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I don't feel like he won't protect the country.

Posted By: sm on 2009-01-20
In Reply to: For me, being patriotic means standing up for your - COUNTRY, which worried O will not protect.nm

He has just as much to lose as anyone else. Why wouldn't he protect the country.
You don't have to be a trigger-happy cowboy going around putting out fires to show your love and protection for your country. Sometimes you can actually have enough foresight, make proper choices, use good judgement and prevent fires from happening in the first place.
He'll do fine. stop worrying.



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We can all only vote as we feel is best for the country

We don't have to agree.  It would be a sad state of affairs if everyone thought the same way.  As a "retired" MT, I thought Obama was referring to electronic medical records...the internet reference didn't bother me as that is how most of us get and do our work.  He probably is not well-versed in the field of MT.


As for McCain, I do not see  him as you do, one with character, honesty, integrity and the record to prove it.  I see him as an angry, sarcastic, old man who is hung up now on Joe the plumber, lacking anything else of substance. I think his chosing Palin as a running mate, doggonit, was his first show of what kind of president he would make.   As I said before, I will vote for Obama or better said, AGAINST John McCain.  It is my feeling that McCain and his running mate would finish taking this great country to its knees.


Possibly if world leaders favor an Obama administration, maybe it is because they see him as a president that wouldn't have to stick OUR noses in the business of the rest of the world.  Let us not forget Iraq and WMDs.  Bush lied and McCain agreed with him.  'Nuf said.


Why would they want to protect him.
He admitted his guilt.  Once you admit guilt, you have no rights as you are guilty. 
Protect all holes when

Bill has a cigar in hand!!! 


FIRE ON THE HOLE!!!


Absolutely we do......to protect ourselves from those
who don't work, who steal, kill, and can't wait to get my free money handouts from the government that will steal even MORE from me.
Laws protect more than that...
You don't have to be a citizen in the United States to be protected from being murdered. You just have to be human and alive, both of which can also be said of UNBORN CHILDREN. Or are we to believe that a tourist, or a person who is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States, is NOT protected from being murdered? Can I just go out and kill anybody I want to just because they aren't citizens? Ahhh, no. I don't think so.

And the whole "mind your own business" argument doesn't hold water. A human life is taken during an abortion, the same as when it is taken during a murder. Are we all to just "mind our own business" and "just don't kill anybody?" No, it doesn't work that way. Just because you don't choose to kill someone, or have an abortion, doesn't mean we can just "live and let live" - particularly since people who commit abortions and murders DON'T let their victim live...at all.

These are exactly the types of arguments/mantra that have been spewed from the mouths of people who TRY to make us believe this is a women's issue to help us make a choice about "our bodies." If it was only my body, I would agree. But it is not my body that is being killed. It is my child. Men, women, children, citizen or not - no one has the right to take a human life.
or use them to protect the food I have.
just a thought.
Oh, poor thing.....they need you to protect them
!!
but there was already a law in place to protect the babies -
nx
I haven't, but my husband did to protect us both

We were younger and had went out to a party.  A guy was drinking and mixing it with pills.  He was totally out of it.  He tried to pick a fight with my husband, saying he was big and bad enough to whip the biggest guy there.  My husband was 6 foot 6 inches and about 225.  Anyway, my husband wasn't going to fight with him, and we left and came home.  We live in a rural area.  About 1/2 hour later the guy is standing out in front of our house, near the road, screaming for my husband to come out and fight or he's going to start shooting!  The next sound we hear is a shotgun racking and then he fires a shotgun blast off into the air.  OMG!!  I was terrified.  My husband shoved me off the couch and into the floor.  Then he crawled across the floor and pulled the cord on the lamp and turned off the TV, so it was dark in the house.  I had no idea what else he was doing.  I was lying on the living room flooor and had dialed 911 and was screaming for help.  Next thing I know, the guy out front fires another shot and it hits the picture window and the window shatters!  


What I didn't know was my husband had went through the house, grabbed his gun out of the closet, and went out the back door.  He shot back, shooting into the air at a pear tree that guy was standing under.  It was late August and when he hit that pear tree, it rained down pears on the guy outside!  He fired one more over the guy's head as a warning and then lowered the barrel of the gun towards the guy.  The guy decided my husband was serious and ran to his truck and took off.  Luckily the police caught him about 2 miles down the road.  I had given them a description of his pickup and he passed them as they were on their way to our house. 


They came to the house and talked to us.  They saw the shattered window and the shots were heard on the 911 tape along with my frantic call for help.  They told my husband they didn't blame him, they would have done the same thing, he was defending his home and family.  The guy was convicted and went to jail.  What the guy at the party didn't know was my husband was an ex-Marine trained for combat and had marksmanship medals from Marine competition.  He picked the wrong guy to try to scare with a gun!  But it was scarey.  I was scared to death. It was the most terrifying thing that has ever happened to me.  I couldn't sleep for weeks afterwards and was a nervous wreck.  I don't wish anything like that on anybody!


 


you wanna go there? Define protect
We arbitrarily attacked a country that had no solid links to the attack. That has been proven. To say it was not known then is not an arguable point because it was not known then, so again, we attacked a country without probable cause.

Since our current President has been in power, no attacks have occurred. The only attack on US soil since WW II (by a known attacker, the Japanese) has been under the power of George W. Bush, and according to you, he would be the least strongest president in the present day.

To 'protect' does not translate into an aggressive attack, especially if the attacker is not a known entity.
It's a gag order to protect the dolt
He started calling the media and proudly proclaiming his guilt, that he knew what he did, that it was part of an Islamic revenge for our presence in the middle east, ad nauseum. I can't remember if it was the DA or the judge, but they quickly threw a gag order on everything because his shooting off his mouth would likely have led to a mistrial because of the inability to find a jury that hadn't been tainted by his pretrial blathering.
Trying to PROTECT us. Dont worry, we wont
nm
Protect us???? He did not listen to all the Intelligence Reports....sm
that a large-scale attack was imminent, his Daddy lit the flame by going over to Iraq the first time to secure Daddy Bush's and his friend's oil interests there, they did not care a FIG about the poor Kuwaitis! We are more hated as a nation now, because of the Bush policies, than we have EVER been in history, and instead if his getting Bin Ladin, as he vowed, he helped the Bin Ladin family living in LA to escape the country becaue of the wrath of the people. Speaking of Kool-Aid? Blind pubs must have bought the factory and have been living on the stuff the past 8 years, unbelievable!
Halliburton Didn't Protect Soldiers' Water
(I wonder what else they won't protect if/when they're put in charge after the Dubai deal goes through.  And I believe Bush will find a way to push it through right under Americans' noses, since I believe his loyalty lies clearly with rich Arabs and not with the safety of Americans.)

 

Updated:2006-03-16 07:52:03

 

Halliburton Didn't Protect Soldiers' Water

 

Internal Memo Warns of 'Mass Sickness or Death'

ap


WASHINGTON (March 16) - Halliburton Co. failed to protect the water supply it is paid to purify for U.S. soldiers throughout Iraq, in one instance missing contamination that could have caused mass sickness or death, an internal company report concluded.


The report, obtained by The Associated Press, said the company failed to assemble and use its own water purification equipment, allowing contaminated water directly from the Euphrates River to be used for washing and laundry at Camp Ar Ramadi in Ramadi, Iraq.


The problems discovered last year at that site - poor training, miscommunication and lax record keeping - occurred at Halliburton's other operations throughout Iraq, the report said.


Countrywide, all camps suffer to some extent from all or some of the deficiencies noted, Wil Granger, Theatre Water Quality Manager in the war zone for Halliburton's KBR subsidiary, wrote in his May 2005 report.


AP reported earlier this year allegations from whistleblowers about the Camp Ar Ramadi incident, but Halliburton never made public Granger's internal report alleging wider problems.


The water quality expert warned Halliburton the problems will have to be dealt with at a very elevated level of management to protect health and safety of U.S. personnel.


Halliburton said Wednesday it conducted a second review last year that found no evidence of any illnesses in Iraq from water and it believes some of its earlier conclusions were incomplete and inaccurate. The company declined to release the second report.


The company said it has worked closely with the Army to develop standards and take action to ensure that the water provided in Iraq is safe and of the highest quality possible.


Halliburton was headed by Vice President Dick Cheney for several years before he ran for vice president. Its KBR subsidiary, also known as Kellogg Brown & Root, works under contract to provide a number of services to the U.S. military in Iraq, including providing water and purifying it.


The contaminated, non-chlorinated water at Ar Ramadi was discovered in March 2005 in a commode by Ben Carter, a KBR water expert at the base. In an interview, Carter said he resigned after KBR barred him from notifying the military and senior company officials about the untreated water.


A supervisor at Ar Ramadi told me to stop e-mailing company officials outside the base and warned that informing the military was none of my concern, Carter said. He said he threatened to sue if company officials didn't let him be examined to determine whether he suffered medical problems from exposure to the contaminated water.


Granger's report cited several countrywide problems:


A lack of training for key personnel. Theatre wide there is no formalized training for anyone at any level in concerns to water operations.


Confusion between KBR and military officials over their respective roles. For instance, each assumed the other would chlorinate the water at Ar Ramadi for any uses that would require the treatment.


Inadequate or nonexistent records that could have caught problems in advance. Little or no documentation was kept on water inventories, safety stand-downs, audits of water quality, deliveries, inspections and logs showing alterations or modifications to water systems.


Relying on employees the company identified as semiskilled labor, and paid as unskilled workers in the pay structure.


The report said the event at Ar Ramadi could have been prevented if KBR's Reverse Osmosis Units on the site had been assembled, instead of relying on the military's water production facilities.


This event should be considered a 'near miss' as the consequences of these actions could have been very severe resulting in mass sickness or death, Granger wrote.


The report said that KBR officials at Ar Ramadi tried to keep the contamination from senior company officials.


The event that was submitted in a report to local camp management should have been classified as a recordable occurrence and communicated to senior management in a timely manner, Granger wrote. The primary awareness to this event came through threat of domestic litigation.


Beginning last May, Halliburton said it began using its equipment to remove contaminants, bacteria, and viruses in Ar Ramadi, and disinfect the water with chlorine. The company said KBR has worked closely with the Army to develop safe water standards.


It said its subsequent review in August-September 2005 found nonpotable water used for washing was effectively filtered to remove at least 99 percent of the parasite giardia and 90 percent of viruses. The Ar Ramadi water also tested negative for bacteria, Halliburton added.

At least he won't select the Arab emirates to protect our ports
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of course he lied - but no one died - he had a young daughter to protect...
All men would lie - when, in fact, it was nobody's freakin' business........that was Hillary's problem
and I feel like makin *du du duu du du duu* feel like maaa-k-in love to YOU!
ARGH!!


No. I love the country side in Alabama...I'm a country girl...nm

You feel someone should be forced to do something they feel is wrong? sm
Sounds like communism to me.
Yes killing this country - have you been out of the country the last 3 months or so
Don't you have a clue as to what is happening in America? Where have you been? Don't you listen to what is happening or are you still drinking the kool-aid. That time is over. Put the aid down and wake up. The country is being destroyed. These have been the worst 4 months in the history of bad presidents. Foreclosures are on the rise, unemployment is on the rise, 3+ trillion more in deficit and on the rise, companies shutting down, Clinton for SoS. Napolitano - one of the biggest tragedies to happen to America. The list goes on and on and on and on.

Dubya is not in office anymore. You think dubya "pulled the trigger", well the O keeps reloading it and continues to pull the trigger.
I do not feel sorry for the 'terrorists', I feel
sorry for those who are (or soon were) held there and are innocent.
I feel ya..

I just have to try and stay positive.  I dont want THEM to win.


 


JUST KIDDING!!!


Hey, why don't you tell us how you really feel?
nm
Tell us how you really feel
I think you need to use about 1,000 more ugly adjectives to make your point...
Feel the same way...
....I learn a lot on this board.  Let's give the administrator a chance???  Otherwise IGNORE the trolls, even though it is really really hard!
LOL I feel the same way!
I am intrigued with his eloquence, not to mention his intelligence and complete command of law knowledge. Yeah, I know he's been studying and practicing, but he seems pretty sincere.

I'm just worried about the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. He is a conservative and if Bush nominates another conservative, well...

One of my concerns is the abortion issue. I am personally against abortion, but I am pro-choice. It scares me to think what would happen if Roe V Wade was overturned. Illegal abortions, girls and nonwealthy women dying. Of course, we would definitely see a rise in D&C's for the rich and connected.
I feel sorry for him, too.
He was always one of my favorites.  He still is.  He was *conned* just like the rest of the world.  I can understand why he resigned.  Being a man of such honesty and integrity, I hope he doesn't beat himself up too much personally about it.  I don't believe he intentionally meant to lie.  He was merely another victim of the current administration. 
I feel the same way. sm
I have issues with much of President Bush's policy, most espeically immigration and big spending.  I don't see that President Bush supports the true conservative mindset.  I do support him, however, because he does uphold many other conservative values including abortion and I am 100% behind the war against Islamic terrorists.
Many feel it is necessary
I am not the only one who feels protesting is necessary, as you well know.

It is nice to spout opinions about what YOU think are the consequences of protesting, but there is no facts to back this up and is pure speculation, which I continue to see quite a bit of.


No need to feel sorry!! nm
nm
Im sorry you feel that way,
however, theres nothing superficial about the content in the video. Pets already have these type of chips implanted in them. Tracking chips. This is very REAL.

These chips are around NOW. As seen on on the video, a family has already volunteered to have these v chipis implanted. Theses chips will be more sophisticated than the ones placed in pets. Medical information, banking information, everything about you will be in this chip. At first it may be voluntary but before long these will be mandatory, to to buy or sell or do anything. Sure sounds like Revelation to me. End Times.

For those who have Christ's Salvation, they will be taken up with him in the clouds when he comes back. It's the ones left behind that will suffer this and many other great tribulations. Things are happening all around us that are in the book of REVELATIONS. Wars and rumors of war. Famine, Floods, Natural Disasters everytime you turn around. Rampant homosexuality, Abortions, pornography kids killing kids, gang violence, sexuality strewn everywhere and many other things on the news. This world is full of evil. Satans playground. Not to mention the economy and the shape it's in. People are losing their homes, jobs. There focus is on material things. Charge it now, worry about it later. It's all catching up. Yes, I believe we are in End Times. I do respect your opinion though. I will respectfully agree to disagree.

God Bless.
Lisa
Feel Ya
I really feel you.  I was in the credit union one day recently and actually talked to a woman I know who was there to process an application for a credit card because of that idiotic commercial.
"I feel so alone..."

Sorry you feel that way.
Sorry you can't let people live their own lives without feeling the need to determine that a woman "must have a baby no matter what". I guess you would rather see a child raised in poverty, be hungry, live with abusive parents, be a punching bag if the parents take their frustation out on the child, feel unloved, and unwanted. After all.. the person who got pregnant as someone so delicately put it "needs to deal with it and be responsible". Sure it's responsible to bring a child into a horrible horrible home just so the mother can "suffer the consequences" that she accidentally got pregnant. Never mind the condom broke or her birth control pills didn't work, or she was raped, or it was found that the child would be severely crippled or retarded and would never ever have any hopes of having a normal or decent life, or any of the other numerous reasons someone may have gotten pregnant. But by god they better have that child and pay for their mistake.

We are all entitled to our opinions, but when it comes to another woman deciding with her doctor the best course of action for her future and the future of a baby (who is not even developed yet and cannot feel pain or think) that's where I draw the line and it then is not my business and if it happens to me it is nobody elses business - and that is my opinion!

We don't need to watch any abortion films. We all know the process and what happens. If the baby has developed it's a horrible horrible thing. There is no denying that. At the same time it's quick. Making a child suffer for life (60, 70 & 80 years or more) your okay with that??? I say let the child be born into the Kingdom of Heaven where the child will not have to suffer the consequence of a horrible life on earth but feel the love forever our our creator.
Isn't that odd? I feel the same way about...
true believers of BO/JB.
Sorry you feel that way.......
One doesn't have to be "religous" to feel abortion is murder. Believe it or not, there are "nonbelievers" out there who believe abortion is murder. Some are so condemning of those that believe it is murder because a lot of them have had or know of someone who have had an abortion and have those feelings/issues to deal with.

And the "crutch" you refer to, which I believe would be God, isn't a bad thing, ya know. Maybe you should try it!!!!!!
I wonder about this too. I feel really bad for...sm
the soldiers that have had their tours of duty extended up to 12 months and when they get home for a few months, get sent back again. How long can this keep up. So many of them are National Guard who have real jobs and families back home. It is just not fair that the burden is shared by so few.
I feel the same way as you do.
DH told me there is some site that tells who voted for it and against it.

The whole lot of them needs to be fired!!!! Especially starting with the ones you mentioned.

The dems are sitting there patting themselves on the back for getting this to pass when they are the ones who put the crisis in hand.

Both Obama and McCain voted for it. I'm disgussed with both of them. I'm voting for the constitution party this election. It's about time we put the country back on the right track.

It is true though. We have no control. We are supposed to, but it seems like the people are just placing themselves in the position of office. Pelosi? Give me a break. She's been in there how long and she's still doing a sh!tty job. Frank? Pulleease. And Dodd? He's probably the worse. No wonder why Connecticut (my home state) wants him to remain in Washington, they don't want him in Connecticut.

Politicians in DC, corrupt to the max, liars to the bone.


Most of what you say is exactly how I feel. I too...sm
have a hard time about the Rev. Wright's church and his sermons. I would really like for Obama to explain this further, but I have a feeling that his handlers are afraid that this would inject race into the campaign and are not addressing it. This, however, is not a deal breaker for me because I do not believe religion should be an issue and plan on voting for Obama. More positives for me than negatives.
This is how I feel.....sm
The last 6 years, people have been buying what they cannot afford. Our children learn from us and sad to say, but they want everything now and charge what they can't afford because that's what they learned from their parents. My 2 sons have gotten things just like others (cell phones, new clothes, etc.), but I made sure that they waited until they could appreciate what was given to them. Most college kids want Obama for president because they want change NOW. My son goes to Hofstra Law and says he will vote for Obama because Obama understands the younger generation. We had quite a debate going on here...but like I told my son "when Obama can't and won't even try to prove that he was born in the United States, that there is something definitely wrong here". Like my mother said on her dying bed 6 years ago "there are going to be a lot of changes in this world". People were living the high life while my family just made it month by month. My mother also said that day "the people higher on the ladder will fall harder than the people who actually worked for their money and appreciated every dollar" I'm glad that I didn't give in and buy a beamer just because I wanted one. It's time that the people who wanted everything NOW and went out and charged and borrowed, pay the piper. It sucks, but I guess I will be paying for the people who lived so lavishingly the past 6 years.
I am sorry that you feel this way. NM
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I would feel the same about it either way.
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Here's how they feel. (sm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

They do have plenty of courage. It is many in the general public who do not. That is the point. The military and their families are fighting this war, while the rest of the country lives as though there is no war at all.
thank you for that :-) I feel the same (nm)
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All I can say is that I feel sorry for you.... sm
I guess, out of the goodness of our Democratic hearts, we will have to drag you kicking and screaming with us to a new and better world. No hard feelings!
I mean feel sorry for Just the Big Bad.nm
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All I can say is that I feel sorry for you.... nm
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Wow - thanks - you said everything I feel
And you haven't been bashed yet? Now that's surprising.
I feel sorry for you and the way you think.
I made an honest assessment, as I don't post here often.

You just don't care to hear the truth about yourself.



I don't believe that. I just feel being over
here arguing about this whole thing will make some people lash out with words. But I would like for others to be respectful of our leaders we send to their country.

At least I don't think that is the majority of the way people feel. And I did not vote for the man. I was against this particular war and felt he went after the wrong people. Yet, I still wanted him to be respected.

Oh don't feel sorry for me....

 and please don't pray for me either you self-rightous weirdo!