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Trying to PROTECT us. Dont worry, we wont

Posted By: that will all go away with the new president.nm on 2009-02-21
In Reply to: We lost our freedom with the last admin. - wire tapping, Patriot Act, etc....nm - sm

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Dont worry. When Obama is done, there will be no
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Dont worry, ACORN makes up for any of that.
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Dont worry. Obama is going to make this a welfare
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Dont worry about Bush. OBAMA is ruining
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dont worry, you wont catch on fire when you read them!
i have to go know and pick up my daughter.  I might do some bible thumping on the way to the school, who knows.
Dear Miss Thang. If you dont like it, dont watch.
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rational to one is irrational to another..dont like it, dont read it
Rational posts?  Well, maybe you would think that, however, I disagree..but, what the heck, from your continual posts attacking me over the past few months, it is obvious that we dont agree on anything.  Gotta tell ya, no one chases a person from a chat board..that is a lame excuse for someone who obviously was not able to hold his/her own with the smart liberals who post on this  liberal board.  So gt chased her/him away.  On please!  If a poster is getting to you, you just ignore their posts..dont click on them..Viola!  It is that easy!  Or dont come on the liberal board if you do not like liberal ideology!  Viola!  It is that easy!  So, Im here all the time am I?  Well, punkin, I see your handle always on both this board and the dinosaur board..er..I mean conservative board.  Is this what your debating has gotten down to?  Lets count and see who is here more often?  How ridiculous, how childish, how so....republican.  **BIG HUG**
I dont hate Obama. I just dont see him as qualified
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You dont get it. Most dont want O to fail, they feel
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Why would they want to protect him.
He admitted his guilt.  Once you admit guilt, you have no rights as you are guilty. 
Protect all holes when

Bill has a cigar in hand!!! 


FIRE ON THE HOLE!!!


Absolutely we do......to protect ourselves from those
who don't work, who steal, kill, and can't wait to get my free money handouts from the government that will steal even MORE from me.
Laws protect more than that...
You don't have to be a citizen in the United States to be protected from being murdered. You just have to be human and alive, both of which can also be said of UNBORN CHILDREN. Or are we to believe that a tourist, or a person who is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States, is NOT protected from being murdered? Can I just go out and kill anybody I want to just because they aren't citizens? Ahhh, no. I don't think so.

And the whole "mind your own business" argument doesn't hold water. A human life is taken during an abortion, the same as when it is taken during a murder. Are we all to just "mind our own business" and "just don't kill anybody?" No, it doesn't work that way. Just because you don't choose to kill someone, or have an abortion, doesn't mean we can just "live and let live" - particularly since people who commit abortions and murders DON'T let their victim live...at all.

These are exactly the types of arguments/mantra that have been spewed from the mouths of people who TRY to make us believe this is a women's issue to help us make a choice about "our bodies." If it was only my body, I would agree. But it is not my body that is being killed. It is my child. Men, women, children, citizen or not - no one has the right to take a human life.
or use them to protect the food I have.
just a thought.
Oh, poor thing.....they need you to protect them
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but there was already a law in place to protect the babies -
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I haven't, but my husband did to protect us both

We were younger and had went out to a party.  A guy was drinking and mixing it with pills.  He was totally out of it.  He tried to pick a fight with my husband, saying he was big and bad enough to whip the biggest guy there.  My husband was 6 foot 6 inches and about 225.  Anyway, my husband wasn't going to fight with him, and we left and came home.  We live in a rural area.  About 1/2 hour later the guy is standing out in front of our house, near the road, screaming for my husband to come out and fight or he's going to start shooting!  The next sound we hear is a shotgun racking and then he fires a shotgun blast off into the air.  OMG!!  I was terrified.  My husband shoved me off the couch and into the floor.  Then he crawled across the floor and pulled the cord on the lamp and turned off the TV, so it was dark in the house.  I had no idea what else he was doing.  I was lying on the living room flooor and had dialed 911 and was screaming for help.  Next thing I know, the guy out front fires another shot and it hits the picture window and the window shatters!  


What I didn't know was my husband had went through the house, grabbed his gun out of the closet, and went out the back door.  He shot back, shooting into the air at a pear tree that guy was standing under.  It was late August and when he hit that pear tree, it rained down pears on the guy outside!  He fired one more over the guy's head as a warning and then lowered the barrel of the gun towards the guy.  The guy decided my husband was serious and ran to his truck and took off.  Luckily the police caught him about 2 miles down the road.  I had given them a description of his pickup and he passed them as they were on their way to our house. 


They came to the house and talked to us.  They saw the shattered window and the shots were heard on the 911 tape along with my frantic call for help.  They told my husband they didn't blame him, they would have done the same thing, he was defending his home and family.  The guy was convicted and went to jail.  What the guy at the party didn't know was my husband was an ex-Marine trained for combat and had marksmanship medals from Marine competition.  He picked the wrong guy to try to scare with a gun!  But it was scarey.  I was scared to death. It was the most terrifying thing that has ever happened to me.  I couldn't sleep for weeks afterwards and was a nervous wreck.  I don't wish anything like that on anybody!


 


I don't feel like he won't protect the country.
He has just as much to lose as anyone else. Why wouldn't he protect the country.
You don't have to be a trigger-happy cowboy going around putting out fires to show your love and protection for your country. Sometimes you can actually have enough foresight, make proper choices, use good judgement and prevent fires from happening in the first place.
He'll do fine. stop worrying.

you wanna go there? Define protect
We arbitrarily attacked a country that had no solid links to the attack. That has been proven. To say it was not known then is not an arguable point because it was not known then, so again, we attacked a country without probable cause.

Since our current President has been in power, no attacks have occurred. The only attack on US soil since WW II (by a known attacker, the Japanese) has been under the power of George W. Bush, and according to you, he would be the least strongest president in the present day.

To 'protect' does not translate into an aggressive attack, especially if the attacker is not a known entity.
It's a gag order to protect the dolt
He started calling the media and proudly proclaiming his guilt, that he knew what he did, that it was part of an Islamic revenge for our presence in the middle east, ad nauseum. I can't remember if it was the DA or the judge, but they quickly threw a gag order on everything because his shooting off his mouth would likely have led to a mistrial because of the inability to find a jury that hadn't been tainted by his pretrial blathering.
Protect us???? He did not listen to all the Intelligence Reports....sm
that a large-scale attack was imminent, his Daddy lit the flame by going over to Iraq the first time to secure Daddy Bush's and his friend's oil interests there, they did not care a FIG about the poor Kuwaitis! We are more hated as a nation now, because of the Bush policies, than we have EVER been in history, and instead if his getting Bin Ladin, as he vowed, he helped the Bin Ladin family living in LA to escape the country becaue of the wrath of the people. Speaking of Kool-Aid? Blind pubs must have bought the factory and have been living on the stuff the past 8 years, unbelievable!
Halliburton Didn't Protect Soldiers' Water
(I wonder what else they won't protect if/when they're put in charge after the Dubai deal goes through.  And I believe Bush will find a way to push it through right under Americans' noses, since I believe his loyalty lies clearly with rich Arabs and not with the safety of Americans.)

 

Updated:2006-03-16 07:52:03

 

Halliburton Didn't Protect Soldiers' Water

 

Internal Memo Warns of 'Mass Sickness or Death'

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WASHINGTON (March 16) - Halliburton Co. failed to protect the water supply it is paid to purify for U.S. soldiers throughout Iraq, in one instance missing contamination that could have caused mass sickness or death, an internal company report concluded.


The report, obtained by The Associated Press, said the company failed to assemble and use its own water purification equipment, allowing contaminated water directly from the Euphrates River to be used for washing and laundry at Camp Ar Ramadi in Ramadi, Iraq.


The problems discovered last year at that site - poor training, miscommunication and lax record keeping - occurred at Halliburton's other operations throughout Iraq, the report said.


Countrywide, all camps suffer to some extent from all or some of the deficiencies noted, Wil Granger, Theatre Water Quality Manager in the war zone for Halliburton's KBR subsidiary, wrote in his May 2005 report.


AP reported earlier this year allegations from whistleblowers about the Camp Ar Ramadi incident, but Halliburton never made public Granger's internal report alleging wider problems.


The water quality expert warned Halliburton the problems will have to be dealt with at a very elevated level of management to protect health and safety of U.S. personnel.


Halliburton said Wednesday it conducted a second review last year that found no evidence of any illnesses in Iraq from water and it believes some of its earlier conclusions were incomplete and inaccurate. The company declined to release the second report.


The company said it has worked closely with the Army to develop standards and take action to ensure that the water provided in Iraq is safe and of the highest quality possible.


Halliburton was headed by Vice President Dick Cheney for several years before he ran for vice president. Its KBR subsidiary, also known as Kellogg Brown & Root, works under contract to provide a number of services to the U.S. military in Iraq, including providing water and purifying it.


The contaminated, non-chlorinated water at Ar Ramadi was discovered in March 2005 in a commode by Ben Carter, a KBR water expert at the base. In an interview, Carter said he resigned after KBR barred him from notifying the military and senior company officials about the untreated water.


A supervisor at Ar Ramadi told me to stop e-mailing company officials outside the base and warned that informing the military was none of my concern, Carter said. He said he threatened to sue if company officials didn't let him be examined to determine whether he suffered medical problems from exposure to the contaminated water.


Granger's report cited several countrywide problems:


A lack of training for key personnel. Theatre wide there is no formalized training for anyone at any level in concerns to water operations.


Confusion between KBR and military officials over their respective roles. For instance, each assumed the other would chlorinate the water at Ar Ramadi for any uses that would require the treatment.


Inadequate or nonexistent records that could have caught problems in advance. Little or no documentation was kept on water inventories, safety stand-downs, audits of water quality, deliveries, inspections and logs showing alterations or modifications to water systems.


Relying on employees the company identified as semiskilled labor, and paid as unskilled workers in the pay structure.


The report said the event at Ar Ramadi could have been prevented if KBR's Reverse Osmosis Units on the site had been assembled, instead of relying on the military's water production facilities.


This event should be considered a 'near miss' as the consequences of these actions could have been very severe resulting in mass sickness or death, Granger wrote.


The report said that KBR officials at Ar Ramadi tried to keep the contamination from senior company officials.


The event that was submitted in a report to local camp management should have been classified as a recordable occurrence and communicated to senior management in a timely manner, Granger wrote. The primary awareness to this event came through threat of domestic litigation.


Beginning last May, Halliburton said it began using its equipment to remove contaminants, bacteria, and viruses in Ar Ramadi, and disinfect the water with chlorine. The company said KBR has worked closely with the Army to develop safe water standards.


It said its subsequent review in August-September 2005 found nonpotable water used for washing was effectively filtered to remove at least 99 percent of the parasite giardia and 90 percent of viruses. The Ar Ramadi water also tested negative for bacteria, Halliburton added.

At least he won't select the Arab emirates to protect our ports
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of course he lied - but no one died - he had a young daughter to protect...
All men would lie - when, in fact, it was nobody's freakin' business........that was Hillary's problem
I dont WANT war. Dont judge me!
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Don't worry

Humor is completely lost on them. 


Let me worry about how I look
don't worry your hateful little head.
Don't worry!

I am very sorry for the worry you will have.
At the same time, I  hope you did not share these feelings with your son.
here's what I worry about
I agree with you that she will back up Obama when he is the official presumptive nominee. I think she is sincere in wanting to get a Democrat in the white house, even if it's not her. What I worry about is in her neverending quest to be the nominee she has made her loyalists very anti-Obama. She's really hurting the Democrats' chances in November by fighting this so hard with the rules committee and all. We need a unified party for November. I also worry that her loyalists are going to try to bully Obama into putting her on the ticket (not a good pairing IMO), as in, put her on the ticket or we won't vote for you in November.
And......Does that worry you? nm
sssssssss
At least they don't have to worry about having to ...sm
lose everything they have worked for all their lives because of a serious illness that their insurance won't cover.
Something I think all of us should worry about.
This whole ACORN thing is just nuts.  A guy who is currently in England said that he already registered and voted early which proves that voter fraud is happening.  This is something that should concern both democrats and republicans.  Now I'm sure a lot of these registrations obviously won't show up to vote, but what about the ones who registered and then voted the same day.  What about them?  I just think it is a shame.  Our country is better than this.  The voters deserve better than this. I'm all for getting people to go out and vote.  That is our right as American citizens to cast our vote......but when dishonest people pull this kind of stuff....it just really saddens me.
Oh, don't worry about me...
I'd pass. Would you?
Well, don't worry............sm
you won't get rotund on Obama's ice cream. He will make sure of that.

Still, I think you are rude and extremely condescending and arrogant to talk to people the way you do. sheesh.
Don't worry
I don't think it will be too long after January 20th that this board will be filled with "I can't believe Obama did that" or "That's not what Obama said he was going to do" He's also backed out on the promise of Change by surrounding himself with reruns of the Clinton administration. The time to not be blinded was before the election - now we have to make sure we're not fooled for the next four years.
Don't worry, they are going to have
hands!
Don't worry, she ain't going away!! she
name....she has too much fun here arguing with herself! ! I think she is hilarious, which ever name she uses.
"I won't have to worry..."
Obviously you do not watch TV.  There have been numerous Obama supporters (albeit poor, uneducated people who were promised the moon to get on the bus and vote) who have been interviewed on TV stating, "I voted for Obama, now I won't have to worry about paying my mortage or paying for groceries or health care-Obama will take care of me now."  I've watched those people on TV and just go to YouTube and you can watch the reruns.
Don't worry Lu...
Jack Murtha already said he'd house some of them in his district in PA. They're no worse than what he has there already. How get gets re-elected I'll never know.
O is doing nothing to worry me, FYI. nm


Don't worry...(sm)
The "pigs" will balance the budget.  We just have to clean out all that manure that was left in the trough first.
nothing much we can do about it - so i just worry about
taking it 1 day at a time. If i keep my job 1 more day, i can buy some food. If i keep my job for 2 weeks, I can pay 1/2 my rent. And so on. MT is a hand-to-mouth world these days, so I dont have the time nor the energy to worry about what the big shots up on the Hill are doing.
Hon, don't worry about getting your
spelling straightened out. You got too many other problems in your life you need to get straightened out to worry about a little misspelled word!!!

No, that marriage ceremony was not gender specific, but how in the world would Adam and Steve ever have replenished the earth? Oh, I know, I am just one of those religious whacks, I guess. Thank God He gave me that much intelligence!! Good luck to you.
Not to worry. I don't think they'd be particularly
Regardless of what your sexual orientation might be.
Don't worry.
I am sure you will lose your rights and be extraordinarily renditioned by Homeland Security to one of the FEMA concentration camps for re-education before the bill comes due for this current economic crisis.
The only one who would worry about it is the one who has something to hide. sm
I could care less.  I won't answer in this thread anymore. 
I don't know. I worry about attorneys too
their life of fiscal sacrifice must be a hard cross to bear too...
I guess my worry is.
Like so many laws, once they are passed, they get bastardized to cover things they were not initially intended to.  I think this might be worth paying close attention to.  It just kind of makes me feel hinkey, if you know what I mean.
I wouldn't worry about it
Honestly, I think the last thing he needs to worry about is Hillary.  I doubt he will get into the White House to begin with.  The Rethugs will do anything to put a stop to that.  I think they are the bigger threat in this picture.
yeah that's what i sit and worry about
What difference does it make?  If she was wearing designer clothing, everyone would have something to say about that as well.  Who cares what she's wearing as long as she's respectful.  Gosh, some people find anything to complain about.