My thoughts on what you wrote about
Posted By: Obama Fan on 2008-02-21
In Reply to: Can I be honest here? sm - Not a racist
I have heard same thing about his life might be in danger, and think it is so horrible that this country still could be remotely about that. But, as you have experienced and witnessed, it is still there. And some rural and other places are saturated with it. I don't live in an area where it is obvious. I haven't heard that word that you mentioned in forever, and I am thankful for that.
Here's the thing. Though many and even me have said/thought that this country is not ready for a black president - he is getting overwhelming support from Democrats and Independents. This makes me think or wonder that either people who are afraid of him or are indeed some form of racists are 1) not voting (in the Democratic primaries), 2) they are more afraid of Hillary (which doesn't make sense if they are truly racist), or, 3) they are mostly Republicans (I know that sounds like a slam on Rep, but I don't mean it to be) and they will vote for McCain anyway... ? Maybe I am naive here.
So even though we may not be ready, it seems that we better hurry up and get ready? ;-)
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Then what did you mean when you wrote
You accuse me of drinking and then cry when it happens to you. SM
WHAT happened to ME, Brunson Burnout?
Who wrote this??????
I just wrote him
do you think he will ever actually read it?
I am not the one who wrote it, but
probably meant PROMOTE, not promite.
I still say they should have just wrote a
check to every TAXPAYER for around $50,000. That would have saved a heck of a lot of money being spent on this stimulus package. We would definitely buy a car. Then we could concentrate on paying our bills off, which would have stimuluated the economy even more...LOL
I think he's the guy who wrote
The Purpose Driven (fill in the blank - there have been several.)
Yes, agree with all you wrote.
Yes, King George seems to be pretty angry lately, looking like a cornered animal. It did look like he was going to hit Matt Lauer or something; he was soooo defensive and agressive. At this point I am afraid of what he might do next, as it seems he's running out of options. Pretty scary. :-(
I agree with everything else you said.
Yup another no brainer wrote this one too.
I listened to his speech and found it very good. In all fairness I will be listening to McCain's speech with an open mind. I want to hear what he has to say. I'm listening to both sides and taking it all in and then will base my decision.
I get pretty sick of one side making it look like their candidate is the second coming while the other side is whatever. It's all very childish.
All you did was cut & paste. Whoever actually wrote
.
an individual wrote this and -
every individual has a right to his/her own opinion, but that does not mean that the countries are saying we were duped. The people in other countries are just like the people in America - you either love him or you hate him - there is no in between for Obama.
I personally think that we have him now as POTUS and we should stand behind the man and show respect for the office he is holding and give him a chance to do something before we continue to tear him down.
I hear people say Obama has already broken this promise or that promise, but how can he break promises he made when he is not even the president yet? Give him a chance - if he messes up, then talk about it and be upset -- and even though I voted for him, I will be upset right along with you.
You don't know the guy who wrote the article so
how do you know he's a pub? There are dems criticizing the stimulus. This man been in the road construction business for years. He knows what's needed and what has to be done. What he's saying is there was not enough money given for the road and bridge infrastructure.
IMHO, I don't think money for teachers should be part of this. Teachers in my area make around $50K a year and the administrators make over $100K. We are definitely not city and the average taxpayer here only earns $24K if they go out of the county for work. Otherwise, the average salary around here is $14K a year...yet our schools do not prepare the kids for college like they should. Too much emphasis is placed on sports and not on education. The teachers do not teach the important things. Most of them don't know how to count money without a calculator or cash register to tell them how much change they should give back. They don't know how to read or write (spell). I see it all the time.
I know teachers are the backbone of our society and future for our kids, but some don't belong in the world of teaching. They're in it for the money and benefits only.
I coudl go on and on with what is wrong with this package, and what they should do, but now I have to go and work for my slave wages. 
Yeah. Let's count them: First, we have the one who wrote for everyone to see
"I spent 19 years in the military."
It's not until someone thanked her for her service and asked what branch she was in that we found out that she was in a military FAMILY. Was that a lie? OF COURSE NOT AND DON'T ANYONE DARE SAY SHE LIED.
Another poster (maybe the same as the above) really displayed the extent of her intelligence when she responded to a poster by referring to their "vaucity." When asked what that meant, she responded by saying look it up. When a poster responded that she tried BUT IT ISN'T IN THE DICTIONARY, she replied that it's a "combination of 2 words" that can be found on blogs all over the net. (When asked WHICH 2 words, she couldn/didn't respond.)
Turns out, it was a typo and was supposed to read "vacuity." The irony was that she was trying to tell the original poster that they were stupid, but who REALLY looked stupid during all this???? Can she say it's a typo? NO. And as far as a "blog" term that doesn't exist, SHE DID NOT LIE, SO DON'T CALL HER A LIAR.
Best part is if a little HONESTY could be employed by these people, there wouldn't be an argument. It's absolutely honorable to be a member of a military family, and they, too make sacrifices and should be thanked for that. But it is NOT the same as saying "I spent 19 years in the military." I know people who actually DID spend 20 years in the military and retired at a very young age. Still, it is very honorable to be a member of a military family. At least in my eyes it is. Guess it wasn't in hers or she would have been honest about her role.
Also, instead of saying "I made a typo, and I meant to write vaucity," again, the invention of "facts" about a combination of two nonexitent words.
Another member of their gang... well, just go visit the Conservative board for yourself and read the entire thread about the activist judges/groups who are responsible for not letting the poster place a nativity scene in her own yard. She was questioned by someone, and it's not until the fourth post that she begins by saying, "I'll be up front with you." HOW NICE. It's quite comical. If you haven't read it, you should. Turns out it had nothing to do with "activist judges/groups" at all. BUT SHE DID NOT LIE!!!!!
When I come to these boards, I start out with the belief that everyone has credibility. It's only after they prove to me THEMSELVES that they don't, by their very OWN ACTIONS AND WORDS that they can't be believed, that I begin to form negative opinions.
What you wrote is a perfect example of someone whose credibility is definitely ... uh.... challenged. (trying to be kind)
And yes, LOL, I'd bet a psychiatrist could make a mint from some of these people.
And riled? Yeah, used to a little bit, but now I just find them more comical than anything. But I'll grow out of it like I did with the OTHER Curly, Larry and Moe.
He wrote about Jews and communism. sm
He read many of Henry Ford's writings when he (Hitler) was in prison. He included these thoughts/tenents in Mein Kampf.
That sounds like a kindergartner wrote that. Seriously. nm
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Not directed at you, Kiki, just the guy who wrote....
this article...verrryyy slanted.
But all it says to me is that she is doing the job as governor of her state to take care of her people and it looks like she was doing a mighty fine job. Hence the 83% approval rating.
What I would be interested in is the same author looking at the lower 48, and seeing how much of their profits are off the top before a product leaves their state? I would imagine it is very close to that. It is a governor's job to look out for the people of the state, and she obviously put her people first. More power to her! If she pushes for the same principle on a federal level, we will do nothing but benefit.
Good grief, this person castigates the woman for doing her job and doing it well. At least she didn't siphon off a chunk for herself like many other corrupt politicians..it went right back to the people of her state.
And the interviewer could not resist the class warfare jibe: "Well I guess that means the Alaskan people are more important than we are..blah, blah, blah."
If this guy lived in Alaska he would be singing a different tune...sour grapes, class warfare. Typical.
Yep, I would be interested to know how much revenue from oil from Texas, oil from Oklahoma, coal from West Virginia...how much of that revenue is kept at the state level? My guess is as much as Palin kept in Alaska from Alaska's oil.
This article just reinforced for me why her influence is needed in Washington. She looks after the people who put her in office. Exactly what she SHOULD be doing IMHO.
What if McCain wrote a book
And in his biography, he made statements like not ingratiating myself to blacks.
Showing loyalty to the white masses
Or made a statement saying I never emulate black or brown men.....
Do you think there would be any chance he'd be a presidential candidate right now?
If McCain wrote a book, this is what it would say sm
McCain's book would say this:
Chapter One:
I am an admiral's son. I was a POW for 5 years. My wife waited for me and I ditched her when I got home for Cindy. A month after my divorce, I married Cindy the botox queen who bobs her head and makes $100 million a year. I don't want to be her little houseboy so I'm trying to be president so she can be proud and I can help all her corporate friends.
I'm skanky and old and I follow what GW Bush says and does, although now that he tanked our country, I'm trying to backpedal on that until after the election. Right now we are trying to figure out how to steal votes in a less sleazy fashion than the past 2 elections. We have the power and we aren't giving it up easily.
My worst idea ever was getting Sarah Palin but I cannot admit mistakes so now I just go and defend her before anyone even opens their mouths. I say ISN'T SHE GREAT, while inside I'm kicking myself. She made me lose long time republicans. I know if I die after hopefully being elected the big bad repubs will impeach her butt in a heartbeat. Speaking of heartbeat, I'm sorry I slobbered and gasped so much during the debate last night. I don't want my supporters to think I'm sick...I was just trying to distract people who were listening to Obie. He is really stealing the show.
I don't know why the Hillary supporters don't like Palin. Do you suppose they aren't as dumb as I'd hoped? I was hoping they would be satisfied with those 2 having as little in common as labia majora and a a vijayjay. Oh well. Can't please everyone.
By the way, did you know Palin's husband belonged to a fringe group that tried to get Alaska to secede from the Union? That will be the grounds to impeach her if I kick the bucket. Oh heck yeah, we good ole boys have it all figured out.
Anyone have a clue why Jackson Brown, Survivor, Heart and all those other bands won't let me use their music? I sure can't ask the Dixie Chicks now can I?
Ain't it a shame how everyone came down on them girls for speaking against Bush when they were 100 percent right? Whoops, well I can say that now that I'm trying to distance myself from the C student whose daddy got him into Yale. But he is a rich boy and I only hang with rich boys.
Let's see now. One more thing. I was brilliant last night with my Joe the Plumber. Good thing nobody found out until after the debate that he was a republican plant. He was on talk radio, the right wing hater shows, even before the debate. Yeah, he was a plant, not just some random thing but haha fooled everyone for a night. Now if I can just fool them until the election.
Peace! I mean WAR. More war more war more war!
FactCheck.org wrote about this in August
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Teddy wrote books about something other than himself!
You can hardly compare Obama's narcissistic biographies with Teddy's books where he researched and wrote about something other than himself!
Who wrote the stimulus bill, do you know?...
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Someone wrote a letter to the editor
in our local paper and asked why are they giving them bonuses when they should be firing them for making such a mess in the first place.
She probably thinks she WROTE the Bible.
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Also I was responding to the person who wrote that
say the opposite. BT stated it correctly.
Now nuff said.
As I wrote to him, Tom Tancreda or Duncan Hunter.
I suggested a REAL Republican like one of those fine men for his running mate.
do u mean the founding fathers that actually wrote our constition?
The ones that didn't wipe their a$$e$ on it? The ones that wanted to separate church from state? The ones that wanted liberty from tyranny?
This is what I wrote in my message below called outrageous
Their blatant glutton is so sickening I could just puke! Families losing their jobs, homes, 401K's, retirements. People are in such hard times right now, bailouts after bailouts after bailouts and congress (all pretty close to millionaires if not more) goes and just gives themselves a pay raise. I'm am so sick to death of the whole political scene.
JTBB wrote 7 lines, you say she conflated them into
16 issues and can't answer. Did I read you correctly, you're going to be an intelligence analyst? OMG!!
I made a mistake and was trying to respond to the post below by *LOL* when I wrote that.
in the article you posted, nor did I see the word *impeach* anywhere in the article.
I agree with your comments and with the article you referred to, and I understood the comments of LOL to mean that the article was responding to some sort of "talking points" and using the word impeach often, when in fact, it can't be found once in that article.
As far as impeaching Bush, I believe time will tell. I personally believe he's guilty of war crimes, and that his war will be judged to be illegal before the end of his "reign as King of the USA." (if we all manage to survive that long).
The mere fact that he led us into this war based on lies should be enough to impeach him.
If I offended you, then I truly apologize. I agree with you and I'm glad you posted this article. I surely wouldn't have referred you back to the very article you obviously read and posted and tell you to educate yourself, and in no way, shape or form do I believe you are ignorant; far from it.
If you posted the LOL statement below, then I apologize for misunderstanding what you meant by it.
I made a mistake when posting my post, and instead of winding up under the intended post, it wound up under yours instead. Again, I'm sorry if I offended you.
Didn't read your response before I wrote mine....
lol. Good post :)
Pubs wrote the book on voter fraud.
nm
Thomas Sowell wrote the article, maybe you should read it...
not my facts, chicky.
I'm glad you wrote bible with a lower case
Because there are a million bibles out there...bible simply means book. But the Holy Bible there is only one of, of which there are thousands of manuscripts, and of which authenticity was proved (again) by the manuscripts found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
I've told you a million times that I do not make that call, Jesus Christ does. All authority has been given to Him. I'm just one of many messengers.
And since you have no idea who I am, don't confuse yourself with thinking I am in a little locked-in box. You have no idea the kind of life I have led, the things I have seen, and the things I have done. I spent six years trying as hard as I could to disprove Jesus and Christianity. To this day I still doubt many things, but doubting is good, it makes you search for the truth that much harder. I question points all the time, but i do so in sincerity, not facetiousness. Therefore God reveals the answers to me. However, He didn't do so until I honestly asked Him.
McCain's speech was well written (for him, I doubt he wrote it himself), but he is not a great s
He does not have 'it'.
Obama has 'it'.
Well done, Obama.
Arrgh..I wrote you a long answer, and had a bad word in it, and when I went back (sm)
my message disappeared! I am trying to finish some work so will have to rewrite it later.
I think you wrote a wonderful post; but the "giving money to the rich,"....sm
historically has been the rule of the day while the Republicans were in power, I think Mr. Cheney prospered the most during the Bush administration and his cronies. And I agree it is NOT a partisan thing, right is right, wrong is wrong, but at this point in time we have a new president who has only been in office a month; he is ambitious, forward-thinking, altruistic, decisive, and strong. I agree some of those programs SHOULD have been left out, but perhaps he had to make those concessions in order to get the more important social programs and reforms this country needs. He is tring to perform a MAMMOTH, HERCULEAN task, I respect him for it, and he deserves more of a chance than he is getting. I he has made many speeches saying that he proposes to hold more and more corporations and institutions ACCOUNTABLE for their actions and suffer consequences. Can we give him the time to do so? JMHO
...more thoughts
My feeling is that there aren't many cartoon characters that are as scary as he is. And he does appear to be a remorseless person, capable of just about anything. He has been a big orchestrator of the untruths Bush has mouthed, especially during the campaign. I can't believe he is as ignorant as it appears he was in this Plame case and that's why it's so interesting as it slowly unfolds. He seems much too devious to be caught up in something like this.
My thoughts on this
This is a twerpy, paranoid person with a tiny mind who is trying to be a tyrant on this board, as are most of the rude posters who appear on here from time to time. Unfortunately on some level they always succeed in their need to upset this board because they are very hard to ignore, like an annoying insect.
My thoughts
Unfortunately even though many of us feel we are responsible citizens on this earth, we can't rely on all our neighbors (whether globally or down the block) to also take the same care we do. Recycling still is random from state to state and lots of folks still choose not to recycle....and therefore over time it has to become a mandate. Historically that is when laws are needed, when some folks can be responsible but others can't. It seems an odd riddle that older laws we easily embrace and defend (many which are kind of silly but still on the lawbooks), but yet as the need for new or revised ones crop up we resist and feel our liberty is at risk.
I'm not sure why anyone would balk at conservation.....or even many aspects of environmentalism. My greatest hope is to leave this earth in as good of shape as possible for my children and grandchildren as well as other's children and grandchildren. Unfortunately at this point I am hoping we can at least leave a habitable planet in 50 years to our future generations. It is my true belief that our human discord will very soon become secondary to a global environmental breakdown that is a greater threat than any war has ever been. Hope I am wrong.
Thanks for you thoughts
It's not that I dislike Hillary, it's just that I have some misgivings about her and admit I know little about her political stance....and I like Obama and Edwards without any reservation. I would gladly vote for her if she gets the nomination...that I do know!!
a few thoughts
Although I tend to be Pro-Choice I am very much against abortion. The whole idea of it is disturbing for me, to say the least. As far as the death penalty, I think that's a bad idea also, but there are times when I find it hard to feel sympathy for the person being put to death.....I guess I'm human.
Anyway, I've always wondered why the political belief systems align in such an odd manner, as you have alluded to. It seems one group is totally against abortion but support the death penalty, support aggression in our foreign policy, support most military actions, and take a negative, hard line on government funding of programs to help the poor, particularly children of the poor. Alternately, liberals seem to be more peaceful, war-as-a-last-resort, question the ethics of a death penalty, generosity toward those less fortunate by choice or by circumstance, yet also support Pro-Choice. This has always puzzled me.
I am an agnostic and happy to let the mystery be without pretending and hoping to know the answers to the unknowable. I find spiritualism most evident in nature and feel that man needs to protect and love his/her planet. After all, it's all we have. We need to be as conservation-minded as possible and reign in overpopulation to start with.....
Some other thoughts
I agree that if she is running for the white house and it is a very close race she had every right to stay in. Nobody was telling her to get out, they were simply pointing out the mathemetical facts that there is no way she can win because she is too far behind. I've never heard any news people saying she should get out. So her & Bill's argument that everyone is picking on her and everyone is telling her to get out does not have a leg to stand on (especially because when asked to name who in the news is saying she should get out they don't have a name to give). She has fought hard (sometimes dirty - but then again each candidate fights dirty). So while I agree that she should stay in when it is so close, what I don't agree with is just ignoring the facts and treating Obama like he doesn't matter and that his supporters that voted for him don't matter. I don't agree with her doing "fuzzy math" and saying certain states that voted for him - well they don't matter. When she does her math about her having more votes, she is not counting Maine, Iowa and some other state, and she is giving some reason why she is not counting their vote (as though it's a legitimate reason). She says Michigan counts but Iowa doesn't? And New York counts but South Carolina doesn't? And this other state she won counts but one that Barack one doesn't? And she thinks that is legitimate??? And she thinks it perfectly fine that she had her name on the ballot but he didn't when they both agreed not to. They said today that the people who wanted to vote for Obama couldn't because his name was not on the ballot. And they had a total id*iot today saying, yeah, so? That is the most demoralizing thing to say as a reply. Everyone was in an uproar when Cheney said "so" when they said 1/3 of America doesn't agree to the war. Well the people should be equally in an uproar when not both candidates name is on the ticket when they BOTH agreed that it would be that way (i.e. neither name on the ballot). She and her supporters are just coming outright saying...only my votes count. If you voted for Obama, well your votes don't count. And I'm going to fight hard so that only the people that voted for me will be counted. To heck with the rest of you. That is very disrespectful and that is what angers me. Especially since she is saying "every vote should count". I also do not like being in the same category that she is saying all white women are voting for her. The fact is more white woman over 55 are voting for her. The white women under 55 and a lot of the "white" people who have had some college education are voting for Obama. She likes to inflate it to include all white people. She makes it sound as if only black people are voting for him. She doesn't care if the Obama supporters are upset or not, only her side matters to her. Which again it is a race and while I do understand what she is doing I don't approve. She has had a hard campaign (so has Obama). I also think its funny that so many republicans are trying to push people to vote for Hillary. That is because they know McCain will win hands over Hillary. Yes nobody wants another 3rd Bush term with McCain but there are so many more that do not want a 3rd Clinton term. Has to make you think, why are the republicans so determined to get her in? Because they know they will win. They don't want Obama in there because they know they can't win against him. As for her supporters...they are saying they won't vote for Obama, but when it comes down to it they will vote for him. The reason I believe they will is that Hillary has said through her campaign the most important thing is getting a Democrat in there. I hope (I was going to say I have no doubt, however, I do have a little doubt so hope is a better term), I hope that she does everything to bring a Democrat (Obama) into the white house. A lot of people support her and if they support and believe in her then they should support her decidion to get Obama elected and will vote for him. On the other hand, that little bit of doubt that creeps into my mind is that I have a sinking feeling she is going to sabatage his campaign so that McCain will be elected due to her actions and she will run again in 4 years. I guess her attempts at smearing Obama with the Rev Wright didn't work (it was her senior campaign officials that pushed that story) and now they are trying something else. We'll see how it goes. One thing she definitely needs to do is quell some of supporters into not looking like total id*iots with their screaming rampages of how its being stolen from her by a "black man" and what they say about "nobody is going to vote for a black man" and that it is just handed to Barack because he is black then McCain is going to win. This argument is biggotted and stu*pid and she should make a speech to her supporters telling them the truth and they need to put their difference of opinion aside and do the right thing. This is a contest and he is winning fair! That's the plain and simple truth. It's time to bring the democratic party together, not tear it apart for their own personal gain.
Just a few thoughts.
First of all, if your sister has been attending the same church that long and doesn't know what they are preaching about......that is just sad. As for Rev. Wright, he is all about African American Theology. Look it up.......that kind of belief is downright scary. It is all black power and no equality to it. It is racism and that is that.
Finally, my husband and I use the comment of being thrown under the bus all the time. The has been around long before the McCain campaign.
my thoughts
hatred comes from within; it is a fear-based, primitive emotion. No one can MAKE you hate. You have to come to that conclusion based on the way you view the world. Please do not project such things on a good man.
My thoughts
I will try and make this short (ya - right) . I'm reading the responses below and I am laughing. Maybe because it's late right now, but I'm reading the responses and trying to picture what you all look like and the shock that must come across your faces with the responses you receive (because I know the face I make when someone throws me a line). Just is making me giggle right now - like I say it's late.
Okay, with that said this is my feelings about both sides. I was anxious to watch the DNC this week and I will be anxious to watch the RNC next week. I want to hear what everyone has to say on both sides. I want to watch the movies about JM's life. I saw BO's film about his life and I enjoyed it. Barack seems like a very nice person who has worked hard to get where he is and has helped a lot of people (that is normal people like me, my family and friends who have lost jobs, housing etc). It sounds like he was raised on the same values I was (about caring about other people, helping those you can). I believe with the community service and past jobs he's had, and the time he has spent in the senate, he does have the experience and the common sense that a Commander in Chief needs to run a country.
At first I was hesitant to even watch tonight because the whole set up I felt was getting out of hand. People were throwing out the terms rock star, greek, temple, etc, etc. When I first saw it coming together I thought well that's a bit odd and why didn't they just have it where the convention has been all week, but once it filled in with all the people it didn't look like anything greek or a temple. I just looked like a stage on a football field filled with lots of people, and he didn't come across as a rock star. He looked very statesman like, and I could really look up to him as our Commander In Chief. Listening to him speak I was reminded of how I felt when I watched Ronald Regan talk. I felt very patriotic. To me it looked like a lot of people just wanted to hear him speak. I also didn't watch all the stuff before Barack came out because I can't stand Sheryl Crow, Bruce Springsteen (which for the life of me I wish someone could tell me the words to his songs - I listened to the music they played last night and honestly there was not one single word in his songs I could identify - not an "it" "and" or "but" it was all mumbled together - anyway...that's a whole other story). And I certainly can't stand Algore so there was no way I was going to listen to anything he had to drone on about, so I waited until the story of Barack's life and that's when I watched. I did feel that Baracks speech tonight was truly one of the more inspiring speeches I have heard in a long time. I do believe he has the American people's best interest at heart. He is a very caring person and has dedicated his life to trying to change Washington so it works for American's. He has plans that will help get the American economy back on track. It's not going to be instantly but at least I feel there will be someone who understand that America should not continue into a depression while we continue to send $1.8 billion dollars every week to Iraq when they have a surplus. I sit back and think about that and am thinking when is the madness going to end. Iraq has a surplus, we're heading for a depression yet we continue to send money to them. I believe Barack has a responsible plan to bring our troops home. The republicans are now coming out saying that the war has been a success and we won. So if we won we don't need to be there anymore. So I thought overall Barack's speech was very inspiring and gave me some hope for the future.
Also I listened to the commentaries tonight. Not all cos I had to work, but I listened to the republican commenters from Fox and two of them said that Baracks speech was inspiring and they were saying that they (DNC) spent a lot of time and effort preparing for tonight and he came through and gave one of the best speeches and really pulled it through.
My mom told me that you will never agree with a candidate on every issue, so you just vote for the one that you agree with most of the issues on. For me right now I'm seeing that I agree with more of Barack's issues than JM's, but I need to hear more.
On the economy I believe Barack is more knowlegable. I don't believe McCain knows what's going on with the economy. He seems to be stuck on how the economy is great but ask him specific questions and he does not know the answers. When he does not even know how many homes he owns how do you think he would even know how the economy is doing? He's not in touch with what we are going through as Americans. He doesn't know what it's like to worry if your going to be able to put food on your table, or put gas in the car to go to work or even have a job. As for jobs, he has voted and supported jobs going overseas and those companies getting tax breaks for doing that.
Foreign affairs. While Barack may not have years and years of experience, Joe Biden does. I think John McCain isn't very knowlegeable when it comes to foreign affairs (not when he has to constantly be corrected by Lieberman and others close to him).
Heath care - I don't know where John McCain stands on this so I can't comment.
But those are the issues I face everyday. Am I going to have a job with income to pay my bills and where is the economy going. And it's time to bring our troops home with dignity and give them whatever help they need. That's another issue I don't agree with John McCain/Bush about. I do not believe the republican party is doing as much as they can to help our troops, especially when its time for them to come home where they belong.
I do not feel that America is any safer than we were before 9-11. I know we have really p.o.'d other countries sticking our nose in where it doesn't belong trying to dictate to them how they should live and trying to force our viewpoints and political system on them making them fashion theirs as we do ours.
Also, lying in a POW camp for 5 years does not make you qualified to run a country.
More thoughts
I've read all the posts below and it's getting confusing, so I don't want to post something to the wrong person but I have some more thoughts I have to share.
First...I used the word "lying" instead of "being". That does not make me discipicable. I just used the wrong word (it's been done before on other posts so please don't attack me for that). It took away from my message which I still stand by...solely being a POW does not automatically make you qualified to run a country. Balancing the budget, getting the economy back on track, fixing the housing problem, etc, etc. To me that is what makes you qualified. Everytime someone says that being a POW does not make you qualified (which it does not), there is a poster that gets on the defensive. Nobody here is judging McCain's character or patriotism, or heroism, but it sounds like you are basically saying forget everything else, he was a POW he should be president. I just don't buy that. We all know he is a patriot. Nobody is taking that away from him but for me I need to know what your voting record is like. Second I'm reading posts and it sounds like your also saying that he is qualified because he was a POW at Hanoi Hilton. When someone brought up what about the other people being tortured your saying no they wouldn't be qualified because they weren't tortured at Hanoi Hilton and only John McCain knows what torture is. Well tell that to Jessica Lynch. Are you saying that her torture is any less because she wasn't tortured at Hanoi Hilton?
I was in the military, married military, father in military, uncle & grandfather in military. One thing they teach us in the military is torture is torture. They also teach us how to best endure it if we have to go through it (although endure is not the right word, but they tell us what we are supposed to and not supposed to do). We all have to face that possibility when we join.
Being tortured also does something to your mind. That is fact! You are never the same person you are than before you were tortured.
As for John McCains service one poster said he commanded hundreds of soldiers. I read McCain's story. He was a military officer and pilot. He was in a POW camp, but no where in his time in the service did he command hundreds of soldiers. Not all military officers command soldiers.
Lastly, of all people who know what torture is - he voted against (that's right - AGAINST) the bill to ban waterboarding (which is torture!). So he is basically saying no to other countries torturing Americans, but yes to us torturing other people. What?????? To me that tells me something about his "character". Patriot? Yes he is most definitely Patriot. Hero? Yes he is most defintely hero. Character? He has none in my book. Also, his time in the senate and how he treated his fellow senators diminished his character too. Sorry if that offends you but someone who votes that we can torture other people? Well I guess he developed a motto as a POW - "Do unto others as they do unto you".
Again - solely being in a POW camp and being in the military does not make you qualified to be President but how you vote in the senate, what you do to help other Americans, and the plans you have to bring the country out of recession does.
Exactly my thoughts......
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Some thoughts
Oh my...Charles Manson...now that's creepy for you. When I lived in the Mohave Desert I actually was driving on some highway or road (forget where right now), but I didn't feel right. I just had this creepy feeling. When I told my friend about it she said that was the same road that Manson had travelled on on his way to murder the Tates and others. I didn't know that at the time. Manson is one case I believe the death penalty was warranted in.
You are correct. Ayers is not running for President, but Ayers did start Obama's political career in his home. Ayers and Obama worked closely together. I believe (as do many others), that Obama's ties with Ayers are just temporarily stopped while he is campaigning. No doubt in my mind he will get back with him once the campaign is over. But then you have Acorn and the Annenberg Foundation, the money Ayers/Obama distributed, etc, etc.
As for Obama's drug use in the past. I don't care about that. A lot of people did drugs (Bill Clinton did drugs and I voted for him). In our youths a lot of us do things we don't realize we will regret in the future. I don't believe Obama does drugs now AND McCain also does not do drugs now.
As for McCain and his first wife. You don't know the whole story. None of us do. Things happen in life that are tragic. People do fall out of love. My mom was a very beautiful lady (she was ballerina), and my mom and dad divorced. And they DID remain friend after that and even when she was in the hospital dying he came to visit her every day and even though they were divorced you could see they were good friends (laughed and talked about old times). People don't divorce each other just because of looks. Besides people heard John comforting his wife when she told him she was not pretty anymore he said he was not the most handsome himself. If John's first wife says she admires him and they are best friends I believe her. Why wouldn't I. I am sure the divorce had more to do with "looks", and there are people that say the marriage was over long before that. Nobody knows the "real" reason behind the divorce and I guess that would be a question to ask John McCain instead of trying to incite hatred toward a guy you have no idea about the history of. Right now McCain has been married to Cindy for 28 years and they are totally in love with each other. Always have been.
We do have 9 more days and I can't wait for the election to be over.
My thoughts
This is not going to any poster in specific and certainly not the OP - these are just my thoughts. I have many feelings about this. While I think it's wrong and would never have an abortion myself, I also believe in a woman's right to choose. If the abortion happens before the baby starts to develop (and please don't reply with a step by step guide to the stages of a baby's life from conception to birth - I know it already and no pictures or videos either - have seen them all too and I won't even open it if someone replies with those). What I'm saying is I (personally) believe that if you have an abortion at a time before the baby starts to develop (brain, nerves, etc) that is the time to have one. Once the baby starts to develop then I believe it is harming the baby. I know a lot will not agree with me, but that's my own opinion. Whether it is considered murder or not is between the mother and the Creator. Seeing as nobody has been to "heaven" and spoken directly to our Creator and lived to come back and tell us all about it, nobody knows. Options - yes there are a lot of options like adoption (I'm childless and would have loved to adopt). However, whatever a woman chooses with her doctor is their rights as a woman and as human beings. A lot will argue that it is a sin, the bible this or that, but a lot of us are not christians or believe in the bible and that is our right as human beings too. I think (again only my opinion) if anyone is going to "force" someone to have a baby because of what they believe the bible says (according to their interpretation that is), then you are also forcing your religion on them and telling them they have to have this baby no matter what the circumstances because your bible (your religion) says so. Maybe those people who are doing the "forcing" should be "forced" themselves to take the baby and raise it yourself (no you don't get to get out of it and let someone else pay all expenses (health, food, clothing for the rest of the baby's life (until they are old enough of course), and you don't get to let someone else get up in the middle of the night to do everything you have to do with a baby. YOU will take the baby yourself and YOU will be forced to raise it. Seeing as you are trying to force someone to have a child (because of your religious beliefs) that child then be your responsibility. Maybe after 20 or so kids you'd finally let people live their own lives and face whatever challenges they have to face in lives by themselves. To me this is what life is all about. We face certain challenges in life that our Creator gives us. How we handle them determines what becomes of us after we are gone. Again, until we face "Him" after we have departed nobody will know. I do understand that people feel they are the voice of the unborn child and that's all fine and good and I respect all for that, but I also respect the mother and her physician for their choice they have to make in a difficult time. As for the ones having abortions as a form of birth control - that's a whole nother argument and for that there is a technique called sterilization. IF I am wrong one day when I meet my Creator I will find out and I'll take my Creator's answer any day over anyone who is reading something from a book I don't believe in. Again, all of this is my own opinion.
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2. The US Department of Energy last time I checked was a page or two before the "funnies."
I was referring to Obama's web site.
3. Within the same time (or probably less) that we could drill for more oil here in the US (which wouldn't even come close to producing the quantity we use, and would not stand a chance on the market due to taxes that are already in place) we could implement other sources of energy. In the course of this we would be providing renewable energy, decrease the horrific environmental impact on the environment, and create new jobs.
Sure, we could grow corn or soybeans or other alternative fuels. We could go with T. Boone Pickens' windfarm ideas, but these would all take years to implement as well as billions upon billions of dollars to bring to fruition. Oil fields create jobs in the fields themselves, the refineries that are already in existence and other industries that use petroleum products in their manufacturing process. Coal already comprises a large portion of the portfolio of electric companies. Do away with the coal mines and coal plants and you do away with a lot of jobs in already economically depressed areas. What are we gonna do, move all our West Virginia coal miners out to the mid west to grow soy beans? You are basically taking jobs away from one sector to provide them to another sector so, in fact, are not creating new jobs but just shuffling them around.
My point is not so much that we should not investigate other fuel alternatives, but until we have them in place, don't fine the coal plants for producing the energy our country needs and don't stop the drilling to save the caribou (they are amazingly adaptive critters). Personally, I don't think energy concerns are going to be on anyone's minds in a few short years. They will have other things to worry about.
My thoughts exactly.
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Your thoughts on this?
Please take note to the heading and paragraph 3. Aren't we trying to put people to work? Don't white male construction workers need employment, too? Please read some of the comments, too. The people that made comments seem to have a handle on the construction job market. I found some of their comments very interesting.
http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2009/01/stimulus-how-to-create-jobs-without.html
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