawing breath
He should've been tried years ago, and if found guilty should have assumed ground temperature many years ago. However, it looks like four subsequent administrations share the blame for this not just the Bush administration, but yes, more should've been done especially by the Bush administration to be sure justice was served in this case..
Outrageous remarks made by Clinton

The DNC should dismiss H Clinton IMMEDIATELY due to her offensive and despicable comments about why she is staying in the race (the assasination of Bobby Kennedy - in other words the same could happen to Barack and so she should stay in in case that happens).  I think it is a disgrace for her to continue in the race at this point.  There is no doubt in my mind (and others I have talked with) that she wants something dreadful to happen to Barack, but to blatently come out and mention the assination of Bobby Kennedy when referring to Barack Obama is the lowest of all time lows.  Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE should call for her removal from the race.  This is why we CANNOT have her as VP.  If so Barack would have to constantly be looking over her shoulder.  If nobody believes that they need to read the history of the Clintons and what they have done to people in the past.  It's fact and people need to wake up!  This is not some "right-winged" thing against her - it happened and you can read about it.


Then she tries to cover up her shameful statements with lies.  The media is treating her too kindly by saying they are sure she didn't mean that she believes something would happen to him.  I just want to scream - Don't you believe it.  Look at the past!  Yet once again another reason I'm not voting for her. 


And what part of NO doesn't the Hillary supporters understand that she is NOT going to be VP on his ticket.  NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!  If, and I doubt that would happen, but if she was to be on the ticket I would not vote for him.  I will write in Ron Paul. 


She goes on and on about all the people she has that will vote for McCain and not Obama if she doesn't get on the ticket - yeah, well there are an equal number that if she is on the ticket will absolutely not vote for her and will either go for McCain or just not vote.  I was watching the exit polls after the election on Tuesday and they said that its about a 50/50 split with Hillary supporters and Barack supporters saying they will not vote for the other.  


There's no way in the world I want that XXXXX anywhere near the white house.  I am just outraged that she made such a dispicable, appalling, shameful and vile statement.  And I don't even want to hear any Hillary lovers try and defend this.  If there is a meaning of evil she fits the description to a T.  This just confirms she is XXXXX in my books.


Those prices are OUTRAGEOUS! Bad plan, Obama!
According to the table on the website you linked, in my state their insurance would cost nearly $800 a month! Holy KRAP, Batman! I pay a little over a quarter of that.

So Obama thinks some welfare family should get an $800/mo policy for free and I, because I can afford my own inrance, have to pay for lesser coverage.

This is a joke, right? He can't be serious.

And those rate tables were from 2004/5. Lord only knows what they are today.
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Then what did you mean when you wrote

You accuse me of drinking and then cry when it happens to you. SM




WHAT happened to ME, Brunson Burnout?


Who wrote this??????

I just wrote him
do you think he will ever actually read it?
I am not the one who wrote it, but
probably meant PROMOTE, not promite.
I still say they should have just wrote a
check to every TAXPAYER for around $50,000. That would have saved a heck of a lot of money being spent on this stimulus package. We would definitely buy a car. Then we could concentrate on paying our bills off, which would have stimuluated the economy even more...LOL
I think he's the guy who wrote
The Purpose Driven (fill in the blank - there have been several.)
Yes, agree with all you wrote.
Yes, King George seems to be pretty angry lately, looking like a cornered animal. It did look like he was going to hit Matt Lauer or something; he was soooo defensive and agressive. At this point I am afraid of what he might do next, as it seems he's running out of options. Pretty scary. :-(

I agree with everything else you said.


My thoughts on what you wrote about
I have heard same thing about his life might be in danger, and think it is so horrible that this country still could be remotely about that. But, as you have experienced and witnessed, it is still there. And some rural and other places are saturated with it. I don't live in an area where it is obvious. I haven't heard that word that you mentioned in forever, and I am thankful for that.

Here's the thing. Though many and even me have said/thought that this country is not ready for a black president - he is getting overwhelming support from Democrats and Independents. This makes me think or wonder that either people who are afraid of him or are indeed some form of racists are 1) not voting (in the Democratic primaries), 2) they are more afraid of Hillary (which doesn't make sense if they are truly racist), or, 3) they are mostly Republicans (I know that sounds like a slam on Rep, but I don't mean it to be) and they will vote for McCain anyway... ? Maybe I am naive here.

So even though we may not be ready, it seems that we better hurry up and get ready? ;-)


Yup another no brainer wrote this one too.
I listened to his speech and found it very good. In all fairness I will be listening to McCain's speech with an open mind. I want to hear what he has to say. I'm listening to both sides and taking it all in and then will base my decision.

I get pretty sick of one side making it look like their candidate is the second coming while the other side is whatever. It's all very childish.
All you did was cut & paste. Whoever actually wrote
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an individual wrote this and -
every individual has a right to his/her own opinion, but that does not mean that the countries are saying we were duped. The people in other countries are just like the people in America - you either love him or you hate him - there is no in between for Obama.

I personally think that we have him now as POTUS and we should stand behind the man and show respect for the office he is holding and give him a chance to do something before we continue to tear him down.

I hear people say Obama has already broken this promise or that promise, but how can he break promises he made when he is not even the president yet? Give him a chance - if he messes up, then talk about it and be upset -- and even though I voted for him, I will be upset right along with you.
You don't know the guy who wrote the article so

how do you know he's a pub?  There are dems criticizing the stimulus. This man been in the road construction business for years. He knows what's needed and what has to be done. What he's saying is there was not enough money given for the road and bridge infrastructure.


IMHO, I don't think money for teachers should be part of this. Teachers in my area make around $50K a year and the administrators make over $100K. We are definitely not city and the average taxpayer here only earns $24K if they go out of the county for work.  Otherwise, the average salary around here is $14K a year...yet our schools do not prepare the kids for college like they should. Too much emphasis  is placed on sports and not on education. The teachers do not teach the important things. Most of them don't know how to count money without a calculator or cash register to tell them how much change they should give back. They don't know how to read or write (spell). I see it all the time.


I know teachers are the backbone of our society and future for our kids, but some don't belong in the world of teaching. They're in it for the money and benefits only.


I coudl go on and on with what is wrong with this package, and what they should do, but now I have to go and work for my slave wages.


 


Yeah. Let's count them: First, we have the one who wrote for everyone to see

"I spent 19 years in the military."


It's not until someone thanked her for her service and asked what branch she was in that we found out that she was in a military FAMILY.  Was that a lie?  OF COURSE NOT AND DON'T ANYONE DARE SAY SHE LIED.


Another poster (maybe the same as the above) really displayed the extent of her intelligence when she responded to a poster by referring to their "vaucity." When asked what that meant, she responded by saying look it up.  When a poster responded that she tried BUT IT ISN'T IN THE DICTIONARY, she replied that it's a "combination of 2 words" that can be found on blogs all over the net.  (When asked WHICH 2 words, she couldn/didn't respond.)


Turns out, it was a typo and was supposed to read "vacuity."  The irony was that she was trying to tell the original poster that they were stupid, but who REALLY looked stupid during all this????  Can she say it's a typo?  NO.  And as far as a "blog" term that doesn't exist, SHE DID NOT LIE, SO DON'T CALL HER A LIAR.


Best part is if a little HONESTY could be employed by these people, there wouldn't be an argument.  It's absolutely honorable to be a member of a military family, and they, too make sacrifices and should be thanked for that.  But it is NOT the same as saying "I spent 19 years in the military."  I know people who actually DID spend 20 years in the military and retired at a very young age. Still, it is very honorable to be a member of a military family.  At least in my eyes it is.  Guess it wasn't in hers or she would have been honest about her role.


Also, instead of saying "I made a typo, and I meant to write vaucity," again, the invention of "facts" about a combination of two nonexitent words.


Another member of their gang... well, just go visit the Conservative board for yourself and read the entire thread about the activist judges/groups who are responsible for not letting the poster place a nativity scene in her own yard.  She was questioned by someone, and it's not until the fourth post that she begins by saying, "I'll be up front with you."  HOW NICE.  It's quite comical.  If you haven't read it, you should.  Turns out it had nothing to do with "activist judges/groups" at all.  BUT SHE DID NOT LIE!!!!!


When I come to these boards, I start out with the belief that everyone has credibility.  It's only after they prove to me THEMSELVES that they don't, by their very OWN ACTIONS AND WORDS that they can't be believed, that I begin to form negative opinions.


What you wrote is a perfect example of someone whose credibility is definitely ... uh.... challenged. (trying to be kind)


And yes, LOL, I'd bet a psychiatrist could make a mint from some of these people.


And riled?  Yeah, used to a little bit, but now I just find them more comical than anything.  But I'll grow out of it like I did with the OTHER Curly, Larry and Moe.


He wrote about Jews and communism. sm
He read many of Henry Ford's writings when he (Hitler) was in prison.  He included these thoughts/tenents in Mein Kampf. 
That sounds like a kindergartner wrote that. Seriously. nm
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Not directed at you, Kiki, just the guy who wrote....
this article...verrryyy slanted.

But all it says to me is that she is doing the job as governor of her state to take care of her people and it looks like she was doing a mighty fine job. Hence the 83% approval rating.

What I would be interested in is the same author looking at the lower 48, and seeing how much of their profits are off the top before a product leaves their state? I would imagine it is very close to that. It is a governor's job to look out for the people of the state, and she obviously put her people first. More power to her! If she pushes for the same principle on a federal level, we will do nothing but benefit.

Good grief, this person castigates the woman for doing her job and doing it well. At least she didn't siphon off a chunk for herself like many other corrupt politicians..it went right back to the people of her state.

And the interviewer could not resist the class warfare jibe: "Well I guess that means the Alaskan people are more important than we are..blah, blah, blah."

If this guy lived in Alaska he would be singing a different tune...sour grapes, class warfare. Typical.

Yep, I would be interested to know how much revenue from oil from Texas, oil from Oklahoma, coal from West Virginia...how much of that revenue is kept at the state level? My guess is as much as Palin kept in Alaska from Alaska's oil.

This article just reinforced for me why her influence is needed in Washington. She looks after the people who put her in office. Exactly what she SHOULD be doing IMHO.


What if McCain wrote a book
And in his biography, he made statements like not ingratiating myself to blacks.

Showing loyalty to the white masses

Or made a statement saying I never emulate black or brown men.....

Do you think there would be any chance he'd be a presidential candidate right now?

If McCain wrote a book, this is what it would say sm
McCain's book would say this:
Chapter One:
I am an admiral's son. I was a POW for 5 years. My wife waited for me and I ditched her when I got home for Cindy. A month after my divorce, I married Cindy the botox queen who bobs her head and makes $100 million a year. I don't want to be her little houseboy so I'm trying to be president so she can be proud and I can help all her corporate friends.

I'm skanky and old and I follow what GW Bush says and does, although now that he tanked our country, I'm trying to backpedal on that until after the election. Right now we are trying to figure out how to steal votes in a less sleazy fashion than the past 2 elections. We have the power and we aren't giving it up easily.

My worst idea ever was getting Sarah Palin but I cannot admit mistakes so now I just go and defend her before anyone even opens their mouths. I say ISN'T SHE GREAT, while inside I'm kicking myself. She made me lose long time republicans. I know if I die after hopefully being elected the big bad repubs will impeach her butt in a heartbeat. Speaking of heartbeat, I'm sorry I slobbered and gasped so much during the debate last night. I don't want my supporters to think I'm sick...I was just trying to distract people who were listening to Obie. He is really stealing the show.

I don't know why the Hillary supporters don't like Palin. Do you suppose they aren't as dumb as I'd hoped? I was hoping they would be satisfied with those 2 having as little in common as labia majora and a a vijayjay. Oh well. Can't please everyone.

By the way, did you know Palin's husband belonged to a fringe group that tried to get Alaska to secede from the Union? That will be the grounds to impeach her if I kick the bucket. Oh heck yeah, we good ole boys have it all figured out.

Anyone have a clue why Jackson Brown, Survivor, Heart and all those other bands won't let me use their music? I sure can't ask the Dixie Chicks now can I?

Ain't it a shame how everyone came down on them girls for speaking against Bush when they were 100 percent right? Whoops, well I can say that now that I'm trying to distance myself from the C student whose daddy got him into Yale. But he is a rich boy and I only hang with rich boys.

Let's see now. One more thing. I was brilliant last night with my Joe the Plumber. Good thing nobody found out until after the debate that he was a republican plant. He was on talk radio, the right wing hater shows, even before the debate. Yeah, he was a plant, not just some random thing but haha fooled everyone for a night. Now if I can just fool them until the election.

Peace! I mean WAR. More war more war more war!

FactCheck.org wrote about this in August
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Teddy wrote books about something other than himself!
You can hardly compare Obama's narcissistic biographies with Teddy's books where he researched and wrote about something other than himself!

Who wrote the stimulus bill, do you know?...
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Someone wrote a letter to the editor
in our local paper and asked why are they giving them bonuses when they should be firing them for making such a mess in the first place.
She probably thinks she WROTE the Bible.
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Also I was responding to the person who wrote that

say the opposite. BT stated it correctly.


Now nuff said.


As I wrote to him, Tom Tancreda or Duncan Hunter.
I suggested a REAL Republican like one of those fine men for his running mate.


do u mean the founding fathers that actually wrote our constition?
The ones that didn't wipe their a$$e$ on it? The ones that wanted to separate church from state? The ones that wanted liberty from tyranny?
JTBB wrote 7 lines, you say she conflated them into
16 issues and can't answer.  Did I read you correctly, you're going to be an intelligence analyst?  OMG!! 
I made a mistake and was trying to respond to the post below by *LOL* when I wrote that.

in the article you posted, nor did I see the word *impeach* anywhere in the article.


I agree with your comments and with the article you referred to, and I understood the comments of LOL to mean that the article was responding to some sort of "talking points" and using the word impeach often, when in fact, it can't be found once in that article.


As far as impeaching Bush, I believe time will tell.   I personally believe he's guilty of war crimes, and that his war will be judged to be illegal before the end of his "reign as King of the USA." (if we all manage to survive that long).


The mere fact that he led us into this war based on lies should be enough to impeach him.


If I offended you, then I truly apologize.  I agree with you and I'm glad you posted this article.  I surely wouldn't have referred you back to the very article you obviously read and posted and tell you to educate yourself, and in no way, shape or form do I believe you are ignorant; far from it.


If you posted the LOL statement below, then I apologize for misunderstanding what you meant by it.


I made a mistake when posting my post, and instead of winding up under the intended post, it wound up under yours instead.  Again, I'm sorry if I offended you.


Didn't read your response before I wrote mine....
lol. Good post :)
Pubs wrote the book on voter fraud.
nm
Thomas Sowell wrote the article, maybe you should read it...

not my facts, chicky.


I'm glad you wrote bible with a lower case
Because there are a million bibles out there...bible simply means book. But the Holy Bible there is only one of, of which there are thousands of manuscripts, and of which authenticity was proved (again) by the manuscripts found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

I've told you a million times that I do not make that call, Jesus Christ does. All authority has been given to Him. I'm just one of many messengers.

And since you have no idea who I am, don't confuse yourself with thinking I am in a little locked-in box. You have no idea the kind of life I have led, the things I have seen, and the things I have done. I spent six years trying as hard as I could to disprove Jesus and Christianity. To this day I still doubt many things, but doubting is good, it makes you search for the truth that much harder. I question points all the time, but i do so in sincerity, not facetiousness. Therefore God reveals the answers to me. However, He didn't do so until I honestly asked Him.




McCain's speech was well written (for him, I doubt he wrote it himself), but he is not a great s
He does not have 'it'.
Obama has 'it'.
Well done, Obama.
Arrgh..I wrote you a long answer, and had a bad word in it, and when I went back (sm)
my message disappeared! I am trying to finish some work so will have to rewrite it later.
I think you wrote a wonderful post; but the "giving money to the rich,"....sm
historically has been the rule of the day while the Republicans were in power, I think Mr. Cheney prospered the most during the Bush administration and his cronies. And I agree it is NOT a partisan thing, right is right, wrong is wrong, but at this point in time we have a new president who has only been in office a month; he is ambitious, forward-thinking, altruistic, decisive, and strong. I agree some of those programs SHOULD have been left out, but perhaps he had to make those concessions in order to get the more important social programs and reforms this country needs. He is tring to perform a MAMMOTH, HERCULEAN task, I respect him for it, and he deserves more of a chance than he is getting. I he has made many speeches saying that he proposes to hold more and more corporations and institutions ACCOUNTABLE for their actions and suffer consequences. Can we give him the time to do so? JMHO
I wrote: I second JTBB's post, 'watcher's post is misinformed crap...sm
pYou have also to read what's posted 'inside' the message.
What's it called?
It's called LYING.
Uh, maybe that's why it's called
What's more he/she/it started out with a sarcastic remark of *aren't we worthy*? You sound like crybabies. Liberal board is for liberal people. Now is that so hard?
Nobody was called (nm)

x


He should be called on this and often...nm
While he stands up there being the hypocrite he is.
I am the one who called him that. sm
I stand by what I said.  He may not have raped Kathleen Willey or Paula Jones, but he may as well have. I totally believe he did rape Juanita Broaddick.