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Ummm. Fox is changing its tone and now

Posted By: calling their original report....sm on 2008-09-06
In Reply to: Uh..The sources refuting this are DNC officials.. like they'd tell the truth about it - I think not!

"a problem with semantics," trying to slither out from under its legendary erroneous biased reporting.


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Ummm....ummm....nope, I'd best not touch that one. nm
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You set the tone.

I responded likewise.  And I agree it's not necessary.  Why do you do it?


There is no racism in my tone......
I am just sick of nuts like him standing up there and making absolutely insane remarks, such as the "messiah" thing. And what is even worse, he has weak followers if they don't see this man for what he is. HE is a RACIST man. I have no problem calling him out on that one. He is racist, his comments are racist, and he loves to divide the races. If you don't like it, too bad. The facts aren't prety are they?


There is racisim in your tone, not Obama's.

McCain is going to be the same. We need change; true change.  We definitely do not need our healthcare taxed.  What's next?  No tax break for what we pay in interest on our mortgages?  I'm quite frankly sick of hearing about what a hero John McCain is when in actuality he is was cheating on his wife.  All of the women out there need to think about that one!  Then, he marries into money (still doesn't come home) and his wife becomes a pill addict.  Don't even get me started on Palin's wonderful family that get people fired (scorn SIL) and has a teenager who is pregnant right under her nose!  It all starts at home.


I think people are afraid of Obama, but I think he may bring the change we need, but of course, there will always be nay sayers (especially the rich ones).  Too bad I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth so that I can be a McCain fan and say "it's okay to cheat on your wife" or a Palin fan "it's only your daughter does not practice abstinence even though we're very religious."  Cough gag!!!!


I have a tendency to reflect the tone used in
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Republicans taking a different tone on Iraq...sm
Republican lawmakers losing positive tone on course of war

Jonathan Weisman, Anushka Asthana, Washington Post

(07-22) 04:00 PDT Washington -- Faced with almost daily reports of sectarian carnage, Republicans are shifting their message on the war in Iraq from optimistic talk of progress to acknowledging serious problems and pointing up mistakes in planning and execution.

Rep. Gil Gutknecht, R-Minn., once a strong supporter of the war, returned from Iraq this week declaring that conditions in Baghdad were far worse than we'd been led to believe, and urging that troop withdrawals begin immediately.

Other Republican lawmakers acknowledge that it is no longer tenable to say the news media is ignoring the good news in Iraq and painting an unfair picture of the war. About 4,338 Iraqi civilians died violent deaths during the first six months of 2006, according to a new report by the U.N. Assistance Mission for Iraq. Last month alone, 3,149 civilians were killed -- an average of more than 100 a day.

It's like after (Hurricane) Katrina, when the secretary of Homeland Security was saying all those people weren't really stranded (at the New Orleans civic center) when we were all watching it on TV, said Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C. I still hear about that. We can't look like we won't face reality.

Essentially, what the White House is saying is, 'Stay the course, stay the course,' Gutknecht said. I don't think that course is politically sustainable.

Rep. Jim Gerlach of Pennsylvania, a swing-district Republican facing a tough re-election race, has introduced legislation to create clear measurements of progress in Iraq, from territory under the control of Iraqi forces to government stability.

Congress needs to be more proactive and aggressive in evaluating what is the progress in Iraq, he said. The Iraqi government shouldn't feel like it's got a blank check on American lives and American dollars.

Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn., meanwhile, is using his House Government Reform subcommittee on national security to vent criticism of the White House's war strategy and new estimates of the monetary cost of war.

On Tuesday, Shays joined U.S. Comptroller General David Walker in criticizing unreliable cost estimates of a war that is nearly 3 1/2 years old.

Even Democrats say they see a change in tone on the other side of the aisle.

I think there is a lot less arrogance about the war in Iraq than there once was -- and people are much more sober in their assessment, said Rep. Chris VanHollen, D-Md.

The evolving Republican message on the war contrasts with the strong rhetoric used by House and Senate Republicans recently in opposing a deadline for withdrawal from Iraq. Last week, House Majority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, issued a statement hailing the turnover of Iraq's Muthanna province to Iraqi security forces under the headline, Progress in Iraq ... Despite Doomsday Democrats.

During a debate last month, Gutknecht intoned, Members, now is not the time to go wobbly. This week, he conceded I guess I didn't understand the situation, saying that a partial troop withdrawal now would send a clear message to the Iraqis that the next step is up to you.

Republicans, especially those in swing districts, had no choice but to shift the emphasis of their war talk, lawmakers said.

The Iraq issue is the lens through which people are looking at the federal government, said Rep. Charles Dent of Pennsylvania, another swing-district Republican. That is the issue to most people. There's no question about that.
Your Jehovah has to frown upon the tone and content sm

of your original post.  Why are you not relying on your faith that your Jehovah will take care of you and why not pray for peace and safety for us throughout this transition, if your Jehovah is your president and leader?  From your original post you have no faith much less religion besides being led and guided by the devil.  Really and truly how can you say the words you said in your original post and then speak of your Jehovah.  Such a sad day and time, you sound as if you hate President-Elect Obama.


My God tells me that I will be okay because he will surely take care of me, regardless of who is President.


It isn't changing, it's in the details
Obama says if you are making under $250K you will not see your taxes go up a dime. If you are making under $200K you will see your taxes decrease. Basically if you are between $200K and $250K it's a no-change. He always gets this right, it's just that the wording on it seems similar so people get confused (or think he is).
Not changing the subject.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/13/poll-obama-facing-high-expectations/
Poll: Obama facing high expectations. Refer to the "overall approval rating" paragraph toward end of article.

http://www.gallup.com/video/111904/Most-Expect-Obama-Make-Effort-Republicans.aspx
Most Expect Obama to Make Effort With Republicans

Yet again changing the subject...(sm)

My original post merely pointed out that Olberman had a good question (which has yet to be recognized on this board).  Just as a refresher, the question was, why is Coulter trying to get on NBC to promote her book (in which she talks badly about NBC) when she has such a low opinion of the network.  This is not a battle of the networks, just a simple observation that anyone with half a brain can see.


I guess it's easier to change the subject than to actually answer a question or post an opinion on the subject matter.


Yet again changing the subject...(sm)

My original post merely pointed out that Olberman had a good question (which has yet to be recognized on this board).  Just as a refresher, the question was, why is Coulter trying to get on NBC to promote her book (in which she talks badly about NBC) when she has such a low opinion of the network.  This is not a battle of the networks, just a simple observation that anyone with half a brain can see.


I guess it's easier to change the subject than to actually answer a question or post an opinion on the subject matter.


Consider changing your moniker to IAlwaysGetTheLastWordNoMatterWhat. nm

Man, what a sick reason for changing

Here is a blurb from an article I read..........changing a vote just IN CASE Obama becomes president........what a sell out.


Among the 21 converts was Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., D-Illinois, his chief of staff, Kenneth Edmonds, said.


Edmonds said Jackson was changing his vote because "he received assurances from (Sen. Barack Obama) that, if elected, his administration will aggressively use authority in the bill to prevent foreclosures and stabilize the housing market."


Changing the subject to the tax rant
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Changing the subject does not change
I agree. Any undecided voter should read the entire fact check site AND both candidates issues platforms on their websites.
You're changing your tune
You make comments you want to make with no regards to anyone feelings and you call it being funny but someone else makes a comment you don't like and you call it racist and start yelling for the moderator. Maybe they thought their comment was funny.
I give up...I keep typing 7 and it keeps changing it.
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why do you insist on changing the subject
when Bush was in and we mentioned Clinton we'd be hemmed and hawed at that Clinton and Gore were gone and to get over it. Now that we say something about Mr. Messiah and we get Bush/Cheney comments.

Give it a rest. They are gone.
You seem to remember wrong, and why would I be changing races...sm
Find this and post it.
Yeah, Obama also keeps changing his definition
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LoL! Must be changing of the guard in crasher-trasher land.

The solution is pretty simple.  If you don't like the liberal sermon, then don't attend the liberal church.


Other than that, I couldn't care less what you think.  Have a nice day.


Bush starts changing his tune/rhetoric.....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061112/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_iraq
Kindly stop changing the subject. Still waiting for examples.
You made the charge, so back it up or admit that you can't. And if you don't even have that much integrity, then at least please stop saying things that you can't support.


Ummm...yes you did....
You said take it to the conservative board. And I do not see what in the post was bashing. It was stating an opinion, which anyone, no matter what their political affiliation is, still has the right to do on this board or any other to my knowledge. If you perceive the truth as bashing, that is your prerogative. And the truth IS, liberals continue to defend Clinton even though he was and is a morally corrupt individual who broke the law of the United States while a sitting President. He did it, that is the truth, there is no way around that. Yet your party continues to say it was about sex. I will try this one more time...perjury is perjury no matter what it is ABOUT. It is a felony. He broke the law and his oath of office. Never apologized for either. And took his last hours in office an opportunity to pardon all the crony crooks he could. And yet you continue to defend him as a great man. Pardon me if that seriously undermines the credibility of your party. That is NOT bashing. That is the TRUTH.
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The way I read that is these units would be activated in case of natural or manmade diaster, not out on the streets everyday. Good greif.
Ummm, so maybe they can
Then the guilty can be punished, and the innocent prisoners who are not terrorists (or at least weren't when they were initially locked up) can be set free.

Kinda a no brainer, dontcha think?
Ummm....
source of the info and the fact that you "don't know anybody who would think it's right" yada yada yada, chances are you and the author are jumping to conclusions that are most likely a tad over-stated. It might be helpful to keep in mind that the "government" is not some block of concrete buildings or master computer somewhere. They are flesh and blood just like the rest of us and are not likely to be party to placing "control" of the heath care of themselves, their parents and their own children in the thoes of such a scheme. Sorry. Jury's still out on this.
Ummm....
source of the info and the fact that you "don't know anybody who would think it's right" yada yada yada, chances are you and the author are jumping to conclusions that are most likely a tad over-stated. It might be helpful to keep in mind that the "government" is not some block of concrete buildings or master computer somewhere. They are flesh and blood just like the rest of us and are not likely to be party to placing "control" of the heath care of themselves, their parents and their own children in the thoes of such a scheme. Sorry. Jury's still out on this.
Ummm...no....
Get over yourself. If you have something intelligent to say, I'm all ears, but until that time.....
Ummm....(sm)

So you don't think waterboarding is illegal -- even though it goes directly against at least 4 existing treaties?  If we aren't going to be held accountable by treaties that WE agree to, what's the point of being in them?


This is actually where I do disagree with Obama.  He doesn't want to make this into a partisan thing and is seemingly not too interested in prosecutions.  My opinion is that its not partisan to enforce existing laws.  As far as I'm concerned the whole bunch from the Shrub gang need to be prosecuted.  Maybe we can just extradite them to Spain.  That would work for me.


Ummm....(sm)
Doesn't this belong on the gab board?  What's wrong....don't want to talk about your heros, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld going down for torture? 
Ummm....(sm)
I think I would go with conventional interrogation techniques...you know....the ones that actually worked on KSM before the waterboarding.
Ummm....(sm)

"what right does the government have to take MY money and give to an organization like ACORN to pass out to democratic candidates for their campaigns"


Well, that was straight out of O'Reilly's mouth.  LOL.  In fact, I'm pretty sure that's just about exactly what he said last night. 


So you think that there is a direct funnel that takes our tax dollars and just hands them over to Acorn?  Here's a news flash --- as the ladies noted last night on Billo's show, they are a nonprofit organization and have to apply and compete for grants and loans just like everyone else.


As for whether they are completely on the up and up, I have no idea, but I don't think I'll base that judgment on the commentary of a right-wing show host.


Ummm....(sm)

Exactly how is it that Fox's ratings prove that O'Reilly is not far right?  LOL.. Ratings have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.


However, since you mentioned Obama and fulfilling his promises, it may not turn out like you think.  For the most part people who voted for him are pretty happy with how he's handling the economy and foreign affairs.  However, there are a few things that have gotten to a lot of dems.  For example, he hasn't gotten rid of "don't ask don't tell" yet.  He hasn't fulfilled promises he made to the LGBT community.  He's carrying on seemingly with "indefinite detention."  He ran on a platform that promised these things would be fixed.  Granted, he hasn't been there long and can still come around on these things.  However, if he doesn't my guess is that the country will go even farther to the left than they did this time.  Now that is what you should be worried about, not Fox ratings.


And just as a side note, if he gets healthcare reform through, it will be decades before a pub sets foot in the White House.


ummm.
Now who's making assumptions? You don't know what he paid for either. Secondly, I am fully aware of what is going on in this country. Spending, printing money, spending, printing money, etc., etc. Get over Bush He is gone. Obama has in four shorts months spent more money than the 43 presidents who preceded him COMBINED. So yeah, I worry about the cost of his date. Because it's just plain wrong. You want logic - you don't spend taxpayer money on a DATE in this failing economy. Logic would be to lead by example, not telling other people to sacrifice and then do something so excessive. Furthermore, who said I voted for Bush? You? Shows what you know. Next time don't vote in Obama and maybe free enterprise in this country will survive so we will all have jobs.
Ummm....(sm)
Obama has writtent 2 books ---- the first, "Dreams From My Father," was published in 1995.  The second, "The Audacity of Hope," was published in 2006.  --- Both before the election.
Ummm....actually it does...(sm)

The Declaration of Independence is not and was not a legal document.  It simply stated the intent of the US to separate from Great Britian and why.  It did not define any rules or regulations to be imposed in this nation.


Explain the Treaty of Tripoli that says "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."


Another note:  Not everyone in this country is in the business of impressing your god and therefore has no need of any kind of "blessing" from your god.  What if I were a pagan and told you that the sun god was going to scorch the US unless everyone prayed to him/her.  Would you do it?  That's what you expect everyone else to do to impress your god.  Why?  Because YOU don't want to be in the mix when your supposed wrath of god experience comes.  I would put that in the category of trying to make others do something they don't agree with just to save your behind.  Don't even bother with the "but we want to save you too" speech.  Believe me, we don't want or need saving.


Ummm...no....(sm)

Your main point was what you initially stated, and that was that there was no mention in the MSM about this incident.  Unfortunately for you, I can undoubtedly come up with even more proof of MSM coverage if you'd like, but that would only serve to embarass you further. 


As far as Obama not saying much about it, I think that was a good choice.  At the time he was only a couple days out from his speech in Cairo. --- That would be the speech where he is seeking to calm tensions between our religous nuts and their religious nuts.  Yeah....that would have been just a perfect time to bring that up.  How about using your brain for a change instead of just spitting out the right wing talking points.


Ummm....(sm)

I do believe I've more than proven I can take the heat on this board....LOL, even from the loons like you who just lurk around waiting for me to post something so you can jump on it, which is rather funny and pathetic all at the same time, as well as from the paranoid lunatics like Patty. 


BTW, you can now take "paranoid lunatic" out of the insinuation box and put in the statement box......just so you don't get confused.


 


Ummm....(sm)

A gag order was issued: 


http://www2.arkansasonline.com/news/2009/jun/08/gag-order-issed-shooting-case/


The whole point of the gag order (which the prosecutors asked for, btw) is so they can come up with a jury that has not been overexposed to the case.  I guess Fixed Noise wants to ensure that everyone hears about this so we can have a really hard time prosecuting this guy.  Way to go Fox!  


Ummm....no. The link says sm
it contains a malformed video id.  That's what it says when you paste it into the address bar and it takes you to You Tube. 
Ummm...Which America would that be?
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Ummm....they do, actually, just as they take issue with
and ran with it.
Ummm....for starters
managed to assemble more than a dozen transitional economic advisors in 3 days, and I am certain he will not confine himself to those guys before it's all over. He has a 15 cabinet positions, 6 cabinet-level administrations positions and 3 Level 1 Executive Schedule offices to consider.

He's not been sworn into office, so there is not a whole lot he can do directly except to articulate his intent. No time for ego for a man who is preparing to face one of the greatest challenges as president in the history of our country. BTW, the Office of the President Elect has been around since 1963...not O's idea.
Ummm, think we should be concering ourselves
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Ummm...you surely know!!
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...jealous?...ummm....
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Ummm, this may come as a surprise to you
There are between 1.3 and 1.6 BILLION Moslems in the world. Estimates of how many live in the US are widely disputed, but range between 2 and 7 million. Among them, only a very small percentage of them are extremist. That leaves about a BILLION of them, give or take, for Obama to "win over." Got it?
Ummm....it goes with the territory...
It is their responsibility to entertain ambassadors, foreign heads of state, etc., etc. Use you freaking brain box. At least they didn't REDECORATE.
Ummm....I have a question...(sm)
Exactly what is it that Obama is doing that causes fear?
Ummm..Martha my dear
Woo..Hoo..is this gonna be a **Martha Stewart moment**?